Live editing within browser?

Live editing within browser?

am 21.07.2007 06:20:02 von M

A friend wants the ability to correct the odd bit of info on his webpage. He
has no desire to learn html and he is a complete and total noob wrt web
design.

I'm looking for a simple editor that will let him edit his pages in wysiwyg
mode and update live within his browser. HTML Quick Edit
(http://www.winutility.com/qeb/) just about fits the bill except that I
can't get the FTP function to work at all. Does anyone know of a tool with
similar ease of use.

(Note: He will not in anyway be changing the design of his page -- just the
visible info therein. . .)

M

Re: Live editing within browser?

am 21.07.2007 06:46:31 von MoiMoi

In article ,
nowhereman@twilightzone.net says...
> A friend wants the ability to correct the odd bit of info on his webpage. He
> has no desire to learn html and he is a complete and total noob wrt web
> design.
>
> I'm looking for a simple editor that will let him edit his pages in wysiwyg
> mode and update live within his browser. HTML Quick Edit
> (http://www.winutility.com/qeb/) just about fits the bill except that I
> can't get the FTP function to work at all. Does anyone know of a tool with
> similar ease of use.
>
> (Note: He will not in anyway be changing the design of his page -- just the
> visible info therein. . .)
>
> M

AFAIK, up through NetScape 7 has the HTML Composer component.
You can still download that from netscape.com.
It writes some rather funky HTML (lots of redundant tags, best I
remember), but worked okay.

MM

Re: Live editing within browser?

am 21.07.2007 06:54:40 von Ed Mullen

MoiMoi wrote:
> In article ,
> nowhereman@twilightzone.net says...
>> A friend wants the ability to correct the odd bit of info on his webpage. He
>> has no desire to learn html and he is a complete and total noob wrt web
>> design.
>>
>> I'm looking for a simple editor that will let him edit his pages in wysiwyg
>> mode and update live within his browser. HTML Quick Edit
>> (http://www.winutility.com/qeb/) just about fits the bill except that I
>> can't get the FTP function to work at all. Does anyone know of a tool with
>> similar ease of use.
>>
>> (Note: He will not in anyway be changing the design of his page -- just the
>> visible info therein. . .)
>>
>> M
>
> AFAIK, up through NetScape 7 has the HTML Composer component.
> You can still download that from netscape.com.
> It writes some rather funky HTML (lots of redundant tags, best I
> remember), but worked okay.
>
> MM
>
>
Much better would be Nvu. It's Composer split off from the
Netscape/Mozilla Suite. Nvu is far from perfect but it's a lot better
than the Composer component of either NS or Mozilla Suite.

http://www.nvu.com/index.php

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Re: Live editing within browser?

am 21.07.2007 07:05:24 von jmatt

On Jul 21, 12:20 pm, "M" wrote:

> I'm looking for a simple editor that will let him edit his pages in wysiwyg

Have a look here.

http://www.softpedia.com/progSearch/wysiwyg,1,1,1,1,1,0,0,0, 1,0

Re: Live editing within browser?

am 21.07.2007 08:14:50 von M

"Ed Mullen" wrote in message
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> MoiMoi wrote:
>> In article ,
>> nowhereman@twilightzone.net says...

> Much better would be Nvu. It's Composer split off from the
> Netscape/Mozilla Suite. Nvu is far from perfect but it's a lot better

Too complicated. This guy is REALLY a noob. Anything more complicated than a
simple RTF-style toolbar is likely to confuse him.

Also, in my experience with NVu and Kompozer, they tend to spontaneously
re-format the code on pages.

M

Re: Live editing within browser?

am 21.07.2007 08:14:50 von M

wrote in message
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> On Jul 21, 12:20 pm, "M" wrote:
>
>> I'm looking for a simple editor that will let him edit his pages in
>> wysiwyg
>
> Have a look here.
>
> http://www.softpedia.com/progSearch/wysiwyg,1,1,1,1,1,0,0,0, 1,0

Yikes. I'll start checking 'em out. . .

Thx.

M

Re: Live editing within browser?

am 21.07.2007 08:20:09 von mformetalhead

Am Sat, 21 Jul 2007 04:20:02 GMT schrieb M:

> A friend wants the ability to correct the odd bit of info on his webpage. He
> has no desire to learn html and he is a complete and total noob wrt web
> design.
>
> I'm looking for a simple editor that will let him edit his pages in wysiwyg
> mode and update live within his browser. HTML Quick Edit
> (http://www.winutility.com/qeb/) just about fits the bill except that I
> can't get the FTP function to work at all. Does anyone know of a tool with
> similar ease of use.
>
> (Note: He will not in anyway be changing the design of his page -- just the
> visible info therein. . .)
>
> M

I might have something for you!
http://www.snippetmaster.com/

It's a very handy tool that allows you to edit HTML files
directly online, or only certain parts of them.
The usage is comparable to Word, so your friend should
be able to cope with it.

There is a free (lite) and a pro edition, but the lite edition
is sufficient in most cases, i think.


~ Mathias

Re: Live editing within browser?

am 21.07.2007 08:40:29 von Sherm Pendley

"M" writes:

> "Ed Mullen" wrote in message
> news:FYSdndOGkYANDDzbnZ2dnUVZ_tzinZ2d@comcast.com...
>> MoiMoi wrote:
>>> In article ,
>>> nowhereman@twilightzone.net says...
>
>> Much better would be Nvu. It's Composer split off from the
>> Netscape/Mozilla Suite. Nvu is far from perfect but it's a lot better
>
> Too complicated. This guy is REALLY a noob. Anything more complicated than a
> simple RTF-style toolbar is likely to confuse him.

You could set him up with a simple content-management interface using FCKEditor
or some other in-browser editor. That would also avoid the whole upload issue
entirely - in my experience, uploading files tends to confuse non-technical
people as much or more than writing HTML code.

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Re: Live editing within browser?

am 21.07.2007 13:14:02 von jmatt

On Jul 21, 2:14 pm, "M" wrote:

> Yikes. I'll start checking 'em out. . .

If you don't find anything in those 10 pages, scroll down to the
bottom of the page & put in another word in place of wysiwyg in the
Search ctring & click Search alongside the new entry.

I just did & this looks suitable.

Total Web Kit
http://www.softpedia.com/get/Internet/WEB-Design/HTML-Editor s/Total-Web-Kit.shtml
http://www.totalwebkit.com/?r=f2

Re: Live editing within browser?

am 21.07.2007 19:26:50 von M

"Mathias K." wrote in message
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> Am Sat, 21 Jul 2007 04:20:02 GMT schrieb M:

> I might have something for you!
> http://www.snippetmaster.com/

Not sure if this is the right tool, but it intrigues me. It appears that you
wrap your editable content with specific comment tags. Does this mean I
would have to "wrap" each editable text area of my pages? That's a lot of
comment tags to litter throughout the site and would increase my
behind-the-scenes "housekeeping" horrendously.

Is my understanding correct? For example, the webpage in question includes a
lot of tabular data. Would each cell's content have to be wrapped separately
in a Snippetmaster tag in order to make it editable?

M

Re: Live editing within browser?

am 21.07.2007 20:15:10 von Edwin van der Vaart

jmatt@webace.com.au wrote:
> On Jul 21, 2:14 pm, "M" wrote:
>
>> Yikes. I'll start checking 'em out. . .
>
> If you don't find anything in those 10 pages, scroll down to the
> bottom of the page & put in another word in place of wysiwyg in the
> Search ctring & click Search alongside the new entry.
>
> I just did & this looks suitable.
>
> Total Web Kit
> http://www.softpedia.com/get/Internet/WEB-Design/HTML-Editor s/Total-Web-Kit.shtml
> http://www.totalwebkit.com/?r=f2
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Re: Live editing within browser?

am 22.07.2007 05:29:55 von M

"M" wrote in message
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> "Mathias K." wrote in message
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>> Am Sat, 21 Jul 2007 04:20:02 GMT schrieb M:
>
Got my answer, thx. It appears the Pro version would allow wysiwyg vs. text
mode editing but not the freeware version. The wysiwyg mode is the one that
would work for my friend. I don't want him to see or tinker with the 'behind
the scenes' stuff. Good concept though. . .

M

Re: Live editing within browser?

am 22.07.2007 10:51:27 von mformetalhead

Am Sun, 22 Jul 2007 03:29:55 GMT schrieb M:

> "M" wrote in message
> news:ulroi.134279$xq1.69792@pd7urf1no...
>> "Mathias K." wrote in message
>> news:8vph73fbb1ew$.15apawx77ncoj.dlg@40tude.net...
>>> Am Sat, 21 Jul 2007 04:20:02 GMT schrieb M:
>>
> Got my answer, thx. It appears the Pro version would allow wysiwyg vs. text
> mode editing but not the freeware version. The wysiwyg mode is the one that
> would work for my friend. I don't want him to see or tinker with the 'behind
> the scenes' stuff. Good concept though. . .
>
> M

Just to make that clear:
You can in fact also use WYSIWYG with the free version!
It's just that in "general options" you can choose how
to edit complete files, in text or wysiwyg mode. The first
option is standard.

Re: Live editing within browser?

am 22.07.2007 17:58:37 von M

"Mathias K." wrote in message
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> Am Sun, 22 Jul 2007 03:29:55 GMT schrieb M:

> Just to make that clear:
> You can in fact also use WYSIWYG with the free version!

Aaah, I'll check it out. . .

M