Newbie to Apache server

Newbie to Apache server

am 31.07.2007 16:49:40 von kp400sf

Does Linux come with Apache already installed (much like Mac OS) and
if so how do I start it? If not, which Unix Source (preferrably
binary, so I don't have to tie myself in knots with compilers & make
files) should I download?

Unix Source: httpd-2.2.4.tar.gz [PGP] [MD5]
Unix Source: httpd-2.2.4.tar.bz2 [PGP] [MD5]
Unix Source: httpd-2.0.59.tar.gz [PGP] [MD5]
Unix Source: httpd-2.0.59.tar.bz2 [PGP] [MD5]

Re: Newbie to Apache server

am 31.07.2007 17:02:34 von Mark Taylor

kp400sf wrote in news:1185893380.093021.114570
@z28g2000prd.googlegroups.com:

> Does Linux come with Apache already installed (much like Mac OS) and
> if so how do I start it? If not, which Unix Source (preferrably
> binary, so I don't have to tie myself in knots with compilers & make
> files) should I download?
>
> Unix Source: httpd-2.2.4.tar.gz [PGP] [MD5]
> Unix Source: httpd-2.2.4.tar.bz2 [PGP] [MD5]
> Unix Source: httpd-2.0.59.tar.gz [PGP] [MD5]
> Unix Source: httpd-2.0.59.tar.bz2 [PGP] [MD5]
>
>

Linux is nothing more than the kernel and some support programs. Exactly
where did you get your linux from? Various flavors of linux are 'packaged'
into system like Red Hat, Ubuntu, FreeBSD, etc, etc... each of those
already have a suite of programs pre installed or available from them in
packages.

Otherwise you will have to obtain the source and compile it yourself. The
package you choose may very well depend on which zip program you have. The
2.2.4.tar.gz will be the most likely one to use. gzip is almost always pre
installed.



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Re: Newbie to Apache server

am 31.07.2007 17:34:53 von melsonr

In article ,
Mark Taylor writes:
> kp400sf wrote in news:1185893380.093021.114570
> @z28g2000prd.googlegroups.com:
>

> Linux is nothing more than the kernel and some support programs. Exactly
> where did you get your linux from? Various flavors of linux are 'packaged'
> into system like Red Hat, Ubuntu, FreeBSD, etc, etc... each of those
.................................... ^^^^^^^ FreeBSD is not a form
of Linux, which is, as you point out, based on Torvalds' kernel
development and - usually - GNU add-ons. FreeBSD, as well as Net-
and OpenBSD, are derived from work on the original AT&T UNIX code
at the CSRG at UCal Berkeley and the 4.4BSD source released from
there in the 90s. While there's some dispute over whether the
BSDs are UNIX or not, they probably come closer to traditional
UNIX than do any of the Linux systems available. My own feeling
is that the distinction is pointless and really has to do only
with the restrictions placed on the UNIX name by the current
owner. If it walks like a duck, looks like a duck, sounds like
a duck, it probably IS a duck.

> already have a suite of programs pre installed or available from them in
> packages.

Base system FreeBSD does not come with Apache pre-installed. But
the ports and packages system simplifies the problem with a set
of well done makefiles if you want to "roll your own" or pre-built,
downloadable binary packages for those who have neither time nor
space nor inclination.

>
> Otherwise you will have to obtain the source and compile it yourself. The
> package you choose may very well depend on which zip program you have. The
> 2.2.4.tar.gz will be the most likely one to use. gzip is almost always pre
> installed.
>
>
>
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Re: Newbie to Apache server

am 31.07.2007 17:58:53 von gerryt

On Jul 31, 7:49 am, kp400sf wrote:
> Does Linux come with Apache already installed (much like Mac OS) and
> if so how do I start it?
How do you start it?
As someone already asked which Linux? There must be a 100 of them
You might find it hard to find any recent UNIX type release w/o Apache
installed
but not enabled by default. Solaris 10 comes with 1.3.36 and 2.0.58
for example.
Im surprised that you can get Apache running on "Mac OS" but cant grok
the method to start it up on a UNIX like box. I find working with OS X
a tad on the strange side for stuff like this coming from Solaris/BSD
ville

> If not, which Unix Source (preferrably
> binary, so I don't have to tie myself in knots with compilers & make
> files) should I download?

Go by what apache.org suggests and get the latest and greatest...
But unless if you have very specific requirements, an out of the box
supported by vendor version of Apache should get you by for now.

Re: Newbie to Apache server

am 31.07.2007 19:29:34 von kp400sf

On Jul 31, 8:02 am, Mark Taylor wrote:
> kp400sf wrote in news:1185893380.093021.114570
> @z28g2000prd.googlegroups.com:
>
> > Does Linux come with Apache already installed (much like Mac OS) and
> > if so how do I start it? If not, which Unix Source (preferrably
> > binary, so I don't have to tie myself in knots with compilers & make
> > files) should I download?
>
> > Unix Source: httpd-2.2.4.tar.gz [PGP] [MD5]
> > Unix Source: httpd-2.2.4.tar.bz2 [PGP] [MD5]
> > Unix Source: httpd-2.0.59.tar.gz [PGP] [MD5]
> > Unix Source: httpd-2.0.59.tar.bz2 [PGP] [MD5]
>
> Linux is nothing more than the kernel and some support programs. Exactly
> where did you get your linux from? Various flavors of linux are 'packaged'
> into system like Red Hat, Ubuntu, FreeBSD, etc, etc... each of those
> already have a suite of programs pre installed or available from them in
> packages.
>
> Otherwise you will have to obtain the source and compile it yourself. The
> package you choose may very well depend on which zip program you have. The
> 2.2.4.tar.gz will be the most likely one to use. gzip is almost always pre
> installed.
>
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Hi;

I'm running a knoppix virtual appliance on a XP Pro sp2 Dell laptop if
that helps clarify what I'm trying to do... Like I said, I'm a brand-
spanking new newbie with Unix, Linux and Apache server.

regards

Re: Newbie to Apache server

am 01.08.2007 08:13:37 von David McKenzie

kp400sf wrote:
> On Jul 31, 8:02 am, Mark Taylor wrote:
>> kp400sf wrote in news:1185893380.093021.114570
>> @z28g2000prd.googlegroups.com:
>>
>>> Does Linux come with Apache already installed (much like Mac OS) and
>>> if so how do I start it? If not, which Unix Source (preferrably
>>> binary, so I don't have to tie myself in knots with compilers & make
>>> files) should I download?
>>> Unix Source: httpd-2.2.4.tar.gz [PGP] [MD5]
>>> Unix Source: httpd-2.2.4.tar.bz2 [PGP] [MD5]
>>> Unix Source: httpd-2.0.59.tar.gz [PGP] [MD5]
>>> Unix Source: httpd-2.0.59.tar.bz2 [PGP] [MD5]
>> Linux is nothing more than the kernel and some support programs. Exactly
>> where did you get your linux from? Various flavors of linux are 'packaged'
>> into system like Red Hat, Ubuntu, FreeBSD, etc, etc... each of those
>> already have a suite of programs pre installed or available from them in
>> packages.
>>
>> Otherwise you will have to obtain the source and compile it yourself. The
>> package you choose may very well depend on which zip program you have. The
>> 2.2.4.tar.gz will be the most likely one to use. gzip is almost always pre
>> installed.
>>
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>
> Hi;
>
> I'm running a knoppix virtual appliance on a XP Pro sp2 Dell laptop if
> that helps clarify what I'm trying to do... Like I said, I'm a brand-
> spanking new newbie with Unix, Linux and Apache server.
>
> regards
>
It's usually run by /etc/init.d/httpd start on a Debian flavour such as
Knoppix. Although it sounds like you're suicidal running httpd on
Knoppix within a virtual machine.

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