A delivery failure: why?
am 15.08.2007 13:30:25 von Fangorn
Hi.
I sent a message to 4 people using the CC feature. I received the
error message pasted below: what does it mean? Did any of the
recipients receive my message or none of them? Is there any
possibility to know the reasons why the delivery failed?
Many thanks
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Hi. This is the qmail-send program at yahoo.com.
I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following
addresses.
This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.
:
213.123.20.92 does not like recipient.
Remote host said: 550 ... No such mailbox
Giving up on 213.123.20.92.
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From: fangorn
Subject: [***]
To: YYY@YYY.com
Cc: XXX@XXX.com, ZZZ@ZZZ.com, KKK@KKK.co.uk
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Re: A delivery failure: why?
am 15.08.2007 13:47:50 von Peter
Fangorn writes:
> Remote host said: 550 ... No such mailbox
that particular recipient apparently did not exist.
--
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delilah spamd[29949]: 85.152.224.147: disconnected after 42673 seconds.
Re: A delivery failure: why?
am 16.08.2007 14:24:32 von Fangorn
On 15 Aug, 12:47, Peter N. M. Hansteen wrote:
> Remote host said: 550 ... No such mailbox
>
> that particular recipient apparently did not exist.
>
Above that, the message also says:
:
213.123.20.92 does not like recipient.
This is my main concern: theorically (grammatically, more than
technically) the server should consider as recipient not the sender
but the addressee of my message: in this case the server would
consider 'unpleasant' one of its guests. I would not know why... The
vice versa, which would have much more sense to me, would means that I
am unwelcomed, that is XXX@XXX.com would have instructed the server to
reject any message coming from me, and that the server is not
programmed to be explicit in giving explanations (the whole response
might be instead purposely misleading): I just would like to be sure
that this is not the case.
What about the other recipients? The response of the server seems to
concern only XXX@XXX.com: shall I suppose that the others did receive
my email?
Re: A delivery failure: why?
am 16.08.2007 23:41:13 von Sam
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Fangorn writes:
> On 15 Aug, 12:47, Peter N. M. Hansteen wrote:
>
>> Remote host said: 550 ... No such mailbox
>>
>> that particular recipient apparently did not exist.
>>
>
> Above that, the message also says:
>
> :
> 213.123.20.92 does not like recipient.
>
> This is my main concern: theorically (grammatically, more than
> technically) the server should consider as recipient not the sender
> but the addressee of my message:
And what exactly leads you to believe that it doesn't?
> in this case the server would
> consider 'unpleasant' one of its guests. I would not know why... The
> vice versa, which would have much more sense to me, would means that I
> am unwelcomed, that is XXX@XXX.com would have instructed the server to
> reject any message coming from me,
If, for some reason, I decided that I did not want mail from you, then you
would get an error message that indicates that, for all practical means, the
recipient address does not exist. It does not exist, as far as you are
concerned. But for someone else, it might be a different story.
> and that the server is not
> programmed to be explicit in giving explanations (the whole response
> might be instead purposely misleading): I just would like to be sure
> that this is not the case.
As far as anyone is concerned, the only thing that ultimately matters is
that the recipient's server refused to accept the message. Why exactly it
did not accept it, whether the recipient did not exist, or you're unwelcome,
for whatever reason, is completely and totally irrelevant. The message was
undeliverable. The end.
> What about the other recipients? The response of the server seems to
> concern only XXX@XXX.com: shall I suppose that the others did receive
> my email?
Yes, you can, presuming you do not receive another non-delivery report, for
another recipient of the same message, tomorrow, next week, or next year.
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Re: A delivery failure: why?
am 25.08.2007 07:09:32 von Fangorn
On 16 Aug, 22:41, Sam wrote:
> [cut]
>
> If, for some reason, I decided that I did not want mail from you, then you
> would get an error message that indicates that, for all practical means, the
> recipient address does not exist. It does not exist, as far as you are
> concerned. But for someone else, it might be a different story.
>
> [cut]
>
> As far as anyone is concerned, the only thing that ultimately matters is
> that the recipient's server refused to accept the message. Why exactly it
> did not accept it, whether the recipient did not exist, or you're unwelcome,
> for whatever reason, is completely and totally irrelevant. The message was
> undeliverable. The end.
>
Well, this does make much more sense than inventing an error message
for all the possible id to reject.
I would do that, it is better than giving explanations
> > What about the other recipients? The response of the server seems to
> > concern only X...@XXX.com: shall I suppose that the others did receive
> > my email?
>
> Yes, you can, presuming you do not receive another non-delivery report, for
> another recipient of the same message, tomorrow, next week, or next year.
>
A year! What a really slow server would that be!
Thank you