New To PHP

I just have a fiew intro questions...
Is php freeware... and can use it on macs os x.

Re: New To PHP

Yes PHP is completely free and yes, you can use it on any Operating
System you want to.

But for programming in PHP you don't need to have PHP.

Re: New To PHP

You can download source code files of php from http://www.php.net/downloads.php
and compile, i am not familiar with Mac OS, so i cant instruct how to
compile it on Mac. there is ready to use binary for windows, if you
have windows, you can install PHP easly. just download the installer
and run it.

Re: New To PHP

Bruno Barros wrote:
> Yes PHP is completely free and yes, you can use it on any Operating
> System you want to.
>
> But for programming in PHP you don't need to have PHP.
>

???

How are you going to program in PHP if you don't have it?

Even if you're using a server to run your scripts, you need it
somewhere. And personally, I prefer to have development on my local system.

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Re: New To PHP

On 29 Sep, 19:52, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
> Bruno Barros wrote:
> > Yes PHP is completely free and yes, you can use it on any Operating
> > System you want to.
>
> > But for programming in PHP you don't need to have PHP.
>
> ???
>
> How are you going to program in PHP if you don't have it?
>
> Even if you're using a server to run your scripts, you need it
> somewhere. And personally, I prefer to have development on my local system.
>
> --
> ==================
> Remove the "x" from my email address
> Jerry Stuckle
> JDS Computer Training Corp.
> jstuck...@attglobal.net
> ==================

Notepad doesn't have PHP and one can code on it. The problem is for
testing ;) But that's testing, not programming.

Re: New To PHP

On 29 Sep 2007 in comp.lang.php, Movies989 said:

> I just have a fiew intro questions...
> Is php freeware... and can use it on macs os x.
>

You might want to try xampp for mac os x which will let you set up all you
need to use php/apache locally with their installer.
http://www.apachefriends.org/en/xampp-macosx.html

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Re: New To PHP

On 30 Sep, 04:19, CW Northrop wrote:
> On 29 Sep 2007 in comp.lang.php, Movies989 said:
>
> > I just have a fiew intro questions...
> > Is php freeware... and can use it on macs os x.
>
> You might want to try xampp for mac os x which will let you set up all you
> need to use php/apache locally with their installer.http://www.apachefriends.org/en/xampp-macosx.html
>
> --
>
> Free Website Promotion and Marketing tips:http://tinyurl.com/2f5lb8

On my first post in this topic I was to post the exact same link xD.

Re: New To PHP

"Bruno Barros" wrote in message
news:1191099058.970502.312190@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
> On 29 Sep, 19:52, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>> Bruno Barros wrote:
>> > Yes PHP is completely free and yes, you can use it on any Operating
>> > System you want to.
>>
>> > But for programming in PHP you don't need to have PHP.
>>
>> ???
>>
>> How are you going to program in PHP if you don't have it?
>>
>> Even if you're using a server to run your scripts, you need it
>> somewhere. And personally, I prefer to have development on my local
>> system.
>>
>> --
>> ==================
>> Remove the "x" from my email address
>> Jerry Stuckle
>> JDS Computer Training Corp.
>> jstuck...@attglobal.net
>> ==================
>
> Notepad doesn't have PHP and one can code on it. The problem is for
> testing ;) But that's testing, not programming.

AAAAARRRRGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHH! If you can say this with a straight face, then I
would NEVER hire you! "programming" include:
(a) design
(b) roughing it out
(c) coding (what you refer to as programming)
(d) debugging
(e) testing
(f) more testing
(g) even more testing
(h) upgrades
(i) more testsing of upgrades
etc.

Shelly

Re: New To PHP

On 2007-09-29 08:04:03 -0700, Movies989 said:

> I just have a fiew intro questions...
> Is php freeware... and can use it on macs os x.

Hey a question I can answer!

Yes, PHP can be used on a mac with OSX. In fact PHP4 comes loaded. Go
to System Prefs, sharing and turn on Personal web sharing. It will tell
you the address of your local machine. Mine is Like:
http://xxx.xxx.x.xxx/
Now make a folder in "Sites" and put your web files in there. To access
type into Safari or whatever:
http://xxx.xxx.x.xxx/mySite/ or whatever

I bookmarked my index file for my test site and all works nice. I
haven't upgraded to PHP5 on my mac so cant help you there.

Hope that helps,
Ron

One of these days maybe we can start a "Editors for mac " thread...

Re: New To PHP

On 30 Sep, 14:49, "Shelly" wrote:
> "Bruno Barros" wrote in message
>
> news:1191099058.970502.312190@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > On 29 Sep, 19:52, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
> >> Bruno Barros wrote:
> >> > Yes PHP is completely free and yes, you can use it on any Operating
> >> > System you want to.
>
> >> > But for programming in PHP you don't need to have PHP.
>
> >> ???
>
> >> How are you going to program in PHP if you don't have it?
>
> >> Even if you're using a server to run your scripts, you need it
> >> somewhere. And personally, I prefer to have development on my local
> >> system.
>
> >> --
> >> ==================
> >> Remove the "x" from my email address
> >> Jerry Stuckle
> >> JDS Computer Training Corp.
> >> jstuck...@attglobal.net
> >> ==================
>
> > Notepad doesn't have PHP and one can code on it. The problem is for
> > testing ;) But that's testing, not programming.
>
> AAAAARRRRGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHH! If you can say this with a straight face, then I
> would NEVER hire you! "programming" include:
> (a) design
> (b) roughing it out
> (c) coding (what you refer to as programming)
> (d) debugging
> (e) testing
> (f) more testing
> (g) even more testing
> (h) upgrades
> (i) more testsing of upgrades
> etc.
>
> Shelly

Yeah yeah I know... And I do that. I just mean when I started
programming PHP I didn't have a server software.

And I don't refer that as programming. I just mean that even with free
hosting you can program and do everything you want. You don't actually
need a server software to PROGRAM! It sure is more easy to have it on
ur own PC, but it's not a MUST.

Re: New To PHP

Bruno Barros wrote:
> On 30 Sep, 14:49, "Shelly" wrote:
>> "Bruno Barros" wrote in message
>>
>> news:1191099058.970502.312190@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>
>>
>>> On 29 Sep, 19:52, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>>>> Bruno Barros wrote:
>>>>> Yes PHP is completely free and yes, you can use it on any Operating
>>>>> System you want to.
>>>>> But for programming in PHP you don't need to have PHP.
>>>> ???
>>>> How are you going to program in PHP if you don't have it?
>>>> Even if you're using a server to run your scripts, you need it
>>>> somewhere. And personally, I prefer to have development on my local
>>>> system.
>>>> --
>>>> ==================
>>>> Remove the "x" from my email address
>>>> Jerry Stuckle
>>>> JDS Computer Training Corp.
>>>> jstuck...@attglobal.net
>>>> ==================
>>> Notepad doesn't have PHP and one can code on it. The problem is for
>>> testing ;) But that's testing, not programming.
>> AAAAARRRRGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHH! If you can say this with a straight face, then I
>> would NEVER hire you! "programming" include:
>> (a) design
>> (b) roughing it out
>> (c) coding (what you refer to as programming)
>> (d) debugging
>> (e) testing
>> (f) more testing
>> (g) even more testing
>> (h) upgrades
>> (i) more testsing of upgrades
>> etc.
>>
>> Shelly
>
> Yeah yeah I know... And I do that. I just mean when I started
> programming PHP I didn't have a server software.
>
> And I don't refer that as programming. I just mean that even with free
> hosting you can program and do everything you want. You don't actually
> need a server software to PROGRAM! It sure is more easy to have it on
> ur own PC, but it's not a MUST.
>

No one said you needed PHP on YOUR system. Just that you need PHP.
Nothing more, nothing less.

And I agree with Shelly. All of the above is part of PROGRAMMING. As
opposed to WRITING CODE. For the latter, all you need is Notepad.


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Re: New To PHP

"Bruno Barros" wrote in message
news:1191168292.245538.201420@o80g2000hse.googlegroups.com.. .
> On 30 Sep, 14:49, "Shelly" wrote:
>> "Bruno Barros" wrote in message
>>
>> news:1191099058.970502.312190@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>
>>
>> > On 29 Sep, 19:52, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>> >> Bruno Barros wrote:
>> >> > Yes PHP is completely free and yes, you can use it on any Operating
>> >> > System you want to.
>>
>> >> > But for programming in PHP you don't need to have PHP.
>>
>> >> ???
>>
>> >> How are you going to program in PHP if you don't have it?
>>
>> >> Even if you're using a server to run your scripts, you need it
>> >> somewhere. And personally, I prefer to have development on my local
>> >> system.
>>
>> >> --
>> >> ==================
>> >> Remove the "x" from my email address
>> >> Jerry Stuckle
>> >> JDS Computer Training Corp.
>> >> jstuck...@attglobal.net
>> >> ==================
>>
>> > Notepad doesn't have PHP and one can code on it. The problem is for
>> > testing ;) But that's testing, not programming.
>>
>> AAAAARRRRGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHH! If you can say this with a straight face,
>> then I
>> would NEVER hire you! "programming" include:
>> (a) design
>> (b) roughing it out
>> (c) coding (what you refer to as programming)
>> (d) debugging
>> (e) testing
>> (f) more testing
>> (g) even more testing
>> (h) upgrades
>> (i) more testsing of upgrades
>> etc.
>>
>> Shelly
>
> Yeah yeah I know... And I do that. I just mean when I started
> programming PHP I didn't have a server software.
>
> And I don't refer that as programming. I just mean that even with free
> hosting you can program and do everything you want. You don't actually
> need a server software to PROGRAM! It sure is more easy to have it on
> ur own PC, but it's not a MUST.

I can agree with that. It was just the distinction you made between
programming and testing that got me. Now, if you had made the distinction
between CODING and testing, well.......

In fact, I have a server from my son's business that I use for testing. I
don't have php loaded on my local machines. However, Dreamweaver does have
nice color coding for the different things, so that helps.

Shelly

Re: New To PHP

On 30 Sep, 19:22, "Shelly" wrote:
> "Bruno Barros" wrote in message
>
> news:1191168292.245538.201420@o80g2000hse.googlegroups.com.. .
>
>
>
> > On 30 Sep, 14:49, "Shelly" wrote:
> >> "Bruno Barros" wrote in message
>
> >>news:1191099058.970502.312190@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com. ..
>
> >> > On 29 Sep, 19:52, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
> >> >> Bruno Barros wrote:
> >> >> > Yes PHP is completely free and yes, you can use it on any Operating
> >> >> > System you want to.
>
> >> >> > But for programming in PHP you don't need to have PHP.
>
> >> >> ???
>
> >> >> How are you going to program in PHP if you don't have it?
>
> >> >> Even if you're using a server to run your scripts, you need it
> >> >> somewhere. And personally, I prefer to have development on my local
> >> >> system.
>
> >> >> --
> >> >> ==================
> >> >> Remove the "x" from my email address
> >> >> Jerry Stuckle
> >> >> JDS Computer Training Corp.
> >> >> jstuck...@attglobal.net
> >> >> ==================
>
> >> > Notepad doesn't have PHP and one can code on it. The problem is for
> >> > testing ;) But that's testing, not programming.
>
> >> AAAAARRRRGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHH! If you can say this with a straight face,
> >> then I
> >> would NEVER hire you! "programming" include:
> >> (a) design
> >> (b) roughing it out
> >> (c) coding (what you refer to as programming)
> >> (d) debugging
> >> (e) testing
> >> (f) more testing
> >> (g) even more testing
> >> (h) upgrades
> >> (i) more testsing of upgrades
> >> etc.
>
> >> Shelly
>
> > Yeah yeah I know... And I do that. I just mean when I started
> > programming PHP I didn't have a server software.
>
> > And I don't refer that as programming. I just mean that even with free
> > hosting you can program and do everything you want. You don't actually
> > need a server software to PROGRAM! It sure is more easy to have it on
> > ur own PC, but it's not a MUST.
>
> I can agree with that. It was just the distinction you made between
> programming and testing that got me. Now, if you had made the distinction
> between CODING and testing, well.......
>
> In fact, I have a server from my son's business that I use for testing. I
> don't have php loaded on my local machines. However, Dreamweaver does have
> nice color coding for the different things, so that helps.
>
> Shelly

geez sorry about that ;)

Re: New To PHP

On Mon, 01 Oct 2007 11:24:08 +0200, Bruno Barros wrote:
>> In fact, I have a server from my son's business that I use for
>> testing. I
>> don't have php loaded on my local machines. However, Dreamweaver does
>> have
>> nice color coding for the different things, so that helps.
>>
>> Shelly
>
> geez sorry about that ;)

Sorry about DreamWeaver?

:P
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Re: New To PHP

On 1 Oct, 11:25, "Rik Wasmus" wrote:
> On Mon, 01 Oct 2007 11:24:08 +0200, Bruno Barros wrote:
> >> In fact, I have a server from my son's business that I use for
> >> testing. I
> >> don't have php loaded on my local machines. However, Dreamweaver does
> >> have
> >> nice color coding for the different things, so that helps.
>
> >> Shelly
>
> > geez sorry about that ;)
>
> Sorry about DreamWeaver?
>
> :P
> --
> Rik Wasmus

LOL things out of context are surely confusing.

> AAAAARRRRGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHH! If you can say this with a straight face, then I
> would NEVER hire you! "programming" include:

This is what I was apologizing for :).