Again: "License" of ca-bundle.crt

Hello,

I am packaging sole ca-bundle.crt for Fink.
http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=928 157&group_id=17203&atid=414256

Fink package system has "License" field. I must fill it. What is the
"license" of sole ca-bundle.crt? Mod_ssl license? Or nothing like
"license"?

I sent before but no response except "vacation". Before clarifying it
I can't take any action.
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Re: Again: "License" of ca-bundle.crt

On Thu, Jun 17, 2004 at 05:09:31AM +0900, AIDA Shinra wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I am packaging sole ca-bundle.crt for Fink.
> http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=928 157&group_id=17203&atid=414256
>
> Fink package system has "License" field. I must fill it. What is the
> "license" of sole ca-bundle.crt? Mod_ssl license? Or nothing like
> "license"?

It's a tricky legal question, I think.

The original source of the ca-bundle.crt was a database shipped with the
Netscape browser. It's possible to derive a new ca-bundle.crt from the
Mozilla source code, which is what Debian do in their ca-certificates
package. Debian say that the resultant CA certificate bundle is
licensed under the MPL, as its source in Mozilla is.

But can a database be copyrighted? Can a database made up of copies of
necessarily-public CA certificates published by third parties be
copyrighted? It is somewhat lacking in "originality", which is one of
the requirements for US copyright law to apply, at least.

You may be better of asking a lawyer, unfortunately!

joe
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RE: Again: "License" of ca-bundle.crt

> > -----Message d'origine-----
> > De : owner-modssl-users@modssl.org
> > Envoyé : mercredi 16 juin 2004 22:27
> > À : AIDA Shinra
> > Cc : modssl-users@modssl.org
> > Objet : Re: Again: "License" of ca-bundle.crt
> >=20
> >=20
> > On Thu, Jun 17, 2004 at 05:09:31AM +0900, AIDA Shinra wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > >=20
> > > I am packaging sole ca-bundle.crt for Fink.
> > >=20
> > =
http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=3Ddetail&aid=3 D928157&gr
> oup_id=3D17203&atid=3D414256
> >=20
> > Fink package system has "License" field. I must fill it. What is the
> > "license" of sole ca-bundle.crt? Mod_ssl license? Or nothing like
> > "license"?
>=20
> It's a tricky legal question, I think.
>=20
> The original source of the ca-bundle.crt was a database shipped with =
the
> Netscape browser. It's possible to derive a new ca-bundle.crt from =
the
> Mozilla source code, which is what Debian do in their ca-certificates
> package. Debian say that the resultant CA certificate bundle is
> licensed under the MPL, as its source in Mozilla is.
>=20
> But can a database be copyrighted? Can a database made up of copies =
of
> necessarily-public CA certificates published by third parties be
> copyrighted? It is somewhat lacking in "originality", which is one of
> the requirements for US copyright law to apply, at least.
>=20
> You may be better of asking a lawyer, unfortunately!
>=20
> joe

I am not american, but if I remember correctly, as an american you can
copyright a database. The length is 20, 25 or 50 years protection but I =
don't=20
remember.
And Yes, you can copyright a database with certificates as you can =
copyright
a database with the name of those who live in your town. It is not =
because=20
the datas are public that the database can't be copyrighted...

Thierry

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RE: Again: "License" of ca-bundle.crt

Yes, without equivocation, databases can be protected by copyright. I =
do agree with Joe about the originality and creativity requirement, =
since this is necessary public information.

Much better information:
http://www.bitlaw.com/copyright/database.html

Kind Regards,
-dsp

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-modssl-users@modssl.org
> [mailto:owner-modssl-users@modssl.org]On Behalf Of Joe Orton
> Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2004 4:27 PM
> To: AIDA Shinra
> Cc: modssl-users@modssl.org
> Subject: Re: Again: "License" of ca-bundle.crt
>=20
>=20
> On Thu, Jun 17, 2004 at 05:09:31AM +0900, AIDA Shinra wrote:
> > Hello,
> >=20
> > I am packaging sole ca-bundle.crt for Fink.
> >=20
> http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=3Ddetail&aid=3 D928157&gr
> oup_id=3D17203&atid=3D414256
> >=20
> > Fink package system has "License" field. I must fill it. What is the
> > "license" of sole ca-bundle.crt? Mod_ssl license? Or nothing like
> > "license"?
>=20
> It's a tricky legal question, I think.
>=20
> The original source of the ca-bundle.crt was a database shipped with =
the
> Netscape browser. It's possible to derive a new ca-bundle.crt from =
the
> Mozilla source code, which is what Debian do in their ca-certificates
> package. Debian say that the resultant CA certificate bundle is
> licensed under the MPL, as its source in Mozilla is.
>=20
> But can a database be copyrighted? Can a database made up of copies =
of
> necessarily-public CA certificates published by third parties be
> copyrighted? It is somewhat lacking in "originality", which is one of
> the requirements for US copyright law to apply, at least.
>=20
> You may be better of asking a lawyer, unfortunately!
>=20
> joe
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