I'm doing cells in a table with
"Jud McCranie"
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> I'm doing cells in a table with
> text
> When the text is blank, the table isn't displaying correctly in IE and
> Firefox - the walls of the cell aren't drawn (although they are spaced
> correctly).
That is what is supposed to happen.
>I've tried leaving the "text" blank and putting blank
> characters in there, neither work.
>
> How can I get it to draw the walls of the cell if the text is blank?
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> I'm doing cells in a table with
>text
> When the text is blank, the table isn't displaying correctly in IE and
> Firefox - the walls of the cell aren't drawn (although they are spaced
> correctly). I've tried leaving the "text" blank and putting blank
> characters in there, neither work.
>
> How can I get it to draw the walls of the cell if the text is blank?
Use the empty cell property - http://tinyurl.com/8nztn
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On Wed, 28 Nov 2007 06:14:22 GMT, "rf"
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That works, thanks. That puts a half space in there, right?
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On Wed, 28 Nov 2007 06:15:10 GMT, Adrienne Boswell Jud McCranie wrote: Jud McCranie wrote: On Wed, 28 Nov 2007 12:35:30 -0500, "Jonathan N. Little" Jud McCranie wrote: On Wed, 28 Nov 2007 16:24:39 -0500, "Jonathan N. Little" Jud McCranie wrote: On Wed, 28 Nov 2007 19:38:34 -0500, Ed Mullen Jud McCranie wrote: On Wed, 28 Nov 2007 21:05:16 -0500, Ed Mullen Scripsit Jud McCranie: On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 00:43:23 +0200, "Jukka K. Korpela" Sometimes I have to put a blank space in an empty cell to indicate
wrote:
>Use the empty cell property - http://tinyurl.com/8nztn
I couldn't get that to work. I tried:
but neither worked. What's wrong?
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Re: empty cells in a table not displaying correctly
am 28.11.2007 18:20:25 von Harlan Messinger
> On Wed, 28 Nov 2007 06:14:22 GMT, "rf"
>
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>
> That works, thanks. That puts a half space in there, right?
>
No half-space. It puts in a full non-breaking space, however the browser
happens to interpret that.Re: empty cells in a table not displaying correctly
am 28.11.2007 18:35:30 von lws4art
> On Wed, 28 Nov 2007 06:15:10 GMT, Adrienne Boswell
> wrote:
>
>> Use the empty cell property - http://tinyurl.com/8nztn
>
> I couldn't get that to work. I tried:
>
>
> but neither worked. What's wrong?
It is a CSS property not an HTML attribute.
either in your stylesheet add
table { empty-cells: show; }
or put inline in the HTML attribute STYLE:
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Re: empty cells in a table not displaying correctly
am 28.11.2007 20:46:19 von Jud McCranie
>
That works in Firefox but not IE. (However, the works in
both).
I'm not very familiar with HTML - I'm writing a program that generates
some HYML tables as output.
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Re: empty cells in a table not displaying correctly
am 28.11.2007 22:24:39 von lws4art
> On Wed, 28 Nov 2007 12:35:30 -0500, "Jonathan N. Little"
>
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>
> That works in Firefox but not IE. (However, the works in
> both).
You now know a web designer's pain, it is summed up in two little
letters...IE!
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Re: empty cells in a table not displaying correctly
am 28.11.2007 23:12:39 von Jud McCranie
>> That works in Firefox but not IE. (However, the works in
>> both).
>
>You now know a web designer's pain, it is summed up in two little
>letters...IE!
Yes, I would have thought that IE would be standard.
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am 29.11.2007 01:38:34 von Ed Mullen
> On Wed, 28 Nov 2007 16:24:39 -0500, "Jonathan N. Little"
>
>
>>> That works in Firefox but not IE. (However, the works in
>>> both).
>> You now know a web designer's pain, it is summed up in two little
>> letters...IE!
>
> Yes, I would have thought that IE would be standard.
Depends on what you mean by "standard."
Ubiquitous? Ok, IE is that.
Conforming to accepted agree-upon industry standards? No, IE is
decidedly not. IE7 is getting closer, for sure. Still, anything less
is a morass into which no sane Web page creator wants to willingly go.
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am 29.11.2007 02:57:07 von Jud McCranie
>Depends on what you mean by "standard."
I meant "adhering to standards" rather than being widespread (i.e. a
de facto standard).
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am 29.11.2007 03:05:16 von Ed Mullen
> On Wed, 28 Nov 2007 19:38:34 -0500, Ed Mullen
>
>> Depends on what you mean by "standard."
>
> I meant "adhering to standards" rather than being widespread (i.e. a
> de facto standard).
Then, no, IE is decidedly not standard. It is an amalgam of proprietary
implementations of standards rendering them incompatible with the
standards. And, it implements many things that do not exist in the
standards and, hence, nothing other than IE can deal with without
extreme work-around programming.
Did that help?
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am 29.11.2007 04:27:05 von Jud McCranie
>Did that help?
Yes, it did. I have my program working correctly, thanks to everyone
who replied.
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am 29.11.2007 23:43:23 von jkorpela
>>
>
> That works, thanks. That puts a half space in there, right?
No, by definition means the NO-BREAK SPACE character, which is
like the SPACE but probihits line breaks before and after (which means
nothing here) and, as a strange effect due to oddities in web browsers,
partly described in HTML specs, acts as nonempty content in a table
cell.
So it's more or less a hack but it works, mostly. It causes trouble if
you want to make the cell very small in either direction, since NO-BREAK
SPACE has some definite width and some height.
It's a good idea to consider whether it would be better to insert some
other content into the cell, such as "N/A" or "0" or "–" or
whatever constitutes a useful indication or hint. After all, the user
might not immediately realize _why_ the cell is empty and might even
assume that it might be an error.
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am 30.11.2007 04:01:50 von Jud McCranie
>So it's more or less a hack but it works, mostly.
It worked for me in IE and Firefox.
>It's a good idea to consider whether it would be better to insert some
>other content into the cell, such as "N/A" or "0" or "–" or
>whatever constitutes a useful indication or hint. After all, the user
>might not immediately realize _why_ the cell is empty and might even
>assume that it might be an error.
You have a point, but I specifically wanted a blank for "no value" and
the person I'm writing the program for agreed. The table is a list of
players at a tournament with their total points. Then there are four
columns for different tiebreakers. But usually the first tiebreaker
is decisive and printing all of them has confused people in the past.
The program shows only the tiebreakers that are relevant and blanks
for the rest (even though they are calculated).
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am 03.12.2007 09:12:29 von DocuMaker
that the cell even exists:
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On Nov 27, 10:07 pm, Jud McCranie
wrote:
> I'm doing cells in a table with
> text
> When the text is blank, the table isn't displaying correctly in IE and
> Firefox - the walls of the cell aren't drawn (although they are spaced
> correctly). I've tried leaving the "text" blank and putting blank
> characters in there, neither work.
>
> How can I get it to draw the walls of the cell if the text is blank?
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