Orphaned modules (was: compiling Inline::Ruby on win32)

hmm..

So -- ruby uses 'native' signals on win32 and perl rolls it own? Is that the major issue?
Too bad.. it would be awfully nice to be able to 'borrow' any APIs that ruby folks
write, and roll them up into CPAN.

Anyways, apparently HttpWatch has a generic COM interface (not a ruby-only) extension,
so I was going to write perl around that, but I'm running into other issues.


In particular, it looks like Win32::Setupsup and Win32::SAM are both sort of
orphaned modules that are fairly essential to controlling internet explorer in
a fine, granularized way (ie: firing up IE and populating both main windows and closing
popups), so I was hoping that I could get those working.


However, both don't seem to have ppms, and setupsup is not even listed on CPAN
(although after doing some grepping I see you can get it at
(http://www.cpan.org/modules/by-module/Win32/setupsup.1.0.1. 0.zip)

Does anyone have an idea whether these are going to make it to ppms for 5.8?
I also see that setupsup in particular requires a SDK. Is there a separate
requirement that I need to compile this, or is visualc++ 6.0 sufficient?


Thanks,

Ed

On Fri, Aug 10, 2007 at 05:22:12PM +1000, Sisyphus wrote:
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ed S. Peschko"
> To:
> Cc: "Jan Dubois" ; "Eric Promislow"
> ; "Gisle Aas" ;
> ; "Todd Whiteman"
>
> Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2007 4:15 PM
> Subject: [SPAM?] Compilation of Inline::Ruby on win32
>
>
> >All,
> >
> >I'm trying to compile Inline::Ruby on win32, using visualc++ v6 and
> >activestate perl, without too much luck, in trying to get HttpWatch
> >to work with perl.
> >
> >In particular, I'm having difficulty with the headers.
>
> As it stands, signal.h and Win32 perl are incompatible. You can't #include
> on Win32 when building perl extensions. And I think signal.h
> gets pulled in as soon as you #include "ruby.h".
>
> So it looks like an impasse to me - though, faik, it may be possible to
> hack your way through it.
>
> ---------------------------------------
> C:\_32\pscrpt\inline>type try.pl
>
> use warnings;
>
> use Inline C => <<'EOC';
>
> #include
>
> void foo() {
> printf("Hello World\n");
> }
>
> EOC
>
> foo();
>
> C:\_32\pscrpt\inline>perl try.pl
> .
>
> .
> In file included from try_pl_3fe7.xs:6:
> C:/_32/MinGW/bin/../lib/gcc/mingw32/3.4.5/../../../../includ e/signal.h:84:
> error: syntax error before '(' token
> dmake: Error code 129, while making 'try_pl_3fe7.o'
> .
>
> .
> BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at try.pl line 12.
>
> ---------------------------------------
>
> I could find ppm's for many of the Inline::* modules, but not Inline::Ruby
> - which also is not a good sign.
>
> Cheers,
> Rob
>
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Re: Orphaned modules (was: compiling Inline::Ruby on win32)

On Fri, 10 Aug 2007, Ed S. Peschko wrote:

> In particular, it looks like Win32::Setupsup and Win32::SAM are both sort of
> orphaned modules that are fairly essential to controlling internet explorer in
> a fine, granularized way (ie: firing up IE and populating both main windows and closing
> popups), so I was hoping that I could get those working.
>
> However, both don't seem to have ppms, and setupsup is not even listed on CPAN
> (although after doing some grepping I see you can get it at
> (http://www.cpan.org/modules/by-module/Win32/setupsup.1.0.1. 0.zip)

There's a Win32-Setupsup ppm package available at
http://theoryx5.uwinnipeg.ca/ppms/

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best regards,
Randy Kobes
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Re: Orphaned modules (was: compiling Inline::Ruby on win32)

On Fri, Aug 10, 2007 at 09:39:46PM -0500, Randy Kobes wrote:
> On Fri, 10 Aug 2007, Ed S. Peschko wrote:
>
> >In particular, it looks like Win32::Setupsup and Win32::SAM are both sort
> >of
> >orphaned modules that are fairly essential to controlling internet
> >explorer in
> >a fine, granularized way (ie: firing up IE and populating both main
> >windows and closing
> >popups), so I was hoping that I could get those working.
> >
> >However, both don't seem to have ppms, and setupsup is not even listed on
> >CPAN
> >(although after doing some grepping I see you can get it at
> >(http://www.cpan.org/modules/by-module/Win32/setupsup.1.0.1 .0.zip)
>
> There's a Win32-Setupsup ppm package available at
> http://theoryx5.uwinnipeg.ca/ppms/
>
> --
> best regards,
> Randy Kobes

Great - who maintains it? If they could possibly both get the changes to code
(to make it work) into CPAN so that you can actually search for it, and make it
more standard (ie: if activestate could support it), it would be greatly appreciated..

hmm.. I see that Jens Helburg supports it.. so I'll send him a message.

Ed
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Re: Orphaned modules (was: compiling Inline::Ruby on win32)

On Fri, Aug 10, 2007 at 09:39:46PM -0500, Randy Kobes wrote:
> On Fri, 10 Aug 2007, Ed S. Peschko wrote:
>
> >In particular, it looks like Win32::Setupsup and Win32::SAM are both sort
> >of
> >orphaned modules that are fairly essential to controlling internet
> >explorer in
> >a fine, granularized way (ie: firing up IE and populating both main
> >windows and closing
> >popups), so I was hoping that I could get those working.
> >
> >However, both don't seem to have ppms, and setupsup is not even listed on
> >CPAN
> >(although after doing some grepping I see you can get it at
> >(http://www.cpan.org/modules/by-module/Win32/setupsup.1.0.1 .0.zip)
>
> There's a Win32-Setupsup ppm package available at
> http://theoryx5.uwinnipeg.ca/ppms/
>
> --
> best regards,
> Randy Kobes

Great - who maintains it? If they could possibly both get the changes to code
(to make it work) into CPAN so that you can actually search for it, and make it
more standard (ie: if activestate could support it), it would be greatly appreciated..

hmm.. I see that Jens Helburg supports it.. so I'll send him a message.

Ed
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Re: Orphaned modules (was: compiling Inline::Ruby on win32)

On Fri, 10 Aug 2007, Ed S. Peschko wrote:

> In particular, it looks like Win32::Setupsup and Win32::SAM are both sort of
> orphaned modules that are fairly essential to controlling internet explorer in
> a fine, granularized way (ie: firing up IE and populating both main windows and closing
> popups), so I was hoping that I could get those working.
>
> However, both don't seem to have ppms, and setupsup is not even listed on CPAN
> (although after doing some grepping I see you can get it at
> (http://www.cpan.org/modules/by-module/Win32/setupsup.1.0.1. 0.zip)

There's a Win32-Setupsup ppm package available at
http://theoryx5.uwinnipeg.ca/ppms/

--
best regards,
Randy Kobes
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