pls no plong: what FW for w98se?

Please do not flame or plong me, I know security and w98 is quite
different things.

But
for reasons I am in process to configure one w98se system as a packup
/replacement for a still happy running one which was set up sometimes
in 1999 or so. Sorry but again it is needed, why this is other matter.

In times when I used to assemble such PC in siries and set it up, we
used to install on all units not operating in some LAN sw firewalls,
that time everybody seemed to be happy with Zone alarm, since it was
configurable also for people who had no idea abt it, probably some
fancy settings could be done, but were then not accessible for average
user. Also the installation was quite simple, volume of the install
file abt 2mb.

The systems where this was installed this way are mostly not on LAN
but with dialup in internet since they are not on one place, are
mobile laptops.

I tried to ask something abt ZA in the german NG for this subject, but
was plongt and flamed as being stupid, useless and criminal, since
only this way one can ask questions abt ZA apparently.
I have no idea, but years ago, this seemd to be the favorite software
FW for such application, but well times do change.
First I had a look, the recent ZA is somehow large file and I was told
it is too bugy.

But OK , for a simple mind as me, if it is so simple configurable as
the earlier versions?
In fact if I should find such old version, well yes it will not do any
reasonable job on current OS, but on the old dos based w98 it still
could work?

Or is there other idea today? Some people say without FW it is better
then with a FW, well can not understand it completely, but is this
true?

So what is the general approach when setting up w98se today and it
should work on internet mainly via dial up, occassionaly via some
LAN.?
Is ZA today really such a scrap?
Any other easy configurable FW for that purpose? (w98se!)


Thank in advance
sorry for the posibely unususal request

Re: pls no plong: what FW for w98se?

Otto,

The last ZAPro version that worked well on my old 98SE were the 4x and 5x
versions. The 6x and 7x versions do not support 98SE. Here is a link to
the ZA History page.


http://download.zonelabs.com/bin/free/information/zap/releas eHistory.html#5.5.094.000

Some of the 4x and 5x versions are still available for download.(For Free).
There is a ZoneLabe User Forum where you can do a search, or ask questions
of your own. (after logging in).

http://forums.zonelabs.com/zonelabs

Good luck.

charlie R (Watch out for the flames)


"Otto Sykora" wrote in message
news:tm8rc3t0qb5jcbm7flaebp0grvk36rji2c@4ax.com...
> Please do not flame or plong me, I know security and w98 is quite
> different things.
>
> But
> for reasons I am in process to configure one w98se system as a packup
> /replacement for a still happy running one which was set up sometimes
> in 1999 or so. Sorry but again it is needed, why this is other matter.
>
> In times when I used to assemble such PC in siries and set it up, we
> used to install on all units not operating in some LAN sw firewalls,
> that time everybody seemed to be happy with Zone alarm, since it was
> configurable also for people who had no idea abt it, probably some
> fancy settings could be done, but were then not accessible for average
> user. Also the installation was quite simple, volume of the install
> file abt 2mb.
>
> The systems where this was installed this way are mostly not on LAN
> but with dialup in internet since they are not on one place, are
> mobile laptops.
>
> I tried to ask something abt ZA in the german NG for this subject, but
> was plongt and flamed as being stupid, useless and criminal, since
> only this way one can ask questions abt ZA apparently.
> I have no idea, but years ago, this seemd to be the favorite software
> FW for such application, but well times do change.
> First I had a look, the recent ZA is somehow large file and I was told
> it is too bugy.
>
> But OK , for a simple mind as me, if it is so simple configurable as
> the earlier versions?
> In fact if I should find such old version, well yes it will not do any
> reasonable job on current OS, but on the old dos based w98 it still
> could work?
>
> Or is there other idea today? Some people say without FW it is better
> then with a FW, well can not understand it completely, but is this
> true?
>
> So what is the general approach when setting up w98se today and it
> should work on internet mainly via dial up, occassionaly via some
> LAN.?
> Is ZA today really such a scrap?
> Any other easy configurable FW for that purpose? (w98se!)
>
>
> Thank in advance
> sorry for the posibely unususal request
>
>
>

Re: pls no plong: what FW for w98se?

charlieR wrote:

> Otto,
>
> The last ZAPro version that worked well on my old 98SE were the 4x and 5x
> versions. The 6x and 7x versions do not support 98SE. Here is a link to
> the ZA History page.
>
>
> http://download.zonelabs.com/bin/free/information/zap/releas eHistory.html#5.5.094.000
>
> Some of the 4x and 5x versions are still available for download.(For Free).
> There is a ZoneLabe User Forum where you can do a search, or ask questions
> of your own. (after logging in).
>
> http://forums.zonelabs.com/zonelabs
>
> Good luck.
>
> charlie R (Watch out for the flames)


Yes, but only to you.

You're suggesting him to install an old version of a software with a lot of
known unfixed vulnerabilities.

No wonder, you're abusing Outlook Express as a newsreader, so obviously you
have no clue about security.

And then you're bottom-fullquoting all the way.


Hm... can't you find any better way to make a total fool out of yourself?

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Re: pls no plong: what FW for w98se?

Casey wrote:


> In the firewall comparisons I have read, Jetico v1 (for Win98)
> has excellent rateings. It has an one of the highest ratings
> for controlling outbound connection 'Leakage'.


Hm... doesn't "leakage" mean that it is on a list of shitty firewall
products list? So it's the best of the worthless?

> Probably one of the easist firewalls to setup is Sygate.


Maybe I really misread the group name... isn't this comp.*security*.*firewalls*?

> I am presently running v5.5 b 2710 on my Win98 and have been
> for some years.


Fine, but why would anyone want to do so?

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Re: pls no plong: what FW for w98se?

Casey wrote:

> In article <5j6ef5F3oha31U1@mid.dfncis.de>, seppi@seppig.de says...
>> Casey wrote:
>>
>>
>>> In the firewall comparisons I have read, Jetico v1 (for Win98)
>>> has excellent rateings. It has an one of the highest ratings
>>> for controlling outbound connection 'Leakage'.
>>
>> Hm... doesn't "leakage" mean that it is on a list of shitty firewall
>> products list? So it's the best of the worthless?
> Bad Wording. "Highest Ratings" should be "Best Ratings"

Why should this matter? Just being present on such a list is a K.O. criteria.

Re: pls no plong: what FW for w98se?

>Good luck.
>
>charlie R (Watch out for the flames)
>


thanks charlie, expectd still some flames, will cope with it

Re: pls no plong: what FW for w98se?

>In the firewall comparisons I have read, Jetico v1 (for Win98)
>has excellent rateings. It has an one of the highest ratings
>for controlling outbound connection 'Leakage'. It will take
>some learning to set it up.
>http://www.jetico.com/jpfirewall.htm
>Probably one of the easist firewalls to setup is Sygate.
>I am presently running v5.5 b 2710 on my Win98 and have been
>for some years.
>http://www.savefile.com/projects/1045215

looks fine, will check that one out as well. have heard of the jetico
one allready, but have to fnd the version which will run on w98

Re: pls no plong: what FW for w98se?

Ok Casay,

the jetico one looks fine, even the 'reduced' version for w98 seesm to
work.
Hope it is not too complex for config, since as non expert I have to
work myself into it slowly.

But thanks, this looks like a useful compromise.

Re: pls no plong: what FW for w98se?

Otto Sykora wrote:
[Windows 98]
> In times when I used to assemble such PC in siries and set it up, we
> used to install on all units not operating in some LAN sw firewalls,
> that time everybody seemed to be happy with Zone alarm, since it was
> configurable also for people who had no idea abt it, probably some
> fancy settings could be done, but were then not accessible for average
> user. Also the installation was quite simple, volume of the install
> file abt 2mb.

Fortunately, you don't need ZoneAlarm at all. Just don't use it.

Yours,
VB.
--
"Es muss darauf geachtet werden, dass das Grundgesetz nicht mit Methoden
geschützt wird, die seinem Ziel und seinem Geist zuwider sind."

Gustav Heinemann, "Freimütige Kritik und demokratischer Rechtsstaat"

Re: pls no plong: what FW for w98se?

Casey wrote:
> In the firewall comparisons I have read, Jetico v1 (for Win98)
> has excellent rateings.

Why should one want to filter network connections, if one could just
stop offering network services?

> for controlling outbound connection 'Leakage'.

This does not work at all, and can never work with Windows 98. By
concept.

Yours,
VB.
--
"Es muss darauf geachtet werden, dass das Grundgesetz nicht mit Methoden
geschützt wird, die seinem Ziel und seinem Geist zuwider sind."

Gustav Heinemann, "Freimütige Kritik und demokratischer Rechtsstaat"

Re: pls no plong: what FW for w98se?

Volker Birk wrote:
> Otto Sykora wrote:
> [Windows 98]
>> In times when I used to assemble such PC in siries and set it up, we
>> used to install on all units not operating in some LAN sw firewalls,
>> that time everybody seemed to be happy with Zone alarm, since it was
>> configurable also for people who had no idea abt it, probably some
>> fancy settings could be done, but were then not accessible for
>> average user. Also the installation was quite simple, volume of the
>> install file abt 2mb.
>
> Fortunately, you don't need ZoneAlarm at all. Just don't use it.

He's already been told that several times in dcsf and dcsv, where he
asked the exact same question. Just killfile the idiot.

cu
59cobalt
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