Please Can I Have Help Showing a Web Page Inside My Web Site

Hi All,

i am currently designing a website for my hockey club, i was thinking
of showing the curent league table, fixtures & results.

Then i heard that you can somehow embed another webpage into my page,
so to cut down on the up-keep of the site i think this would really
help as the pages are automatically updated. One of the pages i am
trying to display is

http://www.mrha.co.uk/LeagueTables.asp?leagueid=1&divisionid =3



Im stuck on how to do it, any help would be much appreciated.

Many Thanks in advance,

Ashley

Re: Please Can I Have Help Showing a Web Page Inside My Web Site

In article
<1193040307.860688.92630@v23g2000prn.googlegroups.com>,
AshParr@gmail.com wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> i am currently designing a website for my hockey club, i was thinking
> of showing the curent league table, fixtures & results.
>
> Then i heard that you can somehow embed another webpage into my page,
> so to cut down on the up-keep of the site i think this would really
> help as the pages are automatically updated. One of the pages i am
> trying to display is
>
> http://www.mrha.co.uk/LeagueTables.asp?leagueid=1&divisionid =3
>
>
>
> Im stuck on how to do it, any help would be much appreciated.
>
> Many Thanks in advance,
>
> Ashley

You can easily embed a slab of html code into any html file by
using "server side includes" or "php includes" (google up these).
This saves you from having to repeat a lot of code everywhere
(eg, menus that get repeated).

If you are wanting to get a whole webpage into another, you might
be thinking of the now outdated and not recommended technology of
HTML Frames. But you could be bold and go against the recommended
trends. Frames are very poor for bookmarking for users and have
other downsides. But they are fun! If you need a hand, give a
shout.

Automatic updating of a website is a very different and more
difficult ask. It mostly involves databases and php. Are you up
for this?

Why not get the basics right first. See:

..co.uk%2FLeagueTables.asp%3Fleagueid%3D1%26divisionid%3D3>

You won't like this advice, I would be wary of your "Microsoft
Visual Studio 6.0"

Consider Textwrangler and



instead.

--
dorayme

Re: Please Can I Have Help Showing a Web Page Inside My Web Site

On Oct 22, 9:51 am, dorayme wrote:
> In article
> <1193040307.860688.92...@v23g2000prn.googlegroups.com>,
>
>
>
>
>
> AshP...@gmail.com wrote:
> > Hi All,
>
> > i am currently designing a website for my hockey club, i was thinking
> > of showing the curent league table, fixtures & results.
>
> > Then i heard that you can somehow embed another webpage into my page,
> > so to cut down on the up-keep of the site i think this would really
> > help as the pages are automatically updated. One of the pages i am
> > trying to display is
>
> >http://www.mrha.co.uk/LeagueTables.asp?leagueid=1&divisioni d=3
>
> > Im stuck on how to do it, any help would be much appreciated.
>
> > Many Thanks in advance,
>
> > Ashley
>
> You can easily embed a slab of html code into any html file by
> using "server side includes" or "php includes" (google up these).
> This saves you from having to repeat a lot of code everywhere
> (eg, menus that get repeated).
>
> If you are wanting to get a whole webpage into another, you might
> be thinking of the now outdated and not recommended technology of
> HTML Frames. But you could be bold and go against the recommended
> trends. Frames are very poor for bookmarking for users and have
> other downsides. But they are fun! If you need a hand, give a
> shout.
>
> Automatic updating of a website is a very different and more
> difficult ask. It mostly involves databases and php. Are you up
> for this?
>
> Why not get the basics right first. See:
>
> > .co.uk%2FLeagueTables.asp%3Fleagueid%3D1%26divisionid%3D3>
>
> You won't like this advice, I would be wary of your "Microsoft
> Visual Studio 6.0"
>
> Consider Textwrangler and
>
>
>
> instead.
>
> --
> dorayme- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -


Thanks for the reply,

"You won't like this advice, I would be wary of your "Microsoft"
Visual Studio 6.0" " i havnt used this program.

i am not updating the page myself, the "mrha" group update there
website and i am just wanting to show that specific page inside one of
my pages, not using frames.

i have found this but dont really understand it

HTML:

type="text/html" data="some.html">

backup content

Re: Please Can I Have Help Showing a Web Page Inside My Web Site

On 22 Oct, 11:14, AshP...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Oct 22, 9:51 am, dorayme wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > In article
> > <1193040307.860688.92...@v23g2000prn.googlegroups.com>,
>
> > AshP...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > Hi All,
>
> > > i am currently designing a website for my hockey club, i was thinking
> > > of showing the curent league table, fixtures & results.
>
> > > Then i heard that you can somehow embed another webpage into my page,
> > > so to cut down on the up-keep of the site i think this would really
> > > help as the pages are automatically updated. One of the pages i am
> > > trying to display is
>
> > >http://www.mrha.co.uk/LeagueTables.asp?leagueid=1&divisioni d=3
>
> > > Im stuck on how to do it, any help would be much appreciated.
>
> > > Many Thanks in advance,
>
> > > Ashley
>
> > You can easily embed a slab of html code into any html file by
> > using "server side includes" or "php includes" (google up these).
> > This saves you from having to repeat a lot of code everywhere
> > (eg, menus that get repeated).
>
> > If you are wanting to get a whole webpage into another, you might
> > be thinking of the now outdated and not recommended technology of
> > HTML Frames. But you could be bold and go against the recommended
> > trends. Frames are very poor for bookmarking for users and have
> > other downsides. But they are fun! If you need a hand, give a
> > shout.
>
> > Automatic updating of a website is a very different and more
> > difficult ask. It mostly involves databases and php. Are you up
> > for this?
>
> > Why not get the basics right first. See:
>
> > > > .co.uk%2FLeagueTables.asp%3Fleagueid%3D1%26divisionid%3D3>
>
> > You won't like this advice, I would be wary of your "Microsoft
> > Visual Studio 6.0"
>
> > Consider Textwrangler and
>
> >
>
> > instead.
>
> > --
> > dorayme- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Thanks for the reply,
>
> "You won't like this advice, I would be wary of your "Microsoft"
> Visual Studio 6.0" " i havnt used this program.
>
> i am not updating the page myself, the "mrha" group update there
> website and i am just wanting to show that specific page inside one of
> my pages, not using frames.
>
> i have found this but dont really understand it
>
> HTML:
>
> > type="text/html" data="some.html">

backup content

Re: Please Can I Have Help Showing a Web Page Inside My Web Site

On Oct 22, 11:23 am, AshP...@gmail.com wrote:
> Show Website Within a Website:
>
>

Unhelpful alternative content. Avoid.

--
David Dorward
http://dorward.me.uk/
http://blog.dorward.me.uk/

Re: Please Can I Have Help Showing a Web Page Inside My Web Site

AshParr@gmail.com wrote:
>
> i am currently designing a website for my hockey club, i was thinking
> of showing the curent league table, fixtures & results.

I know what you're thinking, since I've done some web work for local
sports teams, too. The league keeps the schedules, scores and standings
on their own site. At first we tried duplicating it on our own site, but
it was too error prone. We finally just posted links to the league pages
that related to our team and left it at that.

> Then i heard that you can somehow embed another webpage into my page,

You can probably "embed" the pages from the league site using an iframe,
but you really must ask their permission before you do this. Otherwise
you are stealing their content and bandwidth. They might not like that.

--
Berg

Re: Please Can I Have Help Showing a Web Page Inside My Web Site

On Oct 22, 9:40 pm, Bergamot wrote:
> AshP...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > i am currently designing a website for my hockey club, i was thinking
> > of showing the curent league table, fixtures & results.
>
> I know what you're thinking, since I've done some web work for local
> sports teams, too. The league keeps the schedules, scores and standings
> on their own site. At first we tried duplicating it on our own site, but
> it was too error prone. We finally just posted links to the league pages
> that related to our team and left it at that.
>
> > Then i heard that you can somehow embed another webpage into my page,
>
> You can probably "embed" the pages from the league site using an iframe,
> but you really must ask their permission before you do this. Otherwise
> you are stealing their content and bandwidth. They might not like that.
>
> --
> Berg

Thankyou all for your responses,
later on i found information about iframes to and found that it does
what i want it to, are they not to be used? what are the affects if i
use them?

Re: Please Can I Have Help Showing a Web Page Inside My Web Site

AshParr@gmail.com wrote:
>
> later on i found information about iframes to and found that it does
> what i want it to, are they not to be used? what are the affects if i
> use them?

Look up "frames are evil". iframes have pretty much the same problems,
but they do have their uses. Like I said, if you decide to put the
league pages in your site through iframes, get their permission first.

--
Berg

Re: Please Can I Have Help Showing a Web Page Inside My Web Site

> Look up "frames are evil". iframes have pretty much the same problems,
> but they do have their uses. Like I said, if you decide to put the
> league pages in your site through iframes, get their permission first.
>
> --
> Berg


Thankyou berg,

I have emailed the owners/administrators of the site explaining what i
want to do and is it possible for me to show their information.

I know that frames may not be the best answer in most cases but for
this i see no other alternative. I can either:
- Show data in Iframe
- Just allow the user links to there site
- Update all of the fixtures, results & league tables every week
(Massive work load & maintenance involved)

If they allow me to show their data then i cannot see a better way to
do so, unless im being a noob :(

Many Thanks,
Ash

Re: Please Can I Have Help Showing a Web Page Inside My Web Site

AshP...@gmail.com wrote:
> > Look up "frames are evil". iframes have pretty much the same problems,
> > but they do have their uses. Like I said, if you decide to put the
> > league pages in your site through iframes, get their permission first.
> >
> > --
> > Berg
>
>
> Thankyou berg,
>
> I have emailed the owners/administrators of the site explaining what i
> want to do and is it possible for me to show their information.
>
> I know that frames may not be the best answer in most cases but for
> this i see no other alternative. I can either:
> - Show data in Iframe
> - Just allow the user links to there site
> - Update all of the fixtures, results & league tables every week
> (Massive work load & maintenance involved)
>
> If they allow me to show their data then i cannot see a better way to
> do so, unless im being a noob :(
>
> Many Thanks,
> Ash
You would probably be better off just linking to that page. Or just re-
write the data that you need.
--
Regards Chad. http://freewebdesign.awardspace.biz

Re: Please Can I Have Help Showing a Web Page Inside My Web Site

Chaddy2222 wrote:
> You would probably be better off just linking to that page. Or just re-
> write the data that you need.

You've apparently not worked on a sports team site before. :)
Rewriting the data can be a massive amount of work, and very error
prone. Linking to the league's site is OK, but the users really want the
info right there so they don't have to wade through the league site to
get what they want.

It would *really* be nice, though, if the league had something like an
RSS feed for each team and division. Then we could post updates on our
site as they became available and weed out what we don't want.

--
Berg

Re: Please Can I Have Help Showing a Web Page Inside My Web Site

In article <5o7d1fFlkokjU1@mid.individual.net>,
Bergamot wrote:

> Chaddy2222 wrote:
> > You would probably be better off just linking to that page. Or just re-
> > write the data that you need.
>
> You've apparently not worked on a sports team site before. :)
> Rewriting the data can be a massive amount of work, and very error
> prone. Linking to the league's site is OK, but the users really want the
> info right there so they don't have to wade through the league site to
> get what they want.
>
> It would *really* be nice, though, if the league had something like an
> RSS feed for each team and division. Then we could post updates on our
> site as they became available and weed out what we don't want.

If the league put in an id to the bit of the page with the
results and then a url could be fashioned that might help
pinpoint them easier. OP might consider asking for such small
insertions into the mark up of their pages (I have not looked if
they do or not)

Re: Please Can I Have Help Showing a Web Page Inside My Web Site

On Oct 24, 12:28 am, dorayme wrote:
> In article <5o7d1fFlkok...@mid.individual.net>,
>
> Bergamot wrote:
> > Chaddy2222 wrote:
> > > You would probably be better off just linking to that page. Or just re-
> > > write the data that you need.
>
> > You've apparently not worked on a sports team site before. :)
> > Rewriting the data can be a massive amount of work, and very error
> > prone. Linking to the league's site is OK, but the users really want the
> > info right there so they don't have to wade through the league site to
> > get what they want.
>
> > It would *really* be nice, though, if the league had something like an
> > RSS feed for each team and division. Then we could post updates on our
> > site as they became available and weed out what we don't want.
>
> If the league put in an id to the bit of the page with the
> results and then a url could be fashioned that might help
> pinpoint them easier. OP might consider asking for such small
> insertions into the mark up of their pages (I have not looked if
> they do or not)
>
>

Re: Please Can I Have Help Showing a Web Page Inside My Web Site

In article
<1193229663.165938.268330@t8g2000prg.googlegroups.com>,
AshParr@gmail.com wrote:

> On Oct 24, 12:28 am, dorayme

> > If the league put in an id to the bit of the page with the
> > results and then a url could be fashioned that might help
> > pinpoint them easier. OP might consider asking for such small
> > insertions into the mark up of their pages (I have not looked if
> > they do or not)
> >
> >