Konqueror and Padding

Test page: http://improve-usenet.html/filters_ex3test.html

Please take a look in FF and Opera, where the padding beneath the code
lines in the boxes looks as I wish it to; then look in Konqueror, which
here seems to be ignoring it:

http://blinkynet.net/stuff/comp/filters_ex3test_konq.jpg

(It's okay in IE, too.)

I'd *like* some breathing room between the last line and the bottom of
the box (FF, Opera), but if the only way I can get both the top and
bottom of the text to be the same relative to the box top and bottom is
to reduce the space on the top, that might be Plan B.

Of course, if I add padding for Konq, the other browsers display too
much space down there.

Ideas?


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Re: Konqueror and Padding

Blinky the Shark wrote:
> Test page: http://improve-usenet.html/filters_ex3test.html

Corrected URL: http://improve-usenet.org/filters_ex3test.html

Can't help with Konqueror, though, sorry.


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Re: Konqueror and Padding

Blinky the Shark wrote:
> Test page: http://improve-usenet.html/filters_ex3test.html
>
> Please take a look in FF and Opera, where the padding beneath the code
> lines in the boxes looks as I wish it to; then look in Konqueror, which
> here seems to be ignoring it:
>
> http://blinkynet.net/stuff/comp/filters_ex3test_konq.jpg

Can't reproduce this in KDE 3.5.7, for me it looks the same in SeaMonkey
and Konqueror, so it may be that the version of Konqueror you use is
quite old.



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Re: Konqueror and Padding

On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 13:59:01 +0200, J.O. Aho wrote:
> Blinky the Shark wrote:
>> Test page: http://improve-usenet.html/filters_ex3test.html
>>
>> Please take a look in FF and Opera, where the padding beneath the code
>> lines in the boxes looks as I wish it to; then look in Konqueror, which
>> here seems to be ignoring it:
>>
>> http://blinkynet.net/stuff/comp/filters_ex3test_konq.jpg
>
> Can't reproduce this in KDE 3.5.7, for me it looks the same in SeaMonkey
> and Konqueror, so it may be that the version of Konqueror you use is
> quite old.

Just might be an old konq problem. I'm running 3.3.2 and it appears
there. It plays the way you want in IE6.0+wine

Ugly suggestion:
 

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Re: Konqueror and Padding

John Hosking wrote:
> Blinky the Shark wrote:
>> Test page: http://improve-usenet.html/filters_ex3test.html
>
> Corrected URL: http://improve-usenet.org/filters_ex3test.html

D'oh! Thanks



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Re: Konqueror and Padding

J.O. Aho wrote:
> Blinky the Shark wrote:
>> Test page: http://improve-usenet.html/filters_ex3test.html
>>
>> Please take a look in FF and Opera, where the padding beneath the code
>> lines in the boxes looks as I wish it to; then look in Konqueror, which
>> here seems to be ignoring it:
>>
>> http://blinkynet.net/stuff/comp/filters_ex3test_konq.jpg
>
> Can't reproduce this in KDE 3.5.7, for me it looks the same in SeaMonkey
> and Konqueror, so it may be that the version of Konqueror you use is
> quite old.

I don't have SeaMonkey, so I don't know what you see. Can you provide an
image?

Konqueror here is 3.4.2.


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Re: Konqueror and Padding

Allodoxaphobia wrote:
> On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 13:59:01 +0200, J.O. Aho wrote:
>> Blinky the Shark wrote:
>>> Test page: http://improve-usenet.html/filters_ex3test.html
>>>
>>> Please take a look in FF and Opera, where the padding beneath the code
>>> lines in the boxes looks as I wish it to; then look in Konqueror, which
>>> here seems to be ignoring it:
>>>
>>> http://blinkynet.net/stuff/comp/filters_ex3test_konq.jpg
>>
>> Can't reproduce this in KDE 3.5.7, for me it looks the same in SeaMonkey
>> and Konqueror, so it may be that the version of Konqueror you use is
>> quite old.
>
> Just might be an old konq problem. I'm running 3.3.2 and it appears
> there. It plays the way you want in IE6.0+wine

Thanks for the confirmation; as I noted in reply to Aho, i'm using
3.4.2.

> Ugly suggestion:
 

Why wouldn't that add an unwanted blank line to all the other browsers
where this problem doesn't exist, thereby breaking the look for all of
them?


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Re: Konqueror and Padding

Blinky the Shark wrote:
> J.O. Aho wrote:
>> Blinky the Shark wrote:
>>> Test page: http://improve-usenet.html/filters_ex3test.html
>>>
>>> Please take a look in FF and Opera, where the padding beneath the code
>>> lines in the boxes looks as I wish it to; then look in Konqueror, which
>>> here seems to be ignoring it:
>>>
>>> http://blinkynet.net/stuff/comp/filters_ex3test_konq.jpg
>> Can't reproduce this in KDE 3.5.7, for me it looks the same in SeaMonkey
>> and Konqueror, so it may be that the version of Konqueror you use is
>> quite old.
>
> I don't have SeaMonkey, so I don't know what you see. Can you provide an
> image?

Go to www.mozilla.org and get it, if your distro don't supply it.
Uses the Gecko engine as all the other browsers from mozilla.org.


> Konqueror here is 3.4.2.

If I don't remember it wrong, thats from march 2005, time to upgrade a bit?

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Re: Konqueror and Padding

J.O. Aho wrote:
> Blinky the Shark wrote:
>> J.O. Aho wrote:
>>> Blinky the Shark wrote:
>>>> Test page: http://improve-usenet.html/filters_ex3test.html
>>>>
>>>> Please take a look in FF and Opera, where the padding beneath the code
>>>> lines in the boxes looks as I wish it to; then look in Konqueror, which
>>>> here seems to be ignoring it:
>>>>
>>>> http://blinkynet.net/stuff/comp/filters_ex3test_konq.jpg
>>> Can't reproduce this in KDE 3.5.7, for me it looks the same in SeaMonkey
>>> and Konqueror, so it may be that the version of Konqueror you use is
>>> quite old.
>>
>> I don't have SeaMonkey, so I don't know what you see. Can you provide an
>> image?
>
> Go to www.mozilla.org and get it, if your distro don't supply it.
> Uses the Gecko engine as all the other browsers from mozilla.org.

I guess a screen cap is a lot of work.

>> Konqueror here is 3.4.2.
>
> If I don't remember it wrong, thats from march 2005, time to upgrade a bit?

I doubt that the new one would work with my version of KDE. I change
KDE versions when I reinstall Linux. I'm not about to do that for
just another gecko-based browser. Thanks.


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Re: Konqueror and Padding

Blinky the Shark wrote:
> J.O. Aho wrote:
>> Blinky the Shark wrote:
>>> J.O. Aho wrote:
>>>> Blinky the Shark wrote:
>>>>> Test page: http://improve-usenet.html/filters_ex3test.html
>>>>>
>>>>> Please take a look in FF and Opera, where the padding beneath the code
>>>>> lines in the boxes looks as I wish it to; then look in Konqueror, which
>>>>> here seems to be ignoring it:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://blinkynet.net/stuff/comp/filters_ex3test_konq.jpg
>>>> Can't reproduce this in KDE 3.5.7, for me it looks the same in SeaMonkey
>>>> and Konqueror, so it may be that the version of Konqueror you use is
>>>> quite old.
>>> I don't have SeaMonkey, so I don't know what you see. Can you provide an
>>> image?
>> Go to www.mozilla.org and get it, if your distro don't supply it.
>> Uses the Gecko engine as all the other browsers from mozilla.org.
>
> I guess a screen cap is a lot of work.

I don't see the point as you know how it looks as you use a gecko based
browser to see how it looks and you said it looked as it should in it.


>>> Konqueror here is 3.4.2.
>> If I don't remember it wrong, thats from march 2005, time to upgrade a bit?
>
> I doubt that the new one would work with my version of KDE. I change
> KDE versions when I reinstall Linux. I'm not about to do that for
> just another gecko-based browser. Thanks.

*raise eyebrow*
SeaMonkey do not require you to upgrade and even less reinstall (thats a
bad word from the microsoft world), or do you upgrade/reinstall your
complete Linux installation when you switch to a newer version of FF?


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Re: Konqueror and Padding

J.O. Aho wrote:
> Blinky the Shark wrote:
>> J.O. Aho wrote:
>>> Blinky the Shark wrote:
>>>> J.O. Aho wrote:
>>>>> Blinky the Shark wrote:
>>>>>> Test page: http://improve-usenet.html/filters_ex3test.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please take a look in FF and Opera, where the padding beneath the
>>>>>> code lines in the boxes looks as I wish it to; then look in
>>>>>> Konqueror, which here seems to be ignoring it:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://blinkynet.net/stuff/comp/filters_ex3test_konq.jpg
>>>>> Can't reproduce this in KDE 3.5.7, for me it looks the same in
>>>>> SeaMonkey and Konqueror, so it may be that the version of
>>>>> Konqueror you use is quite old.
>>>> I don't have SeaMonkey, so I don't know what you see. Can you
>>>> provide an image?
>>> Go to www.mozilla.org and get it, if your distro don't supply it.
>>> Uses the Gecko engine as all the other browsers from mozilla.org.
>>
>> I guess a screen cap is a lot of work.
>
> I don't see the point as you know how it looks as you use a gecko
> based browser to see how it looks and you said it looked as it should
> in it.

If it looks the same here and there, then that's fine.

>>>> Konqueror here is 3.4.2.
>>> If I don't remember it wrong, thats from march 2005, time to upgrade
>>> a bit?
>>
>> I doubt that the new one would work with my version of KDE. I change
>> KDE versions when I reinstall Linux. I'm not about to do that for
>> just another gecko-based browser. Thanks.
>
> *raise eyebrow* SeaMonkey do not require you to upgrade and even less
> reinstall (thats a bad word from the microsoft world), or do you
> upgrade/reinstall your complete Linux installation when you switch to
> a newer version of FF?

I used "reinstall" to mean "install again". I don't see the problem
with that usage.

Of course I don't reinstall my operating system when I upgrade Firefox.
I guess I missed your sarcasm tags.

See, what I actually *said* was that I suspect that the newer Konqueror
requires a newer version of *KDE* than I have. And to preempt "So just
upgrade KDE" I added that the only time I upgrade KDE is when the
installation of a new version of my operating system provides the latest
KDE. I really don't know how to make that progression any clearer for
you.


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Re: Konqueror and Padding

Blinky the Shark wrote:
>
> I don't have SeaMonkey, so I don't know what you see.

It's unlikely there's any difference between Seamonkey and Firefox. It's
all gecko, just different wrappings.

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Re: Konqueror and Padding

On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 16:58:39 +0000, Blinky the Shark writ:

> I don't have SeaMonkey, so I don't know what you see. Can you provide an
> image?
>
> Konqueror here is 3.4.2.

Konqueror 3.5.4:

http://i10.tinypic.com/2h3r78h.jpg

Looks ok in newer version, eh?

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Re: Konqueror and Padding

freemont wrote:
> On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 16:58:39 +0000, Blinky the Shark writ:
>
>> I don't have SeaMonkey, so I don't know what you see. Can you provide an
>> image?
>>
>> Konqueror here is 3.4.2.
>
> Konqueror 3.5.4:
>
> http://i10.tinypic.com/2h3r78h.jpg
>
> Looks ok in newer version, eh?

Excellent. Thanks!

I decided to leave it the way it is and not worry about Old Konq. I
haven't seen a lot of such issues with it, but I'm glad New Konq has
more of its act together.

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Re: Konqueror and Padding

On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 03:54:19 +0000, Blinky the Shark writ:

> freemont wrote:
>>
>> Konqueror 3.5.4:
>>
>> http://i10.tinypic.com/2h3r78h.jpg
>>
>> Looks ok in newer version, eh?
>
> Excellent. Thanks!
>
> I decided to leave it the way it is and not worry about Old Konq. I
> haven't seen a lot of such issues with it, but I'm glad New Konq has
> more of its act together.

Cool. Also, I just now noticed the typo in that screenshot. :-)

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Re: Konqueror and Padding

freemont wrote:
> On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 03:54:19 +0000, Blinky the Shark writ:
>
>> freemont wrote:
>>>
>>> Konqueror 3.5.4:
>>>
>>> http://i10.tinypic.com/2h3r78h.jpg
>>>
>>> Looks ok in newer version, eh?
>>
>> Excellent. Thanks!
>>
>> I decided to leave it the way it is and not worry about Old Konq. I
>> haven't seen a lot of such issues with it, but I'm glad New Konq has
>> more of its act together.
>
> Cool. Also, I just now noticed the typo in that screenshot. :-)

Darned old version of Konqueror! ;)



Urk!

Fixed. Thanks a lot.


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Re: Konqueror and Padding

On 2007-09-23, Blinky the Shark wrote:
> Test page: http://improve-usenet.html/filters_ex3test.html
>
> Please take a look in FF and Opera, where the padding beneath the code
> lines in the boxes looks as I wish it to; then look in Konqueror, which
> here seems to be ignoring it:
>
> http://blinkynet.net/stuff/comp/filters_ex3test_konq.jpg
>
> (It's okay in IE, too.)
>
> I'd *like* some breathing room between the last line and the bottom of
> the box (FF, Opera), but if the only way I can get both the top and
> bottom of the text to be the same relative to the box top and bottom is
> to reduce the space on the top, that might be Plan B.
>
> Of course, if I add padding for Konq, the other browsers display too
> much space down there.
>
> Ideas?

It's a difference in the way browsers are collapsing whitespace in the

.



In the source you've got a newline after "msgid_only=google".  Firefox

is leaving that in, hence the gap, Konqueror isn't (but should be-- it

sounds like they've already fixed it).



If you change the source to msgid_only=google