Hi
I would like to learn PHP and I know we are at version 5. A friend
let me use 2 of his books but they cover PHP 4. Is that ok for
starting to learn the language? Or should I go straight with a PHP 5
book ?
Thanks a lot
Patrick
varois83 wrote:
> Hi
>
> I would like to learn PHP and I know we are at version 5. A friend
> let me use 2 of his books but they cover PHP 4. Is that ok for
> starting to learn the language? Or should I go straight with a PHP 5
> book ?
>
> Thanks a lot
>
> Patrick
>
I'd recommend going straight for a PHP 5 book. While virtually
everything in PHP4 works in PHP5, it's better to learn the new features
such as better OO support available in PHP5.
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varois83 wrote:
> Hi
>
> I would like to learn PHP and I know we are at version 5. A friend
> let me use 2 of his books but they cover PHP 4. Is that ok for
> starting to learn the language? Or should I go straight with a PHP 5
> book ?
>
> Thanks a lot
>
> Patrick
>
Hi
Not really,
there are significant differences in PHP5 compared to 4, especially the
OOP class use, but also differences between mysql and mysqli are not
shown in a PHP4 book, simply as mysqli has only been introduced with PHP5.
Achim
AchimR wrote:
> varois83 wrote:
>> Hi
>>
>> I would like to learn PHP and I know we are at version 5. A friend
>> let me use 2 of his books but they cover PHP 4. Is that ok for
>> starting to learn the language? Or should I go straight with a PHP 5
>> book ?
>>
>> Thanks a lot
>>
>> Patrick
>>
> Hi
>
> Not really,
>
> there are significant differences in PHP5 compared to 4, especially the
> OOP class use, but also differences between mysql and mysqli are not
> shown in a PHP4 book, simply as mysqli has only been introduced with PHP5.
>
> Achim
mysqli was introduced in PHP 4.1.
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varois83 wrote:
> Hi
>
> I would like to learn PHP and I know we are at version 5. A friend
> let me use 2 of his books but they cover PHP 4. Is that ok for
> starting to learn the language? Or should I go straight with a PHP 5
> book ?
That's what I did - and it worked for me.
I've been on PHP4 since before the turn of the century.
Finally I switched IPP's and my new provider lets me toggle between PHP4
and PHP5 through a radio button on an HTML form. I finally made that
change about a week ago, even though PHP5's been around for a long time.
Best yet - all of my old PHP4 stuff still works, and what I learned
about the older version remains useful in the newer version.
The only learning curve I'm finding is that there's a whole bunch of new
stuff that you can do with classes and objects that you couldn't do
before.
On Mon, 03 Sep 2007 17:38:45 -0400, Jerry Stuckle
wrote:
>>mysqli has only been introduced with PHP5.
>
>mysqli was introduced in PHP 4.1.
No it wasn't.
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Jerry Stuckle wrote:
> AchimR wrote:
>> varois83 wrote:
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> I would like to learn PHP and I know we are at version 5. A friend
>>> let me use 2 of his books but they cover PHP 4. Is that ok for
>>> starting to learn the language? Or should I go straight with a PHP 5
>>> book ?
>>>
>>> Thanks a lot
>>>
>>> Patrick
>>>
>> Hi
>>
>> Not really,
>>
>> there are significant differences in PHP5 compared to 4, especially
>> the OOP class use, but also differences between mysql and mysqli are
>> not shown in a PHP4 book, simply as mysqli has only been introduced
>> with PHP5.
>>
>> Achim
>
> mysqli was introduced in PHP 4.1.
>
mysqli is a PHP5 introduction.
you might've confused it with mySQL 4.1, as mysqli was designed to work
with more functions of mysql coming with v. 4.1+
quote php.net
"The mysqli extension allows you to access the functionality provided by
MySQL 4.1 and above"
( http://www.php.net/manual/en/ref.mysqli.php )
Achim
Andy Hassall wrote:
> On Mon, 03 Sep 2007 17:38:45 -0400, Jerry Stuckle
> wrote:
>
>>> mysqli has only been introduced with PHP5.
>> mysqli was introduced in PHP 4.1.
>
> No it wasn't.
http://www.php.net/manual/en/ref.mysqli.php
Yes, it was.
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AchimR wrote:
> Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>> AchimR wrote:
>>> varois83 wrote:
>>>> Hi
>>>>
>>>> I would like to learn PHP and I know we are at version 5. A friend
>>>> let me use 2 of his books but they cover PHP 4. Is that ok for
>>>> starting to learn the language? Or should I go straight with a PHP 5
>>>> book ?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks a lot
>>>>
>>>> Patrick
>>>>
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> Not really,
>>>
>>> there are significant differences in PHP5 compared to 4, especially
>>> the OOP class use, but also differences between mysql and mysqli are
>>> not shown in a PHP4 book, simply as mysqli has only been introduced
>>> with PHP5.
>>>
>>> Achim
>>
>> mysqli was introduced in PHP 4.1.
>>
> mysqli is a PHP5 introduction.
> you might've confused it with mySQL 4.1, as mysqli was designed to work
> with more functions of mysql coming with v. 4.1+
>
> quote php.net
> "The mysqli extension allows you to access the functionality provided by
> MySQL 4.1 and above"
> ( http://www.php.net/manual/en/ref.mysqli.php )
>
> Achim
Exactly. The functions were available in PHP 4.1.
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Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>
> Andy Hassall wrote:
> > On Mon, 03 Sep 2007 17:38:45 -0400, Jerry Stuckle
> > wrote:
> >
> >>> mysqli has only been introduced with PHP5.
> >> mysqli was introduced in PHP 4.1.
> >
> > No it wasn't.
>
> http://www.php.net/manual/en/ref.mysqli.php
>
> Yes, it was.
No, it wasn't. Andy is right. Read the link you provided yourself more
closely.
Mysqli requires a minimum *MYSQL* version of 4.1, not a minimum *PHP*
version of 4.1. The minimum PHP version required for mysqli is 5.0.
Everyone makes mistakes sometimes. ;-)
Bye!
..oO(Jerry Stuckle)
>AchimR wrote:
>> Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>>>
>>> mysqli was introduced in PHP 4.1.
>>>
>> mysqli is a PHP5 introduction.
>> you might've confused it with mySQL 4.1, as mysqli was designed to work
>> with more functions of mysql coming with v. 4.1+
>>
>> quote php.net
>> "The mysqli extension allows you to access the functionality provided by
>> MySQL 4.1 and above"
>> ( http://www.php.net/manual/en/ref.mysqli.php )
>>
>> Achim
>
>Exactly. The functions were available in PHP 4.1.
Read again. It's about _MySQL_ 4.1, not PHP 4.1. The MySQLi extension
was introduced with PHP 5 in 2004 (or 2003 if it was in beta already).
There's not a single entry about it in the PHP 4 changelog and the
manual clearly states "PHP 5" for all its functions.
Micha
Anonymous wrote:
> Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>> Andy Hassall wrote:
>>> On Mon, 03 Sep 2007 17:38:45 -0400, Jerry Stuckle
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> mysqli has only been introduced with PHP5.
>>>> mysqli was introduced in PHP 4.1.
>>> No it wasn't.
>> http://www.php.net/manual/en/ref.mysqli.php
>>
>> Yes, it was.
>
> No, it wasn't. Andy is right. Read the link you provided yourself more
> closely.
>
> Mysqli requires a minimum *MYSQL* version of 4.1, not a minimum *PHP*
> version of 4.1. The minimum PHP version required for mysqli is 5.0.
>
> Everyone makes mistakes sometimes. ;-)
>
> Bye!
Ah, yes, I did misread it. More than once, in fact! Thanks.
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Michael Fesser wrote:
> .oO(Jerry Stuckle)
>
>> AchimR wrote:
>>> Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>>>> mysqli was introduced in PHP 4.1.
>>>>
>>> mysqli is a PHP5 introduction.
>>> you might've confused it with mySQL 4.1, as mysqli was designed to work
>>> with more functions of mysql coming with v. 4.1+
>>>
>>> quote php.net
>>> "The mysqli extension allows you to access the functionality provided by
>>> MySQL 4.1 and above"
>>> ( http://www.php.net/manual/en/ref.mysqli.php )
>>>
>>> Achim
>> Exactly. The functions were available in PHP 4.1.
>
> Read again. It's about _MySQL_ 4.1, not PHP 4.1. The MySQLi extension
> was introduced with PHP 5 in 2004 (or 2003 if it was in beta already).
> There's not a single entry about it in the PHP 4 changelog and the
> manual clearly states "PHP 5" for all its functions.
>
> Micha
Yes, I did misread this - more than once. Thanks!
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Jerry Stuckle wrote:
> Ah, yes, I did misread it. More than once, in fact! Thanks.
All this debate, and you should be using PDO anyway!
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Toby A Inkster wrote:
> Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>
>> Ah, yes, I did misread it. More than once, in fact! Thanks.
>
> All this debate, and you should be using PDO anyway!
>
Naw, PDO is OK, and fine for others. But I have my own database class
hierarchy I developed before PDO came along.
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Sanders, Jerry and Achim thanks for your help I will get a new PHP 5
book.
Best regards
Patrick