Quicktime framing video

Hi,

I'm not an HTML professional, so not using css files, just doing a very
basic (and quick) page to show my brother's showreel.

The page looks good, but Firefox and IE's rendering of the page is
different. IE frame's the embedded quicktime movie with a white line at
the top and bottom, is there a way to stop this? I can't find an element
in Apple's docs that does this, but maybe you gurus can advise me.

These 2 screen caps of the page, Firefox first then IE, show what I mean
by the framing of the video in IE.

http://fileserver1.jpghosting.com/images/Firefox_Cap_03089fa aad2f89be58ca33b5c85c5061.jpg

http://fileserver1.jpghosting.com/images/IE_Cap_e42701eac8ff d47d33361054e9a9588f.jpg

Many thanks,

MS

Re: Quicktime framing video

MS wrote:

> I'm not an HTML professional, so not using css files, just doing a
> very basic (and quick) page to show my brother's showreel.

One does not have to be a professional to use CSS.

> The page looks good, but Firefox and IE's rendering of the page is
> different.

So what else is new? :-)

And you will never get pixel-perfect precision across different
browsers. It doesn't really matter, either, as none of your visitors
will be using multiple browsers to view your page. Only us developers do
that.

> IE frame's the embedded quicktime movie with a white line
> at the top and bottom, is there a way to stop this? I can't find an
> element in Apple's docs that does this, but maybe you gurus can
> advise me.

Perhaps if you were to post the link to the page in question, someone
could advise what may be necessary. It's probably just a simple margin
or padding oversight.

--
-bts
-Motorcycles defy gravity; cars just suck

Re: Quicktime framing video

Beauregard T. Shagnasty emailed this:
> MS wrote:
>
>> I'm not an HTML professional, so not using css files, just doing a
>> very basic (and quick) page to show my brother's showreel.
>
> One does not have to be a professional to use CSS.
>
>> The page looks good, but Firefox and IE's rendering of the page is
>> different.
>
> So what else is new? :-)
>
> And you will never get pixel-perfect precision across different
> browsers. It doesn't really matter, either, as none of your visitors
> will be using multiple browsers to view your page. Only us developers do
> that.
>
>> IE frame's the embedded quicktime movie with a white line
>> at the top and bottom, is there a way to stop this? I can't find an
>> element in Apple's docs that does this, but maybe you gurus can
>> advise me.
>
> Perhaps if you were to post the link to the page in question, someone
> could advise what may be necessary. It's probably just a simple margin
> or padding oversight.

Thanks for your reply, and apologies I should have included the link.
About the css, it's not that only proffs can use them, just that I've not
used them ever and simply don't have the time the learn now - it's just a
quick'n'dirty page before his website gets professionally done.

Link is here: http://www.i-dig.info/dop/index.html

Thanks again.

Re: Quicktime framing video

MS wrote:

> Beauregard T. Shagnasty [emailed^Wposted] this:
>> MS wrote:
>>> IE frame's the embedded quicktime movie with a white line at the top
>>> and bottom, is there a way to stop this? I can't find an element in
>>> Apple's docs that does this, but maybe you gurus can advise me.
>>
>> Perhaps if you were to post the link to the page in question,
>> someone could advise what may be necessary. It's probably just a
>> simple margin or padding oversight.
>
> Thanks for your reply, and apologies I should have included the link.
> About the css, it's not that only proffs can use them, just that I've
> not used them ever and simply don't have the time the learn now -
> it's just a quick'n'dirty page before his website gets professionally
> done.

So then if it really is just a 'quick'n'dirty' page, why does the little
white border matter? :-)

> Link is here: http://www.i-dig.info/dop/index.html

By correcting one of the errors, I have made your page identical in IE6
and Firefox. I added the required '#' to your background color code:

src="http://www.i-dig.info/dop/showreel.mov"
bgcolor="#FFFFFF" border="0"
...........^

Different browsers compensate for errors in different ways. You may want
to look into the rest of the errors:

http://validator.w3.org/check?verbose=1&uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww .i-dig.info%2Fdop%2Findex.html

--
-bts
-Motorcycles defy gravity; cars just suck

Re: Quicktime framing video

Beauregard T. Shagnasty emailed this:
>
> So then if it really is just a 'quick'n'dirty' page, why does the little
> white border matter? :-)

It doesn't to me, my brother complained about it so I said I'd fix it and
then couldn't work out how.


>> Link is here: http://www.i-dig.info/dop/index.html
>
> By correcting one of the errors, I have made your page identical in IE6
> and Firefox. I added the required '#' to your background color code:
>
> > src="http://www.i-dig.info/dop/showreel.mov"
> bgcolor="#FFFFFF" border="0"
> ..........^
>
> Different browsers compensate for errors in different ways. You may want
> to look into the rest of the errors:
>
> http://validator.w3.org/check?verbose=1&uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww .i-dig.info%2Fdop%2Findex.html

Thanks for the help and the validator link, so many errors in so small a page!

Changing border=n to various values (0..5) does not seem to make any
difference, oh well.

Cheers.

Re: Quicktime framing video

MS wrote:

> Beauregard T. Shagnasty emailed^WPOSTED this:
>>
>> So then if it really is just a 'quick'n'dirty' page, why does the
>> little white border matter? :-)
>
> It doesn't to me, my brother complained about it so I said I'd fix it
> and then couldn't work out how.

Picky, isn't he?

>>> Link is here: http://www.i-dig.info/dop/index.html
>>
>> By correcting one of the errors, I have made your page identical in
>> IE6 and Firefox. I added the required '#' to your background color
>> code:
>>
>> >> src="http://www.i-dig.info/dop/showreel.mov"
>> bgcolor="#FFFFFF" border="0"
>> ..........^
>>
>> Different browsers compensate for errors in different ways. You may want
>> to look into the rest of the errors:
>>
>> http://validator.w3.org/check?verbose=1&uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww .i-dig.info%2Fdop%2Findex.html
>
> Thanks for the help and the validator link, so many errors in so small
> a page!

If you want to try a tutorial on constructing error-free pages, have a
look at this one:
http://htmldog.com/

> Changing border=n to various values (0..5) does not seem to make any
> difference, oh well.

Looking at your link again, all I see now is the quicktime movie. There
appears to no longer be any HTML in the page. The visible source is just
binary code. Did you add the "#" sign to the bgcolor color code,
correcting that error, and try it? #FFFFFF ?

--
-bts
-Motorcycles defy gravity; cars just suck

Re: Quicktime framing video

Beauregard T. Shagnasty emailed this:
> MS wrote:
>
>> Beauregard T. Shagnasty emailed^WPOSTED this:
>>> So then if it really is just a 'quick'n'dirty' page, why does the
>>> little white border matter? :-)
>> It doesn't to me, my brother complained about it so I said I'd fix it
>> and then couldn't work out how.
>
> Picky, isn't he?

YES (I resisted the urge to ask just who is doing who a favour).


>>>> Link is here: http://www.i-dig.info/dop/index.html
>>> By correcting one of the errors, I have made your page identical in
>>> IE6 and Firefox. I added the required '#' to your background color
>>> code:
>>>
>>> >>> src="http://www.i-dig.info/dop/showreel.mov"
>>> bgcolor="#FFFFFF" border="0"
>>> ..........^
>>>
>>> Different browsers compensate for errors in different ways. You may want
>>> to look into the rest of the errors:
>>>
>>> http://validator.w3.org/check?verbose=1&uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww .i-dig.info%2Fdop%2Findex.html
>> Thanks for the help and the validator link, so many errors in so small
>> a page!
>
> If you want to try a tutorial on constructing error-free pages, have a
> look at this one:
> http://htmldog.com/

Okay, thanks.


>> Changing border=n to various values (0..5) does not seem to make any
>> difference, oh well.
>
> Looking at your link again, all I see now is the quicktime movie. There
> appears to no longer be any HTML in the page. The visible source is just
> binary code. Did you add the "#" sign to the bgcolor color code,
> correcting that error, and try it? #FFFFFF ?

Yes I added the '#', and using the validator fixed some errors.

The page looks fine to me in Firefox and in IE. I changed a few characters
too in order to check I wasn't viewing a cached version.

Will you take another look please?

Many thanks for all your help.

Re: Quicktime framing video

MS wrote:

> Beauregard T. Shagnasty emailed [no, he posted] this:
>> Looking at your link again, all I see now is the quicktime movie. There
>> appears to no longer be any HTML in the page. The visible source is just
>> binary code.

Oops, the above was my error; I clicked the direct link to the .mov
file...

>> Did you add the "#" sign to the bgcolor color code,
>> correcting that error, and try it? #FFFFFF ?
>
> Yes I added the '#', and using the validator fixed some errors.
>
> The page looks fine to me in Firefox and in IE. I changed a few characters
> too in order to check I wasn't viewing a cached version.
>
> Will you take another look please?

Firefox has the white border top and bottom now.

Try adding: style="margin:0; padding:0;"
to the
and/or maybe to the tag as well.

--
-bts
-Motorcycles defy gravity; cars just suck

Re: Quicktime framing video

> Oops, the above was my error; I clicked the direct link to the .mov
> file...

Pheww. You had me worried there. :-)


>>> Did you add the "#" sign to the bgcolor color code,
>>> correcting that error, and try it? #FFFFFF ?
>> Yes I added the '#', and using the validator fixed some errors.
>>
>> The page looks fine to me in Firefox and in IE. I changed a few characters
>> too in order to check I wasn't viewing a cached version.
>>
>> Will you take another look please?
>
> Firefox has the white border top and bottom now.
>
> Try adding: style="margin:0; padding:0;"
> to the >
> and/or maybe to the tag as well.

No joy. Oh well. Many thanks again.

Regards, etc..

Re: Quicktime framing video

In article ,
MS wrote:

> > Oops, the above was my error; I clicked the direct link to the .mov
> > file...
>
> Pheww. You had me worried there. :-)
>
>
> >>> Did you add the "#" sign to the bgcolor color code,
> >>> correcting that error, and try it? #FFFFFF ?
> >> Yes I added the '#', and using the validator fixed some errors.
> >>
> >> The page looks fine to me in Firefox and in IE. I changed a few characters
> >> too in order to check I wasn't viewing a cached version.
> >>
> >> Will you take another look please?
> >
> > Firefox has the white border top and bottom now.
> >

Why, quite, would you have: bgcolor="#FFFFFF" instead of
....#000000?

> > Try adding: style="margin:0; padding:0;"
> > to the > >
> > and/or maybe to the tag as well.
>
> No joy. Oh well. Many thanks again.
>

With your bg as white in the embed, changing the dims for the
embed to height="528" helps to remove the white line. But
anyway...

Tell your brother I liked the unattached legs walking. I take a
dog for a walk regularly who has a very nice walking style, am
often struck by the legs and have been meaning to make a film of
it with just those 4, the body gone.

--
dorayme

Re: Quicktime framing video

> With your bg as white in the embed, changing the dims for the
> embed to height="528" helps to remove the white line. But
> anyway...
>
> Tell your brother I liked the unattached legs walking. I take a
> dog for a walk regularly who has a very nice walking style, am
> often struck by the legs and have been meaning to make a film of
> it with just those 4, the body gone.

Thanks for the advise. I've now told him to 'live with it', actually I
like the white line and think it frames the video nicely.

I like the unattached legs too. You should do that with your dog, I've not
seen that done with an animal's body part before, many times in one shape
or form with a human, but not an animal - in a medium like film
originality is now hard to come by, go for it.

Regards,

MS