Firewall problem

My system admin in my office has recently installed some sort of proxy
where one needs authentication to be able to surf the internet. Its
fine for internet explorer where it just pops up a window asking for
user name and password but for programmes like skype, MSN explorer, it
doesnt ask for a p/w ans doesn't work at all!

I just wish to know if there's any way I can get around with this.

One solution I though might work is to install a proxy server for my
computer only and make all the programmes on my computer run through
that. And that proxy server would in turn authenticate at my admin's
server. Is that possible. Any suggestions for that?

Regards.

Re: Firewall problem

beatallica@gmail.com wrote:

> My system admin in my office has recently installed some sort of proxy
> where one needs authentication to be able to surf the internet. Its
> fine for internet explorer where it just pops up a window asking for
> user name and password but for programmes like skype, MSN explorer, it
> doesnt ask for a p/w ans doesn't work at all!

Fine, so the proxy seems to do exactly what the system admin wanted.

Wolfgang

Re: Firewall problem

On Jul 27, 4:44 pm, Wolfgang Kueter wrote:
> beatall...@gmail.com wrote:
> > My system admin in my office has recently installed some sort of proxy
> > where one needs authentication to be able to surf the internet. Its
> > fine for internet explorer where it just pops up a window asking for
> > user name and password but for programmes like skype, MSN explorer, it
> > doesnt ask for a p/w ans doesn't work at all!
>
> Fine, so the proxy seems to do exactly what the system admin wanted.
>
> Wolfgang

no, the admin is an idiot. There are some instructuions that internet
access should be monitored, so he installed that. There isn't any
policy against the use of these programmes.

Further, it wouldn't even allow Web Data Import feature in Excel to
work. The only thing I can get to work is int explorer, firefox and,
surprisingly, gchat.

Thanks.

Re: Firewall problem

In article <1185532534.475542.48310@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
beatallica@gmail.com says...
> My system admin in my office has recently installed some sort of proxy
> where one needs authentication to be able to surf the internet. Its
> fine for internet explorer where it just pops up a window asking for
> user name and password but for programmes like skype, MSN explorer, it
> doesnt ask for a p/w ans doesn't work at all!
>
> I just wish to know if there's any way I can get around with this.
>
> One solution I though might work is to install a proxy server for my
> computer only and make all the programmes on my computer run through
> that. And that proxy server would in turn authenticate at my admin's
> server. Is that possible. Any suggestions for that?

Do you want to get fired?

Do you always ask in public, in a security group, about how to violate
network security and company policy?

Do you really think that anyone here, at least any ethical person, will
tell you how to violate your company policy?

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Re: Firewall problem

On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 03:35:34 -0700, beatallica wrote:

> My system admin in my office has recently installed some sort of proxy
> where one needs authentication to be able to surf the internet. Its
> fine for internet explorer where it just pops up a window asking for
> user name and password but for programmes like skype, MSN explorer, it
> doesnt ask for a p/w ans doesn't work at all!
>
> I just wish to know if there's any way I can get around with this.
>
> One solution I though might work is to install a proxy server for my
> computer only and make all the programmes on my computer run through
> that. And that proxy server would in turn authenticate at my admin's
> server. Is that possible. Any suggestions for that?
>
> Regards.

Ask your admin nicely. He might be able to help you. Or he might explain
why certain programs are blocked.

Rudy

P.S.
Your admin might read this group! :-)

Re: Firewall problem

beatallica@gmail.com wrote:


> no, the admin is an idiot.

I doubt that, I assume the idiot to be elsewhere.

Wolfgang

Re: Firewall problem

wrote in message
news:1185538899.361857.181760@g12g2000prg.googlegroups.com.. .
> On Jul 27, 4:44 pm, Wolfgang Kueter wrote:
>> beatall...@gmail.com wrote:
>> > My system admin in my office has recently installed some sort of proxy
>> > where one needs authentication to be able to surf the internet. Its
>> > fine for internet explorer where it just pops up a window asking for
>> > user name and password but for programmes like skype, MSN explorer, it
>> > doesnt ask for a p/w ans doesn't work at all!
>>
>> Fine, so the proxy seems to do exactly what the system admin wanted.
>>
>> Wolfgang
>
> no, the admin is an idiot. There are some instructuions that internet
> access should be monitored, so he installed that. There isn't any
> policy against the use of these programmes.

The admin made the policy, and you're not in control of that policy. You got
a problem, then take it up with the admin and management.

All that's going to happen is they are going to tell you to go back to your
desk and do your job the company is paying you to do and not what you want
to do.

In the meantime, they will keep an eye on you to see what you're doing on
company time.

Re: Firewall problem

On Jul 28, 4:40 am, "Mr. Arnold" wrote:
> wrote in message
>
> news:1185538899.361857.181760@g12g2000prg.googlegroups.com.. .
>
> > On Jul 27, 4:44 pm, Wolfgang Kueter wrote:
> >> beatall...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> > My system admin in my office has recently installed some sort of proxy
> >> > where one needs authentication to be able to surf the internet. Its
> >> > fine for internet explorer where it just pops up a window asking for
> >> > user name and password but for programmes like skype, MSN explorer, it
> >> > doesnt ask for a p/w ans doesn't work at all!
>
> >> Fine, so the proxy seems to do exactly what the system admin wanted.
>
> >> Wolfgang
>
> > no, the admin is an idiot. There are some instructuions that internet
> > access should be monitored, so he installed that. There isn't any
> > policy against the use of these programmes.
>
> The admin made the policy, and you're not in control of that policy. You got
> a problem, then take it up with the admin and management.
>
> All that's going to happen is they are going to tell you to go back to your
> desk and do your job the company is paying you to do and not what you want
> to do.
>
> In the meantime, they will keep an eye on you to see what you're doing on
> company time.


Dear All,

Thank you for your concern about me not losing my job. Just to clear
things up, there is no such thing as a "policy" in my company. It is a
small establishment with 20 people and users not being able to use
Remote Desktop Connections/Skype etc is the last thing they are
concerned about.

Sorry for the harsh tone but there is no other word to describe my
admin. He was told by the company head that we should be able to
monitor users' internet access and, thus, he installed a Firewall. He
has absolutely no idea how it works or even what 'ports' are. He
followed the instruction manual word by word. The educational
qualificatons of my 'admin' are having dropped out of his A-Levels and
having managed an internet cafe with 10 computers before this.

I do hope you will all be able to appreciate my situation better now
and would understand that I am NOT trying to override any company
policy. I am just (mostly) trying to access my remote desktop to be
able to be more efficient. And am trying to install skype to be able
to be in touch with my family. No hard feelings.

Hope to hear soon.

Regards,
B

Re: Firewall problem

In article <1185774011.912104.128190@z28g2000prd.googlegroups.com>,
beatallica@gmail.com says...
> I do hope you will all be able to appreciate my situation better now
> and would understand that I am NOT trying to override any company
> policy. I am just (mostly) trying to access my remote desktop to be
> able to be more efficient. And am trying to install skype to be able
> to be in touch with my family. No hard feelings.

And we hope that you understand that your story is just a story to the
world. If you want access, stop crying here, get with the admin and make
it happen with his permission and help. No ethical person in any group
is going to help you get around security no matter how much you cry
about it.

Your only solution is to make your Boss aware of what you need for
business purpose and to get the Boss to tell the admin to do it.

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- Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum.
- Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a
drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist"
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Re: Firewall problem

beatallica@gmail.com wrote:


> I do hope you will all be able to appreciate my situation better now
> and would understand that I am NOT trying to override any company
> policy. I am just (mostly) trying to access my remote desktop to be
> able to be more efficient.


Then talk to your firewall admin.

> And am trying to install skype to be able to be in touch with my family.

> No hard feelings.

But you should understand that installing software, installing evil software
like Skype, and having Skype in your company network is a bad bad bad
thing. If you really consider your company would benefit from a VoIP system
that might also be used for private purposes (on a small time scale), you
might ask for a SIP or H.32x based system, but surely you won't ever get Skype.

Re: Firewall problem

In article <1185774011.912104.128190@z28g2000prd.googlegroups.com>,
beatallica@gmail.com says...
> I do hope you will all be able to appreciate my situation better now
> and would understand that I am NOT trying to override any company
> policy. I am just (mostly) trying to access my remote desktop to be
> able to be more efficient. And am trying to install skype to be able
> to be in touch with my family. No hard feelings.

And you don't seem to understand, as ethical network people we're not
going to tell you how to get around the firewall, it's just not ethical.

As for Skype and your family - that's PERSONAL and has no place on
business networks. If you should not be using the telephone at your desk
then you sure as heck should not be using the company network either.

--

Leythos
- Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum.
- Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a
drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist"
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