Hi,
I have a problem with FMP Advanced server 9 on Win XP.
I installed Apache HTTP Server 2.2.6, it's ok.
then I install FMP Advanced server 9,
when I want to activate the Web publishing,
FMP AD server can not find the web server (Apache).
Anyone can help me, please !
Thank you
On 2007-10-28 05:22:04 -0700, "Andy RICHARD"
> I have a problem with FMP Advanced server 9 on Win XP.
>
> I installed Apache HTTP Server 2.2.6, it's ok.
> then I install FMP Advanced server 9,
> when I want to activate the Web publishing,
> FMP AD server can not find the web server (Apache).
>
> Anyone can help me, please !
FM Server (any flavor) is not certified to run on XP. It's supposed to
be run on Windows 2000 Server or Windows 2003 Server. Period. See the
FM website for both Mac & Windows OS requirements.
FM Server runs as a service, not an application, and so it needs a
server environment. I'm not surprised it's not functioning well for
you.
--
Lynn Allen
--
www.semiotics.com
Member Filemaker Business Alliance
Long Beach, CA
Andy RICHARD wrote:
> I have a problem with FMP Advanced server 9 on Win XP.
I can't speak for Apache, but I know that IIS on XP is insufficient for
FM Server Advanced web publishing. You need to take a look at the specs
on FileMaker's website for FM Server Advanced.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Howard Schlossberg
FM Professional Solutions, Inc. Los Angeles
FileMaker 8 Certified Developer
Member, FileMaker Business Alliance
How fortuitous, I logged in to make a similar comment. I am trying to
run a 2 machine fms 9 server setup on win 2000 as the database server
and winxp as the web publishing and web server set up, with apache on
the winxp machine. It has turned into a 4 day ordeal, not a 20
minute install as advertised. And this is just my test setup before
I migrate from 6 to 9. I checked the specs for server 9 -> System
requirements
These are the system requirements for both FileMaker Server 9 and
FileMaker Server 9 Advanced.
* Windows 2003 Server Standard Edition SP2
* Windows 2000 Server SP4
* Windows XP Professional SP2
So I am in compliance. Now I find there is a mysterious "unknown
process" bound to port 80 on the xp machine so apache cant bind to
0.0.0.0:80, there is a reference to having to use a 'tomkat'
connector on fmwebschool help site and fm's own techbrief on web
publishing seems to indicate I should go out & buy apple machines to
make my life happy........
And the 2000 sp machine cant 'find' the ip address of machine #2. for
the web publishing eninge.
what a freaking mess.
Progress....... Apache is working on the xp pro machine, logged into
the win 2000 sp4 machine, but isnt recognized in the 'edit server
deployment' tab from filemaker server overview.....
> FM Server (any flavor) is not certified to run on XP. It's supposed to
> be run on Windows 2000 Server or Windows 2003 Server. Period. See the
> FM website for both Mac & Windows OS requirements.
Lynn,
That is dead wrong. Have you read those requirements yourself?
Here is the link:
http://www.filemaker.com/products/fms/tech_specs.html
The 3rd operating system in the list is Windows XP Professional SP2.
I work with a production environment of FM Server Advanced on XP
Professional. And it runs flawlessly. It is officially supported on
that platform, and I ran Server 8 Advanced on it since the week it was
released, the only reboots were for some windows patches. It hasn't
been rebooted since Server 9 Advanced was released.
And Server 8 on XP, when benchmarked against against Windows 2003
Server R2, the performance was almost identical. I haven't benchmarked
Server 9 XP vs Server 2003 but I'd be VERY surprised if there was any
difference.
I would only recommend installing a Windows Server if you had a need
for a Windows Server feature. Otherwise, for your average workgroup/
department, XP Pro is a perfectly adequate host operating system for
an FM Server.
If I recall correctly, the Web connector of Server 7/8 Advanced wasn't
compatible with IIS 5.1 (on XP Pro), due to limitations of that
version of IIS (the ability to only host one "website"). So the web
connector had to be installed on a Windows Server. But FM Server/
Server Advanced itself has always run just fine on XP. And if you are
using ODBC/JDBC (which you need Advanced for) XP was still fine.
Again: You only needed a Windows Server if you were using the web
connector, and that could (and ideally should) be on a separate
machine anyway.
It appears with 9 they've worked within the limitation of IIS5.1 on XP
because it appears you can even run the web publishing stuff on XP
now. That's a boon to developers, but not a big deal overall, as
IIS5.1 has connection limits that make it generally unsuitable for
hosting public websites. But that is a separate issue.
> FM Server runs as a service, not an application, and so it needs a
> server environment. I'm not surprised it's not functioning well for
> you.
You can run a service on XP.
I'm *stunned* you would claim otherwise.
XP Pro has quite a number of server capabilities built in: print
server, ftp server, web server, terminal server. Granted MS crippled
the versions of those it included in order to protect its 'server'
OSes, but the OS itself is perfectly capable of running a server, and
lots of 3rd party server components, including 3rd party ftp and
webservers, and including Filemaker Server all run perfectly on XP.
-regards,
Dave
d-42 wrote:
>> FM Server (any flavor) is not certified to run on XP. It's supposed to
>> be run on Windows 2000 Server or Windows 2003 Server. Period. See the
>> FM website for both Mac & Windows OS requirements.
>
> That is dead wrong. Have you read those requirements yourself?
I was with Lynn on this until I went to the website and looked. The
last time I'd tried was with FMSA 8; my assumption (as well, apparently,
as Lynn's) is that XP Pro wouldn't work with 9 either. FMS has always
run properly as a service for data serving, but none of the Advanced
(web) features ever worked on XP...I guess, that is, until FMS 9 was
released in August.
Howard
On Oct 28, 12:39 pm, "afernlund_me...@gmail.com"
wrote:
> How fortuitous, I logged in to make a similar comment. I am trying to
> run a 2 machine fms 9 server setup on win 2000 as the database server
> and winxp as the web publishing and web server set up, with apache on
> the winxp machine. It has turned into a 4 day ordeal, not a 20
> minute install as advertised.
The "official" Webserver on Windows is IIS.
Apache is the "official" web server on OSX.
> These are the system requirements for both FileMaker Server 9 and
> FileMaker Server 9 Advanced.
>
> * Windows 2003 Server Standard Edition SP2
> * Windows 2000 Server SP4
> * Windows XP Professional SP2
>
> So I am in compliance. Now I find there is a mysterious "unknown
> process" bound to port 80 on the xp machine so apache cant bind to
> 0.0.0.0:80,
Built in IIS? Some other application/server you are running with a web
interface? Lots of programs from World of Warcraft Mods to BitTorrent
clients to WinAmp to Viruses can run a web interface.
Good luck. I can't over any specific advice though as I've never tried
Win/Apache with Filemaker. I'm absolutely sure it can be made to work,
but I'm not surprised at all its not a trivial 20 minute setup.
-cheers,
Dave
On 2007-10-28 14:23:39 -0700, d-42
> That is dead wrong. Have you read those requirements yourself?
> Here is the link:
>
> http://www.filemaker.com/products/fms/tech_specs.html
>
> The 3rd operating system in the list is Windows XP Professional SP2.
Howard Schlossberg is checking with the FMI higher-ups as to that. We
both believe that has never been a supported OS (which is why I didn't
go back and check it, it never has been before) and the website may or
may not be in error.
We'll keep you posted.
--
Lynn Allen
--
www.semiotics.com
Member Filemaker Business Alliance
Long Beach, CA
afernlund_me_at@gmail.com wrote:
> How fortuitous, I logged in to make a similar comment. I am trying to
> run a 2 machine fms 9 server setup on win 2000 as the database server
> and winxp as the web publishing and web server set up, with apache on
> the winxp machine.
>
> These are the system requirements for both FileMaker Server 9 and
> FileMaker Server 9 Advanced.
>
> * Windows 2003 Server Standard Edition SP2
> * Windows 2000 Server SP4
> * Windows XP Professional SP2
>
> So I am in compliance.
Well, I don't see Apache listed as a supported web server on XP -- only
on Mac. The only supported web server on Win XP is IIS 5.1.
On Oct 28, 2:32 pm, Howard Schlossberg
>
> I was with Lynn on this until I went to the website and looked. The
> last time I'd tried was with FMSA 8; my assumption (as well, apparently,
> as Lynn's) is that XP Pro wouldn't work with 9 either.
> FMS has always
> run properly as a service for data serving, but none of the Advanced
> (web) features ever worked on XP
Lynn appeared to indicate that even that wasn't true when she said "FM
Server (any flavor) is not certified to run on XP. It's supposed to be
run on Windows 2000 Server or Windows 2003 Server. Period."
And that's just not the case, and never has been.
Both FMS 7 and 8 'not advanced' have always been officially supported
on XP to my recollection.
FMSA's web connector required a Windows Server OS, but in multiple
server deployments or if you just needed Advanced ODBC/JDBC features,
XP was supported as the "Database Server".
Ever since FM7 I have run FM Server on XP units, and the web connector
on Windows Servers. I like having that level of isolation between the
web and the database server.
I've also run smaller web sites from linux without the web connector
at all, just using ODBC against an XP filemaker advanced server. (And
this amounts to a solution that needs and uses FM advanced that
doesn't require a windows server anywhere.)
> ...I guess, that is, until FMS 9 was
> released in August.
Yes, at least according to their website. Lynn raised the question
that the website might be in error, and that you are following up. And
that's certainy a possibility, although it strikes me that the web
connector probably does support XP now as they
a) *changed* the documentation to say so
b) specifically mention IIS5.1 (the version that only comes with XP
Pro)
But actually asking them and/or just trying it, would be best.
That said, even if it 9 does support XP IIS5.1 for the web connector
its really just a bonus to developers and maybe small LANs. XP+IIS5.1s
10 connection limit prevents it from being suitable as a 'real' web
server.
I look forward to any official update from FMI.
cheers,
Dave