choosing framework

choosing framework

am 27.07.2007 11:04:07 von Stefano

Hello, I would like to learn a PHP5 framework:
I found many but I'm a little confused: which could be "the right one"?
I need a good community and an easy to use solution to implement medium
dimension solutions. Suggestions? Thanks.

Re: choosing framework

am 27.07.2007 16:29:35 von Junx

Stefano wrote:

>
> Hello, I would like to learn a PHP5 framework:
> I found many but I'm a little confused: which could be "the right one"?
> I need a good community and an easy to use solution to implement medium
> dimension solutions. Suggestions? Thanks.
I like to use PEAR modules as they're usually well supported. In PHP, I
tend not to use actual MVC frameworks; rather, I just wing it and make my
own. You can use Smarty for templates (V) and PDO/SDO or MDB2 or something
like that for the model.
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Re: choosing framework

am 27.07.2007 17:49:57 von Stefano

Matt Sicker wrote:
> In PHP, I
> tend not to use actual MVC frameworks; rather, I just wing it and make my
> own



ok, I perfectly understand what you say, but here where I live, and in
an enterprise environment, it is considered a valuable thing the ability
to use a framework

Re: choosing framework

am 27.07.2007 22:39:54 von piotr

Stefano napisał(a):
> Matt Sicker wrote:
>> In PHP, I
>> tend not to use actual MVC frameworks; rather, I just wing it and make my
>> own
>
>
>
> ok, I perfectly understand what you say, but here where I live, and in
> an enterprise environment, it is considered a valuable thing the ability
> to use a framework

It seems that CakePHP and ZendFramework are those with most active
community. For fast developing CakePHP, for lots functionality and
flexibility - ZF.

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Piotr N

Re: choosing framework

am 02.08.2007 22:49:11 von Henk Verhoeven

Piotr wrote:
> Stefano napisał(a):
>> Matt Sicker wrote:
>>> In PHP, I
>>> tend not to use actual MVC frameworks; rather, I just wing it and make my
>>> own
>>
>>
>> ok, I perfectly understand what you say, but here where I live, and in
>> an enterprise environment, it is considered a valuable thing the ability
>> to use a framework
>
> It seems that CakePHP and ZendFramework are those with most active
> community. For fast developing CakePHP, for lots functionality and
> flexibility - ZF.
>
Last time i took a look at ZF it was a very little bit of framework with
a lot of class library. Frameworks offer a basic structure to your
application, sort of an environment your application lives in. Your
application must 'fit in', otherwise it won't work. Class libraries just
offer classes and leave it to the application programmer how to use
them. The last is more flexible of course, but leaves a lot more work to
the application developer.

The only framework part i found in ZF is an MVC framework. It did no
scaffolding. Scaffolding is one of the features the Ruby on Rails hype
was based on. It automates a part of application development. For more
info see Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scaffold_%28programming%29

Nowadays several plugins are available that substantially extend the
native scaffolding of Rails. For more info see "Turbocharge Ruby on
Rails with ActiveScaffold" on IBM Developerworks,
http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/web/library/l-activescaffo ld/index.html

Greetings,

Henk Verhoeven,
www.phpPeanuts.org.

PhpPeanuts has been designed for extended scaffolding right from the
start and has accumulated 4 years of experience with it. You don't need
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