ATTN: Leythos - Hardware Firewall Solution

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Re: ATTN: Leythos - Hardware Firewall Solution

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Spender@Mars.org says...
> I'm working on wiring up a small condo association and they want to share
> an internet connection. Of course they are all seniors, so they are
> terrified of the net.
>
> I can't spend an arm and a leg, but I want to make sure they are
> sufficiently protected.
>
> Have you any experience with the D-Link DFL-210, D-Link DFL-700, and the
> Firebox X10E.
>
> Thanks to you, or anybody else, willing to render an educated opinion.

I have used all of them.

The X10e will not handle very many nodes, 10, max of 15. You want the
device to handle at least double the number you have expected because
each device will register (so if each of them have a computer, then they
add wireless to their home, then they have a couple grandkids visit with
laptops.... that's one for each of those).

The DFL-700 will do what you want, but you have to understand that every
user will be on a joined network, all on the same LAN - so one person
being compromised will spread it to all others.

We did a small building with 16 office companies in it - came in to a 24
Port network switch from the ISP device, setup 16 Linksys BEFSR41 NAT
routers on a fixed IP each, so that each company had their own public
IP, and then we set each of the Linksys lans to a different Subnet:

LOC PUBLIC IP PRIVATE IP

CO1 X.Y.Z.1 192.168.101.1/24
CO2 X.Y.Z.2 192.168.102.1/24
CO3 X.Y.Z.3 192.168.103.1/24
CO4 X.Y.Z.4 192.168.104.1/24
CO5 X.Y.Z.4 192.168.105.1/24

This means that each office company has their own LAN, they can't
compromise the other LAN's in the building, and they are entitled to
their own port forwarding, etc....

You could get a Firebox X550 series, in Drop-In mode, so that you have
the same IP on the WAN and then LAN, then you could put in the routers
like I show above and give then all public IP's. You could use the DMZ
port for free wireless coverage - locking it down to DNS, HTTP, HTTPS
for guess access....

If you put them all on one network you will regret it and they will grow
to hate you.


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Leythos
- Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum.
- Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a
drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist"
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Re: ATTN: Leythos - Hardware Firewall Solution

Spender wrote:

> Of course they are all seniors, so they are terrified of the net.

Hey, wait a minute - I'm what you lot across the pond call a 'senior',
and I'm not 'terrified of the net'!
8^(

Jim Ford

Re: ATTN: Leythos - Hardware Firewall Solution

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jaford@watford53.freeserve.co.uk says...
> Spender wrote:
>
> > Of course they are all seniors, so they are terrified of the net.
>
> Hey, wait a minute - I'm what you lot across the pond call a 'senior',
> and I'm not 'terrified of the net'!
> 8^(

Most seniors know more about the "Net" than most younger people give
them credit for - I know I was really surprised about what my Mother and
Mother inlaw actually do on the Internet.

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Leythos
- Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum.
- Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a
drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist"
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Leythos wrote:
> In article ,
> jaford@watford53.freeserve.co.uk says...
>> Spender wrote:
>>
>>> Of course they are all seniors, so they are terrified of the net.
>> Hey, wait a minute - I'm what you lot across the pond call a 'senior',
>> and I'm not 'terrified of the net'!
>> 8^(
>
> Most seniors know more about the "Net" than most younger people give
> them credit for - I know I was really surprised about what my Mother and
> Mother inlaw actually do on the Internet.
>

I'm glad you said 'surprised' and not 'shocked'!
;^)

Jim Ford

Re: ATTN: Leythos - Hardware Firewall Solution

In article ,
jaford@watford53.freeserve.co.uk says...
> Leythos wrote:
> > In article ,
> > jaford@watford53.freeserve.co.uk says...
> >> Spender wrote:
> >>
> >>> Of course they are all seniors, so they are terrified of the net.
> >> Hey, wait a minute - I'm what you lot across the pond call a 'senior',
> >> and I'm not 'terrified of the net'!
> >> 8^(
> >
> > Most seniors know more about the "Net" than most younger people give
> > them credit for - I know I was really surprised about what my Mother and
> > Mother inlaw actually do on the Internet.
> >
>
> I'm glad you said 'surprised' and not 'shocked'!
> ;^)

The only time I've been "Shocked" was when I first started doing work
for Sororities - the things that todays young adult women have on their
PC's, not to mention in their dorm rooms....

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Leythos
- Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum.
- Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a
drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist"
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Re: ATTN: Leythos - Hardware Firewall Solution

Leythos wrote:
> In article ,
> jaford@watford53.freeserve.co.uk says...
>> Leythos wrote:
>>> In article ,
>>> jaford@watford53.freeserve.co.uk says...
>>>> Spender wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Of course they are all seniors, so they are terrified of the net.
>>>> Hey, wait a minute - I'm what you lot across the pond call a 'senior',
>>>> and I'm not 'terrified of the net'!
>>>> 8^(
>>> Most seniors know more about the "Net" than most younger people give
>>> them credit for - I know I was really surprised about what my Mother and
>>> Mother inlaw actually do on the Internet.
>>>
>> I'm glad you said 'surprised' and not 'shocked'!
>> ;^)
>
> The only time I've been "Shocked" was when I first started doing work
> for Sororities - the things that todays young adult women have on their
> PC's, not to mention in their dorm rooms....
>

Do tell!
;^)

Jim Ford

Re: ATTN: Leythos - Hardware Firewall Solution

In article <%H%Ui.4566$%j2.1407@newsfe2-win.ntli.net>,
jaford@watford53.freeserve.co.uk says...
> Leythos wrote:
> > In article ,
> > jaford@watford53.freeserve.co.uk says...
> >> Leythos wrote:
> >>> In article ,
> >>> jaford@watford53.freeserve.co.uk says...
> >>>> Spender wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Of course they are all seniors, so they are terrified of the net.
> >>>> Hey, wait a minute - I'm what you lot across the pond call a 'senior',
> >>>> and I'm not 'terrified of the net'!
> >>>> 8^(
> >>> Most seniors know more about the "Net" than most younger people give
> >>> them credit for - I know I was really surprised about what my Mother and
> >>> Mother inlaw actually do on the Internet.
> >>>
> >> I'm glad you said 'surprised' and not 'shocked'!
> >> ;^)
> >
> > The only time I've been "Shocked" was when I first started doing work
> > for Sororities - the things that todays young adult women have on their
> > PC's, not to mention in their dorm rooms....
> >
>
> Do tell!

LOL - Can't, NDA and all :)

It's funny, when we get a call it's almost like a fight to see who will
provide service - but I never let anyone else handle it - I've had a
number of sexual harassment training classes and always ask (require)
and escort from a house mother if we have to go anywhere other than the
common areas.

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Leythos
- Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum.
- Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a
drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist"
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In article ,
Spender@Mars.org says...
> On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 11:11:29 GMT, Jim Ford
> wrote:
>
> >Spender wrote:
> >
> >> Of course they are all seniors, so they are terrified of the net.
> >
> >Hey, wait a minute - I'm what you lot across the pond call a 'senior',
> >and I'm not 'terrified of the net'!
>
> I apologize for the generalization. But the fact is that the residents of
> this condo project are afraid of their television remotes.

He was kidding, in case it didn't come across that way.

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Leythos
- Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum.
- Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a
drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist"
spam999free@rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address)

Re: ATTN: Leythos - Hardware Firewall Solution

Spender wrote:
> On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 11:11:29 GMT, Jim Ford
> wrote:
>
>> Spender wrote:
>>
>>> Of course they are all seniors, so they are terrified of the net.
>> Hey, wait a minute - I'm what you lot across the pond call a 'senior',
>> and I'm not 'terrified of the net'!
>
> I apologize for the generalization. But the fact is that the residents of
> this condo project are afraid of their television remotes.

It's mobile 'phones I hate. The only time I ever want to use mine, when
I'm backpacking in the Scottish Mountains and want to reassure my wife
that I'm OK, the damn thing doesn't work because it can't acquire a signal!

Jim Ford

Re: ATTN: Leythos - Hardware Firewall Solution

Leythos wrote:
> In article ,
> Spender@Mars.org says...
>> On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 11:11:29 GMT, Jim Ford
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Spender wrote:
>>>
>>>> Of course they are all seniors, so they are terrified of the net.
>>> Hey, wait a minute - I'm what you lot across the pond call a 'senior',
>>> and I'm not 'terrified of the net'!
>> I apologize for the generalization. But the fact is that the residents of
>> this condo project are afraid of their television remotes.
>
> He was kidding, in case it didn't come across that way.

What, me kidding that I'm not afraid of the net?
;^)

Jim Ford