Background to a web page

Is there any way to use a web page as a background to another web page?

Thanks in advance.

Re: Background to a web page

In article <13ifus8egpmsbe6@corp.supernews.com>,
Glenn Christensen wrote:

> Is there any way to use a web page as a background to another web page?
>

You could take a screenshot and use the pic... but other than
that?

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Re: Background to a web page

Glenn Christensen writes:

> Is there any way to use a web page as a background to another web page?

You could use CSS to set the z-index of an iframe element. Strictly speaking,
it wouldn't actually be the background, but the visual effect would be the
same as if it were.

That said... why on earth would you want to do such a thing??? :-)

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Re: Background to a web page

On Tue, 30 Oct 2007 20:50:36 -0700, Glenn Christensen wrote:

> Is there any way to use a web page as a background to another web page?
>
> Thanks in advance.

Unless the background page is your creation and rests on the same server,
you could be guilty of stealing bandwidth. Afterall, the other guy is
paying for his "rights" for his visitors to see "his" work.

Having one overloaded web page is bad enough and you want to double it? So
I trust the background you want is something simple.

Re: Background to a web page

richard wrote:

> On Tue, 30 Oct 2007 20:50:36 -0700, Glenn Christensen wrote:
>
> > Is there any way to use a web page as a background to another web page?
> >
> > Thanks in advance.
>
> Unless the background page is your creation and rests on the same server,
> you could be guilty of stealing bandwidth. Afterall, the other guy is
> paying for his "rights" for his visitors to see "his" work.
>
> Having one overloaded web page is bad enough and you want to double it? So
> I trust the background you want is something simple.

May I put off working on your questions until I'm done dealing with
mine? Thank you.

Re: Background to a web page

Sherman Pendley wrote:

> Glenn Christensen writes:
>
> > Is there any way to use a web page as a background to another web page?
>
> You could use CSS to set the z-index of an iframe element. Strictly speaking,
> it wouldn't actually be the background, but the visual effect would be the
> same as if it were.

Thanks, Sherman. I know a little CSS, but will have to look up that
Z-index thingy.
>
> That said... why on earth would you want to do such a thing??? :-)
>
Not yet sure that I want to do it, but I do want to take a look at it. I
bring my forum onto a web page via iFrame. It takes up the left 50% of
the page. The right 50% is another iFrame containing links, news, title
- well, a host of things.

The layout of the page is such that users could see enough of the
background (changing text data) while using the forum to decided whether
or not they wanted to scroll down (repeating background) to below the
forum and read the information. I would like to get away from a link
and/or opening in a window.

This is not a commercial web site.

Re: Background to a web page

dorayme wrote:

> In article <13ifus8egpmsbe6@corp.supernews.com>,
> Glenn Christensen wrote:
>
> > Is there any way to use a web page as a background to another web page?
> >
>
> You could take a screenshot and use the pic... but other than
> that?
>
Dang, Dorayme! I'm not that simpleminded! (grin). But I do appreciate
you taking the time to make a suggestion. The web page I want to use
changes regularly, so the pic idea isn't an option.

Re: Background to a web page

In article <13iidkmmoj958a4@corp.supernews.com>,
Glenn Christensen wrote:

> > You could take a screenshot and use the pic... but other than
> > that?
> >
> Dang, Dorayme! I'm not that simpleminded! (grin). But I do appreciate
> you taking the time to make a suggestion. The web page I want to use
> changes regularly, so the pic idea isn't an option.

I am sure you are not simple minded, did not mean to imply this!
Actually I had an idea that maybe some script could in effect get
a screen shot and somehow this could be inserted dynamically as a
background image. But have no real idea of how to bring this
about... might be worth asking at alt.php? Or not, if it would
not be "live" enough for you? Good luck anyway.

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dorayme

Re: Background to a web page

dorayme wrote:

> In article <13iidkmmoj958a4@corp.supernews.com>,
> Glenn Christensen wrote:
>
> > > You could take a screenshot and use the pic... but other than
> > > that?
> > >
> > Dang, Dorayme! I'm not that simpleminded! (grin). But I do appreciate
> > you taking the time to make a suggestion. The web page I want to use
> > changes regularly, so the pic idea isn't an option.
>
> I am sure you are not simple minded, did not mean to imply this!
> Actually I had an idea that maybe some script could in effect get
> a screen shot and somehow this could be inserted dynamically as a
> background image. But have no real idea of how to bring this
> about... might be worth asking at alt.php? Or not, if it would
> not be "live" enough for you? Good luck anyway.
>
>
Thank you, lady.

Re: Background to a web page

On 31 Oct, 03:50, Glenn Christensen wrote:
> Is there any way to use a web page as a background to another web page?

Yes, loads of them. I'm not sure I'd recommend any of them though.

What you're literally talking about here (by using terms like
"background") is client-side assembly of a rendered bitmap image.
That's not a good end-result to aim at: it dumps the semantics of text
web documents in favour of pictures, it's inaccessible, and it relies
on the real-time availability of other peoples' servers.

A much better way to do this broad topic of "aggregating content" is
to use server-side processing and to produce final web document that's
still a web document, not just a picture of one. This is standard
aggregation technology these days - use Atom or RSS, either is _far_
easier than trying to scrpae HTML form other sites.

Agggregation also permits caching, so you're not hitting other
peoples' bandwidth so heavily, and you're not so dependent on their
server reliability.

If you want aggregated content as a "background", then SSI to a