VS2008 and VS2005

Is it safe to load VS2008 on a VS2005 dev box?
And no - dont talk Virtual PCs that is not the question:-)

guy

RE: VS2008 and VS2005

I mean VS2008 Beta 2 :-)

guy

"guy" wrote:

> Is it safe to load VS2008 on a VS2005 dev box?
> And no - dont talk Virtual PCs that is not the question:-)
>
> guy

Re: VS2008 and VS2005

Hello guy,

they works together without any problems.
Just install Vs 2008 properly, with AJAX version redirection patch

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miss it, but that it is too low and we reach it" (c) Michelangelo


g> Is it safe to load VS2008 on a VS2005 dev box?
g> And no - dont talk Virtual PCs that is not the question:-)
g> guy
g>

Re: VS2008 and VS2005

thanks Michael

guy

"Michael Nemtsev" , "MVP" wrote:

> Hello guy,
>
> they works together without any problems.
> Just install Vs 2008 properly, with AJAX version redirection patch
>
> ---
> WBR,
> Michael Nemtsev [.NET/C# MVP] :: blog: http://spaces.live.com/laflour
>
> "The greatest danger for most of us is not that our aim is too high and we
> miss it, but that it is too low and we reach it" (c) Michelangelo
>
>
> g> Is it safe to load VS2008 on a VS2005 dev box?
> g> And no - dont talk Virtual PCs that is not the question:-)
> g> guy
> g>
>
>
>

Re: VS2008 and VS2005

Hello,

while it might work well I would never do it. You *may* run into problems
upgrading Beta 2 to RTM which may not be resolvable by removing the beta 2
before installing RTM.

Kind regards,
Henning Krause


"guy" wrote in message
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> Is it safe to load VS2008 on a VS2005 dev box?
> And no - dont talk Virtual PCs that is not the question:-)
>
> guy

Re: VS2008 and VS2005

No, it is not safe. VS 2008 is in beta 2 at this point, and I've already
experienced several issues as a result of installing it. It may affect the
behavior and/or performance of VS 2005. That said, I do have it on a couple
of machines, and have found the interference acceptable, although at times
rather frustrating.

--
HTH,

Kevin Spencer
Chicken Salad Surgeon
Microsoft MVP

"guy" wrote in message
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> Is it safe to load VS2008 on a VS2005 dev box?
> And no - dont talk Virtual PCs that is not the question:-)
>
> guy

Re: VS2008 and VS2005

Hi Guy,

Did you uninstall the Beta already once and install the beta again?
As the other show can this give issues, I did not do that yet.

Serious question

Cor

Re: VS2008 and VS2005

"guy" wrote in message
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> thanks Michael
>
> guy
>
Cor is making a valid point here. While you may well not have issues running
the two together, uninstalling the VS 2008 Beta 2 will almost certainly
break VS 2005. Check the readme in the ISO.

Re: VS2008 and VS2005

If this is a production development box, I would say no. You probably will
not have problems today, but it is not worth the risk on a production
machine. Your mileage may vary.

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Gregory A. Beamer
MVP, MCP: +I, SE, SD, DBA

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"guy" wrote in message
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> Is it safe to load VS2008 on a VS2005 dev box?
> And no - dont talk Virtual PCs that is not the question:-)
>
> guy

Re: VS2008 and VS2005

But it is so much fun to play with betaware on a production machine Kevin.
:-)

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Gregory A. Beamer
MVP, MCP: +I, SE, SD, DBA

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"Kevin Spencer" wrote in message
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> No, it is not safe. VS 2008 is in beta 2 at this point, and I've already
> experienced several issues as a result of installing it. It may affect the
> behavior and/or performance of VS 2005. That said, I do have it on a
> couple of machines, and have found the interference acceptable, although
> at times rather frustrating.
>
> --
> HTH,
>
> Kevin Spencer
> Chicken Salad Surgeon
> Microsoft MVP
>
> "guy" wrote in message
> news:94FA2AC4-6F6E-42BA-A971-8FFB14B15AB0@microsoft.com...
>> Is it safe to load VS2008 on a VS2005 dev box?
>> And no - dont talk Virtual PCs that is not the question:-)
>>
>> guy
>
>

Re: VS2008 and VS2005

On my 2 machines, I did uninstall the beta on one machine to my great
chagrin. I never did actually recover from it, so I use Visual Studio 2008
beta only on that machine. However, on the other machine, the VS 2005
installation is still affected by the Visual Studio 2008 installation, but
only to a small extent, in a few specific areas.

--
HTH,

Kevin Spencer
Chicken Salad Surgeon
Microsoft MVP

"PvdG42" wrote in message
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> "guy" wrote in message
> news:A5B26F1B-1275-42ED-8A34-8D739E815632@microsoft.com...
>> thanks Michael
>>
>> guy
>>
> Cor is making a valid point here. While you may well not have issues
> running the two together, uninstalling the VS 2008 Beta 2 will almost
> certainly break VS 2005. Check the readme in the ISO.
>

Re: VS2008 and VS2005

Another war story... the first time I installed beta 2 (in a "what the
heck" moment) it completely trashed .net; wouldn't reinstall, wouldn't
uninstall; no version of VS would work, no .net app would work. I
eventually got it working by physically deleting a load from the disk
and registry, then re-installing everything .net from scratch - but it
wasn't fun.

I absolutely believe that this was a fluke an an unlikely scenario -
but it happened. If you need the machine, keep it clean. If you are
happy to fdisk if needs-be, then give it a whirl.

Marc

Re: VS2008 and VS2005

This subject is telling me a lot how well the programmers are trained in
version upgrades. The install should be painless. A "back to basic" training
must be provided to the microsoft programmers with principles on versioning
and upgrades. Just a suggestion...

Despite my chagrin, I still admire you guys for the effort. Just a little
review of what you learned in school should suffice.

"Cowboy (Gregory A. Beamer)" wrote in
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> If this is a production development box, I would say no. You probably will
> not have problems today, but it is not worth the risk on a production
> machine. Your mileage may vary.
>
> --
> Gregory A. Beamer
> MVP, MCP: +I, SE, SD, DBA
>
> *************************************************
> | Think outside the box! |
> *************************************************
> "guy" wrote in message
> news:94FA2AC4-6F6E-42BA-A971-8FFB14B15AB0@microsoft.com...
>> Is it safe to load VS2008 on a VS2005 dev box?
>> And no - dont talk Virtual PCs that is not the question:-)
>>
>> guy
>
>

Re: VS2008 and VS2005

"Benedictum" wrote in message
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> This subject is telling me a lot how well the programmers are trained in
> version upgrades. The install should be painless. A "back to basic"
> training must be provided to the microsoft programmers with principles on
> versioning and upgrades. Just a suggestion...
>
> Despite my chagrin, I still admire you guys for the effort. Just a little
> review of what you learned in school should suffice.
>
Perhaps I'm not understanding your comment, but Visual Studio 2008 does not
install as a version upgrade to Visual Studio 2005 by design. If both are
installed on the same machine, they exist as separate products. The issues
cited here are because Visual Studio 2008 is beta test software, where the
final tweaking of install and uninstall routines has yet to be performed.
The same sorts of issues existed for those who beta tested Visual Studio
2005 on machines with Visual Studio .NET 2003 installed. Once Visual Studio
2005 went RTM, the coexistence issues were resolved.
I'm very confident the current VS 2005/VS 2008 issues will be resolved when
VS 2008 goes RTM at the end of the month. I'm enjoined from saying exactly
why I'm so confident, but...
The most important "back to basics" principle in this thread is: Never,
NEVER install beta software on a PC you depend on for production work! Doing
so is just asking for a demonstration of Murphy's law :)

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Peter [MVP Visual Developer]
Jack of all trades, master of none.

Re: VS2008 and VS2005

> Once Visual Studio
> 2005 went RTM, the coexistence issues were resolved.

Sorry, what is RTM stands for?