download https

download https

am 26.10.2007 11:59:37 von philippe doulet

hello,
can you help me ?

how can I download on my pc this kind of file ?


with a webrequest I get only the html page enclosing the frame , but no
frame , neither
file !!!!

I develop with visual studio 2005 c#

philippe

Re: download https

am 26.10.2007 20:11:10 von Neredbojias

Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Fri, 26 Oct 2007 09:59:37 GMT
philippe doulet scribed:

> hello,
> can you help me ?
>
> how can I download on my pc this kind of file ?
>
>
> with a webrequest I get only the html page enclosing the frame , but no
> frame , neither
> file !!!!
>
> I develop with visual studio 2005 c#

The file "index.jsp" is loaded in the iframe and manifestly downloadable to
that so the problem you're experiencing may lie in how the url queries
affect a hypothetical script.

If you're trying to download it manually, just copy the _complete_ url to
your address window. There will be no frame; the frame is part of the
original page.

--
Neredbojias
Just a boogar in the proboscis of life.

Re: download https

am 27.10.2007 11:30:45 von philippe doulet

thank you for your answer
I am a beginner in html and "http requests"
I don't want to download manually , I want automatic with webrequst or
anything else...
I don'want the frame , I only need the file
Philippe ( from France )

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> Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Fri, 26 Oct 2007 09:59:37
> GMT
> philippe doulet scribed:
>
>> hello,
>> can you help me ?
>>
>> how can I download on my pc this kind of file ?
>>
>>
>> with a webrequest I get only the html page enclosing the frame , but no
>> frame , neither
>> file !!!!
>>
>> I develop with visual studio 2005 c#
>
> The file "index.jsp" is loaded in the iframe and manifestly downloadable
> to
> that so the problem you're experiencing may lie in how the url queries
> affect a hypothetical script.
>
> If you're trying to download it manually, just copy the _complete_ url to
> your address window. There will be no frame; the frame is part of the
> original page.
>
> --
> Neredbojias
> Just a boogar in the proboscis of life.

Re: download https

am 27.10.2007 11:46:09 von Bone Ur

On Sat, 27 Oct 2007 09:30:45 GMT philippe doulet wrote:

> thank you for your answer
> I am a beginner in html and "http requests"
> I don't want to download manually , I want automatic with webrequst or
> anything else...
> I don'want the frame , I only need the file
> Philippe ( from France )

Probably the best thing to do is use a compliant browser, view-source the
iframe, and save the text. Then use that to make a page or whatever you
want to do with it.

If you're meaning is that you want to view it online and it's somebody
else's page _and_ copy-pasting the url into the address bar doesn't work,
they may have it scripted to only show in a frame or something similar to
that. (I'm not 100% sure of what you mean.)

--
Bone Ur
Cavemen have stronger pheromones.

Re: download https

am 27.10.2007 15:47:11 von philippe doulet

hello, and thanks for answer
I have tried with csEXWB wich has many functionnalities like IE.
I have tried to copy the url then paste it in a function doing a webrequest
:
I get only the html (head , body and others (scripts ..), not file, neither
frame nor table
Manually , if I copy the url then paste it in the combo for search and
Navigate, I get the frame with a table filled with the datas from the file
....
It could be ok if I had the "entire" rows of the table (I could parse the
html) but I can have only 10 lines...
in the html there is the following , just before the table :
>>

action="/sdm/ent/gen/ent_recherche.do;jsessionid=D0EDEACE5FD .tclassic4"
id="entMoteurDeRechercheForm">




id="referenceapc">
id="personnepublique">





id="objetRecherche">




>>>




philippe



"Bone Ur" a écrit dans le message de news:
Xns99D61C28B1141boneurhyphe@194.177.96.78...
> On Sat, 27 Oct 2007 09:30:45 GMT philippe doulet wrote:
>
>> thank you for your answer
>> I am a beginner in html and "http requests"
>> I don't want to download manually , I want automatic with webrequst or
>> anything else...
>> I don'want the frame , I only need the file
>> Philippe ( from France )
>
> Probably the best thing to do is use a compliant browser, view-source the
> iframe, and save the text. Then use that to make a page or whatever you
> want to do with it.
>
> If you're meaning is that you want to view it online and it's somebody
> else's page _and_ copy-pasting the url into the address bar doesn't work,
> they may have it scripted to only show in a frame or something similar to
> that. (I'm not 100% sure of what you mean.)
>
> --
> Bone Ur
> Cavemen have stronger pheromones.

Re: download https

am 27.10.2007 22:51:16 von Neredbojias

Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Sat, 27 Oct 2007 13:47:11
GMT philippe doulet scribed:

> hello, and thanks for answer
> I have tried with csEXWB wich has many functionnalities like IE.
> I have tried to copy the url then paste it in a function doing a
> webrequest
>:
> I get only the html (head , body and others (scripts ..), not file,
> neither frame nor table
> Manually , if I copy the url then paste it in the combo for search and
> Navigate, I get the frame with a table filled with the datas from the
> file ...
> It could be ok if I had the "entire" rows of the table (I could parse
> the html) but I can have only 10 lines...
> in the html there is the following , just before the table :
>>>
>

> action="/sdm/ent/gen/ent_recherche.do;jsessionid=D0EDEACE5FD .tclassic4"
> id="entMoteurDeRechercheForm">
>
>
>
> > id="reference"> > value=""
> id="referenceapc">
> > id="personnepublique">
> > id="procedure"> > value="-1" id="marche"> > name="intitule" value="" id="intitule"> > type="hidden" name="region" value="" id="region">
>
> > id="objetRecherche">
>
>
> > id="nbAffiche">
>

Hmm, I tried the url you posted then realized it might be just an
example. In any event, I didn't get through. I believe we've reached
the point where a url is required - at least for me to provide any other
ideas. I have none now. Aloha.

--
Neredbojias
Just a boogar in the proboscis of life.

Re: download https

am 28.10.2007 11:01:44 von philippe doulet

thank you for answer
I have tried with an example . I give you now the real process I have done
I want to get informations about "public markets"
so ,
1/ I navigate to http://www.orleans.fr/
2/ on the page , I click on "marchés publics" , the page
http://www.orleans.fr/Economie/MarchesPublics01.cfm opens
3/on this page I click on "consulter les avis de la ville d'orléans" ,the
page
http://www.orleans.fr/Economie/MarchesPublics01a.cfm opens .
In this page appears the frame with informations that I want to get
I open the source of the page : I find
src="https://www.achatpublic.com/sdm/ent/gen/index-collectiv ite.jsp?organisme=HP7X8RHS21_Ville+d'Orl%E9ans" scrolling="yes" width="100%" height="590" frameborder="0">I open the source (of the frame) all informations are in a table (but onlypage 1: to get more :--> click on 2)I want to download "https://www.achatpublic.com..........."philippe"Neredbojias " a écrit dans le message de news:Xns99D68CEB24676nanopandaneredbojias@85.214.62.108...> Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Sat, 27 Oct 2007 13:47:11> GMT philippe doulet scribed:>>> hello, and thanks for answer>> I have tried with csEXWB wich has many functionnalities like IE.>> I have tried to copy the url then paste it in a function doing a>> webrequest>>:>> I get only the html (head , body and others (scripts ..), not file,>> neither frame nor table>> Manually , if I copy the url then paste it in the combo for search and>> Navigate, I get the frame with a table filled with the datas from the>> file ...>> It could be ok if I had the "entire" rows of the table (I could parse>> the html) but I can have only 10 lines...>> in the html there is the following , just before the table :>>>>>>

> action="/sdm/ent/gen/ent_recherche.do;jsessionid=D0EDEACE5FD .tclassic4">> id="entMoteurDeRechercheForm">>>>> >> >> > id="reference"> > value="">> id="referenceapc">>> > id="personnepublique">>> > id="procedure"> > value="-1" id="marche"> > name="intitule" value="" id="intitule"> > type="hidden" name="region" value="" id="region">>> >> > id="objetRecherche">>> >> >> > id="nbAffiche">>>
>> Hmm, I tried the url you posted then realized it might be just an> example. In any event, I didn't get through. I believe we've reached> the point where a url is required - at least for me to provide any other> ideas. I have none now. Aloha.>> --> Neredbojias> Just a boogar in the proboscis of life.

Re: download https

am 28.10.2007 16:36:29 von Neredbojias

Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Sun, 28 Oct 2007 10:01:44
GMT philippe doulet scribed:

> thank you for answer
> I have tried with an example . I give you now the real process I have
> done I want to get informations about "public markets"
> so ,
> 1/ I navigate to http://www.orleans.fr/
> 2/ on the page , I click on "marchés publics" , the page
> http://www.orleans.fr/Economie/MarchesPublics01.cfm opens
> 3/on this page I click on "consulter les avis de la ville d'orléans"
> ,the page
> http://www.orleans.fr/Economie/MarchesPublics01a.cfm opens .
> In this page appears the frame with informations that I want to get
> I open the source of the page : I find
> > src="https://www.achatpublic.com/sdm/ent/gen/index-collectiv ite.jsp?or
> ganisme=HP7X8RHS21_Ville+d'Orl%E9ans" scrolling="yes" width="100%"
> height="590" frameborder="0">I open the source (of the
> frame) all informations are in a table (but onlypage 1: to get more
> :--> click on 2)I want to download
> "https://www.achatpublic.com

> ..........."philippe"

https://www.achatpublic.com by itself redirects to
http://www.achatpublic.com

You can, however, save the page in the iframe by either saving a "view-
source" of it or just "save page" through the browser. For example, use
Firefox and navigate the links as you describe. Right-click on the iframe
then select "This frame". From the list you can select "Show only this
frame", but notice what happens - you lose the content. That's because
sessions are involved and there might be javascript inter-relations as
well. Instead, if you select "Save frame as" or "View frame source",
you'll save the page you want. Unfortunately, the links won't work. The
reason is (for one) that the link to page 2 is a link to a javascript
function which in turn submits a form, -something that won't happen locally
on your computer. Therefore, you'll never "get" page 2 even if the markup
is there in the source already.

In brief, you can't "download" https://www.achatpublic.com without the
queries which provide the content you want but make it impossible to use
without the server.

--
Neredbojias
Just a boogar in the proboscis of life.

Re: download https

am 29.10.2007 10:28:37 von philippe doulet

thank you very much for your help
it'a pity not to get all the file ! too bad !
philippe

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> Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Sun, 28 Oct 2007 10:01:44
> GMT philippe doulet scribed:
>
>> thank you for answer
>> I have tried with an example . I give you now the real process I have
>> done I want to get informations about "public markets"
>> so ,
>> 1/ I navigate to http://www.orleans.fr/
>> 2/ on the page , I click on "marchés publics" , the page
>> http://www.orleans.fr/Economie/MarchesPublics01.cfm opens
>> 3/on this page I click on "consulter les avis de la ville d'orléans"
>> ,the page
>> http://www.orleans.fr/Economie/MarchesPublics01a.cfm opens .
>> In this page appears the frame with informations that I want to get
>> I open the source of the page : I find
>> >> src="https://www.achatpublic.com/sdm/ent/gen/index-collectiv ite.jsp?or
>> ganisme=HP7X8RHS21_Ville+d'Orl%E9ans" scrolling="yes" width="100%"
>> height="590" frameborder="0">I open the source (of the
>> frame) all informations are in a table (but onlypage 1: to get more
>> :--> click on 2)I want to download
>> "https://www.achatpublic.com
>
>> ..........."philippe"
>
> https://www.achatpublic.com by itself redirects to
> http://www.achatpublic.com
>
> You can, however, save the page in the iframe by either saving a "view-
> source" of it or just "save page" through the browser. For example, use
> Firefox and navigate the links as you describe. Right-click on the iframe
> then select "This frame". From the list you can select "Show only this
> frame", but notice what happens - you lose the content. That's because
> sessions are involved and there might be javascript inter-relations as
> well. Instead, if you select "Save frame as" or "View frame source",
> you'll save the page you want. Unfortunately, the links won't work. The
> reason is (for one) that the link to page 2 is a link to a javascript
> function which in turn submits a form, -something that won't happen
> locally
> on your computer. Therefore, you'll never "get" page 2 even if the markup
> is there in the source already.
>
> In brief, you can't "download" https://www.achatpublic.com without the
> queries which provide the content you want but make it impossible to use
> without the server.
>
> --
> Neredbojias
> Just a boogar in the proboscis of life.