Tables and graphics - size of <td>...

Hi

Click here abd you will see the problem:
http://enesetunne.planet.ee/uus/test.htm

A bunch of graphics parts, which makes up this folder.
The upper example is made of 2 columns in the top, which sizes the
first correctly, but the seconds not. The table in the is set to
width="100%". Still, I only get a few pixels at the end (and why at
the end, not right after the first part???)

The second one sizes correctly, but I'd like b0b.gif part to take up
all possible space, not the label.

I havn't done much like this before, only minor things.

Re: Tables and graphics - size of <td>...

In article
<1192783161.440485.244220@y27g2000pre.googlegroups.com>,
jodleren wrote:

> http://enesetunne.planet.ee/uus/test.htm

> A bunch of graphics parts, which makes up this folder.

What graphic parts? What is it that you want? In plain words
since the url does not help. What is the material you are wanting
to communicate to other earthlings on the internet?

_____________
(Have we got a case here where it would have been better *not* to
post a url?)

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dorayme

Re: Tables and graphics - size of <td>...

On Oct 19, 11:48 am, dorayme wrote:
> In article
> <1192783161.440485.244...@y27g2000pre.googlegroups.com>,
>
> jodleren wrote:
> >http://enesetunne.planet.ee/uus/test.htm
> > A bunch of graphics parts, which makes up this folder.
>
> What graphic parts? What is it that you want? In plain words
> since the url does not help. What is the material you are wanting
> to communicate to other earthlings on the internet?
>
> _____________
> (Have we got a case here where it would have been better *not* to
> post a url?)

Take a look at the code.

The line on the upper right part is missing - the "label" is correct,
then there should be the line above the folder (b0b), in the second


The in lower example, I'd just like to set a (5th, same b0b) to
use as much as possible - setting the label on top to the right, only
taking up the space it needs. The rest on the right side should be
left "empty", meaning the b0b and the c2 gifs should take up the rest
of the space.

WBR
Sonnich

Re: Tables and graphics - size of <td>...

"jodleren" wrote in message
news:1192783161.440485.244220@y27g2000pre.googlegroups.com.. .
> Hi
>
> Click here abd you will see the problem:
> http://enesetunne.planet.ee/uus/test.htm
>
> A bunch of graphics parts, which makes up this folder.

Hmmm. Why not use a CSS approach?

> The upper example is made of 2 columns in the top, which sizes the
> first correctly, but the seconds not. The table in the is set to
> width="100%". Still, I only get a few pixels at the end (and why at
> the end, not right after the first part???)
>
> The second one sizes correctly, but I'd like b0b.gif part to take up
> all possible space, not the label.

Bump up your font size a notch or so. Your layout falls apart.

What exactly do you want? I have read all posts in this thread, including
doraymes, and it's not any clearer.

--
Richard.

Re: Tables and graphics - size of <td>...

In article
<1192784145.824520.161620@i38g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
jodleren wrote:

> On Oct 19, 11:48 am, dorayme wrote:
> > In article
> > <1192783161.440485.244...@y27g2000pre.googlegroups.com>,
> >
> > jodleren wrote:
> > >http://enesetunne.planet.ee/uus/test.htm
> > > A bunch of graphics parts, which makes up this folder.
> >
> > What graphic parts? What is it that you want? In plain words
> > since the url does not help. What is the material you are wanting
> > to communicate to other earthlings on the internet?
>
> Take a look at the code.

I looked at the code. What is it that you are trying to
communicate to people on the internet with this? What is it? What
is the context? Are you drawing pictures in html? What are you
doing?

--
dorayme

Re: Tables and graphics - size of <td>...

On Oct 19, 12:29 pm, dorayme wrote:
> In article
> <1192784145.824520.161...@i38g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
>
> jodleren wrote:
> > On Oct 19, 11:48 am, dorayme wrote:
> > > In article
> > > <1192783161.440485.244...@y27g2000pre.googlegroups.com>,
>
> > > jodleren wrote:
> > > >http://enesetunne.planet.ee/uus/test.htm
> > > > A bunch of graphics parts, which makes up this folder.
>
> > > What graphic parts? What is it that you want? In plain words
> > > since the url does not help. What is the material you are wanting
> > > to communicate to other earthlings on the internet?
>
> > Take a look at the code.
>
> I looked at the code. What is it that you are trying to
> communicate to people on the internet with this? What is it? What
> is the context? Are you drawing pictures in html? What are you
> doing?

It should be used for a form. Currently an idea, which _eventually_
might turn into tabs (as of now, there are no such plans)
The 4x test part and header will later be replaced with real stuff.
The "graphics" here is just a shell for it.

Whatever the contense, the problem as of now: the "line" / border
around the box (4x test) is complete on the bottom and the sides, but
the top next to the "tabbed header" is causing problems - graphics is
there, but it is no on the entire line. - meaning,
1) the top is 2x - the 2nd has a table with=100% in it. I need a
way to force the td in that table to take up space what is left over
from the remaining parts. Only 2 pixels for the corner, expected 50%
of the _main_ table - 2pixel. How can I expand that to the width
like e.g. frames, width="*"
2) I dont get why this thing is right aligned anyway? Within the TD/
table anything shold be left aligned - so when this fails, and my td
is very short, then why is the 2nd right aligned?

Re: Tables and graphics - size of <td>...

On Oct 19, 12:44 pm, jodleren wrote:
> On Oct 19, 12:29 pm, dorayme wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > In article
> > <1192784145.824520.161...@i38g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
>
> > jodleren wrote:
> > > On Oct 19, 11:48 am, dorayme wrote:
> > > > In article
> > > > <1192783161.440485.244...@y27g2000pre.googlegroups.com>,
>
> > > > jodleren wrote:
> > > > >http://enesetunne.planet.ee/uus/test.htm
> > > > > A bunch of graphics parts, which makes up this folder.
>
> > > > What graphic parts? What is it that you want? In plain words
> > > > since the url does not help. What is the material you are wanting
> > > > to communicate to other earthlings on the internet?
>
> > > Take a look at the code.
>
> > I looked at the code. What is it that you are trying to
> > communicate to people on the internet with this? What is it? What
> > is the context? Are you drawing pictures in html? What are you
> > doing?
>
> It should be used for a form. Currently an idea, which _eventually_
> might turn into tabs (as of now, there are no such plans)
> The 4x test part and header will later be replaced with real stuff.
> The "graphics" here is just a shell for it.
>
> Whatever the contense, the problem as of now: the "line" / border
> around the box (4x test) is complete on the bottom and the sides, but
> the top next to the "tabbed header" is causing problems - graphics is
> there, but it is no on the entire line. - meaning,
> 1) the top is 2x - the 2nd has a table with=100% in it. I need a
> way to force the td in that table to take up space what is left over
> from the remaining parts. Only 2 pixels for the corner, expected 50%
> of the _main_ table - 2pixel. How can I expand that to the width
> like e.g. frames, width="*"
> 2) I dont get why this thing is right aligned anyway? Within the TD/
> table anything shold be left aligned - so when this fails, and my td
> is very short, then why is the 2nd right aligned?- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

http://enesetunne.planet.ee/uus/example.jpg

On the upper example, the line is missing. That is what I am talking
about.

Re: Tables and graphics - size of <td>...

In article
,
dorayme wrote:

> In article
> <1192784145.824520.161620@i38g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
> jodleren wrote:
>
> > On Oct 19, 11:48 am, dorayme wrote:
> > > In article
> > > <1192783161.440485.244...@y27g2000pre.googlegroups.com>,
> > >
> > > jodleren wrote:
> > > >http://enesetunne.planet.ee/uus/test.htm
> > > > A bunch of graphics parts, which makes up this folder.
> > >
> > > What graphic parts? What is it that you want? In plain words
> > > since the url does not help. What is the material you are wanting
> > > to communicate to other earthlings on the internet?
> >
> > Take a look at the code.
>
> I looked at the code. What is it that you are trying to
> communicate to people on the internet with this? What is it? What
> is the context? Are you drawing pictures in html? What are you
> doing?

I drew a pic recently in html/css, a pic of a book as it
happened. It was in a childish context but never mind, the point
is sort of "Look Ma, no s and no tables..."



--
dorayme

Re: Tables and graphics - size of <td>...

In article
<1192787307.803882.36930@i38g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
jodleren wrote:

> http://enesetunne.planet.ee/uus/example.jpg
>
> On the upper example, the line is missing. That is what I am talking
> about.

I am not trying to be funny but my immediate thought is if you
are happy with the lower table, use that one!

As has been pointed out to you, if one changes the font size
(look at in some browser not IE and use the view menu to up the
text or alt +) all hell brakes loose. So it is hard to try to
solve some technical problem concerning it.

Especially as so much of the code is unnecessary (as they are
defaults) and also:

ne.planet.ee%2Fuus%2Ftest.htm>

Why are you using points for font size?

The point is this, when we see such a thing, we think, what is
the point of all this?

--
dorayme

Re: Tables and graphics - size of <td>...

Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Fri, 19 Oct 2007 08:39:21 GMT
jodleren scribed:

> Hi
>
> Click here abd you will see the problem:
> http://enesetunne.planet.ee/uus/test.htm
>
> A bunch of graphics parts, which makes up this folder.
> The upper example is made of 2 columns in the top, which sizes the
> first correctly, but the seconds not. The table in the is set to
> width="100%". Still, I only get a few pixels at the end (and why at
> the end, not right after the first part???)

Validation suggests an answer:

… cellpadding=0 cellspacing=0 border=0 width=100 % >?
You have used a character that is not considered a "name character" in an
attribute value. Which characters are considered "name characters" varies
between the different document types, but a good rule of thumb is that
unless the value contains only lower or upper case letters in the range a-z
you must put quotation marks around the value. In fact, unless you have
extreme file size requirements it is a very very good idea to always put
quote marks around your attribute values. It is never wrong to do so, and
very often it is absolutely necessary.

> The second one sizes correctly, but I'd like b0b.gif part to take up
> all possible space, not the label.
>
> I havn't done much like this before, only minor things.

There are other errors. You may wish to validate the page at:

http://validator.w3.org/

--
Neredbojias

Re: Tables and graphics - size of <td>...

Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Fri, 19 Oct 2007 08:39:21 GMT
jodleren scribed:

> Hi
>
> Click here abd you will see the problem:
> http://enesetunne.planet.ee/uus/test.htm
>
> A bunch of graphics parts, which makes up this folder.
> The upper example is made of 2 columns in the top, which sizes the
> first correctly, but the seconds not. The table in the is set to
> width="100%". Still, I only get a few pixels at the end (and why at
> the end, not right after the first part???)

Validation suggests an answer:

… cellpadding=0 cellspacing=0 border=0 width=100 % >?
You have used a character that is not considered a "name character" in an
attribute value. Which characters are considered "name characters" varies
between the different document types, but a good rule of thumb is that
unless the value contains only lower or upper case letters in the range a-z
you must put quotation marks around the value. In fact, unless you have
extreme file size requirements it is a very very good idea to always put
quote marks around your attribute values. It is never wrong to do so, and
very often it is absolutely necessary.

> The second one sizes correctly, but I'd like b0b.gif part to take up
> all possible space, not the label.
>
> I havn't done much like this before, only minor things.

There are other errors. You may wish to validate the page at:

http://validator.w3.org/

--
Neredbojias

Re: Tables and graphics - size of <td>...

In message <1192783161.440485.244220@y27g2000pre.googlegroups.com>,
jodleren writes

>Click here

I did. Nothing happened.

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