Crap

I'm glad you got that message. Something's kafluey at this end; all of a
sudden this POS won't reply. I ~think~ it's the server, but who knows? I
can post a new message easy enough - which is what it did 2 back, using the
re: as the subject, but when I try to reply directly, it goes into "waiting
for conformation" mode and dies (Xnews). I even cleared all the headers
and reloaded them new, but same thing. The server is UsenetMonster, and I
notice a lot of time it doubles other's posts for some reason (ie: lists
them twice.)

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Re: Crap

Neredbojias wrote:
> I'm glad you got that message. Something's kafluey at this end; all
> of a sudden this POS won't reply. I ~think~ it's the server, but who
> knows? I can post a new message easy enough - which is what it did 2
> back, using the re: as the subject, but when I try to reply directly,
> it goes into "waiting for conformation" mode and dies (Xnews). I even
> cleared all the headers and reloaded them new, but same thing. The
> server is UsenetMonster, and I notice a lot of time it doubles other's
> posts for some reason (ie: lists them twice.)

To start looking for where the issue is, try another server. Try
http://aioe.org -- free, no signup necessary, no auth. Good for
testing. Servers: news.aioe.org and nntp.aioe.org


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Re: Crap

Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Wed, 17 Oct 2007 03:27:58
GMT Blinky the Shark scribed:

> Neredbojias wrote:
>> I'm glad you got that message. Something's kafluey at this end; all
>> of a sudden this POS won't reply. I ~think~ it's the server, but who
>> knows? I can post a new message easy enough - which is what it did 2
>> back, using the re: as the subject, but when I try to reply directly,
>> it goes into "waiting for conformation" mode and dies (Xnews). I even
>> cleared all the headers and reloaded them new, but same thing. The
>> server is UsenetMonster, and I notice a lot of time it doubles other's
>> posts for some reason (ie: lists them twice.)
>
> To start looking for where the issue is, try another server. Try
> http://aioe.org -- free, no signup necessary, no auth. Good for
> testing. Servers: news.aioe.org and nntp.aioe.org

> news.aioe.org
> nntp.aioe.org

> I'm glad you got that message. Something's kafluey at this end; all
> of a sudden this POS won't reply. I ~think~ it's the server, but who
> knows? I can post a new message easy enough - which is what it did 2
> back, using the re: as the subject, but when I try to reply directly,
> it goes into "waiting for conformation" mode and dies (Xnews). I even
> cleared all the headers and reloaded them new, but same thing. The
> server is UsenetMonster, and I notice a lot of time it doubles other's
> posts for some reason (ie: lists them twice.)

> (((Seems to be a size issue...)))
>
> I'll tell ya, Blinky, I'm really, really, really getting tired of all
> this fucking horseshit crap that works like shit because so many
> assholes are just too fucking dumb to make it work right! Now watch:
> I'll have to post this as "new" to get it through...
>
> Er, maybe you noticed I'm pissed off. Just remember: IQ means
> nothing. The Microsoft dipshits proved that. But so-called "street
> smarts" don't man alot, either, if the _proper_ attitude to excel is
> lacking concurrently.

Okay, here we go with a BIG reply. I'm on news.aioe.org. Seems to be
pretty good - esp. for free.

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Re: Crap

Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Wed, 17 Oct 2007 04:05:39 GMT
Neredbojias scribed:

>> snip BIG reply text.
>
> Okay, here we go with a BIG reply. I'm on news.aioe.org. Seems to be
> pretty good - esp. for free.

Yep, it worked, and I tried sending virtually the same reply with old
server and it _didn't_ work. Thanks mucho whalo for the links. Where do
you come up with this stuff? I've never seen a free news server and about
3-4 months ago I was lookin' hard.

Question: why am I paying $2.95/mo for a newsserver that works dubiously
at best?

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Half lies are worth twice as much as whole lies.

Re: Crap

Neredbojias wrote:
> Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Wed, 17 Oct 2007
> 03:27:58 GMT Blinky the Shark scribed:
>
>> Neredbojias wrote:
>>> I'm glad you got that message. Something's kafluey at this end; all
>>> of a sudden this POS won't reply. I ~think~ it's the server, but
>>> who knows? I can post a new message easy enough - which is what it
>>> did 2 back, using the re: as the subject, but when I try to reply
>>> directly, it goes into "waiting for conformation" mode and dies
>>> (Xnews). I even cleared all the headers and reloaded them new, but
>>> same thing. The server is UsenetMonster, and I notice a lot of time
>>> it doubles other's posts for some reason (ie: lists them twice.)
>>
>> To start looking for where the issue is, try another server. Try
>> http://aioe.org -- free, no signup necessary, no auth. Good for
>> testing. Servers: news.aioe.org and nntp.aioe.org
>
>> news.aioe.org nntp.aioe.org
>
>> I'm glad you got that message. Something's kafluey at this end; all
>> of a sudden this POS won't reply. I ~think~ it's the server, but who
>> knows? I can post a new message easy enough - which is what it did 2
>> back, using the re: as the subject, but when I try to reply directly,
>> it goes into "waiting for conformation" mode and dies (Xnews). I
>> even cleared all the headers and reloaded them new, but same thing.
>> The server is UsenetMonster, and I notice a lot of time it doubles
>> other's posts for some reason (ie: lists them twice.)
>
>> (((Seems to be a size issue...)))
>>
>> I'll tell ya, Blinky, I'm really, really, really getting tired of all
>> this fucking horseshit crap that works like shit because so many
>> assholes are just too fucking dumb to make it work right! Now watch:
>> I'll have to post this as "new" to get it through...
>>
>> Er, maybe you noticed I'm pissed off. Just remember: IQ means
>> nothing. The Microsoft dipshits proved that. But so-called "street
>> smarts" don't man alot, either, if the _proper_ attitude to excel is
>> lacking concurrently.
>
> Okay, here we go with a BIG reply. I'm on news.aioe.org. Seems to be
> pretty good - esp. for free.

Now that the fire's out and you can post, let me add:

A better choice, in my opinion is news.motzarella.org. I do a lot of
Usenet, and I've seen evidence that aioe is kind of up-and-down. Also,
some servers block it; I don't know if it's spammy or kooky, but
remember, it *is* a no-registration-no-authorization server, so make of
that what you will. Motzarella requires reg/auth (FREE), but now that
you're back on Usenet you can wait a few hours or a day for that.
Summary: suggest you get motzarella.org going and when it's set up move
there.

Glad to see you back; glad I could be of assistance.


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Re: Crap

Blinky the Shark wrote:

> Neredbojias wrote:

>> Okay, here we go with a BIG reply. I'm on news.aioe.org. Seems to be
>> pretty good - esp. for free.
>
> Now that the fire's out and you can post, let me add:
>
> A better choice, in my opinion is news.motzarella.org. I do a lot of
> Usenet, and I've seen evidence that aioe is kind of up-and-down. Also,
> some servers block it; I don't know if it's spammy or kooky, but
> remember, it *is* a no-registration-no-authorization server, so make of
> that what you will. Motzarella requires reg/auth (FREE), but now that
> you're back on Usenet you can wait a few hours or a day for that.
> Summary: suggest you get motzarella.org going and when it's set up move
> there.
>
> Glad to see you back; glad I could be of assistance.

Oink!

Incidentally, I have seven or so news servers set up (and I use them, to
various degrees, just to make sure my regisrations don't die for lack of
logging in for x months). One reason is to see what's out there, and one
reason is so that even though my primary server is rock solid I know shit
happens, and I don't ever want to be in the situation you found yourself
in tonight. My primary is news.individual.net, but I'm posting this from
motzarella.org. Point: it's always good to have more than one route you
can take to your destination; roadblock do sometimes happen.

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Re: Crap

Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Wed, 17 Oct 2007 04:21:56 GMT
Blinky the Shark scribed:

>> Glad to see you back; glad I could be of assistance.
>
> Oink!
>
> Incidentally, I have seven or so news servers set up (and I use them, to
> various degrees, just to make sure my regisrations don't die for lack of
> logging in for x months). One reason is to see what's out there, and one
> reason is so that even though my primary server is rock solid I know shit
> happens, and I don't ever want to be in the situation you found yourself
> in tonight. My primary is news.individual.net, but I'm posting this from
> motzarella.org. Point: it's always good to have more than one route you
> can take to your destination; roadblock do sometimes happen.

Agree 100%, and tomorrow I'll check into Motzarella as you recommend.
Right now I'm just a little too exasperated to be cool and calm like my
usual charming self.

Thanks again for the help.

--
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Half lies are worth twice as much as whole lies.

Re: Crap

Neredbojias wrote:

> Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Wed, 17 Oct 2007 04:05:39 GMT
> Neredbojias scribed:
>
>>> snip BIG reply text.
>>
>> Okay, here we go with a BIG reply. I'm on news.aioe.org. Seems to be
>> pretty good - esp. for free.
>
> Yep, it worked, and I tried sending virtually the same reply with old
> server and it _didn't_ work. Thanks mucho whalo for the links. Where do
> you come up with this stuff? I've never seen a free news server and about
> 3-4 months ago I was lookin' hard.

See another post (the one I tagged as a piggyback to another of my posts
in one of the Crap threads. I sent that from motzarella.org; this
is from aioe.org. :)

> Question: why am I paying $2.95/mo for a newsserver that works
> dubiously at best?

I dunno. :)

My primary, news.individual.net is a pay account, but it's US$14 a *year*.

It doesn't have binaries, but that's okay with me. Other than that it's
full-service. And has very responsive support -- I've reported a couple
newsgroup floods and seen an email reply and new filters kicking in within
minutes, for example.


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Re: Crap

Neredbojias wrote:

> Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Wed, 17 Oct 2007 04:21:56 GMT
> Blinky the Shark scribed:
>
>>> Glad to see you back; glad I could be of assistance.
>>
>> Oink!
>>
>> Incidentally, I have seven or so news servers set up (and I use them, to
>> various degrees, just to make sure my regisrations don't die for lack of
>> logging in for x months). One reason is to see what's out there, and one
>> reason is so that even though my primary server is rock solid I know shit
>> happens, and I don't ever want to be in the situation you found yourself
>> in tonight. My primary is news.individual.net, but I'm posting this from
>> motzarella.org. Point: it's always good to have more than one route you
>> can take to your destination; roadblock do sometimes happen.
>
> Agree 100%, and tomorrow I'll check into Motzarella as you recommend.
> Right now I'm just a little too exasperated to be cool and calm like my
> usual charming self.

No reason to remain exasperated; the fire's out, the issue's over. :)

I'm posting this from Comcast, and I don't even have an account there. :)

> Thanks again for the help.

It was my pleasure. Have fun with motzarella.

Go, start your registration there. Now. ;)

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Re: Crap

On 2007-10-17, Blinky the Shark wrote:

[...]

> My primary, news.individual.net is a pay account, but it's US$14 a *year*.
>
> It doesn't have binaries, but that's okay with me. Other than that it's
> full-service. And has very responsive support -- I've reported a couple
> newsgroup floods and seen an email reply and new filters kicking in within
> minutes, for example.

Second that. I have been with them for a month only and I am most
impressed. Is it a German thing?

Andrew

--
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from the darkness of those days there are yet some in which
amid weeping there is joy and under the shadow of death light
endures ...

Re: Crap

andrew wrote:
> On 2007-10-17, Blinky the Shark wrote:
>
> [...]
>
>> My primary, news.individual.net is a pay account, but it's US$14 a *year*.
>>
>> It doesn't have binaries, but that's okay with me. Other than that it's
>> full-service. And has very responsive support -- I've reported a couple
>> newsgroup floods and seen an email reply and new filters kicking in within
>> minutes, for example.
>
> Second that. I have been with them for a month only and I am most
> impressed. Is it a German thing?

Yes; it's a university in Berlin.


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Re: Crap

Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Wed, 17 Oct 2007 04:30:47
GMT Blinky the Shark scribed:

>>> Incidentally, I have seven or so news servers set up (and I use
>>> them, to various degrees, just to make sure my regisrations don't
>>> die for lack of logging in for x months). One reason is to see
>>> what's out there, and one reason is so that even though my primary
>>> server is rock solid I know shit happens, and I don't ever want to
>>> be in the situation you found yourself in tonight. My primary is
>>> news.individual.net, but I'm posting this from motzarella.org.
>>> Point: it's always good to have more than one route you can take to
>>> your destination; roadblock do sometimes happen.
>>
>> Agree 100%, and tomorrow I'll check into Motzarella as you recommend.
>> Right now I'm just a little too exasperated to be cool and calm like
>> my usual charming self.
>
> No reason to remain exasperated; the fire's out, the issue's over. :)
>
> I'm posting this from Comcast, and I don't even have an account there.
> :)
>
>> Thanks again for the help.
>
> It was my pleasure. Have fun with motzarella.
>
> Go, start your registration there. Now. ;)

I'm on motzarella now and this is my first post but so far things seem
"hunky". Will check it (this post) and then try doin' a little normal n-
groupin'.

I tried individual.net once but there was an additional percentage added to
the costs for cc usage (for me at least in the USA) which wasn't mentioned
up front, so I abandoned it.

--
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Half lies are worth twice as much as whole lies.

Re: Crap

Neredbojias wrote:
> Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Wed, 17 Oct 2007 04:30:47
> GMT Blinky the Shark scribed:
>
>>>> Incidentally, I have seven or so news servers set up (and I use
>>>> them, to various degrees, just to make sure my regisrations don't
>>>> die for lack of logging in for x months). One reason is to see
>>>> what's out there, and one reason is so that even though my primary
>>>> server is rock solid I know shit happens, and I don't ever want to
>>>> be in the situation you found yourself in tonight. My primary is
>>>> news.individual.net, but I'm posting this from motzarella.org.
>>>> Point: it's always good to have more than one route you can take to
>>>> your destination; roadblock do sometimes happen.
>>>
>>> Agree 100%, and tomorrow I'll check into Motzarella as you recommend.
>>> Right now I'm just a little too exasperated to be cool and calm like
>>> my usual charming self.
>>
>> No reason to remain exasperated; the fire's out, the issue's over. :)
>>
>> I'm posting this from Comcast, and I don't even have an account there.
>> :)
>>
>>> Thanks again for the help.
>>
>> It was my pleasure. Have fun with motzarella.
>>
>> Go, start your registration there. Now. ;)
>
> I'm on motzarella now and this is my first post but so far things seem
> "hunky". Will check it (this post) and then try doin' a little normal n-
> groupin'.

Welcome back, second time. :)

> I tried individual.net once but there was an additional percentage added to
> the costs for cc usage (for me at least in the USA) which wasn't mentioned
> up front, so I abandoned it.

I've never been charged additional for using CC with them.

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Re: Crap

Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Wed, 17 Oct 2007 17:19:20
GMT Blinky the Shark scribed:

>> I'm on motzarella now and this is my first post but so far things
>> seem "hunky". Will check it (this post) and then try doin' a little
>> normal n- groupin'.
>
> Welcome back, second time. :)

Merci beaucoup beaucoup.

>> I tried individual.net once but there was an additional percentage
>> added to the costs for cc usage (for me at least in the USA) which
>> wasn't mentioned up front, so I abandoned it.
>
> I've never been charged additional for using CC with them.

I think you, I, and someone else had a discussion about that then. I was,
and the only reason it didn't "go through" is because I failed to provide
the requested verification.

Anyway, as long as there's free stuff available, why pay? I'm nothing if
not cheap.

--
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Half lies are worth twice as much as whole lies.

Re: Crap

"Blinky the Shark" wrote in message
news:slrnfhb0ao.jc0.no.spam@thurston.blinkynet.net...
> To start looking for where the issue is, try another server. Try
> http://aioe.org -- free, no signup necessary, no auth. Good for
> testing. Servers: news.aioe.org and nntp.aioe.org



Many thanks. Very straightforward.
Top tip.

John

Re: Crap

John Clayton wrote:
>
> "Blinky the Shark" wrote in message
> news:slrnfhb0ao.jc0.no.spam@thurston.blinkynet.net...
>> To start looking for where the issue is, try another server. Try
>> http://aioe.org -- free, no signup necessary, no auth. Good for
>> testing. Servers: news.aioe.org and nntp.aioe.org
>
> Many thanks. Very straightforward.
> Top tip.

My pleasure!

Note, John, that my recommendation of aioe.org was because it was the
quickest way to get him a working connection because it requires no
registration. Once he was up, there, I steered him to
http://news.motzarella.org, which takes a bit longer becuase it
requires (free, noninvasive) registration, but which from what I've
read in various groups focused on Usenet itself and servers in
particular motzarella is more solid than aioe.


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Re: Crap

"Neredbojias" wrote in message
news:Xns99CC5583A1113nanopandaneredbojias@85.214.62.108...
> Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Wed, 17 Oct 2007 04:30:47
> GMT Blinky the Shark scribed:
>
>>>> Incidentally, I have seven or so news servers set up (and I use
>>>> them, to various degrees, just to make sure my regisrations don't
>>>> die for lack of logging in for x months). One reason is to see
>>>> what's out there, and one reason is so that even though my primary
>>>> server is rock solid I know shit happens, and I don't ever want to
>>>> be in the situation you found yourself in tonight. My primary is
>>>> news.individual.net, but I'm posting this from motzarella.org.
>>>> Point: it's always good to have more than one route you can take to
>>>> your destination; roadblock do sometimes happen.
>>>
>>> Agree 100%, and tomorrow I'll check into Motzarella as you recommend.
>>> Right now I'm just a little too exasperated to be cool and calm like
>>> my usual charming self.
>>
>> No reason to remain exasperated; the fire's out, the issue's over. :)
>>
>> I'm posting this from Comcast, and I don't even have an account there.
>> :)
>>
>>> Thanks again for the help.
>>
>> It was my pleasure. Have fun with motzarella.
>>
>> Go, start your registration there. Now. ;)
>
> I'm on motzarella now and this is my first post but so far things seem
> "hunky". Will check it (this post) and then try doin' a little normal n-
> groupin'.
>
> I tried individual.net once but there was an additional percentage added
> to
> the costs for cc usage (for me at least in the USA) which wasn't mentioned
> up front, so I abandoned it.


I am posting from news.cablerocket.com. I had an account with the cable
company they are affiliated with a year ago in a different state. They're
pretty decent.

Charlie

Re: Crap

Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Fri, 19 Oct 2007 00:52:43
GMT Charlie scribed:

>>> Go, start your registration there. Now. ;)
>>
>> I'm on motzarella now and this is my first post but so far things
>> seem "hunky". Will check it (this post) and then try doin' a little
>> normal n- groupin'.
>>
>> I tried individual.net once but there was an additional percentage
>> added to
>> the costs for cc usage (for me at least in the USA) which wasn't
>> mentioned up front, so I abandoned it.
>
>
> I am posting from news.cablerocket.com. I had an account with the
> cable company they are affiliated with a year ago in a different
> state. They're pretty decent.

Is there a cost involved or is it a free service?

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Re: Crap

Neredbojias wrote:

> Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Fri, 19 Oct 2007 00:52:43
> GMT Charlie scribed:
>
>>>> Go, start your registration there. Now. ;)
>>>
>>> I'm on motzarella now and this is my first post but so far things
>>> seem "hunky". Will check it (this post) and then try doin' a little
>>> normal n- groupin'.
>>>
>>> I tried individual.net once but there was an additional percentage
>>> added to
>>> the costs for cc usage (for me at least in the USA) which wasn't
>>> mentioned up front, so I abandoned it.
>>
>>
>> I am posting from news.cablerocket.com. I had an account with the
>> cable company they are affiliated with a year ago in a different
>> state. They're pretty decent.
>
> Is there a cost involved or is it a free service?

1. Never heard of them before -- Cablerocket is an ISP.



2. This post is via that server. No registration; no authorization;
no cost -- these things are probably not intentional, and eventually they
might wake up. :)


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Re: Crap

Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Fri, 19 Oct 2007 10:02:32 GMT
Blinky the Shark scribed:

>>> I am posting from news.cablerocket.com. I had an account with the
>>> cable company they are affiliated with a year ago in a different
>>> state. They're pretty decent.
>>
>> Is there a cost involved or is it a free service?
>
> 1. Never heard of them before -- Cablerocket is an ISP.
>
>
>
> 2. This post is via that server. No registration; no authorization;
> no cost -- these things are probably not intentional, and eventually they
> might wake up. :)

Perhaps the service is via the isp?

--
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Re: Crap

Neredbojias wrote:
> Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Fri, 19 Oct 2007 10:02:32 GMT
> Blinky the Shark scribed:
>
>>>> I am posting from news.cablerocket.com. I had an account with the
>>>> cable company they are affiliated with a year ago in a different
>>>> state. They're pretty decent.
>>>
>>> Is there a cost involved or is it a free service?
>>
>> 1. Never heard of them before -- Cablerocket is an ISP.
>>
>>
>>
>> 2. This post is via that server. No registration; no authorization;
>> no cost -- these things are probably not intentional, and eventually they
>> might wake up. :)
>
> Perhaps the service is via the isp?

See 1., above.

See 2, above -- whoever it is, they're wide open and therefore probably
a great spam source.

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Re: Crap

Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Fri, 19 Oct 2007 17:25:46
GMT Blinky the Shark scribed:

>>>>> I am posting from news.cablerocket.com. I had an account with the
>>>>> cable company they are affiliated with a year ago in a different
>>>>> state. They're pretty decent.
>>>>
>>>> Is there a cost involved or is it a free service?
>>>
>>> 1. Never heard of them before -- Cablerocket is an ISP.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2. This post is via that server. No registration; no
>>> authorization; no cost -- these things are probably not intentional,
>>> and eventually they might wake up. :)
>>
>> Perhaps the service is via the isp?
>
> See 1., above.
>
> See 2, above -- whoever it is, they're wide open and therefore
> probably a great spam source.

So I guess the OP was just talking about the news service provided by an
isp called cablerocket. My old dial-up isp had a non-passworded news
service, too, so presumably anyone could use it - I guess.

--
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Re: Crap

On Sat, 20 Oct 2007 02:36:50 +0000, Neredbojias writ:

> My old dial-up isp had a non-passworded news
> service, too, so presumably anyone could use it - I guess.

More likely they went by IP ranges, like mine.

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Re: Crap

freemont wrote:

> On Sat, 20 Oct 2007 02:36:50 +0000, Neredbojias writ:
>
>> My old dial-up isp had a non-passworded news
>> service, too, so presumably anyone could use it - I guess.
>
> More likely they went by IP ranges, like mine.

Probably. Unlike this rocketwhatever server whose mention created
this this thread branch.


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Re: Crap

Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Sat, 20 Oct 2007 13:46:48 GMT
freemont scribed:

>> My old dial-up isp had a non-passworded news
>> service, too, so presumably anyone could use it - I guess.
>
> More likely they went by IP ranges, like mine.

Ahhh, since the IP is assigned thru them, -yada yada yada...

I ~think~ I get it.

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The 16th century French satirical writer François Rabelais in his series of
novels Gargantua and Pantagruel, discussing the various ways of cleansing
oneself at the toilet, wrote that: "He who uses paper on his filthy bum,
will always find his ballocks lined with scum"