applet or object?

am 18.10.2007 11:22:43 von JWS

This must surely be a FAQ, but Googling hasn't helped much so far.

I am trying to learn Java, because one of my pages needs an
applet. The question is: how to put the applet on the page, in
such a way that the applet works both in Mozilla and IE, *and* the
page still validates as HTML 4.01 strict.

I tried

which is valid html strict, it works in Mozilla (XP and Linux),
but IE7 only shows the fallback text.

If I say

You should have seen a Java applet that draws lines.

it works in Mozilla and IE7, but does not validate as html strict.
Is there a better way to do this, or should I just not bother and
be happy with validation as "transitional"?

Jan

Re: applet or object?

am 18.10.2007 14:24:45 von Neredbojias

Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Thu, 18 Oct 2007 09:22:43 GMT
JWS scribed:

> This must surely be a FAQ, but Googling hasn't helped much so far.
>
> I am trying to learn Java, because one of my pages needs an
> applet. The question is: how to put the applet on the page, in
> such a way that the applet works both in Mozilla and IE, *and* the
> page still validates as HTML 4.01 strict.
>
> I tried
>
>

>
>
> which is valid html strict, it works in Mozilla (XP and Linux),
> but IE7 only shows the fallback text.
>
> If I say
>
>

>
> You should have seen a Java applet that draws lines.
>
>
> it works in Mozilla and IE7, but does not validate as html strict.
> Is there a better way to do this, or should I just not bother and
> be happy with validation as "transitional"?

Insert the first example using some method to hide it from ie [which
probably would be javascript- or server-side scripting] and place the
second in an ie conditional comment.

--
Neredbojias
http://www.neredbojias.com/_u/numanumayei.aac

Re: applet or object?

am 18.10.2007 18:32:30 von JWS

Neredbojias wrote:
> JWS scribed:

>> it works in Mozilla and IE7, but does not validate as html
>> strict. Is there a better way to do this, or should I just
>> not bother and be happy with validation as "transitional"?
>
> Insert the first example using some method to hide it from ie
> [which probably would be javascript- or server-side scripting]
> and place the second in an ie conditional comment.

Seems too complicated! I guess I won't bother, then.

Thanks,
Jan

Re: applet or object?

am 21.10.2007 09:13:07 von royarneskar

On 18 Okt, 14:24, Neredbojias wrote:
> Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Thu, 18 Oct 2007 09:22:43 GMT
> JWS scribed:
>
>
>
> > This must surely be a FAQ, but Googling hasn't helped much so far.
>
> > I am trying to learn Java, because one of my pages needs an
> > applet. The question is: how to put the applet on the page, in
> > such a way that the applet works both in Mozilla and IE, *and* the
> > page still validates as HTML 4.01 strict.
>
> > I tried
>
> >

> >
>
> > which is valid html strict, it works in Mozilla (XP and Linux),
> > but IE7 only shows the fallback text.
>
> > If I say
>
> >

> >
> > You should have seen a Java applet that draws lines.
> >
>
> > it works in Mozilla and IE7, but does not validate as html strict.
> > Is there a better way to do this, or should I just not bother and
> > be happy with validation as "transitional"?
>
> Insert the first example using some method to hide it from ie [which
> probably would be javascript- or server-side scripting]

or an ie conditional comment?

....

> and place the
> second in an ie conditional comment.
>
> --
> Neredbojiashttp://www.neredbojias.com/_u/numanumayei.aac

Re: applet or object?

am 21.10.2007 09:17:46 von royarneskar

On 18 Okt, 11:22, JWS wrote:
> This must surely be a FAQ, but Googling hasn't helped much so far.
>
> I am trying to learn Java, because one of my pages needs an
> applet. The question is: how to put the applet on the page, in
> such a way that the applet works both in Mozilla and IE, *and* the
> page still validates as HTML 4.01 strict.
>
> I tried
>
>

>
>
> which is valid html strict, it works in Mozilla (XP and Linux),
> but IE7 only shows the fallback text.
>
> If I say
>
>

>
> You should have seen a Java applet that draws lines.
>
>
> it works in Mozilla and IE7, but does not validate as html strict.
> Is there a better way to do this, or should I just not bother and
> be happy with validation as "transitional"?

I think you can use the object element in IE7 too. Have a look at this
link:

http://joliclic.free.fr/html/object-tag/en/object-java.html

Re: applet or object?

am 22.10.2007 11:11:43 von JWS

Roy A. wrote:

> I think you can use the object element in IE7 too. Have a look
> at this link:
>
> http://joliclic.free.fr/html/object-tag/en/object-java.html

Thanks much! Something in that direction must be the solution. So
far I haven't been able to quite make it work yet, will report on
progress later.

Jan