HTML Editor w/ WYSIWYG & Manual Editing

I just had a bad experience using MS Word as an HTML editor. It
bloated more than 200% so I could barely recognize the essential
statements; and it introduced more than 14,000 errors. Also, although
it displayed fine in Firefox, it was unintelligible to IE. I spent
the day trying to reduce the errors to the point wherel HTML Tidy
could finish a pass without aborting. Finally I succeeded. No
errors. It displays fine in Firefox & IE.

BUT, my question is, what can I use for an editor now? I'd like to be
able to insert table rows and columns with the ease of MS Word, but I
want no errors and I want an HTML code that I can still modify
myself. What can you recommend?

Thanks a lot.

Trish

Re: HTML Editor w/ WYSIWYG & Manual Editing

Trish wrote:
> I just had a bad experience using MS Word as an HTML editor. It
> bloated more than 200% so I could barely recognize the essential
> statements; and it introduced more than 14,000 errors. Also, although
> it displayed fine in Firefox, it was unintelligible to IE. I spent
> the day trying to reduce the errors to the point wherel HTML Tidy
> could finish a pass without aborting. Finally I succeeded. No
> errors. It displays fine in Firefox & IE.
>
> BUT, my question is, what can I use for an editor now? I'd like to be
> able to insert table rows and columns with the ease of MS Word, but I
> want no errors and I want an HTML code that I can still modify
> myself. What can you recommend?
>
> Thanks a lot.

Amazing how many folk who use Google to access Usenet never Google! Just
Google this group and your will find enough posts on the subject to keep
you reading for hours.

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Re: HTML Editor w/ WYSIWYG & Manual Editing

Trish wrote:

> I just had a

multi-posting. Please don't do that; cross-post if necessary. See:
http://oakroadsystems.com/genl/unice.htm#xpost

I just gave you an answer in
comp.infosystems.www.authoring.html

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Re: HTML Editor w/ WYSIWYG & Manual Editing

Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
> Trish wrote:
>
>> I just had a
>
> multi-posting. Please don't do that; cross-post if necessary. See:
> http://oakroadsystems.com/genl/unice.htm#xpost

GGer, Beau.


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Re: HTML Editor w/ WYSIWYG & Manual Editing

Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Thu, 19 Jul 2007 03:49:57 GMT
Blinky the Shark scribed:

> Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
>> Trish wrote:
>>
>>> I just had a
>>
>> multi-posting. Please don't do that; cross-post if necessary. See:
>> http://oakroadsystems.com/genl/unice.htm#xpost
>
> GGer, Beau.

Shark-growling sounds a lot like gargling.

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Re: HTML Editor w/ WYSIWYG & Manual Editing

Blinky the Shark wrote:

> Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
>> Trish wrote:
>>> I just had a
>>
>> multi-posting. Please don't do that; cross-post if necessary. See:
>> http://oakroadsystems.com/genl/unice.htm#xpost
>
> GGer, Beau.

I knew that, of course. (Dialog tells me instantly by showing the
header line with a bright green background.)

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Re: HTML Editor w/ WYSIWYG & Manual Editing

Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
> Blinky the Shark wrote:
>
>> Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
>>> Trish wrote:
>>>> I just had a
>>> multi-posting. Please don't do that; cross-post if necessary. See:
>>> http://oakroadsystems.com/genl/unice.htm#xpost
>> GGer, Beau.
>
> I knew that, of course. (Dialog tells me instantly by showing the
> header line with a bright green background.)
>
Should be a bright *red* background.

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Re: HTML Editor w/ WYSIWYG & Manual Editing

Jonathan N. Little wrote:

> Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
>> Blinky the Shark wrote:
>>> Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
>>>> Trish wrote:
>>>>> I just had
>>>> a multi-posting. Please don't do that; cross-post if necessary.
>>>> See:
>>>> http://oakroadsystems.com/genl/unice.htm#xpost
>>> GGer, Beau.
>>
>> I knew that, of course. (Dialog tells me instantly by showing the
>> header line with a bright green background.)
>>
> Should be a bright *red* background.

I thought about that. "Danger, Will Robinson!" But then I acquiesced
and chose green, 'cause most of the Gropers surely *are* green. :-)

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Re: HTML Editor w/ WYSIWYG & Manual Editing

Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
> Jonathan N. Little wrote:
>
>> Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
>>> Blinky the Shark wrote:
>>>> Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
>>>>> Trish wrote:
>>>>>> I just had
>>>>> a multi-posting. Please don't do that; cross-post if necessary.
>>>>> See:
>>>>> http://oakroadsystems.com/genl/unice.htm#xpost
>>>> GGer, Beau.
>>>
>>> I knew that, of course. (Dialog tells me instantly by showing the
>>> header line with a bright green background.)
>>>
>> Should be a bright *red* background.
>
> I thought about that. "Danger, Will Robinson!" But then I acquiesced
> and chose green, 'cause most of the Gropers surely *are* green. :-)

I'd say both approaches are valid. :)


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Re: HTML Editor w/ WYSIWYG & Manual Editing

"Trish" wrote in message
news:1184812279.761701.201930@z24g2000prh.googlegroups.com.. .
>I just had a bad experience using MS Word as an HTML editor. It
> bloated more than 200% so I could barely recognize the essential
> statements; and it introduced more than 14,000 errors. Also, although
> it displayed fine in Firefox, it was unintelligible to IE. I spent
> the day trying to reduce the errors to the point wherel HTML Tidy
> could finish a pass without aborting. Finally I succeeded. No
> errors. It displays fine in Firefox & IE.
>
> BUT, my question is, what can I use for an editor now? I'd like to be
> able to insert table rows and columns with the ease of MS Word, but I
> want no errors and I want an HTML code that I can still modify
> myself. What can you recommend?
>
> Thanks a lot.
>
> Trish
>

Use Frontpage or Dreamweaver. Word sucks a lot. Frontpage is only slightly
better. Dreamweaver is pretty good but it's pricey.
Ciarán

Re: HTML Editor w/ WYSIWYG & Manual Editing

Trish wrote:
> I just had a bad experience using MS Word as an HTML editor. It
> bloated more than 200% so I could barely recognize the essential
> statements; and it introduced more than 14,000 errors. Also, although
> it displayed fine in Firefox, it was unintelligible to IE. I spent
> the day trying to reduce the errors to the point wherel HTML Tidy
> could finish a pass without aborting. Finally I succeeded. No
> errors. It displays fine in Firefox & IE.
>
> BUT, my question is, what can I use for an editor now? I'd like to be
> able to insert table rows and columns with the ease of MS Word, but I
> want no errors and I want an HTML code that I can still modify
> myself. What can you recommend?
>
> Thanks a lot.
>
> Trish
>
To begin with, as far as i am concerned, M$ Nerd is a POS not worthy
of co-mingling with poop in a septic tank.
M$ Nerd and Insanely F*kedup are *both* sold my Micro$uck, so what
the hell do you expect?
They are so big and care so little about quality or their custoners,
that you will never see any product from them that works properly, much
less "knows" much about any one of their other products.
"Bloated more than 200%" is typical; i have seen worse.
"14,000 errors"? you lucky dog that ther were so few.

You want HTML code that you can modify?
Use a *dumb* test editor!
Or one of the Netscape Composers (or similar); crappy but infinitely
better than Nerd.

Re: HTML Editor w/ WYSIWYG & Manual Editing

Ciaran wrote:

> "Trish" wrote in message
> news:1184812279.761701.201930@z24g2000prh.googlegroups.com.. .
>
>>I just had a bad experience using MS Word as an HTML editor. It
>>bloated more than 200% so I could barely recognize the essential
>>statements; and it introduced more than 14,000 errors. Also, although
>>it displayed fine in Firefox, it was unintelligible to IE. I spent
>>the day trying to reduce the errors to the point wherel HTML Tidy
>>could finish a pass without aborting. Finally I succeeded. No
>>errors. It displays fine in Firefox & IE.
>>
>>BUT, my question is, what can I use for an editor now? I'd like to be
>>able to insert table rows and columns with the ease of MS Word, but I
>>want no errors and I want an HTML code that I can still modify
>>myself. What can you recommend?
>>
>>Thanks a lot.
>>
>>Trish
>>
>
>
> Use Frontpage or Dreamweaver. Word sucks a lot. Frontpage is only slightly
> better. Dreamweaver is pretty good but it's pricey.
> Ciarán
>
>
Frontpage "slightly" better?
Not by a hell of a lot by any means; still sh*t from M$.

Re: HTML Editor w/ WYSIWYG & Manual Editing

Robert Baer wrote:

> Use a *dumb* test editor!

Yup, I use a test editor myself.

What do you use to compose web pages, Robert?

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Re: HTML Editor w/ WYSIWYG & Manual Editing

Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:

> Robert Baer wrote:
>
>
>>Use a *dumb* test editor!
>
>
> Yup, I use a test editor myself.
>
> What do you use to compose web pages, Robert?
>
I use KEDIT most of the time.

Re: HTML Editor w/ WYSIWYG & Manual Editing

Robert Baer wrote:

> Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
>> Robert Baer wrote:
>>> Use a *dumb* test editor!
>>
>> Yup, I use a test editor myself.
>>
>> What do you use to compose web pages, Robert?
>
> I use KEDIT most of the time.

Try Crimson Editor...
http://crimsoneditor.com/

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Re: HTML Editor w/ WYSIWYG & Manual Editing

Trish wrote:
>> I just had a bad experience using MS Word as an HTML editor. It
>> bloated more than 200% so I could barely recognize the essential
>> statements; and it introduced more than 14,000 errors. Also, although
>> it displayed fine in Firefox, it was unintelligible to IE. I spent
>> the day trying to reduce the errors to the point wherel HTML Tidy
>> could finish a pass without aborting. Finally I succeeded. No
>> errors. It displays fine in Firefox & IE.
>>
>> BUT, my question is, what can I use for an editor now? I'd like to be
>> able to insert table rows and columns with the ease of MS Word, but I
>> want no errors and I want an HTML code that I can still modify
>> myself. What can you recommend?
>>
>> Thanks a lot.
>> Trish

AOL Press is an oldie but a goodie.

http://www.daviestrek.com/software/aolpress/

Re: HTML Editor w/ WYSIWYG & Manual Editing

Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
> Robert Baer wrote:
>
>> Use a *dumb* test editor!
>
> Yup, I use a test editor myself.
>
> What do you use to compose web pages, Robert?
>

$10 says it ain't nothing by Microsoft


biff

Re: HTML Editor w/ WYSIWYG & Manual Editing

Glenn S. wrote:

> AOL Press is an oldie but a goodie.
>
> http://www.daviestrek.com/software/aolpress/
>

Not if you used it to create that page as a sample of its output.

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Re: HTML Editor w/ WYSIWYG & Manual Editing

"Jonathan N. Little" wrote in alt.html...

>Glenn S. wrote:
>
>> AOL Press is an oldie but a goodie.
>>
>> http://www.daviestrek.com/software/aolpress/
>>
>
>Not if you used it to create that page as a sample of its output.

I didn't create that page. Don't care who did.