Problem with "table" inside "p"
Problem with "table" inside "p"
am 05.09.2007 16:09:47 von sevillad
Hello,
I've put a couple of tables inside a "p" element, and I get an
unexpected space between the line before the table and the table
itself. I added a black border around the "p" and I'm surprised to see
(in FF2) that the table isn't included! If I switch to IE6 it works
well. Why would this be? The test page is in
www.davidsevilla.com/test1.html
Thanks a lot,
David
Re: Problem with "table" inside "p"
am 05.09.2007 16:18:29 von Michael Fesser
..oO(sevillad)
>I've put a couple of tables inside a "p" element
Invalid markup. A paragraph can't contain anything but inline elements.
>and I get an
>unexpected space between the line before the table and the table
>itself. I added a black border around the "p" and I'm surprised to see
>(in FF2) that the table isn't included!
Correct. The browser will implicitly close the paragraph (whose end tag
is optional), before starting the table. You'll also get a validator
warning about an "end tag for element "P" which is not open".
Micha
Re: Problem with "table" inside "p"
am 06.09.2007 01:30:16 von Martin Jay
On Wed, 05 Sep 2007 14:09:47 -0000, sevillad
wrote:
>I've put a couple of tables inside a "p" element, and I get an
>unexpected space between the line before the table and the table
>itself. I added a black border around the "p" and I'm surprised to see
>(in FF2) that the table isn't included! If I switch to IE6 it works
>well. Why would this be? The test page is in
>
>www.davidsevilla.com/test1.html
Tables should not be put inside paragraphs, so your markup is invalid.
Presumably, Firefox is automatically closing the block element
when the new table element begins. This is expected behaviour, and as
I understand it, this is correct.
On the other hand IE6 makes a wrong guess, which just happens to
coincide with what you want.
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Re: Problem with "table" inside "p"
am 06.09.2007 06:55:04 von Neredbojias
Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Wed, 05 Sep 2007 14:09:47 GMT
sevillad scribed:
> I've put a couple of tables inside a "p" element, and I get an
> unexpected space between the line before the table and the table
> itself. I added a black border around the "p" and I'm surprised to see
> (in FF2) that the table isn't included! If I switch to IE6 it works
> well. Why would this be? The test page is in
>
> www.davidsevilla.com/test1.html
Are you the guy with the talking chipmunks?
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Re: Problem with "table" inside "p"
am 06.09.2007 08:35:26 von Blinky the Shark
Neredbojias wrote:
> Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Wed, 05 Sep 2007
> 14:09:47 GMT sevillad scribed:
>
>> I've put a couple of tables inside a "p" element, and I get an
>> unexpected space between the line before the table and the table
>> itself. I added a black border around the "p" and I'm surprised to
>> see (in FF2) that the table isn't included! If I switch to IE6 it
>> works well. Why would this be? The test page is in
>>
>> www.davidsevilla.com/test1.html
>
> Are you the guy with the talking chipmunks?
I can never remember elements are allowed in (or required to be in)
other elements. While I know HTML Help gets knocked about in here, one
thing I like about their entries for elements is their concise Contents
and Contained In lists.
http://htmlhelp.com/reference/html40/block/pre.html
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Re: Problem with "table" inside "p"
am 06.09.2007 14:11:50 von Harlan Messinger
Neredbojias wrote:
> Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Wed, 05 Sep 2007 14:09:47 GMT
> sevillad scribed:
>
>> I've put a couple of tables inside a "p" element, and I get an
>> unexpected space between the line before the table and the table
>> itself. I added a black border around the "p" and I'm surprised to see
>> (in FF2) that the table isn't included! If I switch to IE6 it works
>> well. Why would this be? The test page is in
>>
>> www.davidsevilla.com/test1.html
>
> Are you the guy with the talking chipmunks?
>
No doubt he's here to promote their new film.
Re: Problem with "table" inside "p"
am 06.09.2007 15:47:58 von sevillad
Hi,
> >www.davidsevilla.com/test1.html
>
> Are you the guy with the talking chipmunks?
No. I wish I was.
> --
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> Half lies are worth twice as much as whole lies.
David
Re: Problem with "table" inside "p"
am 06.09.2007 19:27:13 von Blinky the Shark
Harlan Messinger wrote:
> Neredbojias wrote:
>> Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Wed, 05 Sep 2007 14:09:47 GMT
>> sevillad scribed:
>>
>>> I've put a couple of tables inside a "p" element, and I get an
>>> unexpected space between the line before the table and the table
>>> itself. I added a black border around the "p" and I'm surprised to see
>>> (in FF2) that the table isn't included! If I switch to IE6 it works
>>> well. Why would this be? The test page is in
>>>
>>> www.davidsevilla.com/test1.html
>>
>> Are you the guy with the talking chipmunks?
>>
> No doubt he's here to promote their new film.
"When Good Chipmunks Go Bad" - TOO HOT FOR TV!
Operators are standing around.
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Re: Problem with "table" inside "p"
am 06.09.2007 21:39:12 von John Hosking
Blinky the Shark wrote:
> Harlan Messinger wrote:
>> Neredbojias wrote:
>>> Are you the guy with the talking chipmunks?
>>>
>> No doubt he's here to promote their new film.
>
> "When Good Chipmunks Go Bad" - TOO HOT FOR TV!
>
> Operators are standing around.
Sadly, it's much, much worse than that:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0952640/
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Re: Problem with "table" inside "p"
am 06.09.2007 23:17:01 von Blinky the Shark
John Hosking wrote:
> Blinky the Shark wrote:
>> Harlan Messinger wrote:
>>> Neredbojias wrote:
>
>>>> Are you the guy with the talking chipmunks?
>>>>
>>> No doubt he's here to promote their new film.
>>
>> "When Good Chipmunks Go Bad" - TOO HOT FOR TV!
>>
>> Operators are standing around.
>
> Sadly, it's much, much worse than that:
> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0952640/
Damn. It's sure fulla good looking women.
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Re: Problem with "table" inside "p"
am 07.09.2007 08:39:54 von Neredbojias
Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Thu, 06 Sep 2007 06:35:26 GMT
Blinky the Shark scribed:
>>> I've put a couple of tables inside a "p" element, and I get an
>>> unexpected space between the line before the table and the table
>>> itself. I added a black border around the "p" and I'm surprised to
>>> see (in FF2) that the table isn't included! If I switch to IE6 it
>>> works well. Why would this be? The test page is in
>>>
>>> www.davidsevilla.com/test1.html
>>
>> Are you the guy with the talking chipmunks?
>
> I can never remember elements are allowed in (or required to be in)
> other elements. While I know HTML Help gets knocked about in here, one
> thing I like about their entries for elements is their concise Contents
> and Contained In lists.
>
> http://htmlhelp.com/reference/html40/block/pre.html
I can't remember 'em all, either, and that seems like a pretty good link
for checkin'.
Btw, dorayme sends her love...
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Re: Problem with "table" inside "p"
am 07.09.2007 08:46:05 von Neredbojias
Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Thu, 06 Sep 2007 21:17:01 GMT
Blinky the Shark scribed:
> Damn. It's sure fulla good looking women.
Logical enough. Cute, little furry things always attract females.
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Re: Problem with "table" inside "p"
am 07.09.2007 08:49:08 von Neredbojias
Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Thu, 06 Sep 2007 13:47:58 GMT
sevillad scribed:
> Hi,
>
>> >www.davidsevilla.com/test1.html
>>
>> Are you the guy with the talking chipmunks?
>
> No. I wish I was.
Well, success is no piece of cake. One time I tried training some gerbils
and that was a real bummer.
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Re: Problem with "table" inside "p"
am 07.09.2007 09:04:07 von Blinky the Shark
Neredbojias wrote:
> Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Thu, 06 Sep 2007
> 06:35:26 GMT Blinky the Shark scribed:
>
>>>> I've put a couple of tables inside a "p" element, and I get an
>>>> unexpected space between the line before the table and the table
>>>> itself. I added a black border around the "p" and I'm surprised to
>>>> see (in FF2) that the table isn't included! If I switch to IE6 it
>>>> works well. Why would this be? The test page is in
>>>>
>>>> www.davidsevilla.com/test1.html
>>>
>>> Are you the guy with the talking chipmunks?
>>
>> I can never remember elements are allowed in (or required to be in)
>> other elements. While I know HTML Help gets knocked about in here,
>> one thing I like about their entries for elements is their concise
>> Contents and Contained In lists.
>>
>> http://htmlhelp.com/reference/html40/block/pre.html
>
> I can't remember 'em all, either, and that seems like a pretty good
> link for checkin'.
I'm disappointed in a change they just made. The search box on their
home page
http://www.htmlhelp.com
used to give you a simple, one-line per entry, list of hits. Now
they've converted to a Google site search, and you don't get that
no-nonsense results page any more.
Note the lack of any ref to Google-based search on this archive of that
page at the WayBack Machine, from April:
http://web.archive.org/web/20070406173204/http://htmlhelp.co m/
Compare to today's search function:
http://www.htmlhelp.com/index.html
On the flip side, this frustration led me to find the two
straightforward list pages (which I'd not seen before because I always
just used the simple search):
http://htmlhelp.com/reference/html40/olist.html
For the other, there's a link near the top of that one for the
alpha-sort list.
I'd suggest either of those as your bookmark into the site.
Also, look at this page again (my original link to this site):
http://htmlhelp.com/reference/html40/block/pre.html
See how "contents" says "inline elements except", followed by the
exceptions list? Before the recent reworking, "content" simply listed
what was allowed, rather than showing exceptions to the list that
appears on a linked page. That's a ninor niggle, I'll grant; but I
won't withdraw it. :)
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Re: Problem with "table" inside "p"
am 07.09.2007 09:11:30 von dorayme
In article
,
Neredbojias wrote:
> Btw, dorayme sends her love...
Bullshit. Tell him to get stuffed.
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Re: Problem with "table" inside "p"
am 07.09.2007 09:17:53 von Blinky the Shark
Neredbojias wrote:
> Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Thu, 06 Sep 2007 21:17:01 GMT
> Blinky the Shark scribed:
>
>> Damn. It's sure fulla good looking women.
>
> Logical enough. Cute, little furry things always attract females.
It may not be coincidental that cute girls with little furry things used
to attract males.
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Re: Problem with "table" inside "p"
am 08.09.2007 04:38:15 von Ed Mullen
Blinky the Shark wrote:
> Neredbojias wrote:
>> Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Thu, 06 Sep 2007 21:17:01 GMT
>> Blinky the Shark scribed:
>>
>>> Damn. It's sure fulla good looking women.
>> Logical enough. Cute, little furry things always attract females.
>
> It may not be coincidental that cute girls with little furry things used
> to attract males.
>
>
"... used to ..." ???
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Re: Problem with "table" inside "p"
am 08.09.2007 06:04:15 von Blinky the Shark
Ed Mullen wrote:
> Blinky the Shark wrote:
>> Neredbojias wrote:
>>> Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Thu, 06 Sep 2007 21:17:01 GMT
>>> Blinky the Shark scribed:
>>>
>>>> Damn. It's sure fulla good looking women.
>>> Logical enough. Cute, little furry things always attract females.
>>
>> It may not be coincidental that cute girls with little furry things used
>> to attract males.
>>
>>
>
> "... used to ..." ???
I was making allowance for the contemporary favor of shaved-offness.
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Re: Problem with "table" inside "p"
am 08.09.2007 19:08:52 von Neredbojias
Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Fri, 07 Sep 2007 07:04:07
GMT Blinky the Shark scribed:
>> I can't remember 'em all, either, and that seems like a pretty good
>> link for checkin'.
>
> I'm disappointed in a change they just made. The search box on their
> home page
>
> http://www.htmlhelp.com
>
> used to give you a simple, one-line per entry, list of hits. Now
> they've converted to a Google site search, and you don't get that
> no-nonsense results page any more.
>
> Note the lack of any ref to Google-based search on this archive of that
> page at the WayBack Machine, from April:
>
> http://web.archive.org/web/20070406173204/http://htmlhelp.co m/
>
> Compare to today's search function:
>
> http://www.htmlhelp.com/index.html
I see 2 radio buttons as an option, though. Not the same?
> On the flip side, this frustration led me to find the two
> straightforward list pages (which I'd not seen before because I always
> just used the simple search):
>
> http://htmlhelp.com/reference/html40/olist.html
>
> For the other, there's a link near the top of that one for the
> alpha-sort list.
>
> I'd suggest either of those as your bookmark into the site.
>
> Also, look at this page again (my original link to this site):
>
> http://htmlhelp.com/reference/html40/block/pre.html
>
> See how "contents" says "inline elements except", followed by the
> exceptions list? Before the recent reworking, "content" simply listed
> what was allowed, rather than showing exceptions to the list that
> appears on a linked page. That's a ninor niggle, I'll grant; but I
> won't withdraw it. :)
Yeah, I'd rather have all the elements listed, myself. IT help sites
should be as detailed and obvious as possible, -in other words the
antithesis of the html 4.01 specification mess.
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Re: Problem with "table" inside "p"
am 08.09.2007 20:18:27 von Blinky the Shark
Neredbojias wrote:
> Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Fri, 07 Sep 2007 07:04:07
> GMT Blinky the Shark scribed:
>
>>> I can't remember 'em all, either, and that seems like a pretty good
>>> link for checkin'.
>>
>> I'm disappointed in a change they just made. The search box on their
>> home page
>>
>> http://www.htmlhelp.com
>>
>> used to give you a simple, one-line per entry, list of hits. Now
>> they've converted to a Google site search, and you don't get that
>> no-nonsense results page any more.
>>
>> Note the lack of any ref to Google-based search on this archive of that
>> page at the WayBack Machine, from April:
>>
>> http://web.archive.org/web/20070406173204/http://htmlhelp.co m/
>>
>> Compare to today's search function:
>>
>> http://www.htmlhelp.com/index.html
>
> I see 2 radio buttons as an option, though. Not the same?
They're both Google. One is Google-this-site. That is what I deem
inferior to their *old* search software.
>> On the flip side, this frustration led me to find the two
>> straightforward list pages (which I'd not seen before because I always
>> just used the simple search):
>>
>> http://htmlhelp.com/reference/html40/olist.html
>>
>> For the other, there's a link near the top of that one for the
>> alpha-sort list.
>>
>> I'd suggest either of those as your bookmark into the site.
>>
>> Also, look at this page again (my original link to this site):
>>
>> http://htmlhelp.com/reference/html40/block/pre.html
>>
>> See how "contents" says "inline elements except", followed by the
>> exceptions list? Before the recent reworking, "content" simply listed
>> what was allowed, rather than showing exceptions to the list that
>> appears on a linked page. That's a ninor niggle, I'll grant; but I
>> won't withdraw it. :)
>
> Yeah, I'd rather have all the elements listed, myself. IT help sites
> should be as detailed and obvious as possible, -in other words the
> antithesis of the html 4.01 specification mess.
Certainly it's the final word, but it's not where I prefer to *start*.
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Re: Problem with "table" inside "p"
am 09.09.2007 13:37:18 von Neredbojias
Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Sat, 08 Sep 2007 18:18:27 GMT
Blinky the Shark scribed:
>>> Compare to today's search function:
>>>
>>> http://www.htmlhelp.com/index.html
>>
>> I see 2 radio buttons as an option, though. Not the same?
>
> They're both Google. One is Google-this-site. That is what I deem
> inferior to their *old* search software.
I think I see - once-removed search capabilities, huh? Don't use search
that much myself, but then I don't do a real lot of research on the Web,
either. In the past I used to get quite aggravated by hitting bunches of
low-number search-engine placed sites which were totally, absolutely crap,
often because of ads and such, and finally find a decent site within the
scope I wanted after about 200 tries. This even happened on Google,
although last I remember was about 5-6 months ago. I'm not exactly a fan
of search-engines, although they may (hopefully) be improving.
>> Yeah, I'd rather have all the elements listed, myself. IT help sites
>> should be as detailed and obvious as possible, -in other words the
>> antithesis of the html 4.01 specification mess.
>
> Certainly it's the final word, but it's not where I prefer to *start*.
It's often vague, disorganized, partly incomprehensible, and very poorly
illustrated with examples pertinent to the subject matter. "Ending" there
hardly inspires confidence in the medium supposedly defined.
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Re: Problem with "table" inside "p"
am 09.09.2007 23:56:18 von dorayme
In article
,
Neredbojias wrote:
> I'm not exactly a fan
> of search-engines
You prefer to search by what then... typing vaguely likely
looking keywords into stabs in the dark at urls?
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Re: Problem with "table" inside "p"
am 10.09.2007 03:13:23 von Neredbojias
Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Sun, 09 Sep 2007 21:56:18 GMT
dorayme scribed:
>> I'm not exactly a fan
>> of search-engines
>
> You prefer to search by what then... typing vaguely likely
> looking keywords into stabs in the dark at urls?
What do I need to search for? I generally know where I'm going. Ses are
merely a narcotic for those who lack motivational acuity.
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Re: Problem with "table" inside "p"
am 10.09.2007 03:23:33 von dorayme
In article
,
Neredbojias wrote:
> Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Sun, 09 Sep 2007 21:56:18 GMT
> dorayme scribed:
>
>
> >> I'm not exactly a fan
> >> of search-engines
> >
> > You prefer to search by what then... typing vaguely likely
> > looking keywords into stabs in the dark at urls?
>
> What do I need to search for? I generally know where I'm going. Ses are
> merely a narcotic for those who lack motivational acuity.
And I thought I was the master of absolute garbage! My hat goes
off to you. I say this with professional sincerity. Now, piss off
and go to bed. The day shift staff are on now.
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Re: Problem with "table" inside "p"
am 10.09.2007 03:35:05 von 23s
"Neredbojias" wrote in message
news:Xns99A6B959D31E1nanopandaneredbojias@198.186.190.161...
> Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Sun, 09 Sep 2007 21:56:18
> GMT
> dorayme scribed:
>
>
>>> I'm not exactly a fan
>>> of search-engines
>>
>> You prefer to search by what then... typing vaguely likely
>> looking keywords into stabs in the dark at urls?
>
> What do I need to search for? I generally know where I'm going. Ses are
> merely a narcotic for those who lack motivational acuity.
>
I take my hat off to you... clearly you are capable of consuming and
instantly recalling the entirety of the world wide web in your brain. Either
that, or you have such a narrow field of view that you only need to revisit
the same sites over and over.
Re: Problem with "table" inside "p"
am 10.09.2007 03:42:17 von Neredbojias
Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Mon, 10 Sep 2007 01:23:33
GMT dorayme scribed:
>> >> I'm not exactly a fan
>> >> of search-engines
>> >
>> > You prefer to search by what then... typing vaguely likely
>> > looking keywords into stabs in the dark at urls?
>>
>> What do I need to search for? I generally know where I'm going. Ses
>> are merely a narcotic for those who lack motivational acuity.
>
> And I thought I was the master of absolute garbage! My hat goes
> off to you. I say this with professional sincerity. Now, piss off
> and go to bed. The day shift staff are on now.
I didn't really expect you to understand what I said. In fact, judging by
your past missives, I actually expect you to understand very little. But
it is okay. The world is very tolerant and even mushrooms are sometimes
lauded for their fungoidal excellence.
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Re: Problem with "table" inside "p"
am 10.09.2007 04:04:09 von dorayme
In article
,
Neredbojias wrote:
> I didn't really expect you to understand what I said.
But, of course, there are people just lined up in the queue
marked "People who understand why some computer users would never
need a search engine".
Go to bed, you are over tired.
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Re: Problem with "table" inside "p"
am 11.09.2007 00:24:35 von Neredbojias
Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Mon, 10 Sep 2007 01:35:05
GMT asdf scribed:
>>>> I'm not exactly a fan
>>>> of search-engines
>>>
>>> You prefer to search by what then... typing vaguely likely
>>> looking keywords into stabs in the dark at urls?
>>
>> What do I need to search for? I generally know where I'm going. Ses
>> are merely a narcotic for those who lack motivational acuity.
>>
>
> I take my hat off to you... clearly you are capable of consuming and
> instantly recalling the entirety of the world wide web in your brain.
> Either that, or you have such a narrow field of view that you only
> need to revisit the same sites over and over.
Put your hat back on; your head's getting cold.
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Re: Problem with "table" inside "p"
am 11.09.2007 00:26:11 von Neredbojias
Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Mon, 10 Sep 2007 02:04:09 GMT
dorayme scribed:
>> I didn't really expect you to understand what I said.
>
> But, of course, there are people just lined up in the queue
> marked "People who understand why some computer users would never
> need a search engine".
>
> Go to bed, you are over tired.
I'm like that mythology guy who was always right but never believed.
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Re: Problem with "table" inside "p"
am 11.09.2007 09:51:20 von Ben C
On 2007-09-10, Neredbojias wrote:
> Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Mon, 10 Sep 2007 02:04:09 GMT
> dorayme scribed:
>
>>> I didn't really expect you to understand what I said.
>>
>> But, of course, there are people just lined up in the queue
>> marked "People who understand why some computer users would never
>> need a search engine".
>>
>> Go to bed, you are over tired.
>
> I'm like that mythology guy who was always right but never believed.
Cassandra wasn't a guy.
Re: Problem with "table" inside "p"
am 11.09.2007 10:06:23 von Neredbojias
Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Tue, 11 Sep 2007 07:51:20
GMT Ben C scribed:
>>>> I didn't really expect you to understand what I said.
>>>
>>> But, of course, there are people just lined up in the queue
>>> marked "People who understand why some computer users would never
>>> need a search engine".
>>>
>>> Go to bed, you are over tired.
>>
>> I'm like that mythology guy who was always right but never believed.
>
> Cassandra wasn't a guy.
Are you trying to tell me that back in the past they believed in some
_woman_ who was always right? Hah, no wonder they call it _myth_ology!
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Re: Problem with "table" inside "p"
am 11.09.2007 12:16:11 von Blinky the Shark
Ben C wrote:
> On 2007-09-10, Neredbojias wrote:
>> Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Mon, 10 Sep 2007 02:04:09 GMT
>> dorayme scribed:
>>
>>>> I didn't really expect you to understand what I said.
>>>
>>> But, of course, there are people just lined up in the queue
>>> marked "People who understand why some computer users would never
>>> need a search engine".
>>>
>>> Go to bed, you are over tired.
>>
>> I'm like that mythology guy who was always right but never believed.
>
> Cassandra wasn't a guy.
They didn't believe that, either.
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Re: Problem with "table" inside "p"
am 11.09.2007 12:17:01 von Blinky the Shark
Neredbojias wrote:
> Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Tue, 11 Sep 2007 07:51:20
> GMT Ben C scribed:
>
>>>>> I didn't really expect you to understand what I said.
>>>>
>>>> But, of course, there are people just lined up in the queue
>>>> marked "People who understand why some computer users would never
>>>> need a search engine".
>>>>
>>>> Go to bed, you are over tired.
>>>
>>> I'm like that mythology guy who was always right but never believed.
>>
>> Cassandra wasn't a guy.
>
> Are you trying to tell me that back in the past they believed in some
> _woman_ who was always right? Hah, no wonder they call it _myth_ology!
No. Reread. They *didn't* believe her. :)
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Re: Problem with "table" inside "p"
am 11.09.2007 13:24:12 von Ben C
On 2007-09-11, Blinky the Shark wrote:
> Neredbojias wrote:
>> Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Tue, 11 Sep 2007 07:51:20
>> GMT Ben C scribed:
>>
>>>>>> I didn't really expect you to understand what I said.
>>>>>
>>>>> But, of course, there are people just lined up in the queue
>>>>> marked "People who understand why some computer users would never
>>>>> need a search engine".
>>>>>
>>>>> Go to bed, you are over tired.
>>>>
>>>> I'm like that mythology guy who was always right but never believed.
>>>
>>> Cassandra wasn't a guy.
>>
>> Are you trying to tell me that back in the past they believed in some
>> _woman_ who was always right? Hah, no wonder they call it _myth_ology!
>
> No. Reread. They *didn't* believe her. :)
The other characters in the story believe in her but not her. The
readers of the story believe her but not in her.
It is a good illustration of the concept of dramatic irony.
Re: Problem with "table" inside "p"
am 11.09.2007 13:56:01 von Neredbojias
Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Tue, 11 Sep 2007 10:17:01 GMT
Blinky the Shark scribed:
>>>> I'm like that mythology guy who was always right but never believed.
>>>
>>> Cassandra wasn't a guy.
>>
>> Are you trying to tell me that back in the past they believed in some
>> _woman_ who was always right? Hah, no wonder they call it _myth_ology!
>
> No. Reread. They *didn't* believe her. :)
Oh, right, how silly of me. Still, reminds me of stories like the tale of
that guy Atlas who supposedly held the whole world up on his back. Wonder
what he did with it when he had to take a crap..?
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Re: Problem with "table" inside "p"
am 11.09.2007 14:15:57 von rf
"Neredbojias" wrote in message
news:Xns99A83226E4E4Enanopandaneredbojias@198.186.190.161...
> Oh, right, how silly of me. Still, reminds me of stories like the tale of
> that guy Atlas who supposedly held the whole world up on his back. Wonder
> what he did with it when he had to take a crap..?
But... what was he standing on?
Oh, yes, the dunny :-)
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Re: Problem with "table" inside "p"
am 11.09.2007 19:49:49 von Blinky the Shark
Neredbojias wrote:
> Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Tue, 11 Sep 2007 10:17:01 GMT
> Blinky the Shark scribed:
>
>>>>> I'm like that mythology guy who was always right but never believed.
>>>>
>>>> Cassandra wasn't a guy.
>>>
>>> Are you trying to tell me that back in the past they believed in some
>>> _woman_ who was always right? Hah, no wonder they call it _myth_ology!
>>
>> No. Reread. They *didn't* believe her. :)
>
> Oh, right, how silly of me. Still, reminds me of stories like the tale of
> that guy Atlas who supposedly held the whole world up on his back. Wonder
> what he did with it when he had to take a crap..?
I've read that he shrugged.
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Re: Problem with "table" inside "p"
am 11.09.2007 20:36:34 von Neredbojias
Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Tue, 11 Sep 2007 12:15:57
GMT rf scribed:
>> Oh, right, how silly of me. Still, reminds me of stories like the
>> tale of that guy Atlas who supposedly held the whole world up on his
>> back. Wonder what he did with it when he had to take a crap..?
>
> But... what was he standing on?
>
> Oh, yes, the dunny :-)
What's a dunny? Never heard that term before 'cept once from a drunk who
was trying to say "money" and "dough" at the same time.
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Re: Problem with "table" inside "p"
am 11.09.2007 20:42:09 von Neredbojias
Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Tue, 11 Sep 2007 17:49:49
GMT Blinky the Shark scribed:
>>> No. Reread. They *didn't* believe her. :)
>>
>> Oh, right, how silly of me. Still, reminds me of stories like the
>> tale of that guy Atlas who supposedly held the whole world up on his
>> back. Wonder what he did with it when he had to take a crap..?
>
> I've read that he shrugged.
Hah! Hah! Hah! (Yeah, right.)
Actually, I am a bit familiar with Ayn Rand, and although she was a
fruitcake, her writings could spark interest. Basically, though,
philosophy is nothing more than the mental meanderings of the productivity-
challenged class.
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Re: Problem with "table" inside "p"
am 11.09.2007 21:05:30 von Blinky the Shark
Neredbojias wrote:
> Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Tue, 11 Sep 2007 17:49:49
> GMT Blinky the Shark scribed:
>
>>>> No. Reread. They *didn't* believe her. :)
>>>
>>> Oh, right, how silly of me. Still, reminds me of stories like the
>>> tale of that guy Atlas who supposedly held the whole world up on his
>>> back. Wonder what he did with it when he had to take a crap..?
>>
>> I've read that he shrugged.
>
> Hah! Hah! Hah! (Yeah, right.)
>
> Actually, I am a bit familiar with Ayn Rand, and although she was a
> fruitcake, her writings could spark interest. Basically, though,
> philosophy is nothing more than the mental meanderings of the productivity-
> challenged class.
I've read AS and The Fountainhead. I think that's all.
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Re: Problem with "table" inside "p"
am 11.09.2007 21:06:02 von Blinky the Shark
Neredbojias wrote:
> Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Tue, 11 Sep 2007 12:15:57
> GMT rf scribed:
>
>>> Oh, right, how silly of me. Still, reminds me of stories like the
>>> tale of that guy Atlas who supposedly held the whole world up on his
>>> back. Wonder what he did with it when he had to take a crap..?
>>
>> But... what was he standing on?
>>
>> Oh, yes, the dunny :-)
>
> What's a dunny? Never heard that term before 'cept once from a drunk who
> was trying to say "money" and "dough" at the same time.
Terlet.
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Re: Problem with "table" inside "p"
am 12.09.2007 11:54:19 von Neredbojias
Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Tue, 11 Sep 2007 19:06:02
GMT Blinky the Shark scribed:
>>>> Oh, right, how silly of me. Still, reminds me of stories like the
>>>> tale of that guy Atlas who supposedly held the whole world up on
>>>> his back. Wonder what he did with it when he had to take a crap..?
>>>
>>> But... what was he standing on?
>>>
>>> Oh, yes, the dunny :-)
>>
>> What's a dunny? Never heard that term before 'cept once from a drunk
>> who was trying to say "money" and "dough" at the same time.
>
> Terlet.
I see - what he/she "dun" it in. Still, ferners talk even funnier than
fish.
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Re: Problem with "table" inside "p"
am 12.09.2007 12:04:58 von Neredbojias
Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Tue, 11 Sep 2007 19:05:30
GMT Blinky the Shark scribed:
>>>> Oh, right, how silly of me. Still, reminds me of stories like the
>>>> tale of that guy Atlas who supposedly held the whole world up on
>>>> his back. Wonder what he did with it when he had to take a crap..?
>>>
>>> I've read that he shrugged.
>>
>> Hah! Hah! Hah! (Yeah, right.)
>>
>> Actually, I am a bit familiar with Ayn Rand, and although she was a
>> fruitcake, her writings could spark interest. Basically, though,
>> philosophy is nothing more than the mental meanderings of the
>> productivity- challenged class.
>
> I've read AS and The Fountainhead. I think that's all.
Mmm, I'm not so sure I read any more. Liked one of them, at least, but
can't remember which. My favorite kinda "seamy-themey"-philosophic-type
writer, though, was Dostoevsky. In spite of his reputation (or perhaps
because of it,) "Friend of the Family" was one of the funniest tales I ever
read. I've perused almost all of his stuff, though some time ago. dorayme
strongly reminds me of one title in particular...
Hardy was kinda good, too, but I think a bit uneven in quality. However,
the dunnies were cold in them days.
Since were on the subject of novels, did you ever happen to read anything
by "Hodgson" or "Hudson"? Not gonna tell ya the titles (now). But good
stuff.
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Re: Problem with "table" inside "p"
am 12.09.2007 20:10:26 von Blinky the Shark
Neredbojias wrote:
> Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Tue, 11 Sep 2007 19:05:30
> GMT Blinky the Shark scribed:
>
>>>>> Oh, right, how silly of me. Still, reminds me of stories like the
>>>>> tale of that guy Atlas who supposedly held the whole world up on
>>>>> his back. Wonder what he did with it when he had to take a crap..?
>>>>
>>>> I've read that he shrugged.
>>>
>>> Hah! Hah! Hah! (Yeah, right.)
>>>
>>> Actually, I am a bit familiar with Ayn Rand, and although she was a
>>> fruitcake, her writings could spark interest. Basically, though,
>>> philosophy is nothing more than the mental meanderings of the
>>> productivity- challenged class.
>>
>> I've read AS and The Fountainhead. I think that's all.
>
> Mmm, I'm not so sure I read any more. Liked one of them, at least, but
> can't remember which. My favorite kinda "seamy-themey"-philosophic-type
> writer, though, was Dostoevsky. In spite of his reputation (or perhaps
I've never read any of his stuff.
> because of it,) "Friend of the Family" was one of the funniest tales I ever
> read. I've perused almost all of his stuff, though some time ago. dorayme
> strongly reminds me of one title in particular...
Oh, and thanks for forcing me to get creative with my killfilters. I've
added to hers one that bins your direct replies to hers. :)
> Hardy was kinda good, too, but I think a bit uneven in quality. However,
> the dunnies were cold in them days.
>
> Since were on the subject of novels, did you ever happen to read anything
> by "Hodgson" or "Hudson"? Not gonna tell ya the titles (now). But good
> stuff.
Doesn't ring any bells.
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Re: Problem with "table" inside "p"
am 13.09.2007 00:15:58 von dorayme
In article
,
Neredbojias wrote:
> Hardy was kinda good, too, but I think a bit uneven in quality
Did you say Hardy? I saw a gorgeous BBC version of Under The
Greenwood Tree the other night.
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Re: Problem with "table" inside "p"
am 13.09.2007 00:17:45 von Andrew
On 2007-09-12, dorayme wrote:
> In article
>,
> Neredbojias wrote:
>
>> Hardy was kinda good, too, but I think a bit uneven in quality
>
> Did you say Hardy? I saw a gorgeous BBC version of Under The
> Greenwood Tree the other night.
If you want to get _really_ depressed read Jude the Obscure.
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Re: Problem with "table" inside "p"
am 13.09.2007 00:29:20 von Andrew
On 2007-09-11, Neredbojias wrote:
> Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Tue, 11 Sep 2007 07:51:20
> GMT Ben C scribed:
[...]
>>> I'm like that mythology guy who was always right but never believed.
>>
>> Cassandra wasn't a guy.
>
> Are you trying to tell me that back in the past they believed in some
> _woman_ who was always right? Hah, no wonder they call it _myth_ology!
You may be pleased to know that Cassandra, who in the Iliad was the
sister of Hector, gained her power of prophecy by sleeping with
Apollo. She gained the curse of not being believed when she refused to
sleep with him any more. Moral: whn a god wants to sleep with you...
In literature her great moment is in Aeschylus's Agamemnon where she
prophesies Agamemnon's death to the elders _while_ it is happening
offstage. She is then killed by Agamemnon's wife and murderer
Clytemnestra.
Am I [OT] yet?
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Re: Problem with "table" inside "p"
am 13.09.2007 02:41:46 von Blinky the Shark
andrew wrote:
> You may be pleased to know that Cassandra, who in the Iliad was the
> sister of Hector, gained her power of prophecy by sleeping with
> Apollo. She gained the curse of not being believed when she refused to
> sleep with him any more. Moral: whn a god wants to sleep with you...
>
> In literature her great moment is in Aeschylus's Agamemnon where she
> prophesies Agamemnon's death to the elders _while_ it is happening
> offstage. She is then killed by Agamemnon's wife and murderer
> Clytemnestra.
>
> Am I [OT] yet?
No. I've read about 30 Greek plays. College. And, okay, last year or
so I read "Hippolytus". Again, probably. :)
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Re: Problem with "table" inside "p"
am 13.09.2007 03:38:18 von John Hosking
andrew wrote:
> [about Cassandra]
> In literature her great moment is in Aeschylus's Agamemnon where she
> prophesies Agamemnon's death to the elders _while_ it is happening
> offstage. She is then killed by Agamemnon's wife and murderer
> Clytemnestra.
>
> Am I [OT] yet?
Well, I don't know about [OT], but you should label your posts with
[SPOILER] if you're going to go around giving away important plot points
like this. I mean, you should have some consideration when you discuss
recently released work like this and be aware that quite a lot of folks
haven't seen or read them yet.
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Wondering if the DVD is out yet, and whether it'll have commentary by
the director and author.
Re: Problem with "table" inside "p"
am 13.09.2007 05:48:59 von Andrew
On 2007-09-13, John Hosking wrote:
> andrew wrote:
>> [about Cassandra]
>> In literature her great moment is in Aeschylus's Agamemnon where she
>> prophesies Agamemnon's death to the elders _while_ it is happening
>> offstage. She is then killed by Agamemnon's wife and murderer
>> Clytemnestra.
>>
>> Am I [OT] yet?
>
> Well, I don't know about [OT], but you should label your posts with
> [SPOILER] if you're going to go around giving away important plot points
> like this. I mean, you should have some consideration when you discuss
> recently released work like this and be aware that quite a lot of folks
> haven't seen or read them yet.
[SPOILER WARNING] Like this? As I tell everybody that her son Orestes
and his friend Pylades, in cooperation with her daughter Elektra, will
come later on and kill herself and her lover Aegisthos before fleeing
from the arrival of the Furies. The world's greatest soapy :-)
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Re: Problem with "table" inside "p"
am 13.09.2007 10:19:07 von Neredbojias
Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Wed, 12 Sep 2007 18:10:26
GMT Blinky the Shark scribed:
>> Since were on the subject of novels, did you ever happen to read
>> anything by "Hodgson" or "Hudson"? Not gonna tell ya the titles
>> (now). But good stuff.
>
> Doesn't ring any bells.
William Hope Hodgson wrote "The House on the Borderland" and "The Night
Land", 2 very gothicy, horrorish, and a bit science-fictiony mood novels.
I suppose the writing could be criticized, but I consider them classics.
(There's a bit of "Stephen King" flavour in them.)
William Henry Hudson was a 19th century naturalist who wrote "Green
Mansions", a story about a girl, the last surviving member of an ancient,
gifted race, living alone in a South American rain forest. The tale was
actually more or less about her encounter with a "civilized" modern man and
her inter-relation with the temporal environment.
Evidentally I read those novels at just about the right time in my life
because they made a real impression. "Green Mansions" _is_ acknowledged a
true classic, and I recommend it highly.
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Re: Problem with "table" inside "p"
am 13.09.2007 10:28:48 von Neredbojias
Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Wed, 12 Sep 2007 22:15:58 GMT
dorayme scribed:
>> Hardy was kinda good, too, but I think a bit uneven in quality
>
> Did you say Hardy? I saw a gorgeous BBC version of Under The
> Greenwood Tree the other night.
Not familiar with the title, but wish I would have seen it. It sounds
"Hardyish".
His most famous work was "Tess of the d'Urbervilles" which has had many
media versions, both good and bad. I can't remember the particular novels
I read (-except Tess), but some I liked, some I didn't, and some were
obscure (~"veiled" ref. to "Jude The Obscure".) He's worth investigating,
though, because there are some gems in his repertoire.
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Re: Problem with "table" inside "p"
am 13.09.2007 10:33:13 von Neredbojias
Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Wed, 12 Sep 2007 22:17:45 GMT
andrew scribed:
>>> Hardy was kinda good, too, but I think a bit uneven in quality
>>
>> Did you say Hardy? I saw a gorgeous BBC version of Under The
>> Greenwood Tree the other night.
>
> If you want to get _really_ depressed read Jude the Obscure.
He he, yeah, I think I did and it was one of the ones I didn't like. But
the pinacular novel on my all-time "depressing" list is "The Scarlet
Letter". Oh, I liked the story as a plot; just reading Hawthorne's writing
was like wading through an ocean of vaseline in a hurry to get to the
dunny.
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Re: Problem with "table" inside "p"
am 13.09.2007 10:42:07 von Neredbojias
Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Wed, 12 Sep 2007 22:29:20 GMT
andrew scribed:
>>>> I'm like that mythology guy who was always right but never believed.
>>>
>>> Cassandra wasn't a guy.
>>
>> Are you trying to tell me that back in the past they believed in some
>> _woman_ who was always right? Hah, no wonder they call it _myth_ology!
>
> You may be pleased to know that Cassandra, who in the Iliad was the
> sister of Hector, gained her power of prophecy by sleeping with
> Apollo. She gained the curse of not being believed when she refused to
> sleep with him any more. Moral: whn a god wants to sleep with you...
>
> In literature her great moment is in Aeschylus's Agamemnon where she
> prophesies Agamemnon's death to the elders _while_ it is happening
> offstage. She is then killed by Agamemnon's wife and murderer
> Clytemnestra.
>
> Am I [OT] yet?
Now who in their right mind would trust a woman named "Clytemnestra"?
'Course, for that matter, who in their right mind would trust a woman?
I'm not that well-versed in mythology because I always thought it (believe
or not) too prurient. "The Aeneid" is my favorite ~grand classic~, and, of
course, I've read "The Iliad" and "The Odyssey". A lot depends on the
translation, though. Some Kirk Douglas movie from the '50s whose name I
forgot but which is really "The Odyssey" tale is pretty good for cinema.
Haven't seen "Troy" yet, but I purchased it recently.
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Re: Problem with "table" inside "p"
am 13.09.2007 10:43:54 von Neredbojias
Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Thu, 13 Sep 2007 00:41:46 GMT
Blinky the Shark scribed:
>> Am I [OT] yet?
>
> No. I've read about 30 Greek plays. College. And, okay, last year or
> so I read "Hippolytus". Again, probably. :)
Big deal. I read "Hippopotamus" when I was 7.
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Re: Problem with "table" inside "p"
am 13.09.2007 10:45:14 von Blinky the Shark
Neredbojias wrote:
> Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Wed, 12 Sep 2007
> 18:10:26 GMT Blinky the Shark scribed:
>
>>> Since were on the subject of novels, did you ever happen to read
>>> anything by "Hodgson" or "Hudson"? Not gonna tell ya the titles
>>> (now). But good stuff.
>>
>> Doesn't ring any bells.
>
> William Hope Hodgson wrote "The House on the Borderland" and "The
> Night Land", 2 very gothicy, horrorish, and a bit science-fictiony
> mood novels. I suppose the writing could be criticized, but I
> consider them classics. (There's a bit of "Stephen King" flavour in
> them.)
No wonder I've not heard of him. I've never read a Stephen King book or
seen a film based on one.
> William Henry Hudson was a 19th century naturalist who wrote "Green
> Mansions", a story about a girl, the last surviving member of an
> ancient, gifted race, living alone in a South American rain forest.
> The tale was actually more or less about her encounter with a
> "civilized" modern man and her inter-relation with the temporal
> environment.
>
> Evidentally I read those novels at just about the right time in my
> life because they made a real impression. "Green Mansions" _is_
> acknowledged a true classic, and I recommend it highly.
Okay. Thanks.
About a half-hour ago I finished "Clashes: Air Combat Over North Vietnam
1965-1972".
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Re: Problem with "table" inside "p"
am 13.09.2007 10:46:42 von Blinky the Shark
Neredbojias wrote:
> Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Wed, 12 Sep 2007 22:17:45 GMT
> andrew scribed:
>
>>>> Hardy was kinda good, too, but I think a bit uneven in quality
>>>
>>> Did you say Hardy? I saw a gorgeous BBC version of Under The
>>> Greenwood Tree the other night.
>>
>> If you want to get _really_ depressed read Jude the Obscure.
>
> He he, yeah, I think I did and it was one of the ones I didn't like. But
> the pinacular novel on my all-time "depressing" list is "The Scarlet
> Letter". Oh, I liked the story as a plot; just reading Hawthorne's writing
> was like wading through an ocean of vaseline in a hurry to get to the
> dunny.
Hey, Jude
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Re: Problem with "table" inside "p"
am 13.09.2007 10:48:58 von Blinky the Shark
Neredbojias wrote:
> Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Thu, 13 Sep 2007
> 00:41:46 GMT Blinky the Shark scribed:
>
>>> Am I [OT] yet?
>>
>> No. I've read about 30 Greek plays. College. And, okay, last year
>> or so I read "Hippolytus". Again, probably. :)
>
> Big deal. I read "Hippopotamus" when I was 7.
Of course you did. That's the kids' version. And, by the way, Euripides
never authorized it.
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Re: Problem with "table" inside "p"
am 13.09.2007 11:26:17 von Andrew
On 2007-09-13, Neredbojias wrote:
> Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Wed, 12 Sep 2007 22:29:20 GMT
> andrew scribed:
[...]
> Now who in their right mind would trust a woman named "Clytemnestra"?
> 'Course, for that matter, who in their right mind would trust a woman?
>
> I'm not that well-versed in mythology because I always thought it (believe
> or not) too prurient. "The Aeneid" is my favorite ~grand classic~, and, of
> course, I've read "The Iliad" and "The Odyssey". A lot depends on the
> translation, though. Some Kirk Douglas movie from the '50s whose name I
> forgot but which is really "The Odyssey" tale is pretty good for cinema.
> Haven't seen "Troy" yet, but I purchased it recently.
Actually I have spent a small piece of my life learning the original
(Ancient Greek) so I don't have to depend on the translations. Which
is why Cassandra / Aeschylos / etc are at the top of my mind:
Aeschylos Agamemnon is set this semester and I am up to line 800 in
the Greek :-)
Andrew
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[OT: Book corner] was Re: Problem with "table" inside "p"
am 13.09.2007 16:00:48 von John Hosking
Blinky the Shark wrote:
> Neredbojias wrote:
>> William Hope Hodgson wrote "The House on the Borderland" and "The
>> Night Land", 2 very gothicy, horrorish, and a bit science-fictiony
>> mood novels. I suppose the writing could be criticized, but I
>> consider them classics. (There's a bit of "Stephen King" flavour in
>> them.)
>
> No wonder I've not heard of him. I've never read a Stephen King book or
> seen a film based on one.
What, no "Shawshank Redemption", "The Green Mile", "Stand by Me",
"Misery", or "The Shining"? Really not?
I know it's easy to avoid books by a certain author, but some of these
movies were huge, and they're always popping up on TV.
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Re: [OT: Book corner] was Re: Problem with "table" inside "p"
am 13.09.2007 20:02:06 von Blinky the Shark
John Hosking wrote:
> Blinky the Shark wrote:
>> Neredbojias wrote:
>
>>> William Hope Hodgson wrote "The House on the Borderland" and "The
>>> Night Land", 2 very gothicy, horrorish, and a bit science-fictiony
>>> mood novels. I suppose the writing could be criticized, but I
>>> consider them classics. (There's a bit of "Stephen King" flavour in
>>> them.)
>>
>> No wonder I've not heard of him. I've never read a Stephen King book
>> or seen a film based on one.
>
> What, no "Shawshank Redemption", "The Green Mile", "Stand by Me",
> "Misery", or "The Shining"? Really not?
That is correct. Really not.
> I know it's easy to avoid books by a certain author, but some of these
> movies were huge, and they're always popping up on TV.
So was "Titanic". Never cared about that, either. Or "Jaws",
ironically. Or "Rocky". I'm not very hype-driven.
This week, my Netflix watches were "Little Dieter Needs To Fly" and "The
Searchers".
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Re: Problem with "table" inside "p"
am 14.09.2007 00:44:25 von dorayme
In article
,
Neredbojias wrote:
> "The Aeneid" is my favorite ~grand classic~, and, of
> course, I've read "The Iliad" and "The Odyssey". A lot depends on the
> translation, though. Some Kirk Douglas movie from the '50s whose name I
> forgot but which is really "The Odyssey" tale is pretty good for cinema.
> Haven't seen "Troy" yet, but I purchased it recently.
Virgil's Aeneid was a main text in the subject of Latin which,
amazingly, I did for over 13 years a long time ago. I like seeing
the name mentioned. Mention it again any time you like.
That Troy film, the one with that Brad Pitt fellow (I can barely
stand him in anything) looks like a pile of concocted shit. You
bought it? Don't you have video hire places in America?
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Re: Problem with "table" inside "p"
am 14.09.2007 00:51:19 von dorayme
In article
,
Neredbojias wrote:
> Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Thu, 13 Sep 2007 00:41:46 GMT
> Blinky the Shark scribed:
>
> >> Am I [OT] yet?
> >
> > No. I've read about 30 Greek plays. College. And, okay, last year or
> > so I read "Hippolytus". Again, probably. :)
>
> Big deal. I read "Hippopotamus" when I was 7.
And I took my daughter to the best puppet show I have ever seen
at the Opera House called "The Mysterious Potamus" (great big
puppets, some filling the whole stage. It was about Leo the
Lion's search for one true friend. He had a very romantic idea.
He was helped along in his adventurous search by Hippo, his
"ordinary" friend. They together considered all sorts of
candidates. There was The Slope - too boring. There was The Snake
- too dangerous. Through all this, Hippos warned and guided and
helped Leo. Till it finally clicked in Leo's innocent head, his
one true friend was right there and had been faithfully with him
all along... da da!
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Re: Problem with "table" inside "p"
am 16.09.2007 13:00:32 von Neredbojias
Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Thu, 13 Sep 2007 08:45:14 GMT
Blinky the Shark scribed:
>> William Hope Hodgson wrote "The House on the Borderland" and "The
>> Night Land", 2 very gothicy, horrorish, and a bit science-fictiony
>> mood novels. I suppose the writing could be criticized, but I
>> consider them classics. (There's a bit of "Stephen King" flavour in
>> them.)
>
> No wonder I've not heard of him. I've never read a Stephen King book or
> seen a film based on one.
Are you one of them hermit sharks?
> About a half-hour ago I finished "Clashes: Air Combat Over North Vietnam
> 1965-1972".
Ain't read too many war stories. Actually, I can't think of a single one.
As for movies, I saw a _few_ good 'uns like "Platoon" and "Tora! Tora!
Tora!"
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Re: [OT: Book corner] was Re: Problem with "table" inside "p"
am 16.09.2007 13:03:13 von Neredbojias
Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Thu, 13 Sep 2007 18:02:06 GMT
Blinky the Shark scribed:
> This week, my Netflix watches were "Little Dieter Needs To Fly" and "The
> Searchers".
What a coincidence! Just the other day I read a critic on nudist campers
called "Little Dieter Needs A Fly"...
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Re: Problem with "table" inside "p"
am 16.09.2007 13:08:25 von Neredbojias
Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Thu, 13 Sep 2007 08:46:42
GMT Blinky the Shark scribed:
Oh, I liked the story as a plot; just reading
>> Hawthorne's writing was like wading through an ocean of vaseline in a
>> hurry to get to the dunny.
>
> Hey, Jude
> Don't be obscure
> Take an old song
> And make it famous
Hey Ju-oo-u-ooo-ude,
It is so poor
To whine and trill like
An ailing gibbon...
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Re: Problem with "table" inside "p"
am 16.09.2007 13:09:15 von Blinky the Shark
Neredbojias wrote:
> Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Thu, 13 Sep 2007
> 08:45:14 GMT Blinky the Shark scribed:
>
>>> William Hope Hodgson wrote "The House on the Borderland" and "The
>>> Night Land", 2 very gothicy, horrorish, and a bit science-fictiony
>>> mood novels. I suppose the writing could be criticized, but I
>>> consider them classics. (There's a bit of "Stephen King" flavour in
>>> them.)
>>
>> No wonder I've not heard of him. I've never read a Stephen King book
>> or seen a film based on one.
>
> Are you one of them hermit sharks?
>
>> About a half-hour ago I finished "Clashes: Air Combat Over North
>> Vietnam 1965-1972".
>
> Ain't read too many war stories. Actually, I can't think of a single
> one.
I rarely read any war stories, either. That one is analysis of the
effectiveness of training, tactics, formations, hardware, detection and
control, electronic countermeasures, weaponry, etc. About all I read
any more is history.
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Re: Problem with "table" inside "p"
am 16.09.2007 13:09:58 von Neredbojias
Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Wed, 12 Sep 2007 22:15:58 GMT
dorayme scribed:
> In article
> ,
> Neredbojias wrote:
>
>> Hardy was kinda good, too, but I think a bit uneven in quality
>
> Did you say Hardy? I saw a gorgeous BBC version of Under The
> Greenwood Tree the other night.
Don't remember that one but it sounds seductive.
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Re: [OT: Book corner] was Re: Problem with "table" inside "p"
am 16.09.2007 13:11:02 von Blinky the Shark
Neredbojias wrote:
> Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Thu, 13 Sep 2007 18:02:06 GMT
> Blinky the Shark scribed:
>
>> This week, my Netflix watches were "Little Dieter Needs To Fly" and "The
>> Searchers".
>
> What a coincidence! Just the other day I read a critic on nudist campers
> called "Little Dieter Needs A Fly"...
Now, I'd have thought with that title it was about a hungry young frog.
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Re: Problem with "table" inside "p"
am 16.09.2007 13:13:15 von Neredbojias
Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Thu, 13 Sep 2007 08:48:58 GMT
Blinky the Shark scribed:
>>> No. I've read about 30 Greek plays. College. And, okay, last year
>>> or so I read "Hippolytus". Again, probably. :)
>>
>> Big deal. I read "Hippopotamus" when I was 7.
>
> Of course you did. That's the kids' version. And, by the way, Euripides
> never authorized it.
He he, he always reminded me of the proverbial Italian father:
"Hey, Frankie, you-rippa-dese pants again I'm-a gonna bop you upside the
head."
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Re: Problem with "table" inside "p"
am 16.09.2007 13:16:22 von Neredbojias
Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Thu, 13 Sep 2007 22:51:19
GMT dorayme scribed:
>> Big deal. I read "Hippopotamus" when I was 7.
>
> And I took my daughter to the best puppet show I have ever seen
> at the Opera House called "The Mysterious Potamus" (great big
> puppets, some filling the whole stage. It was about Leo the
> Lion's search for one true friend. He had a very romantic idea.
> He was helped along in his adventurous search by Hippo, his
> "ordinary" friend. They together considered all sorts of
> candidates. There was The Slope - too boring. There was The Snake
> - too dangerous. Through all this, Hippos warned and guided and
> helped Leo. Till it finally clicked in Leo's innocent head, his
> one true friend was right there and had been faithfully with him
> all along... da da!
I get the point, but if you had a hippopotamus for a best friend, you might
want to look elsewhere, too.
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Re: Problem with "table" inside "p"
am 16.09.2007 13:20:56 von Neredbojias
Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Thu, 13 Sep 2007 09:26:17
GMT andrew scribed:
>>Haven't seen "Troy" yet, but I purchased
>> it recently.
>
> Actually I have spent a small piece of my life learning the original
> (Ancient Greek) so I don't have to depend on the translations. Which
> is why Cassandra / Aeschylos / etc are at the top of my mind:
> Aeschylos Agamemnon is set this semester and I am up to line 800 in
> the Greek :-)
It must be great knowing another language (even if it's dead.) 'Tried
learning a coupla live ones once (French and Pig), and I was at least half
successful.
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Re: Problem with "table" inside "p"
am 16.09.2007 13:28:08 von Neredbojias
Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Thu, 13 Sep 2007 22:44:25
GMT dorayme scribed:
>> "The Aeneid" is my favorite ~grand classic~, and, of
>> course, I've read "The Iliad" and "The Odyssey". A lot depends on
>> the translation, though. Some Kirk Douglas movie from the '50s whose
>> name I forgot but which is really "The Odyssey" tale is pretty good
>> for cinema. Haven't seen "Troy" yet, but I purchased it recently.
>
> Virgil's Aeneid was a main text in the subject of Latin which,
> amazingly, I did for over 13 years a long time ago. I like seeing
> the name mentioned. Mention it again any time you like.
You took 13 years of Latin...? Then surely you can understand it. I took
2 and we (tried to) read little pieces of the original-text "Aeneid" in
class sometimes. Unfortunately, my mind was usually on the legs of the
girl who sat across from me whenever this occurred.
> That Troy film, the one with that Brad Pitt fellow (I can barely
> stand him in anything) looks like a pile of concocted shit. You
> bought it? Don't you have video hire places in America?
We do, but at ~$4.00 a pop, it gets my goat. Often a purchase-price is so
(relatively) low, I just buy the damn thing. Troy was $9.99.
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Re: Problem with "table" inside "p"
am 16.09.2007 19:06:31 von Blinky the Shark
Neredbojias wrote:
> Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Thu, 13 Sep 2007 08:48:58 GMT
> Blinky the Shark scribed:
>
>>>> No. I've read about 30 Greek plays. College. And, okay, last year
>>>> or so I read "Hippolytus". Again, probably. :)
>>>
>>> Big deal. I read "Hippopotamus" when I was 7.
>>
>> Of course you did. That's the kids' version. And, by the way, Euripides
>> never authorized it.
>
> He he, he always reminded me of the proverbial Italian father:
>
> "Hey, Frankie, you-rippa-dese pants again I'm-a gonna bop you upside the
> head."
Q. British ships are called HMS [Whatever]; US ships use the prefix
USS. What prefix do Italian ships use?
A. AMB
Q. What does that mean?
A. 'Ats-a My Boat
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Re: Problem with "table" inside "p"
am 17.09.2007 00:24:26 von dorayme
In article
,
Neredbojias wrote:
> Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Thu, 13 Sep 2007 08:45:14 GMT
> Blinky the Shark scribed:
>
> >> William Hope Hodgson wrote "The House on the Borderland" and "The
> >> Night Land", 2 very gothicy, horrorish, and a bit science-fictiony
> >> mood novels. I suppose the writing could be criticized, but I
> >> consider them classics. (There's a bit of "Stephen King" flavour in
> >> them.)
> >
> > No wonder I've not heard of him. I've never read a Stephen King book or
> > seen a film based on one.
>
> Are you one of them hermit sharks?
>
Stephen King is not even a third rate writer. He has an
unpleasant imagination, unpleasant interests and writes
accordingly. Tell Blinky, he is not missing anything.
> > About a half-hour ago I finished "Clashes: Air Combat Over North Vietnam
> > 1965-1972".
>
> Ain't read too many war stories. Actually, I can't think of a single one.
> As for movies, I saw a _few_ good 'uns like "Platoon" and "Tora! Tora!
> Tora!"
Compare Tora with that awful dross of the modern Pearl Harbour (I
lasted 21 mins in this latest "version"). Tora was a good old
fashioned competent Hollywood film. The latest was not a war
story but a sickening TV soapie...
Platoon was good.
--
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Re: Problem with "table" inside "p"
am 17.09.2007 00:26:06 von dorayme
In article
,
Neredbojias wrote:
> Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Thu, 13 Sep 2007 22:51:19
> GMT dorayme scribed:
>
>
> >> Big deal. I read "Hippopotamus" when I was 7.
> >
> > And I took my daughter to the best puppet show I have ever seen
> > at the Opera House called "The Mysterious Potamus" (great big
> > puppets, some filling the whole stage. It was about Leo the
> > Lion's search for one true friend. He had a very romantic idea.
> > He was helped along in his adventurous search by Hippo, his
> > "ordinary" friend. They together considered all sorts of
> > candidates. There was The Slope - too boring. There was The Snake
> > - too dangerous. Through all this, Hippos warned and guided and
> > helped Leo. Till it finally clicked in Leo's innocent head, his
> > one true friend was right there and had been faithfully with him
> > all along... da da!
>
> I get the point, but if you had a hippopotamus for a best friend, you might
> want to look elsewhere, too.
can i call you Leo from now on then?
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Re: Problem with "table" inside "p"
am 17.09.2007 00:30:31 von dorayme
Neredbojias wrote:
> GMT dorayme scribed:
>
> > You
> > bought it? Don't you have video hire places in America?
>
> We do, but at ~$4.00 a pop, it gets my goat. Often a purchase-price is so
> (relatively) low, I just buy the damn thing. Troy was $9.99.
Here in Sydney, one can hire them for a week on Thursdays for
$1.10 (the 10 cents is for the Goods and Services Tax).
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Re: [OT: Book corner] was Re: Problem with "table" inside "p"
am 17.09.2007 05:00:32 von Neredbojias
Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Sun, 16 Sep 2007 11:11:02
GMT Blinky the Shark scribed:
>>> This week, my Netflix watches were "Little Dieter Needs To Fly" and
>>> "The Searchers".
>>
>> What a coincidence! Just the other day I read a critic on nudist
>> campers called "Little Dieter Needs A Fly"...
>
> Now, I'd have thought with that title it was about a hungry young
> frog.
I think it started out that way, but the damn frog kissed a princess, said
"I do," and was ruined for life from that day on... Hopefully only a fairy
tale.
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Re: Problem with "table" inside "p"
am 17.09.2007 05:05:18 von Neredbojias
Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Sun, 16 Sep 2007 11:09:15 GMT
Blinky the Shark scribed:
>>> About a half-hour ago I finished "Clashes: Air Combat Over North
>>> Vietnam 1965-1972".
>>
>> Ain't read too many war stories. Actually, I can't think of a single
>> one.
>
> I rarely read any war stories, either. That one is analysis of the
> effectiveness of training, tactics, formations, hardware, detection and
> control, electronic countermeasures, weaponry, etc. About all I read
> any more is history.
Be ye a history buff? I had a real interest in world history which has
waned slightly over the years, but the schools made U.S. history just too
staid. Read a few books about the dawn of various (non-Egyptian) societies
which I liked though they could be quite dry in parts sometimes. Always
wondered not only where I came from but where "we" came from.
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Re: Problem with "table" inside "p"
am 17.09.2007 05:14:06 von Neredbojias
Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Sun, 16 Sep 2007 22:24:26
GMT dorayme scribed:
>> > No wonder I've not heard of him. I've never read a Stephen King
>> > book or seen a film based on one.
>>
>> Are you one of them hermit sharks?
>>
>
> Stephen King is not even a third rate writer. He has an
> unpleasant imagination, unpleasant interests and writes
> accordingly. Tell Blinky, he is not missing anything.
Are you serious? I'll admit he's inconsistent, but he's also written
some of the best stuff I've read, -especially his early works. There is
an early short story entitled "Mrs. 's Shortcut" which is
worthy of a Pulitzer.
>> > About a half-hour ago I finished "Clashes: Air Combat Over North
>> > Vietnam 1965-1972".
>>
>> Ain't read too many war stories. Actually, I can't think of a single
>> one. As for movies, I saw a _few_ good 'uns like "Platoon" and
>> "Tora! Tora! Tora!"
>
> Compare Tora with that awful dross of the modern Pearl Harbour (I
> lasted 21 mins in this latest "version"). Tora was a good old
> fashioned competent Hollywood film. The latest was not a war
> story but a sickening TV soapie...
Yeah, I thought that might be the case. Didn't see it and probably won't
now
> Platoon was good.
It was, but my fav Oliver Stone flick is still "Salvador". (I think I
said that before here, too.) James Woods was fantastic, and ol' Jim
Balushi didn't do too bad, either. The supporting cast also performed
greatly.
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Re: Problem with "table" inside "p"
am 17.09.2007 05:20:06 von Neredbojias
Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Sun, 16 Sep 2007 17:06:31
GMT Blinky the Shark scribed:
>> "Hey, Frankie, you-rippa-dese pants again I'm-a gonna bop you upside
>> the head."
>
> Q. British ships are called HMS [Whatever]; US ships use the prefix
> USS. What prefix do Italian ships use?
>
> A. AMB
>
> Q. What does that mean?
>
> A. 'Ats-a My Boat
I hear Australians use TUB - "The Ubiquitous Barque".
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Re: Problem with "table" inside "p"
am 17.09.2007 05:22:20 von Neredbojias
Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Sun, 16 Sep 2007 22:26:06
GMT dorayme scribed:
>> I get the point, but if you had a hippopotamus for a best friend, you
>> might want to look elsewhere, too.
>
> can i call you Leo from now on then?
You can call me Ray or you can call me Jay or you can call me Johnny or you
can call me Sonny or you can call me Ipswich but you oughter not calls me
late for dinner.
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Re: Problem with "table" inside "p"
am 17.09.2007 05:24:29 von Neredbojias
Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Sun, 16 Sep 2007 22:30:31
GMT dorayme scribed:
> Neredbojias wrote:
>
>> GMT dorayme scribed:
>>
>> > You
>> > bought it? Don't you have video hire places in America?
>>
>> We do, but at ~$4.00 a pop, it gets my goat. Often a purchase-price
>> is so (relatively) low, I just buy the damn thing. Troy was $9.99.
>
> Here in Sydney, one can hire them for a week on Thursdays for
> $1.10 (the 10 cents is for the Goods and Services Tax).
Yeah, that's reasonable. Rental prices are inflated over here, ergo, I
rent little. Americans are basically stupid; you should know that...
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Re: Problem with "table" inside "p"
am 17.09.2007 09:45:27 von Blinky the Shark
Neredbojias wrote:
> Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Sun, 16 Sep 2007
> 11:09:15 GMT Blinky the Shark scribed:
>
>>>> About a half-hour ago I finished "Clashes: Air Combat Over
>>>> North Vietnam 1965-1972".
>>>
>>> Ain't read too many war stories. Actually, I can't think of a
>>> single one.
>>
>> I rarely read any war stories, either. That one is analysis of
>> the effectiveness of training, tactics, formations, hardware,
>> detection and control, electronic countermeasures, weaponry,
>> etc. About all I read any more is history.
>
> Be ye a history buff? I had a real interest in world history
> which has waned slightly over the years, but the schools made
> U.S. history just too staid. Read a few books about the dawn of
> various (non-Egyptian) societies which I liked though they could
> be quite dry in parts sometimes. Always wondered not only where
> I came from but where "we" came from.
I enjoy reading history and certainly have become more interested
in it as I've gotten older. I'm no perfessor, granted. :) As
for ancient, I recently read http://tinyurl.com/2o3ea9 . I took
Greek drama and archaeology back in college. Even back in public
school I kinda liked history but I spent more time with the
sciences, through physics -- which was my favorite.
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Re: Problem with "table" inside "p"
am 17.09.2007 14:11:23 von Neredbojias
Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Mon, 17 Sep 2007 07:45:27 GMT
Blinky the Shark scribed:
>> Be ye a history buff? I had a real interest in world history
>> which has waned slightly over the years, but the schools made
>> U.S. history just too staid. Read a few books about the dawn of
>> various (non-Egyptian) societies which I liked though they could
>> be quite dry in parts sometimes. Always wondered not only where
>> I came from but where "we" came from.
>
> I enjoy reading history and certainly have become more interested
> in it as I've gotten older. I'm no perfessor, granted. :) As
> for ancient, I recently read http://tinyurl.com/2o3ea9 . I took
> Greek drama and archaeology back in college. Even back in public
> school I kinda liked history but I spent more time with the
> sciences, through physics -- which was my favorite.
Looks pretty good but the price overwhelms me. I remember buying books
like that for $2.95....and today's 7-8 dollar novels for $0.35. As fer
history, I guess I really don't know much about it myself, and physics
makes me whiz, so I think I'll stick to what I know best: tic-tac-toe. I'm
unbeatable at tic-tac-toe.
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[OT: Book corner II] was Re: Problem with "table" inside "p"
am 17.09.2007 18:14:09 von John Hosking
Neredbojias wrote:
> Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Sun, 16 Sep 2007 22:24:26
> GMT dorayme scribed:
>
>> Stephen King is not even a third rate writer. He has an
>> unpleasant imagination, unpleasant interests and writes
>> accordingly. Tell Blinky, he is not missing anything.
>
> Are you serious? I'll admit he's inconsistent, but he's also written
> some of the best stuff I've read, -especially his early works. There is
> an early short story entitled "Mrs. 's Shortcut" which is
> worthy of a Pulitzer.
"Mrs. Todd's Shortcut" from his collection _Skeleton Crew_. Some of his
short stories are excellent.
>> Compare Tora with that awful dross of the modern Pearl Harbour (I
>> lasted 21 mins in this latest "version"). Tora was a good old
>> fashioned competent Hollywood film. The latest was not a war
>> story but a sickening TV soapie...
>
> Yeah, I thought that might be the case. Didn't see it and probably won't
> now
Bruckheimer's Pearl Harbor? It's not a bad movie to watch if your brain
is in the shop for service or something.
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Re: Problem with "table" inside "p"
am 17.09.2007 22:07:24 von Blinky the Shark
Neredbojias wrote:
> 07:45:27 GMT Blinky the Shark scribed:
>> granted. :) As for ancient, I recently read
>> http://tinyurl.com/2o3ea9 . I took Greek drama and archaeology
>> back in college. Even back in public school I kinda liked
>> history but I spent more time with the sciences, through
>> physics -- which was my favorite.
>
> Looks pretty good but the price overwhelms me. I remember
> buying books like that for $2.95....and today's 7-8 dollar
Trade format textbooks of 700 pages for $2.95? I'm 60 and don't.
You must be about 200. :)
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Re: Problem with "table" inside "p"
am 18.09.2007 04:34:43 von Neredbojias
Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Mon, 17 Sep 2007 20:07:24 GMT
Blinky the Shark scribed:
> Neredbojias wrote:
>
>> 07:45:27 GMT Blinky the Shark scribed:
>
>>> granted. :) As for ancient, I recently read
>>> http://tinyurl.com/2o3ea9 . I took Greek drama and archaeology
>>> back in college. Even back in public school I kinda liked
>>> history but I spent more time with the sciences, through
>>> physics -- which was my favorite.
>>
>> Looks pretty good but the price overwhelms me. I remember
>> buying books like that for $2.95....and today's 7-8 dollar
>
> Trade format textbooks of 700 pages for $2.95? I'm 60 and don't.
> You must be about 200. :)
Hell, sometimes I feel like 300. You're only 60, huh? I would've guessed
more just by your manifest irascibility. Still, 60 makes a fish long in
the tooth if not in the fin... Have you been dwelling upon the can lately?
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Re: [OT: Book corner II] was Re: Problem with "table" inside "p"
am 18.09.2007 04:46:41 von Neredbojias
Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Mon, 17 Sep 2007 16:14:09
GMT John Hosking scribed:
>> Are you serious? I'll admit he's inconsistent, but he's also written
>> some of the best stuff I've read, -especially his early works. There
>> is an early short story entitled "Mrs. 's Shortcut" which
>> is worthy of a Pulitzer.
>
> "Mrs. Todd's Shortcut" from his collection _Skeleton Crew_. Some of
> his short stories are excellent.
I originally bought and read that about when it came out - in the '60s or
'70s, whenever. Then I re-purchased it in the mid '90s, mostly for the
"Mrs. Todd's Shortcut" story, but lent it to this girl, who, of course,
never gave it back, the bitch. Fortunately, I'd re-read all the stories
before my ill-advised altruism. Never trust a female.
>>> Compare Tora with that awful dross of the modern Pearl Harbour (I
>>> lasted 21 mins in this latest "version"). Tora was a good old
>>> fashioned competent Hollywood film. The latest was not a war
>>> story but a sickening TV soapie...
>>
>> Yeah, I thought that might be the case. Didn't see it and probably
>> won't now
>
> Bruckheimer's Pearl Harbor? It's not a bad movie to watch if your
> brain is in the shop for service or something.
Bruckheimer did it? Ah, he's okay sometimes, but I think more of a fad
than a real lasting talent. They come and they go, but truly worthy
artists endure.
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Re: Problem with "table" inside "p"
am 18.09.2007 05:33:19 von Blinky the Shark
Neredbojias wrote:
> Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Mon, 17 Sep 2007
> 20:07:24 GMT Blinky the Shark scribed:
>
>> Neredbojias wrote:
>>
>>> 07:45:27 GMT Blinky the Shark scribed:
>>
>>>> granted. :) As for ancient, I recently read
>>>> http://tinyurl.com/2o3ea9 . I took Greek drama and
>>>> archaeology back in college. Even back in public school I
>>>> kinda liked history but I spent more time with the sciences,
>>>> through physics -- which was my favorite.
>>>
>>> Looks pretty good but the price overwhelms me. I remember
>>> buying books like that for $2.95....and today's 7-8 dollar
>>
>> Trade format textbooks of 700 pages for $2.95? I'm 60 and
>> don't. You must be about 200. :)
>
> Hell, sometimes I feel like 300. You're only 60, huh? I
> would've guessed more just by your manifest irascibility.
> Still, 60 makes a fish long in the tooth if not in the fin...
> Have you been dwelling upon the can lately?
Sharks don't use the can. Essentially, sharks live in the
metaphorical can; and you wonder why our attitudes are
occasionally shitty?
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Re: Problem with "table" inside "p"
am 18.09.2007 05:52:53 von Neredbojias
Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Tue, 18 Sep 2007 03:33:19 GMT
Blinky the Shark scribed:
>> Hell, sometimes I feel like 300. You're only 60, huh? I
>> would've guessed more just by your manifest irascibility.
>> Still, 60 makes a fish long in the tooth if not in the fin...
>> Have you been dwelling upon the can lately?
>
> Sharks don't use the can. Essentially, sharks live in the
> metaphorical can; and you wonder why our attitudes are
> occasionally shitty?
Well, "wonder" may be a little strong of a word for my synoptical activity
regarding either a shark's habits or a shark's habitat. I _do_
occasionally get a bit of a prurient thrill over certain piscene reactions,
but I think it's just the testosterone at work. Sexagenerianism doesn't
necessarily dictate penile atrophication, although some would say the
foreplay deteriorates geometrically to the fin age.
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