Classic ASP Question

My small company has a web site that is developed in "Classic ASP",
which is, I'm told, different from just "ASP". It is clear to me that we
are not using ASP.NET. The site is hosted on a shared Windows Server and
access a Microsoft SQL Server 2000, I think.

We are having a terrible time finding someone to do some code updates.
Part of the problem is that I am not familiar enough with ASP to know
whether I am asking the right questions. Do I look for a Classic ASP
Developer?

Our present developer is moonlighting, but he's often too hard to reach,
and he's not dependable. If you can suggest a good way to find a
moonlighter (guru.com?), I'd appreciate hearing it.

Re: Classic ASP Question

mcp6453 wrote:
> My small company has a web site that is developed in "Classic ASP",
> which is, I'm told, different from just "ASP".

A few years ago, there was nothing but ASP. Then MS released ASP.Net and
insisted on referring to it as ASP, which lead to people coming to this
group, which has nothing to do with ASP.Net to ask questions. That lead
us to start referring to the older version as "classic" ASP to help
distinguish it from ASP.Net

> It is clear to me that
> we are not using ASP.NET. The site is hosted on a shared Windows
> Server and access a Microsoft SQL Server 2000, I think.
>
> We are having a terrible time finding someone to do some code updates.
> Part of the problem is that I am not familiar enough with ASP to know
> whether I am asking the right questions. Do I look for a Classic ASP
> Developer?
>
> Our present developer is moonlighting, but he's often too hard to
> reach, and he's not dependable. If you can suggest a good way to find
> a moonlighter (guru.com?), I'd appreciate hearing it.

"Classic ASP Developer, fluent in vbscript and database applications"
seems to fit the bill. Otherwise, I'm not into the hiring end of the biz
so I can be of no further assistance.

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Re: Classic ASP Question

Bob Barrows [MVP] wrote:
>> We are having a terrible time finding someone to do some code
>> updates. Part of the problem is that I am not familiar enough
>> with ASP to know whether I am asking the right questions. Do I
>> look for a Classic ASP Developer?
>
> "Classic ASP Developer, fluent in vbscript and database
> applications" seems to fit the bill.

To the OP: Bob's answer assumes none of it is rolled up into DLLs. If parts
of your application were written in VB and compiled, adjust accordingly.


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Re: Classic ASP Question

What Mr. Barrows implied but did not state is that this is the Classic ASP
Newsgroup. So, you found us old timers!

A great idea for getting your job done is to post what needs to be
accomplished here, just like a job description would be listed on
Monster.com (or where ever). Anyone that reads it and says, "Well, I can do
that!" will be able to get back with you on their price.

You may want to have them do the work on a test site until you get your
product working the way you want, and only then pay the contractor and move
your test website over to your live folder.

"mcp6453" wrote...
> My small company has a web site that is developed in "Classic ASP", which
> is, I'm told, different from just "ASP". It is clear to me that we are not
> using ASP.NET. The site is hosted on a shared Windows Server and access a
> Microsoft SQL Server 2000, I think.
>
> We are having a terrible time finding someone to do some code updates.
> Part of the problem is that I am not familiar enough with ASP to know
> whether I am asking the right questions. Do I look for a Classic ASP
> Developer?
>
> Our present developer is moonlighting, but he's often too hard to reach,
> and he's not dependable. If you can suggest a good way to find a
> moonlighter (guru.com?), I'd appreciate hearing it.

Re: Classic ASP Question

Okay, great. Thanks for all the information. Let me work up a meaningful
post, and I will give it a shot.

The site is up and working right now. In fact, it's making money, but
we're not getting rich. What we want is some modifications to improve
functionality.

Unless we find an ASP developer, we're probably going to convert to PHP,
which doesn't require a Windows Server.

Sorry to ask this question, but is Classic ASP a dead language?


jp2code wrote:
> What Mr. Barrows implied but did not state is that this is the Classic ASP
> Newsgroup. So, you found us old timers!
>
> A great idea for getting your job done is to post what needs to be
> accomplished here, just like a job description would be listed on
> Monster.com (or where ever). Anyone that reads it and says, "Well, I can do
> that!" will be able to get back with you on their price.
>
> You may want to have them do the work on a test site until you get your
> product working the way you want, and only then pay the contractor and move
> your test website over to your live folder.
>
> "mcp6453" wrote...
>> My small company has a web site that is developed in "Classic ASP", which
>> is, I'm told, different from just "ASP". It is clear to me that we are not
>> using ASP.NET. The site is hosted on a shared Windows Server and access a
>> Microsoft SQL Server 2000, I think.
>>
>> We are having a terrible time finding someone to do some code updates.
>> Part of the problem is that I am not familiar enough with ASP to know
>> whether I am asking the right questions. Do I look for a Classic ASP
>> Developer?
>>
>> Our present developer is moonlighting, but he's often too hard to reach,
>> and he's not dependable. If you can suggest a good way to find a
>> moonlighter (guru.com?), I'd appreciate hearing it.
>
>

Re: Classic ASP Question

mcp6453 wrote:
> Sorry to ask this question, but is Classic ASP a dead language?

Clearly not. Plenty of us speak it. But it is definitely on the wane. More
and more of us spend more and more of our time in ASP.NET these days.



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Re: Classic ASP Question

"Dave Anderson" wrote in message
news:%2331a16yGIHA.280@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> mcp6453 wrote:
>> Sorry to ask this question, but is Classic ASP a dead language?
>
> Clearly not. Plenty of us speak it. But it is definitely on the wane. More
> and more of us spend more and more of our time in ASP.NET these days.
>


Don't forget to mention that a Classic ASP website can easily be converted
to an ASP.NET website by merely renaming all the .asp files to .aspx files
and installing the ASP.NET framework. There is usually very little that
needs to be adjusted in the code, depending on the website of course.

Re: Classic ASP Question

I know these guys do Classic ASP development. Rates may not be that much different and will likely be available when needed.

http://www.ASPkey.net


"mcp6453" wrote in message news:e%23te86xGIHA.3956@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> My small company has a web site that is developed in "Classic ASP", which is, I'm told, different from just "ASP". It is clear to
> me that we are not using ASP.NET. The site is hosted on a shared Windows Server and access a Microsoft SQL Server 2000, I think.
>
> We are having a terrible time finding someone to do some code updates. Part of the problem is that I am not familiar enough with
> ASP to know whether I am asking the right questions. Do I look for a Classic ASP Developer?
>
> Our present developer is moonlighting, but he's often too hard to reach, and he's not dependable. If you can suggest a good way to
> find a moonlighter (guru.com?), I'd appreciate hearing it.

Re: Classic ASP Question

I'll have to second that one!

I've gone to their site many times and borrowed example code.

Good bunch.

"Jon Paal [MSMD]" wrote...
>I know these guys do Classic ASP development. Rates may not be that much
>different and will likely be available when needed.
>
> http://www.ASPkey.net
>

Re: Classic ASP Question

"jp2code" wrote in message
news:Od4mJd9GIHA.4196@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> I'll have to second that one!
>
> I've gone to their site many times and borrowed example code.
>
> Good bunch.
>
> "Jon Paal [MSMD]" wrote...
> >I know these guys do Classic ASP development. Rates may not be that much
> >different and will likely be available when needed.
> >
> > http://www.ASPkey.net

An anonymous (and vague) testimonial from someone whose
"name" ("jp2code") contains the same initials as that of the
person posting ("Jon Paal") posted within 7 minutes! I wonder ...

Re: Classic ASP Question

Haha!

No such luck; Joe Pool here.

I never even thought of that. Good point.

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http://www.joeswelding.biz/

"McKirahan" wrote in message
news:3sqdnRh7DZevKLXanZ2dnUVZ_tijnZ2d@comcast.com...
> "jp2code" wrote in message
> news:Od4mJd9GIHA.4196@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> I'll have to second that one!
>>
>> I've gone to their site many times and borrowed example code.
>>
>> Good bunch.
>>
>> "Jon Paal [MSMD]" wrote...
>> >I know these guys do Classic ASP development. Rates may not be that
>> >much
>> >different and will likely be available when needed.
>> >
>> > http://www.ASPkey.net
>
> An anonymous (and vague) testimonial from someone whose
> "name" ("jp2code") contains the same initials as that of the
> person posting ("Jon Paal") posted within 7 minutes! I wonder ...
>
>
>

Re: Classic ASP Question

Really? Is that something that we should investigate?

PW wrote:
> "Dave Anderson" wrote in message
> news:%2331a16yGIHA.280@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> mcp6453 wrote:
>>> Sorry to ask this question, but is Classic ASP a dead language?
>> Clearly not. Plenty of us speak it. But it is definitely on the wane. More
>> and more of us spend more and more of our time in ASP.NET these days.
>>
>
>
> Don't forget to mention that a Classic ASP website can easily be converted
> to an ASP.NET website by merely renaming all the .asp files to .aspx files
> and installing the ASP.NET framework. There is usually very little that
> needs to be adjusted in the code, depending on the website of course.
>
>
>

Re: Classic ASP Question

"mcp6453" wrote in message
news:OivYGLMHIHA.5276@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Really? Is that something that we should investigate?

Probably not -- in my opinion.

ASP.NET - Web Pages
http://www.w3schools.com/aspnet/aspnet_pages.asp

"ASP.NET is not fully compatible with Classic ASP,
but most Classic ASP pages will work fine as ASP.NET
pages, with only minor changes."


Just changing the extension is not really "converting" the pages.

ASP to ASP.NET Migration Assistant
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/asp.net/aa336624.aspx



> PW wrote:
> > "Dave Anderson" wrote in message
> > news:%2331a16yGIHA.280@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> >> mcp6453 wrote:
> >>> Sorry to ask this question, but is Classic ASP a dead language?
> >> Clearly not. Plenty of us speak it. But it is definitely on the wane.
More
> >> and more of us spend more and more of our time in ASP.NET these days.
> >>
> >
> >
> > Don't forget to mention that a Classic ASP website can easily be
converted
> > to an ASP.NET website by merely renaming all the .asp files to .aspx
files
> > and installing the ASP.NET framework. There is usually very little that
> > needs to be adjusted in the code, depending on the website of course.