nmake for Windows 2003 64-bit edition?

Hi all,

Perhaps a little off topic, but I'm configuring ActivePerl and the PDK
on my first Windows 2003 64-bit machine. For 32-bit Windows, I've
downloaded nmake from Microsoft, but this appears to be a 32-bit only
utility.

Is there a 64-bit version of nmake available? If there's not, can
anyone recommend a version of make for Windows? From previous
experience, make under cygwin isn't applicable.

Cheers,

Preston de Guise.
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RE: nmake for Windows 2003 64-bit edition?

Preston de Guise <> wrote:
> Hi all,
> =

> Perhaps a little off topic, but I'm configuring ActivePerl and the
> PDK on my first Windows 2003 64-bit machine. For 32-bit Windows, I've
> downloaded nmake from Microsoft, but this appears to be a 32-bit only
> utility. =


What do you mean by 'configuring'? Presumably you are not trying to
build Perl as 64 bit versions are available for download, and I expect
that 64 bit versions of the PDK are available as well.
=

> =

> Is there a 64-bit version of nmake available? If there's not, can
> anyone recommend a version of make for Windows? From previous
> experience, make under cygwin isn't applicable. =


Why do you need a 64 bit version of nmake? Surely the 64 bit OS can run
32 bit programs?

Perhaps you could explain what you need nmake for, and why it needs to
be 64 bit.

HTH

-- =

Brian Raven =


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Re: nmake for Windows 2003 64-bit edition?

Hi Brian,

>> Hi all,
>>
>> Perhaps a little off topic, but I'm configuring ActivePerl and the
>> PDK on my first Windows 2003 64-bit machine. For 32-bit Windows, I've
>> downloaded nmake from Microsoft, but this appears to be a 32-bit only
>> utility.
>
> What do you mean by 'configuring'? Presumably you are not trying to
> build Perl as 64 bit versions are available for download, and I expect
> that 64 bit versions of the PDK are available as well.

Apologies for my lack of precision.

By configuring, I mean I'm building the various custom modules I need
in a Perl install that are not included by default in ActivePerl. None
of these require compilation, just the use of a make utility.

I've got ActivePerl 64-bit installed and operational, so I'm just
looking for a mechanism for rolling modules that require use of a
'make' style utility.

>> Is there a 64-bit version of nmake available? If there's not, can
>> anyone recommend a version of make for Windows? From previous
>> experience, make under cygwin isn't applicable.
>
> Why do you need a 64 bit version of nmake? Surely the 64 bit OS can
> run
> 32 bit programs?
>
> Perhaps you could explain what you need nmake for, and why it needs to
> be 64 bit.

I would not have asked if it were capable of running it. The
nmake15.exe referred to by various KnowledgeBase articles, once
downloaded and run, exits with an error that it is a valid binary, but
not for the platform it is running on.

Up until now I've had customers using 32-bit PDK compiled applications
running on 64-bit Windows, but I appear to have some code now which
doesn't work well with the (ironically named) WOW64 compatibility
layer. Having done some research this is not unheard of.

If anyone has experience in utilities available that provide 'make'
functionality that can be run on 64-bit Windows I'd appreciate their
feedback.

Cheers,

Preston.

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Re: nmake for Windows 2003 64-bit edition?

I guess this was a case of RTM. I found in ActivePerl's documentation
reference to dmake, which does work on a 64-bit Windows platform.
>
>
> If anyone has experience in utilities available that provide 'make'
> functionality that can be run on 64-bit Windows I'd appreciate their
> feedback.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Preston.

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RE: nmake for Windows 2003 64-bit edition?

On Wed, 21 Nov 2007, Brian Raven wrote:
> > Is there a 64-bit version of nmake available? If there's not, can
> > anyone recommend a version of make for Windows? From previous
> > experience, make under cygwin isn't applicable.
>
> Why do you need a 64 bit version of nmake? Surely the 64 bit OS can
> run 32 bit programs?

Yes, it can. The problem is that the old nmake15.exe is a 16 bit
program, and those are no longer supported by 64 bit Windows.

The nmake.exe from VC6 is a 32 bit program, but it cannot be freely
downloaded.

Of course you can get free 32 bit and 64 bit versions of nmake when you
install the Windows SDK, but it is *huge* (my installation of the
Windows SDK is about 1.3GB). I'm sure you can then just copy the
nmake.exe out to your own directory and uninstall the SDK, but this
sounds like an extreme measure (and big download).

dmake.exe from CPAN should work just fine with ActivePerl though, and
should also work on 64 bit Windows. Let me know if it doesn't.

Cheers,
-Jan


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