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In article , chilly8@hotmail.com says...
> listeners who want
> to listen from work.

When detected, and it's easy to detect, will be fired or other, and they
will come looking for you - for enabling them and tell them it won't be
caught.

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In article , chilly8@hotmail.com says...
> Again, it is NOT illegal for them to do so, as long they are not
> breaking any password. If the filter FAILS to block it, then
> it is NOT illegal for them to access, and they CANNOT
> BE PROSECUTED if the filter and/or firewall FAILS
> to block it.

And, again, you telling people to violate company policy, where they get
fired, is going to get your sorry butt in trouble.

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Chilly8 wrote:

> If the filter and/or firewall FAILS to block it,
> then you CANNOT be accused of violating company
> policy, NOR can you be prosecuted by the company.


Nonsense, of course you still can (and probably should be) accused and
prosecuted. The policy is typically not just implemented technically, but
also lawfully (f.e. by signing a document when getting access to the IT for
the first time). If the technical enforcement fails, the juristical
enforcement doesn't get any weeakr.

> If the filter and/or firewall FAIL to block it, then it is
> NOT a violation.


It is. Heck, if the policy doesn't catch the robber of the bank, isn't it
still robbery any more?

> I would say that better than 95
> percent of listeners to our skating coverage are connecting from
> outside America now. Most of the connections to our
> skating coverage are coming from Europe and Asia
> now, where skating remains popular.

Once again: WHO THE HELL CARES? You're a lousy old media streaming server
administrator of a comparably small and technically outdated web radio.
There are literally thousand of more competent and better attended web radio
hobbyists out there, and they don't brag about their radio program all the
time. As not to say: Your stupid bragging was the first time I ever heard of
Live365 at all.

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In article , chilly8@hotmail.com says...
> That being said, what I am doing, by providing the access does
> NOT violate ANY law in ANY European country. As long
> as the filters FAIL to block access to my proxy, it is NOT
> illegal. Providing the access is LEGAL in ALL European
> countries.

You keep missing the pint:

Advocating the breaking of company policies and work contracts is not
legal, it will get your ass hauled into court when your lies get someone
fired and they decide to go after you for damages for following your
suggestion.

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"Leythos" wrote in message
news:MPG.219f45f45353887598982c@adfree.usenet.com...
> In article , chilly8@hotmail.com says...
>> That being said, what I am doing, by providing the access does
>> NOT violate ANY law in ANY European country. As long
>> as the filters FAIL to block access to my proxy, it is NOT
>> illegal. Providing the access is LEGAL in ALL European
>> countries.
>
> You keep missing the pint:
>
> Advocating the breaking of company policies and work contracts is not
> legal, it will get your ass hauled into court when your lies get someone
> fired and they decide to go after you for damages for following your
> suggestion.


As I have said before, I run programs like KillDisk and Evidence
Eliminator on the station's equipment quite often. If they
cannot recover anything from your computer, that weakens
their case significantly.

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In article , chilly8@hotmail.com says...
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>
> "Leythos" wrote in message
> news:MPG.219f45f45353887598982c@adfree.usenet.com...
> > In article , chilly8@hotmail.com says...
> >> That being said, what I am doing, by providing the access does
> >> NOT violate ANY law in ANY European country. As long
> >> as the filters FAIL to block access to my proxy, it is NOT
> >> illegal. Providing the access is LEGAL in ALL European
> >> countries.
> >
> > You keep missing the pint:
> >
> > Advocating the breaking of company policies and work contracts is not
> > legal, it will get your ass hauled into court when your lies get someone
> > fired and they decide to go after you for damages for following your
> > suggestion.
>
>
> As I have said before, I run programs like KillDisk and Evidence
> Eliminator on the station's equipment quite often. If they
> cannot recover anything from your computer, that weakens
> their case significantly.

Yea, keep believing that you can't be caught, that's how they all get
caught.

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- Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a
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* Chilly8 :
> Not with Evidence Eliminator. As I have said before, because I
> cross international borders a lot, I use it to destroy any illegal
> stuff that might be there without my knowledge. EE and
> KillDisk defeat even the best forensics. Even EnCase,
> the best police forensic analysis tool on the market, cannot
> recover anything that has been destroyed by EE
> and/or KillDisk.
>
>

snicker. Keep believing that looser.

Jason

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Jason wrote:
> * Chilly8 :
>> Not with Evidence Eliminator. As I have said before, because I cross
>> international borders a lot, I use it to destroy any illegal stuff
>> that might be there without my knowledge. EE and KillDisk defeat even
>> the best forensics. Even EnCase, the best police forensic analysis
>> tool on the market, cannot recover anything that has been destroyed
>> by EE and/or KillDisk.
>
> snicker. Keep believing that looser.

Not meaning to support the troll, but KillDisk should indeed prevent
forensic tools from recovering data (provided it does overwrite the
harddisk as it claims). Doing that will take some time, though. And
leave you with a blank harddisk.

cu
59cobalt
--
"If a software developer ever believes a rootkit is a necessary part of
their architecture they should go back and re-architect their solution."
--Mark Russinovich

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In article , chilly8@hotmail.com says...
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>
> "Leythos" wrote in message
> news:MPG.219fe69d3efc1459989837@adfree.usenet.com...
> > In article , chilly8@hotmail.com says...
> >> X-No-Archvive: Yes
> >>
> >> "Leythos" wrote in message
> >> news:MPG.219f45f45353887598982c@adfree.usenet.com...
> >> > In article , chilly8@hotmail.com says...
> >> >> That being said, what I am doing, by providing the access does
> >> >> NOT violate ANY law in ANY European country. As long
> >> >> as the filters FAIL to block access to my proxy, it is NOT
> >> >> illegal. Providing the access is LEGAL in ALL European
> >> >> countries.
> >> >
> >> > You keep missing the pint:
> >> >
> >> > Advocating the breaking of company policies and work contracts is not
> >> > legal, it will get your ass hauled into court when your lies get
> >> > someone
> >> > fired and they decide to go after you for damages for following your
> >> > suggestion.
> >>
> >>
> >> As I have said before, I run programs like KillDisk and Evidence
> >> Eliminator on the station's equipment quite often. If they
> >> cannot recover anything from your computer, that weakens
> >> their case significantly.
> >
> > Yea, keep believing that you can't be caught, that's how they all get
> > caught.
>
>
> Not with Evidence Eliminator. As I have said before, because I
> cross international borders a lot, I use it to destroy any illegal
> stuff that might be there without my knowledge. EE and
> KillDisk defeat even the best forensics. Even EnCase,
> the best police forensic analysis tool on the market, cannot
> recover anything that has been destroyed by EE
> and/or KillDisk.

Yea, right, you're going to wipe your computer clean, the OS and all,
each time you travel - HA HA HA.

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Ansgar -59cobalt- Wiechers wrote:


> Not meaning to support the troll, but KillDisk should indeed prevent
> forensic tools from recovering data (provided it does overwrite the
> harddisk as it claims). Doing that will take some time, though. And
> leave you with a blank harddisk.

Still requires admin rights, which shouldn't be the case in a company IT
environment. Still it wouldn't be hard for the user to write to every file
has he access to, and thus eliminate any traces created by software running
in his context.

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In article , usenet-2007@planetcobalt.net
says...
> Jason wrote:
> > * Chilly8 :
> >> Not with Evidence Eliminator. As I have said before, because I cross
> >> international borders a lot, I use it to destroy any illegal stuff
> >> that might be there without my knowledge. EE and KillDisk defeat even
> >> the best forensics. Even EnCase, the best police forensic analysis
> >> tool on the market, cannot recover anything that has been destroyed
> >> by EE and/or KillDisk.
> >
> > snicker. Keep believing that looser.
>
> Not meaning to support the troll, but KillDisk should indeed prevent
> forensic tools from recovering data (provided it does overwrite the
> harddisk as it claims). Doing that will take some time, though. And
> leave you with a blank harddisk.

Yea, and well all know that he's not going to KILL HIS DISK each time he
travels, not to mention that we would not even need his computer to
track him - he's already shown that he is willing to do wire-fraud and
other unethical things - they can get him via several things that don't
even need a computer.

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"Chilly8" wrote in message
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> "Leythos" wrote in message
> news:MPG.21a0004bd8bfc4ff98983a@adfree.Usenet.com...
>> In article , usenet-2007@planetcobalt.net
>> says...
>>> Jason wrote:
>>> > * Chilly8 :
>>> >> Not with Evidence Eliminator. As I have said before, because I cross
>>> >> international borders a lot, I use it to destroy any illegal stuff
>>> >> that might be there without my knowledge. EE and KillDisk defeat even
>>> >> the best forensics. Even EnCase, the best police forensic analysis
>>> >> tool on the market, cannot recover anything that has been destroyed
>>> >> by EE and/or KillDisk.
>>> >
>>> > snicker. Keep believing that looser.
>>>
>>> Not meaning to support the troll, but KillDisk should indeed prevent
>>> forensic tools from recovering data (provided it does overwrite the
>>> harddisk as it claims). Doing that will take some time, though. And
>>> leave you with a blank harddisk.
>>
>> Yea, and well all know that he's not going to KILL HIS DISK each time he
>> travels, not to mention that we would not even need his computer to
>> track him - he's already shown that he is willing to do wire-fraud and
>
>
> That is NOTHING in offering an anonymous server that is wire
> fraud. It is NOT wire fraud to circumvent the company's
> bypass.
>

That should read "circumvent the company's firewall"


>

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Leythos wrote:
> In article , chilly8@hotmail.com says...
>> That being said, what I am doing, by providing the access does
>> NOT violate ANY law in ANY European country. As long
>> as the filters FAIL to block access to my proxy, it is NOT
>> illegal. Providing the access is LEGAL in ALL European
>> countries.
>
> You keep missing the pint:
>
> Advocating the breaking of company policies and work contracts is not
> legal, it will get your ass hauled into court when your lies get someone
> fired and they decide to go after you for damages for following your
> suggestion.
>
why do you guys keep trying
dont feed this idiot and let his advertising decay

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Chilly8 wrote:
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>
> "Leythos" wrote in message
> news:MPG.219fe69d3efc1459989837@adfree.usenet.com...
>> In article , chilly8@hotmail.com says...
>>> X-No-Archvive: Yes
>>>
>>> "Leythos" wrote in message
>>> news:MPG.219f45f45353887598982c@adfree.usenet.com...
>>>> In article , chilly8@hotmail.com says...
>>>>> That being said, what I am doing, by providing the access does
>>>>> NOT violate ANY law in ANY European country. As long
>>>>> as the filters FAIL to block access to my proxy, it is NOT
>>>>> illegal. Providing the access is LEGAL in ALL European
>>>>> countries.
>>>> You keep missing the pint:
>>>>
>>>> Advocating the breaking of company policies and work contracts is not
>>>> legal, it will get your ass hauled into court when your lies get
>>>> someone
>>>> fired and they decide to go after you for damages for following your
>>>> suggestion.
>>>
>>> As I have said before, I run programs like KillDisk and Evidence
>>> Eliminator on the station's equipment quite often. If they
>>> cannot recover anything from your computer, that weakens
>>> their case significantly.
>> Yea, keep believing that you can't be caught, that's how they all get
>> caught.
>
>
> Not with Evidence Eliminator. As I have said before, because I
> cross international borders a lot, I use it to destroy any illegal
> stuff that might be there without my knowledge. EE and
> KillDisk defeat even the best forensics. Even EnCase,
> the best police forensic analysis tool on the market, cannot
> recover anything that has been destroyed by EE
> and/or KillDisk.
>
>

hahahhah
do you really think police departements use off the shelf commercial
software ?

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goarilla <"kevin DOT paulus AT skynet DOT be"> wrote:
> hahahhah
> do you really think police departements use off the shelf commercial
> software ?

Ummm... EnCase isn't something you can just buy off every shelf. And
yes, The tool is very commonly used in forensic examinations.

cu
59cobalt
--
"If a software developer ever believes a rootkit is a necessary part of
their architecture they should go back and re-architect their solution."
--Mark Russinovich

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In article , chilly8@hotmail.com says...
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> "Ansgar -59cobalt- Wiechers" wrote in message
> news:fhagqrU7rjL1@news.in-ulm.de...
> > goarilla <"kevin DOT paulus AT skynet DOT be"> wrote:
> >> hahahhah
> >> do you really think police departements use off the shelf commercial
> >> software ?
> >
> > Ummm... EnCase isn't something you can just buy off every shelf. And
> > yes, The tool is very commonly used in forensic examinations.
>
> Thats because it is the BEST forensic examination tool on the market.
> If EnCase cannot recover evidence, then NOTHING can.

lol

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Ansgar -59cobalt- Wiechers wrote:
> goarilla <"kevin DOT paulus AT skynet DOT be"> wrote:
>> hahahhah
>> do you really think police departements use off the shelf commercial
>> software ?
>
> Ummm... EnCase isn't something you can just buy off every shelf. And
> yes, The tool is very commonly used in forensic examinations.
>
> cu
> 59cobalt

Corporations can buy it so in my eyes it's off the shelf commercial
software.
i don't care if pc stores don't hold it in store, pc stores also don't hold
suites like 3D Studio Max, eg ...

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goarilla <"kevin DOT paulus AT skynet DOT be"> wrote:
> Ansgar -59cobalt- Wiechers wrote:
>> goarilla <"kevin DOT paulus AT skynet DOT be"> wrote:
>>> hahahhah
>>> do you really think police departements use off the shelf commercial
>>> software ?
>>
>> Ummm... EnCase isn't something you can just buy off every shelf. And
>> yes, The tool is very commonly used in forensic examinations.
>
> Corporations can buy it so in my eyes it's off the shelf commercial
> software.
> i don't care if pc stores don't hold it in store, pc stores also don't
> hold suites like 3D Studio Max, eg ...

What exactly does that change about the fact that law enforcement
agencies actually do use EnCase?

cu
59cobalt
--
"If a software developer ever believes a rootkit is a necessary part of
their architecture they should go back and re-architect their solution."
--Mark Russinovich

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* Chilly8 :
> And En Case can easily be defeated with a session of Evidence
> Eliminator.
>
>

You keep thinking that looser and you'll end up in jail, oh no wait
you're going to end up there anyhow so it doesnt matter.

Jason

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Ansgar -59cobalt- Wiechers wrote:
> goarilla <"kevin DOT paulus AT skynet DOT be"> wrote:
>> Ansgar -59cobalt- Wiechers wrote:
>>> goarilla <"kevin DOT paulus AT skynet DOT be"> wrote:
>>>> hahahhah
>>>> do you really think police departements use off the shelf commercial
>>>> software ?
>>> Ummm... EnCase isn't something you can just buy off every shelf. And
>>> yes, The tool is very commonly used in forensic examinations.
>> Corporations can buy it so in my eyes it's off the shelf commercial
>> software.
>> i don't care if pc stores don't hold it in store, pc stores also don't
>> hold suites like 3D Studio Max, eg ...
>
> What exactly does that change about the fact that law enforcement
> agencies actually do use EnCase?
>
> cu
> 59cobalt

nothing i'm drifting off the subject
but i really think a few GNU shred's defeats software like that, has
anybody
tried it ?

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Chilly8 wrote:
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>
> "Sebastian G." wrote in message
> news:5pmr1dFs9g54U2@mid.dfncis.de...
>> Ansgar -59cobalt- Wiechers wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Not meaning to support the troll, but KillDisk should indeed prevent
>>> forensic tools from recovering data (provided it does overwrite the
>>> harddisk as it claims). Doing that will take some time, though. And
>>> leave you with a blank harddisk.
>> Still requires admin rights, which shouldn't be the case in a company IT
>> environment. Still it wouldn't be hard for the user to write to every file
>> has he access to, and thus eliminate any traces created by software
>> running in his context.
>
> There is a new solution now for listening to Live 365 from work, for U.S.
> listeners. If you have a compatable cell phone, you can now download a
> program into your cell phone, that will let you listen to Live 365 from
> any compatable cellular network in the U.S. Just download into your
> cell phone, plug in your headphones, and enjoy. Or if you have a
> "patch cable", just plug into the line-in jack in your work PC, and
> listen through your PC's speakers. However you listen, using
> Mobile 365 and your cell phone, there is no POSSIBLE way the
> boss can monitor what you are doing, since its your cell phone
> carrier that is handling the traffic.And since all the patch cable
> is doing is plugging the output from your cell phone earphone
> jack into the line-in on your PC, there is NO extra software
> needed, so NOTHING will show up in any event logs.
> As long as the PC is turned on, the music will flow through
> the speakers.
>
>

why not plug a headphone jack in your cellphone instead of using a patch
cable
and PC? And iirc cellphone traffic costs an arm and a leg. Still weather
you use a cellphone
or go via your workpc it still substitues as 'NOT WORKING' and in the
latter case as 'NOT WORKING AND
ABUSING COMPANY MATERIAL'

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goarilla <"kevin DOT paulus AT skynet DOT be"> wrote:
> Ansgar -59cobalt- Wiechers wrote:
>> goarilla <"kevin DOT paulus AT skynet DOT be"> wrote:
>>> Ansgar -59cobalt- Wiechers wrote:
>>>> Ummm... EnCase isn't something you can just buy off every shelf. And
>>>> yes, The tool is very commonly used in forensic examinations.
>>> Corporations can buy it so in my eyes it's off the shelf commercial
>>> software.
>>> i don't care if pc stores don't hold it in store, pc stores also don't
>>> hold suites like 3D Studio Max, eg ...
>>
>> What exactly does that change about the fact that law enforcement
>> agencies actually do use EnCase?
>
> nothing i'm drifting off the subject
> but i really think a few GNU shred's defeats software like that,

Of course. Even a "dd if=/dev/zero of=..." most likely will.

cu
59cobalt
--
"If a software developer ever believes a rootkit is a necessary part of
their architecture they should go back and re-architect their solution."
--Mark Russinovich