Buying Dreamweaver in USA (I live in UK)

Hi there,

OK I know this is an HTML group but maybe other UK residents have done the
same. As you may know Dreamweaver in the US is half the price of the UK.

So I want to know if it is worth me buying it from the US? Will I have any
difficulties. The way I see it, it could be feasible that I purchased
something in the US for my laptop and then moved to the UK right?

Anyone else gone to the effort of doing this?

Thanks

Re: Buying Dreamweaver in USA (I live in UK)

Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Sun, 12 Aug 2007 13:56:12
GMT cluthz scribed:

> Hi there,
>
> OK I know this is an HTML group but maybe other UK residents have done
> the same. As you may know Dreamweaver in the US is half the price of
> the UK.
>
> So I want to know if it is worth me buying it from the US? Will I have
> any difficulties. The way I see it, it could be feasible that I
> purchased something in the US for my laptop and then moved to the UK
> right?

Nope, can't be legally done. They'd shoot you as a spy, especially if
you're a Tory. One way around this restriction is you could pay a U.S.
citizen to hand-carry the program over for you. Said benefactor will then
stay in a London hotel for a few weeks until making the transfer once the
heat's off. It's a bit of a stretch, but you know how spunky us Yanks are.
Perhaps I could even locate a volunteer if you're interested.

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Re: Buying Dreamweaver in USA (I live in UK)

"Neredbojias" wrote in message
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> Nope, can't be legally done. They'd shoot you as a spy, especially if
> you're a Tory. One way around this restriction is you could pay a U.S.
> citizen to hand-carry the program over for you. Said benefactor will then
> stay in a London hotel for a few weeks until making the transfer once the
> heat's off. It's a bit of a stretch, but you know how spunky us Yanks
> are.
> Perhaps I could even locate a volunteer if you're interested.
>
Thanks for the offer. I do have someone who could buy it for me thanks. It's
just that I'm worried that I wont be entitled to updates or some other weird
restriction will come into effect. You know the money saved would almost
even pay for the flight.

Or is it just easier for me to bite the bullet and frustratingly the full UK
price.

Re: Buying Dreamweaver in USA (I live in UK)

Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Sun, 12 Aug 2007 18:10:15
GMT cluthz scribed:

>> Nope, can't be legally done. They'd shoot you as a spy, especially
>> if you're a Tory. One way around this restriction is you could pay a
>> U.S. citizen to hand-carry the program over for you. Said benefactor
>> will then stay in a London hotel for a few weeks until making the
>> transfer once the heat's off. It's a bit of a stretch, but you know
>> how spunky us Yanks are.
>> Perhaps I could even locate a volunteer if you're interested.
>>
> Thanks for the offer. I do have someone who could buy it for me
> thanks. It's just that I'm worried that I wont be entitled to updates
> or some other weird restriction will come into effect. You know the
> money saved would almost even pay for the flight.
>
> Or is it just easier for me to bite the bullet and frustratingly the
> full UK price.

Seriously, you shouldn't have a problem as long as you're not in a dod-
restricted country. I, personally, don't and never did see the need for
something like Dreamweaver because I preferred learning html "the hard
way" so to speak. It might have taken longer, but at least I knew what I
was doing when I was done. I can virtually guarantee you that I would not
be as good as I am now (-however good that is) had I earlier-on thrown
crutches into the learning curve.

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Re: Buying Dreamweaver in USA (I live in UK)

On 12 Aug, 14:56, "cluthz" wrote:

> So I want to know if it is worth me buying it from the US?

No, because it's not worth you buying it at all (FAQ around here and
in c.i.w.a.h - search)

> Will I have any difficulties.

You'll have no support or upgrade path. Bit like buying the UK edition
really.

Re: Buying Dreamweaver in USA (I live in UK)

Andy Dingley wrote:
> On 12 Aug, 14:56, "cluthz" wrote:
>
>> Will I have any difficulties.
>
> You'll have no support or upgrade path. Bit like buying the UK edition
> really.
>

Why would that be the case? Imagine the following scenario: I lived in
the U.S. for a few months, bought the lower-priced Adobe CS2 suite, and
moved back to the U.K., and want to upgrade now to the CS3-suite. How
could Adobe possibly find out, that I am using illegaly their licences?
What would be illegal in such a behaviour?

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Re: Buying Dreamweaver in USA (I live in UK)

I like Dreamweaver.
I am a traditional programmer and can do raw HTML, but I find DReamweaver
saves me time. Particualry for PHP editing which is what I do. I get to see
my pages while coding. I think it's great.

I've used someone elses old version (MX) for a while now. It has it's
shortcomings, but I prefer it to using a pure text editor.
I note the collapsable code in the new version looks great. I know of no
other package that lets me easily preview my pages and edit the raw code as
well as having good general HTML handling capabilities.

But do let me know if there is one.

Thanks

Re: Buying Dreamweaver in USA (I live in UK)

"cluthz" wrote in message
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>I like Dreamweaver.
> I am a traditional programmer and can do raw HTML, but I find DReamweaver
> [sic]
> saves me time. Particualry for PHP editing which is what I do. I get to
> see my pages while coding. I think it's great.

I am a traditional programmer (well, C# these days) and I can do raw HTML
[and CSS].

I have crimzon editor open right here on my middle screen (currently
overlayed with this editor window of course) with the raw source code to the
sites I am currently working on. Well, the raw site as in a couple of
includes to the required home grown CMS and the current "framework" for that
site.

I have a few Windows Explorers open (for heavy duty file manipulation and
FTP access to my hosts, as required) and a couple of other file type
thingies on my screen over there <--

I have a few browsers open on my third screen, over there --> and I do, at
the press of a refresh button, verify that what I have just stated in my
source actually works in these current *actual* browsers.

One of my other computers is pretending to be a web server down there V.

I see no reason to use such restrictive things as Dreamweaver or
FrontPage. They simply can not do the things I do with a
very simple copy/paste and the odd few keystrokes. And as for the "preview"
function of those things... Har har.

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Re: Buying Dreamweaver in USA (I live in UK)

Hmmm, Just googled crimzon editor

Looks OK actually. Might give it a go. Still probably will get Dreamweaver,
what can I say. I like it a lot. But I do currently use textpad as well for
certain macro features and a few other things.

crimzon editor looks good though.

Hope it does php well
Note I'm getting it from:
http://www.crimsoneditor.com/
(just in case I happened to have found a spyware version of the software or
something stupid like that).

Re: Buying Dreamweaver in USA (I live in UK)

On Aug 13, 8:33 am, "rf" wrote:
> I see no reason to use such restrictive things as Dreamweaver or
> FrontPage. They simply can not do the things I do with a
> very simple copy/paste and the odd few keystrokes. And as for the "preview"
> function of those things... Har har.

I find DW it to be a very powerful tool. I guess it is just a matter
of what works best for an individual.

Re: Buying Dreamweaver in USA (I live in UK)

"cluthz" wrote in message
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>
> crimzon editor looks good though.
>
> Hope it does php well

Yes. It does (if you mean the colour coding).

You can even make up you own.

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Re: Buying Dreamweaver in USA (I live in UK)

"Travis Newbury" wrote in message
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> On Aug 13, 8:33 am, "rf" wrote:
>> I see no reason to use such restrictive things as Dreamweaver or
>> FrontPage. They simply can not do the things I do with
>> a
>> very simple copy/paste and the odd few keystrokes. And as for the
>> "preview"
>> function of those things... Har har.
>
> I find DW it to be a very powerful tool. I guess it is just a matter
> of what works best for an individual.

True.

I too have fifteen tools in my toolbox. It's just that nowdays I use a
couple of simple knives and forks that do the job rather better than the
expensive swiss army knife that is blunt at one end and not heavy enough at
the other.

In any case, and I say again, DW simply *can not* reproduce what I do with
CE and a few browser instances and the odd FTP client.

For you, perhaps it might work but It is simply not designed for the work I
do.

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Re: Buying Dreamweaver in USA (I live in UK)

Travis Newbury wrote:
> On Aug 13, 8:33 am, "rf" wrote:
>> I see no reason to use such restrictive things as Dreamweaver or
>> FrontPage. They simply can not do the things I do with a
>> very simple copy/paste and the odd few keystrokes. And as for the "preview"
>> function of those things... Har har.
>
> I find DW it to be a very powerful tool. I guess it is just a matter
> of what works best for an individual.
>
code-wise ist DW too expensive and too heavy compared to something nice
and smooth like Notepad++.

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Re: Buying Dreamweaver in USA (I live in UK)

On 13 Aug, 10:39, Bernhard Sturm wrote:

> > You'll have no support or upgrade path. Bit like buying the UK edition
> > really.
>
> Why would that be the case?

Because UK vendors (major shrinkwrap vendors anyway) rarely regard a
US licence (even if that's itself legal) as qualifying for their
upgrade pricing on a new UK version.

That said, UK vendors are often far less generous anyway on upgrade
pricing for their "official" UK versions, compared to the
corresponding US vendor on US versions. Not to mention "pound per
dollar" pricing that puts a 100% price premium on UK versions of US
products.

Re: Buying Dreamweaver in USA (I live in UK)

cluthz wrote:
>
> crimzon editor looks good though.

Crimson Editor is indeed a great all-purpose tool (I use it myself), but
if you're looking for something geared more towards web authoring, take
a peek at WeBuilder.
http://www.blumentals.net/webuilder/

It's got some nice features, too.

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Re: Buying Dreamweaver in USA (I live in UK)

"cluthz" wrote:

>Hi there,
>
>OK I know this is an HTML group but maybe other UK residents have done the
>same. As you may know Dreamweaver in the US is half the price of the UK.
>
>So I want to know if it is worth me buying it from the US? Will I have any
>difficulties. The way I see it, it could be feasible that I purchased
>something in the US for my laptop and then moved to the UK right?
>
>Anyone else gone to the effort of doing this?
You _should_ buy it from a U.S. mail order house. Many years ago,
before the restrictive trade practices that are apparently still legal
in the U.K. were prohibited in Australia, I often purchased hardware
and software from the United States. On the only occasion I had a
problem I found that the U.S. consumer protection applied to me and I
received a both a refund of my money _and_ the undelivered goods. Once
the U.S. supplier sends you the product you are entitled to exactly
the same service that a U.S. purchaser would receive and the U.S.
Commercial Service at your nearest U.S. Embassy will help you get it.

If the U.S. supplier refuses to send you the product because they have
been intimidated by Adobe then you should complain to everyone you can
think of and download a trial version and a crack from the Internet.

The only practical problem that I can think of is that the U.S.
version might not include a British English spell checker. Perhaps
someone who has the U.S. version can comment.

Re: Buying Dreamweaver in USA (I live in UK)

Bernhard Sturm wrote:
> Travis Newbury wrote:

> code-wise ist DW too expensive and too heavy compared to something nice
> and smooth like Notepad++.

gvim

>
> cheers
> bernhard
>

Re: Buying Dreamweaver in USA (I live in UK)

"Bergamot" wrote in message
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> cluthz wrote:
>>
>> crimzon editor looks good though.
>
> Crimson Editor is indeed a great all-purpose tool (I use it myself), but
> if you're looking for something geared more towards web authoring, take
> a peek at WeBuilder.
> http://www.blumentals.net/webuilder/
>
> It's got some nice features, too.
>
Now I LIKE the look of that on first glance. Anything that gives me some
visual studio like features (last version I used was 6 but things have moved
on much more now I believe) then gimme gimme gimme.

I'm trying this one now.

Re: Buying Dreamweaver in USA (I live in UK)

"Bergamot" wrote in message
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> Crimson Editor is indeed a great all-purpose tool (I use it myself), but
> if you're looking for something geared more towards web authoring, take
> a peek at WeBuilder.
> http://www.blumentals.net/webuilder/

Oh my further investigation and htis could be fantastic and a snip at the
price. It has made me realise I need to get PHP installed locally (and
therefore the Windows version).

That did not go too smoothly as it asked me able Apache and this did not
seem to work, but wow, having debugging in my PHP without having to upload
everything first. This could be a real time saver.

I had asked about apps like this before but this could be EXACTLY what I was
looking for.

Hopefully the fact that I'm using an old PHP version 4 and old version of
Mysql (3) on the public server wont cause too many problems. I've never used
PHP5 but hopefully it is backwards compatible.

Looks GREAT (on inital glance).

Re: Buying Dreamweaver in USA (I live in UK)

"Bergamot" wrote in message
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> cluthz wrote:
>>
>> crimzon editor looks good though.
>
> Crimson Editor is indeed a great all-purpose tool (I use it myself), but
> if you're looking for something geared more towards web authoring, take
> a peek at WeBuilder.
> http://www.blumentals.net/webuilder/
>
> It's got some nice features, too.

As said I like it so far. So I'm also going to ask about what I've been
looking for a while. A nice Gui based source code management system. I used
to use a command line one years ago and I Want to again. (therefore you
check code out, put it back in, you can easily revert back to old editions
of the code).

I want it to be easy to use but track the code changes I make with the
option to allow multiple users to use it and track who changed what.

Any more good suggestions?

Re: Buying Dreamweaver in USA (I live in UK)

"Bergamot" wrote in message
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> cluthz wrote:
>>
>> crimzon editor looks good though.
>
> Crimson Editor is indeed a great all-purpose tool (I use it myself), but
> if you're looking for something geared more towards web authoring, take
> a peek at WeBuilder.
> http://www.blumentals.net/webuilder/
>
> It's got some nice features, too.

Ahhh Man!. So far, so FU!""%%&$%ING excellent. I just discovered the
function browsing feature. I LIKE that.

Re: Buying Dreamweaver in USA (I live in UK)

"Bergamot" wrote in message
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> cluthz wrote:
>>
>> crimzon editor looks good though.
>
> Crimson Editor is indeed a great all-purpose tool (I use it myself), but
> if you're looking for something geared more towards web authoring, take
> a peek at WeBuilder.
> http://www.blumentals.net/webuilder/
>
> It's got some nice features, too.

From a brief look it does not appear that I can have the several included
files open while previewing only the including file. In fact, when I opened
another file the preview window scarpered off somewhere. Ah, I found it. It
lives on the index.php files tab. I can't edit, say, the CSS and watch what
happens without tabbing back to index.php.

I'll stick to CE and a sprinkling of browsers methings. Besides, CE is a tad
cheaper, given the current exchange rate.

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Re: Buying Dreamweaver in USA (I live in UK)

On Aug 13, 9:43 am, Bernhard Sturm wrote:
> > I find DW it to be a very powerful tool. I guess it is just a matter
> > of what works best for an individual.
> code-wise ist DW too expensive and too heavy compared to something nice
> and smooth like Notepad++.

In your opinion you mean. I think it is priced just fine, and while
Notepad++ may do it for you, it leaves me with an empty feeling.

Re: Buying Dreamweaver in USA (I live in UK)

On Aug 13, 1:28 pm, David Segall wrote:
> If the U.S. supplier refuses to send you the product because they have
> been intimidated by Adobe then you should complain to everyone you can
> think of and download a trial version and a crack from the Internet.

Yea... that's good advice... I remember from my international law
class, Atricle 213.A-11 paragraph 12 states (and I quote) "If you can
not afford your countries legal version, and you can not find a vendor
in the US that will ship the product to you, then you are free to
simply steal it..."

> The only practical problem that I can think of is that the U.S.
> version might not include a British English spell checker. Perhaps
> someone who has the U.S. version can comment.

Well if the damn Brits would learn to spell correctly...

Re: Buying Dreamweaver in USA (I live in UK)

In article
<1187172377.595361.287160@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>,
Travis Newbury wrote:

> In your opinion you mean.

No, he means it is written on a stone tablet sent down by God
Almighty. Whatever made you think it was a mere opinion?


> I think it is priced just fine, and while
> Notepad++ may do it for you, it leaves me with an empty feeling.

But then, you often have those feelings don't you Travis. Perhaps
you should discuss it with Blinkey and Boji, and while you are at
it, hell, why not Roger and Daffy too?

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"Travis Newbury" wrote in message
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> Well if the damn Brits would learn to spell correctly...

And the many many other English speaking countries in the world?

It's only the bloody Yanks that bastardise the Queens English.

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Re: Buying Dreamweaver in USA (I live in UK)

On Aug 15, 6:36 am, dorayme wrote:
> > I think it is priced just fine, and while
> > Notepad++ may do it for you, it leaves me with an empty feeling.
> But then, you often have those feelings don't you Travis. Perhaps
> you should discuss it with Blinkey and Boji, and while you are at
> it, hell, why not Roger and Daffy too?

Na, The drugs I am taking keeps me on a level keel...

Re: Buying Dreamweaver in USA (I live in UK)

On Aug 15, 6:53 am, "rf" wrote:
> > Well if the damn Brits would learn to spell correctly...
> And the many many other English speaking countries in the world?
> It's only the bloody Yanks that bastardise the Queens English.

Well hell we own everything anyway, we might as well dictate what
correct English is too...

Re: Buying Dreamweaver in USA (I live in UK)

Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Wed, 15 Aug 2007 11:41:30 GMT
Travis Newbury scribed:

> On Aug 15, 6:36 am, dorayme wrote:
>> > I think it is priced just fine, and while
>> > Notepad++ may do it for you, it leaves me with an empty feeling.
>> But then, you often have those feelings don't you Travis. Perhaps
>> you should discuss it with Blinkey and Boji, and while you are at
>> it, hell, why not Roger and Daffy too?
>
> Na, The drugs I am taking keeps me on a level keel...

Oh oh, better watch it, Travis. You're being grouped with "the wrong side
of the tracks" crowd.

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Re: Buying Dreamweaver in USA (I live in UK)

Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Wed, 15 Aug 2007 10:53:23 GMT
rf scribed:

>
> "Travis Newbury" wrote in message
> news:1187172901.598946.188890@50g2000hsm.googlegroups.com...
>
>> Well if the damn Brits would learn to spell correctly...
>
> And the many many other English speaking countries in the world?
>
> It's only the bloody Yanks that bastardise the Queens English.

Oh, give me a break! Who is it that half the time sounds like they have a
mouthful of mashed potatoes and the other half too-tight underwear? It
takes an American to speak proper English, bud.

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Re: Buying Dreamweaver in USA (I live in UK)

On 2007-08-15, Neredbojias wrote:

[...]

> Oh, give me a break! Who is it that half the time sounds like they have a
> mouthful of mashed potatoes and the other half too-tight underwear? It
> takes an American to speak proper English, bud.

Hmmm.... might be a good time to bring up that 'Merkin' thing again...

Andrew

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Re: Buying Dreamweaver in USA (I live in UK)

dorayme wrote:
> In article
> <1187172377.595361.287160@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>,
> Travis Newbury wrote:
>
>> In your opinion you mean.
>
> No, he means it is written on a stone tablet sent down by God
> Almighty. Whatever made you think it was a mere opinion?

LOL I thought the same :-) It's funny how people strive for a discussion
by opening a thread, but then refuse to accept the fact that other
posters are only posting their personal opinions.

cheers
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Re: Buying Dreamweaver in USA (I live in UK)

"Travis Newbury" wrote in message
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> On Aug 15, 6:53 am, "rf" wrote:
>> > Well if the damn Brits would learn to spell correctly...
>> And the many many other English speaking countries in the world?
>> It's only the bloody Yanks that bastardise the Queens English.
>
> Well hell we own everything anyway, we might as well dictate what
> correct English is too...

s/English/American/

No, sir, you do not own everything. Google the demographics. You are only
4.5% of the planet. Almost beneath notice. And arrogant bastards to boot
(well some of you), but this is drifting OT.

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Re: Buying Dreamweaver in USA (I live in UK)

On Aug 15, 8:19 am, "rf" wrote:
> No, sir, you do not own everything. Google the demographics. You are only
> 4.5% of the planet. Almost beneath notice. And arrogant bastards to boot
> (well some of you), but this is drifting OT.

Na, we own google, so we just have the demographics say we don't own
everything so we can keep the rest of the world under our control
without you knowing it...

Re: Buying Dreamweaver in USA (I live in UK)

In article
<1187178090.964905.100300@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com>,
Travis Newbury wrote:

> On Aug 15, 6:36 am, dorayme wrote:
> > > I think it is priced just fine, and while
> > > Notepad++ may do it for you, it leaves me with an empty feeling.
> > But then, you often have those feelings don't you Travis. Perhaps
> > you should discuss it with Blinkey and Boji, and while you are at
> > it, hell, why not Roger and Daffy too?
>
> Na, The drugs I am taking keeps me on a level keel...

You mean of course the ones that make you regret seeing anything
the least bit schmaltzy for a couple of minutes, the least bit
unprofessional looking on the surface, the ones which make you
vote for a complete and utter moron who has managed to take the
lives of now hundreds of thousands of innocent souls, the ones
that make you fail to understand that there is more than
slickness to heart, that heart can be contained in a waltzing
star, the ones that makes you about as opposite in all sentiment
to the attitude of even one of the sides of one of those waltzing
stars, the drugs that blind you to some nice phrasing in a song?
Those drugs you mean? Level? Is this where you take both sides of
a contradiction and embrace them equally in unconsciousness like
happily promoting free markets when it suits you and not when it
does not, on some drug whim? What drug is that Travis?

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Re: Buying Dreamweaver in USA (I live in UK)

In article ,
"rf" wrote:

> And arrogant bastards to boot
> (well some of you), but this is drifting OT.

Yank talk and accents and expressions and all are a great
invention for the world. They have enriched the language in step
with their dynamic history.

(btw to the btw: I was interested to see how a Cockney might do
American the other day: Sir Michael Caine in The Weatherman).

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Re: Buying Dreamweaver in USA (I live in UK)

Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Wed, 15 Aug 2007 12:03:15
GMT andrew scribed:

>> Oh, give me a break! Who is it that half the time sounds like they
>> have a mouthful of mashed potatoes and the other half too-tight
>> underwear? It takes an American to speak proper English, bud.
>
> Hmmm.... might be a good time to bring up that 'Merkin' thing again...
>
> Andrew




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Re: Buying Dreamweaver in USA (I live in UK)

"dorayme" wrote in message
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> In article ,
> "rf" wrote:
>
>> And arrogant bastards to boot
>> (well some of you), but this is drifting OT.
>
> Yank talk and accents and expressions and all are a great
> invention for the world. They have enriched the language in step
> with their dynamic history.
>
> (btw to the btw: I was interested to see how a Cockney might do
> American the other day: Sir Michael Caine in The Weatherman).
>
> --
> dorayme

"What would you do, if I told you, this gun is loawwwded" :))))

Re: Buying Dreamweaver in USA (I live in UK)

"rf" wrote in message
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>
> "Travis Newbury" wrote in message
> news:1187172901.598946.188890@50g2000hsm.googlegroups.com...
>
>> Well if the damn Brits would learn to spell correctly...
>
> And the many many other English speaking countries in the world?
>
> It's only the bloody Yanks that bastardise the Queens English.
>
> --
> Richard.
>
>

....and scousers, and geordies, and cornish, and cockneys, and yorkies, and
brummies etc. etc. etc... *yawn* :)))

Re: Buying Dreamweaver in USA (I live in UK)

On Aug 15, 6:08 pm, dorayme wrote:
> > Na, The drugs I am taking keeps me on a level keel...
> You mean of course the ones that make you regret seeing anything
> the least bit schmaltzy for a couple of minutes, the least bit
> unprofessional looking on the surface, the ones which make you
> vote for a complete and utter moron who has managed to take the
> lives of now hundreds of thousands of innocent souls, the ones
> that make you fail to understand that there is more than
> slickness to heart, that heart can be contained in a waltzing
> star, the ones that makes you about as opposite in all sentiment
> to the attitude of even one of the sides of one of those waltzing
> stars, the drugs that blind you to some nice phrasing in a song?
> Those drugs you mean? Level? Is this where you take both sides of
> a contradiction and embrace them equally in unconsciousness like
> happily promoting free markets when it suits you and not when it
> does not, on some drug whim? What drug is that Travis?

Don't know what drug you are taking but I was referring to pot

Re: Buying Dreamweaver in USA (I live in UK)

In article
<1187274877.849282.182800@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>,
Travis Newbury wrote:

> > > Na, The drugs I am taking keeps me on a level keel...

> On Aug 15, 6:08 pm, dorayme wrote:

> > You mean of course the ones that make you regret seeing anything
> > the least bit schmaltzy for a couple of minutes, the least bit
> > unprofessional looking on the surface,
> > What drug is that Travis?
>
> Don't know what drug you are taking but I was referring to pot

If I remember, it induces only an illusion of whatever level you
are on. Not much point thinking you are on the level at your age
when you are standing on the very edge of a precipice. I think
you should take the advice of the wife of an undoubted hero of
yours, Nancy Reagan: just say no.

Perhaps you need it for your work in Flash?

About my drugs, I take a 1/4 of an aspirin with my muesli every
morning.

--
dorayme

Re: Buying Dreamweaver in USA (I live in UK)

On Aug 16, 6:08 pm, dorayme wrote:
> > Don't know what drug you are taking but I was referring to pot
> If I remember, it induces only an illusion of whatever level you
> are on. Not much point thinking you are on the level at your age
> when you are standing on the very edge of a precipice. I think
> you should take the advice of the wife of an undoubted hero of
> yours, Nancy Reagan: just say no.
> Perhaps you need it for your work in Flash?

Actually I say I take it to treat my Glaucoma, but the soothing side
effects are very nice in the recording studio too...

> About my drugs, I take a 1/4 of an aspirin with my muesli every
> morning.

Just passed my second Kidney stone (one from each Kidney) on Monday.
Now the drugs they gave me at the hospital, THEY were some mighty good
drugs. The Hospitals have all the best drugs!

Re: Buying Dreamweaver in USA (I live in UK)

On 2007-08-16, dorayme wrote:

[...]

> About my drugs, I take a 1/4 of an aspirin with my muesli every
> morning.

If you are taking 1/4 of a soluble 300mg aspirin you are only getting
75mg per day and also risking your gastric mucosa. You should have a
word to your gp about prescribing 100mg coated aspirin instead.

Andrew (wearing my other hat!)
--
'Name him not!' said Gandalf, and for a moment
it seemed that a look of pain passed over his face,
and he sat silent, looking old as death.

Re: Buying Dreamweaver in USA (I live in UK)

Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Fri, 17 Aug 2007 09:52:21 GMT
Travis Newbury scribed:

> On Aug 16, 6:08 pm, dorayme wrote:
>> > Don't know what drug you are taking but I was referring to pot
>> If I remember, it induces only an illusion of whatever level you
>> are on. Not much point thinking you are on the level at your age
>> when you are standing on the very edge of a precipice. I think
>> you should take the advice of the wife of an undoubted hero of
>> yours, Nancy Reagan: just say no.
>> Perhaps you need it for your work in Flash?
>
> Actually I say I take it to treat my Glaucoma, but the soothing side
> effects are very nice in the recording studio too...
>
>> About my drugs, I take a 1/4 of an aspirin with my muesli every
>> morning.
>
> Just passed my second Kidney stone (one from each Kidney) on Monday.
> Now the drugs they gave me at the hospital, THEY were some mighty good
> drugs. The Hospitals have all the best drugs!

You need to drink more WATER! -Just plain water. At least 8 12@ glasses
per day, although I know some people that drink 8 gallons a day! (Well, so
they say.)

--
Neredbojias
Half lies are worth twice as much as whole lies.

Re: Buying Dreamweaver in USA (I live in UK)

On Aug 17, 7:09 am, Neredbojias wrote:
> > Just passed my second Kidney stone (one from each Kidney) on Monday.
> > Now the drugs they gave me at the hospital, THEY were some mighty good
> > drugs. The Hospitals have all the best drugs!
> You need to drink more WATER! -Just plain water. At least 8 12@ glasses
> per day, although I know some people that drink 8 gallons a day! (Well, so
> they say.)

You are preaching to the choir (now)... With my first stone (2mm) I
was in the hospital 20 minutes after the attack started, and drugged
up 5 minutes later. With this second stone (2.5mm), I was 2 hours
away from the hospital and by the time I got there I was praying that
the Good Lord would just take me home... I think crucifixion would be
easier than passing a stone with no drugs...

The only people that can relate are those that have passed kidney
stones....

Re: Buying Dreamweaver in USA (I live in UK)

In article ,
andrew wrote:

> On 2007-08-16, dorayme wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> > About my drugs, I take a 1/4 of an aspirin with my muesli every
> > morning.
>
> If you are taking 1/4 of a soluble 300mg aspirin you are only getting
> 75mg per day and also risking your gastric mucosa. You should have a
> word to your gp about prescribing 100mg coated aspirin instead.
>

I figured that more than 75mg would be a menace to my mucosa
(have I got mucosa? I first thought it was martian stainless
steel but here on earth I am not 100% sure now). And given with
food, crushed up (note this, Andrew, crushed or dissolved,
important that it does not go down to sit somewhere and be
concentrated for a while) not much of a risk. In other words,
this is my enteric coating substitute. On the other hand, so
little is likely not doing much. However on the third hand, not
sure I need it, I hate going to see doctors, spending money
unnecessarily, wary of any aspirin for me (though it is quite a
wonder drug in general)

Btw, don't think you need a prescription for these.

--
dorayme

Re: Buying Dreamweaver in USA (I live in UK)

In article
,
Neredbojias wrote:

> You need to drink more WATER! -Just plain water. At least 8 12@ glasses
> per day, although I know some people that drink 8 gallons a day! (Well, so
> they say.)

8 Gallons! You would drown.

--
dorayme

Re: Buying Dreamweaver in USA (I live in UK)

In article
<1187349648.015404.141500@o80g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,
Travis Newbury wrote:

> I think crucifixion would be
> easier than passing a stone with no drugs...
>
> The only people that can relate are those that have passed kidney
> stones....

psst... interested in a damn good kidney for a reasonable price?

--
dorayme

Re: Buying Dreamweaver in USA (I live in UK)

Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Fri, 17 Aug 2007 11:20:48
GMT Travis Newbury scribed:

>> > Just passed my second Kidney stone (one from each Kidney) on
>> > Monday. Now the drugs they gave me at the hospital, THEY were some
>> > mighty good drugs. The Hospitals have all the best drugs!
>> You need to drink more WATER! -Just plain water. At least 8 12@
>> glasses per day, although I know some people that drink 8 gallons a
>> day! (Well, so they say.)
>
> You are preaching to the choir (now)... With my first stone (2mm) I
> was in the hospital 20 minutes after the attack started, and drugged
> up 5 minutes later. With this second stone (2.5mm), I was 2 hours
> away from the hospital and by the time I got there I was praying that
> the Good Lord would just take me home... I think crucifixion would be
> easier than passing a stone with no drugs...

Fortunately, I've not had the pleasure, but am intimately acquainted with a
few who have. This one person in particular would never drink water and
used to "hold it" before going to the bathroom. That has changed somewhat
after her second stone, though.

> The only people that can relate are those that have passed kidney
> stones....

I don't know about that. Getting your wienie caught in a closing door
isn't exactly ecstasy, either.

--
Neredbojias
Half lies are worth twice as much as whole lies.

Re: Buying Dreamweaver in USA (I live in UK)

Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Fri, 17 Aug 2007 22:25:42
GMT dorayme scribed:

> In article
> ,
> Neredbojias wrote:
>
>> You need to drink more WATER! -Just plain water. At least 8 12@
>> glasses per day, although I know some people that drink 8 gallons a
>> day! (Well, so they say.)
>
> 8 Gallons! You would drown.

Yes, people tend to exaggerate. However, this one guy I knew a while ago
was _always_ drinking glasses of water at home and drinking it from a 2-
gallon thermos at work. I wouldn't be surprised if he averaged 3-4 gallons
a day, at least. (And, as you might expect, he used the john a lot.)

--
Neredbojias
Half lies are worth twice as much as whole lies.

Re: Buying Dreamweaver in USA (I live in UK)

On Aug 17, 10:31 pm, Neredbojias wrote:
> I don't know about that. Getting your wienie caught in a closing door
> isn't exactly ecstasy, either.

Ok, I will agree with you there...