Server-specific strangeness?

Folks, I have a web site. It was authored professionally and it ran for
many a month on a particular server.

To save costs, I moved it to a different server. Totally and completely
with no changes.

Yet the appearance of the HTML changed. Specifically, I think a style
changed. The text is still ok but several sizes larger. On a Mac using
Safari all I need to do it hit command-minus twice and the pages revert
to looking as they did on the former server.

I can't point you to it because I've taken it down to avoid
embarrassment. Can't have anyone visiting it and thinking I'm a
clueless HTML moron. Even though I am.

Perhaps some kind person in here could venture an opinion as to what
might've happened?

Thanks.

Re: Server-specific strangeness?

In article <161020070036333560%OldSage@HisPeak.com>, OldSage@HisPeak.com
says...
> Folks, I have a web site. It was authored professionally and it ran for
> many a month on a particular server.
>
> To save costs, I moved it to a different server. Totally and completely
> with no changes.
>
> Yet the appearance of the HTML changed. Specifically, I think a style
> changed. The text is still ok but several sizes larger. On a Mac using
> Safari all I need to do it hit command-minus twice and the pages revert
> to looking as they did on the former server.
>
> I can't point you to it because I've taken it down to avoid
> embarrassment. Can't have anyone visiting it and thinking I'm a
> clueless HTML moron. Even though I am.
>
> Perhaps some kind person in here could venture an opinion as to what
> might've happened?
>
> Thanks.
>
There is no way anyone can help diagnose your problem without seeing the
site. Please post it again and provide the URL.

Re: Server-specific strangeness?

In article <161020070036333560%OldSage@HisPeak.com>,
OldSage wrote:

> Folks, I have a web site. It was authored professionally and it ran for
> many a month on a particular server.
>
> To save costs, I moved it to a different server. Totally and completely
> with no changes.
>
> Yet the appearance of the HTML changed. Specifically, I think a style
> changed. The text is still ok but several sizes larger. On a Mac using
> Safari all I need to do it hit command-minus twice and the pages revert
> to looking as they did on the former server.
>
> I can't point you to it because I've taken it down to avoid
> embarrassment. Can't have anyone visiting it and thinking I'm a
> clueless HTML moron. Even though I am.
>
> Perhaps some kind person in here could venture an opinion as to what
> might've happened?
>


Why can't you post it? You make a folder on your server, call it
"forSomeEyesOnly" and stick all the files in. Who but us will be
likely to come across a url that ends in

forSomeEyesOnly/index.html

is likely to see it.

It sounds to me that you have not uploaded all the files. Perhaps
you did not spot some on the old server or some are generated via
javascript or whatever that you have not opbtained. Or that some
external files over which you have no control have been taken
down (eg. the pros who made it might have moved their files to
which they were pointing in your site - not very wise of them, or
nice?). I suspect it would be easy to fix if it is just a global
font-size issue. Do what I suggest.

--
dorayme

Re: Server-specific strangeness?

Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Mon, 15 Oct 2007 20:36:33 GMT
OldSage scribed:

> Folks, I have a web site. It was authored professionally and it ran for
> many a month on a particular server.
>
> To save costs, I moved it to a different server. Totally and completely
> with no changes.
>
> Yet the appearance of the HTML changed. Specifically, I think a style
> changed. The text is still ok but several sizes larger. On a Mac using
> Safari all I need to do it hit command-minus twice and the pages revert
> to looking as they did on the former server.
>
> I can't point you to it because I've taken it down to avoid
> embarrassment. Can't have anyone visiting it and thinking I'm a
> clueless HTML moron. Even though I am.
>
> Perhaps some kind person in here could venture an opinion as to what
> might've happened?

Sounds like a path problem. Another possibility is a change in server-side
amenities.

--
Neredbojias
Half lies are worth twice as much as whole lies.

Re: Server-specific strangeness?

In article <161020070036333560%OldSage@HisPeak.com>,
OldSage wrote:



> Yet the appearance of the HTML changed. Specifically, I think a style
> changed. The text is still ok but several sizes larger. On a Mac using
> Safari all I need to do it hit command-minus twice and the pages revert
> to looking as they did on the former server.



> Perhaps some kind person in here could venture an opinion as to what
> might've happened?

*If* you're using CSS. Make sure external CSS documents actually
reference your HTML document.
Moving from one server to another can be problematic to document paths
among other things.

leo

Re: Server-specific strangeness?

Leonard Blaisdell wrote:

>
> *If* you're using CSS. Make sure external CSS documents actually
> reference your HTML document.

Huh? Shouldn't they point (only) the other way?


--
John
Pondering the value of the UIP: http://improve-usenet.org/

Re: Server-specific strangeness?

In article <47140d62$1_5@news.bluewin.ch>,
John Hosking wrote:

> Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
>
> >
> > *If* you're using CSS. Make sure external CSS documents actually
> > reference your HTML document.
>
> Huh? Shouldn't they point (only) the other way?

I'm sure that is what Leo meant. Do you realise how cold it is
where he lives?

--
dorayme

Re: Server-specific strangeness?

"OldSage" wrote in message
news:161020070036333560%OldSage@HisPeak.com...
> Folks, I have a web site. It was authored professionally and it ran for
> many a month on a particular server.
>
> To save costs, I moved it to a different server. Totally and completely
> with no changes.
>
> Yet the appearance of the HTML changed. Specifically, I think a style
> changed. The text is still ok but several sizes larger. On a Mac using
> Safari all I need to do it hit command-minus twice and the pages revert
> to looking as they did on the former server.
>
> I can't point you to it because I've taken it down to avoid
> embarrassment. Can't have anyone visiting it and thinking I'm a
> clueless HTML moron. Even though I am.

You have a problem but you won't allow us to look at the problem?

> Perhaps some kind person in here could venture an opinion as to what
> might've happened?

Pure guesswork:

Your old server is Windows IIS. Your new server is Apache. The former is
case INsensitive, the latter case sensitive. Your CSS file's name is
misspelt in the HTML.

BTW if the lack of a style sheet makes the font bigger (that is, the viewers
default size) then the style sheet is incorrectly setting the font size.

--
Richard.

Re: Server-specific strangeness?

OldSage wrote:
> Folks, I have a web site. It was authored professionally and it ran for
> many a month on a particular server.
>
> To save costs, I moved it to a different server. Totally and completely
> with no changes.
>
> Yet the appearance of the HTML changed. Specifically, I think a style
> changed. The text is still ok but several sizes larger. On a Mac using
> Safari all I need to do it hit command-minus twice and the pages revert
> to looking as they did on the former server.
>
> I can't point you to it because I've taken it down to avoid
> embarrassment. Can't have anyone visiting it and thinking I'm a
> clueless HTML moron. Even though I am.
>
> Perhaps some kind person in here could venture an opinion as to what
> might've happened?
>
> Thanks.

stylesheet = http://www.olddomain.com/blahblah/mystyle.css

not replaced by

stylesheet = http://www.newdomain.com/blahblah/mystyle.css

could be one reason.

Re: Server-specific strangeness? THANKS

Thank you, thank you to all of the kind folks who replied.

I found the problem, exactly as predicted. One missing file, a style
sheet, failed to copy over. Now I'm totally grumpy with myself. I
invested endless hours looking for obscure causes and the answer was
looking me in the face.

Soon, I'll liven up the site again and you'll all be welcome to visit.

I must say, the help one gets in serious usenet groups is so valuable,
many of us would be way less effective in what we do for a living. I
just wish I had some specialist knowledge here or there, permitting me
to contribute more. As it is, you've hardly heard of me but I am
grateful and I would like to contribute instead of just lurking.
Finding time to educate myself, that's the _real_ problem!

Thanks again

Re: Server-specific strangeness? THANKS

In article <171020071526360206%OldSage@HisPeak.com>,
OldSage wrote:

> As it is, you've hardly heard of me but I am
> grateful and I would like to contribute instead of just lurking.

There *are* other things you can do to help out. I for one can
use a hand every now and then. How big are you? I sometimes need
some big frightening rough types to pop around and have little
chats with people here, I usually employ film stars but they are
not cheap...

--
dorayme

Re: Server-specific strangeness? THANKS

Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Wed, 17 Oct 2007 22:34:08 GMT
dorayme scribed:

>> As it is, you've hardly heard of me but I am
>> grateful and I would like to contribute instead of just lurking.
>
> There *are* other things you can do to help out. I for one can
> use a hand every now and then. How big are you? I sometimes need
> some big frightening rough types to pop around and have little
> chats with people here, I usually employ film stars but they are
> not cheap...

This guy seems a cut above the normal manual-moron types you normally
seduce for your feminine machinations, dearie.

--
Neredbojias
http://www.neredbojias.com/_u/numanumayei_c.m3u

Re: Server-specific strangeness? THANKS

Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Wed, 17 Oct 2007 23:29:57
GMT Neredbojias scribed:

>>> As it is, you've hardly heard of me but I am
>>> grateful and I would like to contribute instead of just lurking.
>>
>> There *are* other things you can do to help out. I for one can
>> use a hand every now and then. How big are you? I sometimes need
>> some big frightening rough types to pop around and have little
>> chats with people here, I usually employ film stars but they are
>> not cheap...
>
> This guy seems a cut above the normal manual-moron types you normally
> seduce for your feminine machinations, dearie.

Actually, I'm just checking my sig, so don't give me no lip.

--
Neredbojias
http://www.neredbojias.com/_u/numanumayei.aac

Re: Server-specific strangeness? THANKS

Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Wed, 17 Oct 2007 23:42:40 GMT
Neredbojias scribed:


> Actually, I'm just checking my sig, so don't give me no lip.

- Specifically, this url:

http://www.neredbojias.com/_u/numanumayei_c.m3u

which doesn't seem to work, at least in the sig.

--
Neredbojias
http://www.neredbojias.com/_u/numanumayei.aac

Re: Server-specific strangeness? THANKS

In article ,
Neredbojias wrote:

> Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Wed, 17 Oct 2007 22:34:08 GMT
> dorayme scribed:
>
> >> As it is, you've hardly heard of me but I am
> >> grateful and I would like to contribute instead of just lurking.
> >
> > There *are* other things you can do to help out. I for one can
> > use a hand every now and then. How big are you? I sometimes need
> > some big frightening rough types to pop around and have little
> > chats with people here, I usually employ film stars but they are
> > not cheap...
>
> This guy seems a cut above the normal manual-moron types you normally
> seduce for your feminine machinations, dearie.

Like you, you mean, ape-man? Anybody is a cut above things in
your eyes if they are submissive enough. Go get your
Neanderthalic baseball bat and see what you can budgeon. I'm busy
this morning.

--
dorayme

Re: Server-specific strangeness? THANKS

In article ,
Neredbojias wrote:

> Actually, I'm just checking my sig, so don't give me no lip.

Too late mate...

--
dorayme

Re: Server-specific strangeness? THANKS

Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Thu, 18 Oct 2007 02:53:01
GMT dorayme scribed:

>> Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Wed, 17 Oct 2007
>> 22:34:08 GMT dorayme scribed:
>>
>> >> As it is, you've hardly heard of me but I am
>> >> grateful and I would like to contribute instead of just lurking.
>> >
>> > There *are* other things you can do to help out. I for one can
>> > use a hand every now and then. How big are you? I sometimes need
>> > some big frightening rough types to pop around and have little
>> > chats with people here, I usually employ film stars but they are
>> > not cheap...
>>
>> This guy seems a cut above the normal manual-moron types you normally
>> seduce for your feminine machinations, dearie.
>
> Like you, you mean, ape-man? Anybody is a cut above things in
> your eyes if they are submissive enough.

Uh, how did you deduce this? Seems a bit of a non-sequitir from here.

> Go get your
> Neanderthalic baseball bat and see what you can budgeon. I'm busy
> this morning.

Cro Magnons are definitely not Neanderthals. In fact, except for a
slightly larger cranial capacity, they are indistinguishable from modern
man. Of course, an astute observer might detect disparities in the women,
but at least the males managed to hold the line overall.

--
Neredbojias
http://www.neredbojias.com/_u/numanumayei.aac

Re: Server-specific strangeness? THANKS

In article ,
Neredbojias wrote:

> how did you deduce this? Seems a bit of a non-sequitir from here.

Would you know a deduction from an induction from a reduction
from an abduction?

--
dorayme

Re: Server-specific strangeness? THANKS

In article ,
Neredbojias wrote:

> Uh, how did you deduce this?

OK Boji, time to probe your brain again. You refused a while back
to send me a little sample for discreet and private analysis. How
about looking at:

http://tinyurl.com/3bszv6

and saying which way the dancer moves for you?

--
dorayme

Re: Server-specific strangeness? THANKS

Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Thu, 18 Oct 2007 06:46:09 GMT
dorayme scribed:

> In article ,
> Neredbojias wrote:
>
>> how did you deduce this? Seems a bit of a non-sequitir from here.
>
> Would you know a deduction from an induction from a reduction
> from an abduction?

Between the 2 of us, who would you say has a better grasp of the English
language? I'm not pointing this out just to "rub it in", although as a
woman you should be used to coming in second.

--
Neredbojias
http://www.neredbojias.com/_u/numanumayei.aac

Re: Server-specific strangeness? THANKS

Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Thu, 18 Oct 2007 07:19:31 GMT
dorayme scribed:

>> Uh, how did you deduce this?
>
> OK Boji, time to probe your brain again. You refused a while back
> to send me a little sample for discreet and private analysis. How
> about looking at:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/3bszv6
>
> and saying which way the dancer moves for you?

Hey, cool link.

Okay, I seem to fit in the majority class. From a top perspective, the
dancer appears to rotate counter-clockwise (to me). I tried focusing to
get the direction to change, but no good. However, I did notice that she
had nice tits. Does this make me a MCP or just observant?

--
Neredbojias
http://www.neredbojias.com/_u/numanumayei.aac

Re: Server-specific strangeness? THANKS

In article ,
Neredbojias wrote:

> Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Thu, 18 Oct 2007 06:46:09 GMT
> dorayme scribed:
>
> > In article ,
> > Neredbojias wrote:
> >
> >> how did you deduce this? Seems a bit of a non-sequitir from here.
> >
> > Would you know a deduction from an induction from a reduction
> > from an abduction?
>
> Between the 2 of us, who would you say has a better grasp of the English
> language? I'm not pointing this out just to "rub it in", although as a
> woman you should be used to coming in second.

Yeah, well, as a schoolboy, I am going to corner you today near
that old Elm tree and make you drink frog soup which I made in Mr
Castle's 4a science class Wed avo prac session. You won't be so
brazen then...

--
dorayme

Re: Server-specific strangeness? THANKS

In article ,
Neredbojias wrote:

> Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Thu, 18 Oct 2007 07:19:31 GMT
> dorayme scribed:
>
> >> Uh, how did you deduce this?
> >
> > OK Boji, time to probe your brain again. You refused a while back
> > to send me a little sample for discreet and private analysis. How
> > about looking at:
> >
> > http://tinyurl.com/3bszv6
> >
> > and saying which way the dancer moves for you?
>
> Hey, cool link.
>
> Okay, I seem to fit in the majority class. From a top perspective, the
> dancer appears to rotate counter-clockwise (to me). I tried focusing to
> get the direction to change, but no good.

This morning for me it is clockwise - predominantly, but it has
switched more easily at other times of the day to counter
clockwise. The bit about the left and right brain in relation to
this sounds like horseshit to me. (if you look at the figure by
turning your head sideways or putting the animation on the page
at 90 degrees, it will roll as if a wheel coming towards you or a
wheel moving away from you. Maybe the newspapers could find a
psychologist with a theory about the top and bottom preponderance
of the brain)

--
dorayme

Re: Server-specific strangeness? THANKS

Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Thu, 18 Oct 2007 20:13:06
GMT dorayme scribed:

>> >> how did you deduce this? Seems a bit of a non-sequitir from here.
>> >
>> > Would you know a deduction from an induction from a reduction
>> > from an abduction?
>>
>> Between the 2 of us, who would you say has a better grasp of the
>> English language? I'm not pointing this out just to "rub it in",
>> although as a woman you should be used to coming in second.
>
> Yeah, well, as a schoolboy, I am going to corner you today near
> that old Elm tree and make you drink frog soup which I made in Mr
> Castle's 4a science class Wed avo prac session.

Hehehe - frog soup. Sounds lovely. Of course then if some beautiful,
young princess came along and kissed me, maybe I'd regurgitate ambrosia.

> You won't be so
> brazen then...

Yeah, that'd cure me...

--
Neredbojias

Re: Server-specific strangeness? THANKS

Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Thu, 18 Oct 2007 20:13:06
GMT dorayme scribed:

>> >> how did you deduce this? Seems a bit of a non-sequitir from here.
>> >
>> > Would you know a deduction from an induction from a reduction
>> > from an abduction?
>>
>> Between the 2 of us, who would you say has a better grasp of the
>> English language? I'm not pointing this out just to "rub it in",
>> although as a woman you should be used to coming in second.
>
> Yeah, well, as a schoolboy, I am going to corner you today near
> that old Elm tree and make you drink frog soup which I made in Mr
> Castle's 4a science class Wed avo prac session.

Hehehe - frog soup. Sounds lovely. Of course then if some beautiful,
young princess came along and kissed me, maybe I'd regurgitate ambrosia.

> You won't be so
> brazen then...

Yeah, that'd cure me...

--
Neredbojias

Re: Server-specific strangeness? THANKS

Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Thu, 18 Oct 2007 20:38:40
GMT dorayme scribed:

>> > http://tinyurl.com/3bszv6
>> >
>> > and saying which way the dancer moves for you?
>>
>> Hey, cool link.
>>
>> Okay, I seem to fit in the majority class. From a top perspective,
>> the dancer appears to rotate counter-clockwise (to me). I tried
>> focusing to get the direction to change, but no good.
>
> This morning for me it is clockwise - predominantly, but it has
> switched more easily at other times of the day to counter
> clockwise. The bit about the left and right brain in relation to
> this sounds like horseshit to me. (if you look at the figure by
> turning your head sideways or putting the animation on the page
> at 90 degrees, it will roll as if a wheel coming towards you or a
> wheel moving away from you.

Hey, I'll have to try that. I did tilt my head slightly, but not 90
degrees. As for the associations, they're probably like astrology
somewhat. Could be a bit of a correspondence in relation to brain
hemisphere but still mostly random coincidence.

> Maybe the newspapers could find a
> psychologist with a theory about the top and bottom preponderance
> of the brain)

What would be interesting to find out is if alternating between these
states made one schizophrenic or just good in bed.

--
Neredbojias

Re: Server-specific strangeness? THANKS

In article ,
Neredbojias wrote:

> What would be interesting to find out is if alternating between these
> states made one schizophrenic or just good in bed.

Everything just comes back to the same thing for you.

This is why I urgently need a sample of your brain for testing. A
little scoop will do, a small teaspoon shoved in the ear-hole and
its done, pop it into one of the little yellow-topped plastic
jars docs give you to provide samples and post to me straight
away.

--
dorayme

Re: Server-specific strangeness? THANKS

Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Fri, 19 Oct 2007 08:24:45 GMT
dorayme scribed:

>> What would be interesting to find out is if alternating between these
>> states made one schizophrenic or just good in bed.
>
> Everything just comes back to the same thing for you.

What? Antidisestablishmentarianism?

> This is why I urgently need a sample of your brain for testing. A
> little scoop will do, a small teaspoon shoved in the ear-hole and
> its done, pop it into one of the little yellow-topped plastic
> jars docs give you to provide samples and post to me straight
> away.

And what do I get for giving you part of me?

--
Neredbojias

Re: Server-specific strangeness? THANKS

In article ,
Neredbojias wrote:

> > This is why I urgently need a sample of your brain for testing. A
> > little scoop will do, a small teaspoon shoved in the ear-hole and
> > its done, pop it into one of the little yellow-topped plastic
> > jars docs give you to provide samples and post to me straight
> > away.
>
> And what do I get for giving you part of me?

A lesser beating by Officer Bud White. That's the best I can
offer.

--
dorayme

Re: Server-specific strangeness? THANKS

Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Fri, 19 Oct 2007 22:24:46 GMT
dorayme scribed:

> In article ,
> Neredbojias wrote:
>
>> > This is why I urgently need a sample of your brain for testing. A
>> > little scoop will do, a small teaspoon shoved in the ear-hole and
>> > its done, pop it into one of the little yellow-topped plastic
>> > jars docs give you to provide samples and post to me straight
>> > away.
>>
>> And what do I get for giving you part of me?
>
> A lesser beating by Officer Bud White. That's the best I can
> offer.

Well, let's see, it's a, uh, tempting offer. One thing remains to be
considered, however. Who pays the postage?

--
Neredbojias

Re: Server-specific strangeness? THANKS

In article ,
Neredbojias wrote:

> Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Fri, 19 Oct 2007 22:24:46 GMT
> dorayme scribed:
>
> > In article ,
> > Neredbojias wrote:
> >
> >> > This is why I urgently need a sample of your brain for testing. A
> >> > little scoop will do, a small teaspoon shoved in the ear-hole and
> >> > its done, pop it into one of the little yellow-topped plastic
> >> > jars docs give you to provide samples and post to me straight
> >> > away.
> >>
> >> And what do I get for giving you part of me?
> >
> > A lesser beating by Officer Bud White. That's the best I can
> > offer.
>
> Well, let's see, it's a, uh, tempting offer. One thing remains to be
> considered, however. Who pays the postage?

Officer White, of course. He will stand over you and look at your
sorry ass on the ground and throw you some coins as he turns away
in disgust and leaves...

--
dorayme

Re: Server-specific strangeness? THANKS

Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Sat, 20 Oct 2007 02:50:56
GMT dorayme scribed:

>> >> And what do I get for giving you part of me?
>> >
>> > A lesser beating by Officer Bud White. That's the best I can
>> > offer.
>>
>> Well, let's see, it's a, uh, tempting offer. One thing remains to be
>> considered, however. Who pays the postage?
>
> Officer White, of course. He will stand over you and look at your
> sorry ass on the ground and throw you some coins as he turns away
> in disgust and leaves...

Oh, that'll never do. I cannot accept money from strangers.

--
Neredbojias

The 16th century French satirical writer François Rabelais in his series of
novels Gargantua and Pantagruel, discussing the various ways of cleansing
oneself at the toilet, wrote that: "He who uses paper on his filthy bum,
will always find his ballocks lined with scum."