PHP Editor/IDE

I am very, very new to PHP. I have managed to get 'Hello World' and
phpinfo to run (XP Pro, Apache, php 5) but I would appreciate the ability
to debug my way through a script.

I have down-loaded NuSphere-phped-5.0.1evl-Win32.exe and
php_editor_php5.exe and I am pretty confused as they seem to be (almost)
the same thing. They seem to be a bit unhappy that my development machine
is the same as the server and confused that I am using php_dbg.dll-5.2.x.

Any recommendations as to what I should try? I am a home user so don't
want to spend a fortune but I am used to working in the comfort zone of
MSFT Visual Studio.

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Jeff Gaines Damerham Hampshire UK
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(Ken Olson, president Digital Equipment, 1977)

Re: PHP Editor/IDE

"Jeff Gaines" wrote in message
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>
> I am very, very new to PHP. I have managed to get 'Hello World' and
> phpinfo to run (XP Pro, Apache, php 5) but I would appreciate the ability
> to debug my way through a script.
>
> I have down-loaded NuSphere-phped-5.0.1evl-Win32.exe and
> php_editor_php5.exe and I am pretty confused as they seem to be (almost)
> the same thing. They seem to be a bit unhappy that my development machine
> is the same as the server and confused that I am using php_dbg.dll-5.2.x.
>
> Any recommendations as to what I should try? I am a home user so don't
> want to spend a fortune but I am used to working in the comfort zone of
> MSFT Visual Studio.

yet another weekly installment of 'what php editor/ide is best'.

you may be very, very new to php. we expect that you are at least an amature
at using the search feature of either your nntp reader or google. please use
it before posting any question. you'll most often find your question has
been asked and answered a multitude over.

Re: PHP Editor/IDE

"Jeff Gaines" wrote in message
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> Any recommendations as to what I should try? I am a home user so don't
> want to spend a fortune but I am used to working in the comfort zone of
> MSFT Visual Studio.

Zend Studio.
Zend did a lot of the work on developing PHP and is the best established PHP
company out there.

It's got a free evaluation for like a month, and then costs $100 - $200 for
the "enterprise" version.
The cash allows you to call their help-line as much as you want, with even
the dumbest questions.

One of the features you'll probably like best is the fact that it has a
setting that allows you to sort-of emulate the VS.Net environment.
So all your keyboard shortcuts and stuff will work the same.

Here are some product reviews I wrote about it:

"The Standard PHP Development Tool"
http://www.epinions.com/content_290447527556

"Online Tech Support for Zend Studio"
http://www.epinions.com/content_290643742340

Re: PHP Editor/IDE

On 08/10/2007 in message
Sanders Kaufman wrote:

>Zend Studio.
>Zend did a lot of the work on developing PHP and is the best established
>PHP company out there.

Many thanks Sanders, you're not wrong :-)

I think it must be the only one I hadn't down-loaded to try, their web
site is pretty slow and that doesn't give a good impression to a newcomer.

I found phpEdit odd because there seem to be 2 versions of the same thing
and phpDesigner doesn't seem to allow you to step through code. Komodo
wasn't bad but in reality the output in its output windows is different
from what you see in a browser.

Anyway Zend installed quickly and easily and worked immediately, just like
your review said it would :-)

Thanks again, I will give it a good try and might buy it for myself as a
belated birthday present :-)

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There are 10 types of people in the world, those who do binary and those
who don't.

Re: PHP Editor/IDE

"Jeff Gaines" wrote in message
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> Sanders Kaufman wrote:

> Anyway Zend installed quickly and easily and worked immediately, just like
> your review said it would :-)
>
> Thanks again, I will give it a good try and might buy it for myself as a
> belated birthday present :-)

And thank YOU for clicking on the link!
The penny I earned from it may change my life! :)

Re: PHP Editor/IDE

Dear Jeff,

I have been working with an adapted version of the Eclipse IDE and I
am very confident with that solution. The package can be downloaded
for free at http://www.eclipse.org/pdt/
As you mentioned you already work with MS IDE, so you might like this
approach.

Sincerly
Sascha Tayefeh

Re: PHP Editor/IDE

"Sascha Tayefeh" wrote in message
news:1192055730.372901.71540@r29g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
> Dear Jeff,
>
> I have been working with an adapted version of the Eclipse IDE and I
> am very confident with that solution. The package can be downloaded
> for free at http://www.eclipse.org/pdt/
> As you mentioned you already work with MS IDE, so you might like this
> approach.

I just got a *very* interesting email from Zend.
They're transitioning away from a stand-alone product.
It's going to be just another plug-in for Eclipse.

That SUCKS because I love my stand-alone, run-anywhere Zend Studio.
It also sucks because my 1-year support period ended a year ago - so I don't
get the free upgrade.
It also sucks because in my Flash-Drive that I take to jobs, I'll have to
carry Zend AND Eclipse setups.
Of course, becoming familiar with the Eclipse IDE won't suck - so that's
something.

(Sorry for the HTML posting!)

--
Hello Sanders,

Zend is launching a beta of the next generation of the Zend
Studio family - Zend Studio for Eclipse.
This beta release (code named "Neon") is based on proven Zend
Studio technology and the Eclipse PHP Developers Tools (PDT) project. Zend
Studio for Eclipse is the world's most powerful PHP IDE - providing
professional PHP development capabilities combined with the Eclipse
multi-language support and plug-in extension technology.

When Zend Studio for Eclipse is released, customers will get
licenses for both the stand-alone Zend Studio and the Eclipse based product.
Zend will also offer Zend Studio for Eclipse to all Zend Studio customers
with a valid support subscription.

Special Offer: *Get 15% off your next purchase of Zend Studio!
Buy Zend Studio Professional today and get the new Eclipse based
product for free when it becomes available by the end of the year.
Click here to buy

Zend Studio for Eclipse Highlights:

Proven Zend Studio Technology
Zend Studio for Eclipse is designed for professional PHP developers
who require a powerful environment to create dynamic Web-based business
applications. It is the only PHP IDE based on proven Zend Studio technology.
It supports the full application development lifecycle with a powerful set
of editing, analysis, debugging, and database tools. Zend Studio for Eclipse
simplifies complex projects and increases productivity making your
applications more robust. Integration with Zend Core and Zend Platform
simplifies debugging analysis, making it easier for you to get to the root
cause of a coding problem, solving it quickly to get your applications back
up and running faster.

Eclipse Integration Benefits
Eclipse is the world most popular open source development platform
comprised of an extensible framework of tools and runtimes for building,
deploying and managing software across the development lifecycle. With a
vibrant ecosystem supported by major technology vendors, start-ups,
universities, research institutions and individuals, Eclipse is the worlds
most powerful and successful multi-language IDE. Eclipse provides developers
with the following benefits:
- Standardization - Support for multiple languages let you learn one
IDE for all development, creating the perfect environment for simplifying
development of blended language applications
- Extensibility - With over 800 plug-ins you can quickly add
functionality you need
- Vibrant Open Source Community - Faster development of new
technologies

Zend Studio for Eclipse Features Include:


a.. Eclipse/PDT based solution:
a.. Community of millions of users and thousands of developers
b.. Access to hundreds of plug-ins
c.. Blended language support in one tool
d.. PHP syntax highlighting, code assist and inspection
e.. PHP basic debugging
b.. High value addition based on Zend Studio:
a.. Simplified, integrated, advanced debugging (local and
remote/web server)
b.. Code Refactoring
c.. Profiling and Code Coverage
d.. PHPUnit Test support
e.. Enhanced Zend Framework integration
f.. WYSIWYG HTML Editing
g.. Zend Platform integration
h.. Migration tools from Zend Studio users
i.. BIRT integration
j.. Unified installer for one stop install
k.. And more.
More information on Zend Studio For Eclipse

Download the new Zend Studio Neon beta for free

To submit feedback email studio-feedback@zend.com

Zend will be using a Yahoo group as a community to support this beta.
Click here to join this group and get information about the ongoing beta.

If you have any questions, please contact store@zend.com


Happy PHP'ing,
Zend - The php Company
http://www.zend.com


*Discount is available for purchases of Zend Studio Professional and
Zend Studio Professional 3 year support - made until November 15, 2007 and
can not be combined with any other offers or promotions.

Re: PHP Editor/IDE

On 10/10/2007 in message
<1192055730.372901.71540@r29g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> Sascha Tayefeh wrote:

>I have been working with an adapted version of the Eclipse IDE and I
>am very confident with that solution. The package can be downloaded
>for free at http://www.eclipse.org/pdt/
>As you mentioned you already work with MS IDE, so you might like this
>approach.

Many thanks, Sascha, I am down-loading it now :-)

--
Jeff Gaines Damerham Hampshire UK
Tell me what you need, and I'll tell you how to get along without it.

Re: PHP Editor/IDE

On 10/10/2007 in message
Sanders Kaufman wrote:

>I just got a very interesting email from Zend.
>They're transitioning away from a stand-alone product.
>It's going to be just another plug-in for Eclipse.

That is a pity, I was just getting used to it.

I am also trying the Jcx VS.PHP add on for Visual Studio. Having problems
connecting to my server though. looks like I need to discover how to
install SSH/FTP on Windows :-(

PS - I hope the announcement from Zend doesn't mean you have to give back
your click pennies!

--
Jeff Gaines Damerham Hampshire UK
"Why is it that when we talk to God we're said to be praying,
but when God talks to us we're schizophrenic?"

Re: PHP Editor/IDE

Sanders Kaufman wrote:
> "Sascha Tayefeh" wrote in message
> news:1192055730.372901.71540@r29g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
>> Dear Jeff,
>>
>> I have been working with an adapted version of the Eclipse IDE and I
>> am very confident with that solution. The package can be downloaded
>> for free at http://www.eclipse.org/pdt/
>> As you mentioned you already work with MS IDE, so you might like this
>> approach.
>
> I just got a *very* interesting email from Zend.
> They're transitioning away from a stand-alone product.
> It's going to be just another plug-in for Eclipse.
>
> That SUCKS because I love my stand-alone, run-anywhere Zend Studio.
> It also sucks because my 1-year support period ended a year ago - so I don't
> get the free upgrade.
> It also sucks because in my Flash-Drive that I take to jobs, I'll have to
> carry Zend AND Eclipse setups.
> Of course, becoming familiar with the Eclipse IDE won't suck - so that's
> something.
>
> (Sorry for the HTML posting!)
>
> --
> Hello Sanders,
>
> Zend is launching a beta of the next generation of the Zend
> Studio family - Zend Studio for Eclipse.
> This beta release (code named "Neon") is based on proven Zend
> Studio technology and the Eclipse PHP Developers Tools (PDT) project. Zend
> Studio for Eclipse is the world's most powerful PHP IDE - providing
> professional PHP development capabilities combined with the Eclipse
> multi-language support and plug-in extension technology.
>
> When Zend Studio for Eclipse is released, customers will get
> licenses for both the stand-alone Zend Studio and the Eclipse based product.
> Zend will also offer Zend Studio for Eclipse to all Zend Studio customers
> with a valid support subscription.
>
> Special Offer: *Get 15% off your next purchase of Zend Studio!
> Buy Zend Studio Professional today and get the new Eclipse based
> product for free when it becomes available by the end of the year.
> Click here to buy
>
> Zend Studio for Eclipse Highlights:
>
> Proven Zend Studio Technology
> Zend Studio for Eclipse is designed for professional PHP developers
> who require a powerful environment to create dynamic Web-based business
> applications. It is the only PHP IDE based on proven Zend Studio technology.
> It supports the full application development lifecycle with a powerful set
> of editing, analysis, debugging, and database tools. Zend Studio for Eclipse
> simplifies complex projects and increases productivity making your
> applications more robust. Integration with Zend Core and Zend Platform
> simplifies debugging analysis, making it easier for you to get to the root
> cause of a coding problem, solving it quickly to get your applications back
> up and running faster.
>
> Eclipse Integration Benefits
> Eclipse is the world most popular open source development platform
> comprised of an extensible framework of tools and runtimes for building,
> deploying and managing software across the development lifecycle. With a
> vibrant ecosystem supported by major technology vendors, start-ups,
> universities, research institutions and individuals, Eclipse is the worlds
> most powerful and successful multi-language IDE. Eclipse provides developers
> with the following benefits:
> - Standardization - Support for multiple languages let you learn one
> IDE for all development, creating the perfect environment for simplifying
> development of blended language applications
> - Extensibility - With over 800 plug-ins you can quickly add
> functionality you need
> - Vibrant Open Source Community - Faster development of new
> technologies
>
> Zend Studio for Eclipse Features Include:
>
>
> a.. Eclipse/PDT based solution:
> a.. Community of millions of users and thousands of developers
> b.. Access to hundreds of plug-ins
> c.. Blended language support in one tool
> d.. PHP syntax highlighting, code assist and inspection
> e.. PHP basic debugging
> b.. High value addition based on Zend Studio:
> a.. Simplified, integrated, advanced debugging (local and
> remote/web server)
> b.. Code Refactoring
> c.. Profiling and Code Coverage
> d.. PHPUnit Test support
> e.. Enhanced Zend Framework integration
> f.. WYSIWYG HTML Editing
> g.. Zend Platform integration
> h.. Migration tools from Zend Studio users
> i.. BIRT integration
> j.. Unified installer for one stop install
> k.. And more.
> More information on Zend Studio For Eclipse
>
> Download the new Zend Studio Neon beta for free
>
> To submit feedback email studio-feedback@zend.com
>
> Zend will be using a Yahoo group as a community to support this beta.
> Click here to join this group and get information about the ongoing beta.
>
> If you have any questions, please contact store@zend.com
>
>
> Happy PHP'ing,
> Zend - The php Company
> http://www.zend.com
>
>
> *Discount is available for purchases of Zend Studio Professional and
> Zend Studio Professional 3 year support - made until November 15, 2007 and
> can not be combined with any other offers or promotions.
>
>
>

Too bad. They probably couldn't sell enough of them. But at the price
they were charging, I can understand why. It's a great product - but
expensive compared to what else is out there.

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Re: PHP Editor/IDE

"Jeff Gaines" wrote in message
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> I am also trying the Jcx VS.PHP add on for Visual Studio. Having problems
> connecting to my server though. looks like I need to discover how to
> install SSH/FTP on Windows :-(

I'd be FAR more interested in Zend creating a plug-in for VS.Net than for
Eclipse.


> PS - I hope the announcement from Zend doesn't mean you have to give back
> your click pennies!

Thanks - but that comes from Shopping.com. :)

Re: PHP Editor/IDE

"Jerry Stuckle" wrote in message
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> Too bad. They probably couldn't sell enough of them. But at the price
> they were charging, I can understand why. It's a great product - but
> expensive compared to what else is out there.

Considering that I spent like $1k on Visual Studio.net, $99 seemed just
about right to me.
I even popped for the $200 Enterprise version, so that I could learn about
the extras, as well.

Re: PHP Editor/IDE

Sanders Kaufman wrote:
> "Jerry Stuckle" wrote in message
> news:DNydnR5ZqOVsupPanZ2dnUVZ_oPinZ2d@comcast.com...
>
>> Too bad. They probably couldn't sell enough of them. But at the price
>> they were charging, I can understand why. It's a great product - but
>> expensive compared to what else is out there.
>
> Considering that I spent like $1k on Visual Studio.net, $99 seemed just
> about right to me.
> I even popped for the $200 Enterprise version, so that I could learn about
> the extras, as well.
>
>
>
>
>

That's fine. I found it worked ok, but just wasn't worth the price.

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JDS Computer Training Corp.
jstucklex@attglobal.net
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