ie6 peekaboo problem

I have been working on this site for a while and it just won't display
correctly in ie6, I've been working on fixing this issue for that last
day or so and am getting tired of it. Figured you guys might be throw
some new ideas my way. Anyways the site would be
http://www.curepity.org/default.cfm/PID=1.1.8
what is should look like
http://flickr.com/photos/nomads_land/957463627/
what it looks like in ie6
http://flickr.com/photos/nomads_land/958026355/

I can get the content to kinda appear correctly with zoom:1 added to
the h3 tag and p tag, but I was hoping for a better workaround.

Re: ie6 peekaboo problem

> Emergence wrote:
> news: 1185857461.529792.138180@x40g2000prg.googlegroups.com
> I have been working on this site for a while and it just won't display
> correctly in ie6, I've been working on fixing this issue for that last
> day or so and am getting tired of it. Figured you guys might be throw
> some new ideas my way. Anyways the site would be
> http://www.curepity.org/default.cfm/PID=1.1.8
> what is should look like
> http://flickr.com/photos/nomads_land/957463627/
> what it looks like in ie6
> http://flickr.com/photos/nomads_land/958026355/
>
> I can get the content to kinda appear correctly with zoom:1 added to
> the h3 tag and p tag, but I was hoping for a better workaround.

Have you tried to add
* { line-height:1.3;}
to your css?

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Re: ie6 peekaboo problem

BootNic wrote:
>> Emergence wrote:
>> news: 1185857461.529792.138180@x40g2000prg.googlegroups.com
>> I have been working on this site for a while and it just won't display
>> correctly in ie6, I've been working on fixing this issue for that last
>> day or so and am getting tired of it. Figured you guys might be throw
>> some new ideas my way. Anyways the site would be
>> http://www.curepity.org/default.cfm/PID=1.1.8
>> what is should look like
>> http://flickr.com/photos/nomads_land/957463627/
>> what it looks like in ie6
>> http://flickr.com/photos/nomads_land/958026355/
>>
>> I can get the content to kinda appear correctly with zoom:1 added to
>> the h3 tag and p tag, but I was hoping for a better workaround.
>
> Have you tried to add
> * { line-height:1.3;}
> to your css?
>

I can confirm that in most cases setting the line-height to *any* value
and not relying on IE's default usually cures the IE Peekaboo bug and a
number of other IE float problems...

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Re: ie6 peekaboo problem

Emergence wrote:

> I have been working on this site for a while and it just won't display
> correctly in ie6, I've been working on fixing this issue for that
> last day or so and am getting tired of it. Figured you guys might be
> throw some new ideas my way. Anyways the site would be
> http://www.curepity.org/default.cfm/PID=1.1.8

I believe it would help your cause greatly if you would write error-free
markup to start. You also want to use a DOCTYPE that does not throw IE
(and other browsers) into quirks mode. Use:

"http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd">

...instead of your partial Transitional doctype.

See your errors here:

"Failed validation, 41 Errors"

You are also mixing HTML 4.0, HTML 4.01, and XHTML, never a good start.

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Re: ie6 peekaboo problem

Trust me if I could I would rewire the entire thing into a strict
form, but I am working with old code for a company and so much of the
code gets called in from other pages that becomes a headache
occasionally. Yes I did check my errors the section of code where I
have done has no errors but everything else does, such a distress.

Re: ie6 peekaboo problem

Emergence wrote:

> Trust me if I could I would rewire the entire thing into a strict
> form, but I am working with old code for a company and so much of the
> code gets called in from other pages that becomes a headache
> occasionally. Yes I did check my errors the section of code where I
> have done has no errors but everything else does, such a distress.

Do you have control over what doctype is used? If you want to remain as
Traditional (probably ok as you now describe the page as "old code"
instead of a new effort), at least use a complete one.

"http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd">

http://www.w3.org/QA/2002/04/valid-dtd-list.html

With the mix you have, you'll have little success getting browsers to
agree on how to display it. Have you seen these pages yet?

http://www.positioniseverything.net/explorer/peekaboo.html
http://www.positioniseverything.net/explorer/threepxtest.htm l

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Re: ie6 peekaboo problem

I've been reworking a lot of there old code and if I do come across
the area where you can change the doctype I will be doing that as soon
as I can but for now I have to bide my time, a lot of sites to
reconfigure settings for along my other responsibilities. I did get
the page fixed with the line-height, just had to reconfigure some of
my other line-heights as well, thanks for your help.

Re: ie6 peekaboo problem

In article
,
"Beauregard T. Shagnasty" wrote:

> Have you seen these pages yet?
>
> http://www.positioniseverything.net/explorer/peekaboo.html


"Note: This long standing bug has been suppressed in IE7
(released in late 2006), so the Peekaboo Bug is finally on the
way out."

How's that for a lingering prejudice against MS browsers!

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Re: ie6 peekaboo problem

On 2007-07-31, dorayme wrote:
> In article
>,
> "Beauregard T. Shagnasty" wrote:
>
>> Have you seen these pages yet?
>>
>> http://www.positioniseverything.net/explorer/peekaboo.html
>
>
> "Note: This long standing bug has been suppressed in IE7
> (released in late 2006), so the Peekaboo Bug is finally on the
> way out."
>
> How's that for a lingering prejudice against MS browsers!

There's no prejudice at all. It is a judgement based on an
examination the features and bugs of IE.


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Re: ie6 peekaboo problem

In article <0c05o4-9ti.ln1@xword.teksavvy.com>,
"Chris F.A. Johnson" wrote:

> On 2007-07-31, dorayme wrote:
> > In article
> >,
> > "Beauregard T. Shagnasty" wrote:
> >
> >> Have you seen these pages yet?
> >>
> >> http://www.positioniseverything.net/explorer/peekaboo.html
> >
> >
> > "Note: This long standing bug has been suppressed in IE7
> > (released in late 2006), so the Peekaboo Bug is finally on the
> > way out."
> >
> > How's that for a lingering prejudice against MS browsers!
>
> There's no prejudice at all. It is a judgement based on an
> examination the features and bugs of IE.

You have missed my point completely.

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Re: ie6 peekaboo problem

dorayme wrote:
> In article <0c05o4-9ti.ln1@xword.teksavvy.com>,
> "Chris F.A. Johnson" wrote:
>
>> On 2007-07-31, dorayme wrote:
>>> In article
>>> ,
>>> "Beauregard T. Shagnasty" wrote:
>>>
>>>> http://www.positioniseverything.net/explorer/peekaboo.html
>>>
>>> "Note: This long standing bug has been suppressed in IE7
>>> (released in late 2006), so the Peekaboo Bug is finally on the
>>> way out."
>>>
>>> How's that for a lingering prejudice against MS browsers!
>> There's no prejudice at all. It is a judgement based on an
>> examination the features and bugs of IE.
>
> You have missed my point completely.

So have I. You lost me on this one, dorayme.

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Re: ie6 peekaboo problem

Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Wed, 01 Aug 2007 00:22:56 GMT
Chris F.A. Johnson scribed:

> On 2007-07-31, dorayme wrote:
>> In article
>>,
>> "Beauregard T. Shagnasty" wrote:
>>
>>> Have you seen these pages yet?
>>>
>>> http://www.positioniseverything.net/explorer/peekaboo.html
>>
>>
>> "Note: This long standing bug has been suppressed in IE7
>> (released in late 2006), so the Peekaboo Bug is finally on the
>> way out."
>>
>> How's that for a lingering prejudice against MS browsers!
>
> There's no prejudice at all. It is a judgement based on an
> examination the features and bugs of IE.

....And they said you didn't have a sense of humor.

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Re: ie6 peekaboo problem

In article <46b000d4_1@news.bluewin.ch>,
John Hosking wrote:

> dorayme wrote:
> > In article <0c05o4-9ti.ln1@xword.teksavvy.com>,
> > "Chris F.A. Johnson" wrote:
> >
> >> On 2007-07-31, dorayme wrote:
> >>> In article
> >>> ,
> >>> "Beauregard T. Shagnasty" wrote:OK, John. I know Johnson is a cluey guy and I was not wanting to spoon feed him. Been feeling awkward and cussed. But something just went right with my work and my mood has lifted.

> >>>> http://www.positioniseverything.net/explorer/peekaboo.html
> >>>
> >>> "Note: This long standing bug has been suppressed in IE7
> >>> (released in late 2006), so the Peekaboo Bug is finally on the
> >>> way out."
> >>>
> >>> How's that for a lingering prejudice against MS browsers!
> >> There's no prejudice at all. It is a judgement based on an
> >> examination the features and bugs of IE.
> >
> > You have missed my point completely.
>
> So have I. You lost me on this one, dorayme.

OK, John. Been feeling awkward and cussed lately. But something
just went right with my work and my mood has lifted.

There are three pictures to paint in the absence of real
knowledge of the code behind IE7, two of them exist in the real
world and one in Alice's.

(1) The bug is not there.

(2) The bug is there.

(3) The bug is there and not there.

One could say that which one chooses - in the absence of real MS
code knowledge - would be influenced by one's emotions, one's
prejudices and passions. These are hot things that can sway the
normally cool brain.

If one chooses (1), then, well... it does not have the bug. The
bug is not there. It does not exist in IE7. It is not
"suppressed" or "on the way out". It is gone. There is no bug to
be ex or pro or ante or pre or on the way in or out or anything.
It is not there lurking suppressed. It is not there with some big
guys holding it down or in a locked petri dish immersed with bug
anaesthetic in some corner of IE7. It is not any kind of bug.
There is no such bug. The unprejudiced or unscarred mind would
simply describe the situation as one where the software is
that-particular-bug-free.

Now, the prejudiced mind, especially the one with some brain
power, will obviously not choose (2). It would love to choose (2)
if it thought it could get away with it. But the average
prejudiced schmuck (as we all are at times) does not like his
schmuckery revealed too openly. Clearly, to choose (2) without
qualification would endanger a standing as a non-schmuck.

So, what to do? It is not too hard. Remember, we are talking
about schmucks with some brains. Obvious, my dear Watson, you
sort of try paint a picture where the odium of (2) is still there
without actually saying it is there full stop. Hence the handy
(3) comes into the picture.

OK, I hear you say, but (3) is a self-contradiction and the
schmuck in question has brains. He is not going to openly embrace
a contradiction. (Schmucks have an unreasonably paranoid fear of
contradiction. Sure, these are not nice things, but there are
worse things. Schmucks have no sense of perspective or
proportion. They are always going too far. They can rave on and
on.). You would be right in this John. Dead right! No, the
schmuck would not publicly and openly embrace (3).

The trick is to embrace (3) but hide it in a wrapper, that's
where the talk of "suppressing" and "on the way out" comes in.

Thank you for giving me the opportunity to say something without
interruption. I feel better now.

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Re: ie6 peekaboo problem

dorayme wrote:
> In article <46b000d4_1@news.bluewin.ch>,
> John Hosking wrote:
>
>> dorayme wrote:

>>> You have missed my point completely.
>> So have I. You lost me on this one, dorayme.
>
> There are three pictures to paint in the absence of real
> knowledge of the code behind IE7, two of them exist in the real
> world and one in Alice's.

[Three elaborately painted pictures (complete with large ornate frames
and little lights to illuminate the artwork) snipped]

>
> Thank you for giving me the opportunity to say something without
> interruption. I feel better now.

Martian painters 1, Earthlings 0 ;-)

--
John

Re: ie6 peekaboo problem

Didn't think this topic wouldn't fuel such an argument. Last I
remember Microsoft said they realized they haven't been following the
standards as well as they should be and are working towards a better
job at becoming standardized. Now if only I could find that article.

Re: ie6 peekaboo problem

On 2007-07-31, Emergence wrote:
> I've been reworking a lot of there old code and if I do come across
> the area where you can change the doctype I will be doing that as soon
> as I can...

Its at the very top :-)

Andrew


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