What function allows conversion md5 in text
am 01.12.2007 08:34:55 von ZiggyHello,
What function allows conversion md5 in text?
Thanks in advance
Thierry
Hello,
What function allows conversion md5 in text?
Thanks in advance
Thierry
What function reverse md5 result in original form?
"Ziggy"
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> Hello,
>
> What function allows conversion md5 in text?
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Thierry
>
>
>
Ziggy;106343 Wrote:
> Hello,
>
> What function allows conversion md5 in text?
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Thierry
I am not sure I understand, MD5 returns a string
http://www.php.net/md5
string md5 ( string $str [, bool $raw_output ] )
What are you trying to do?
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Ziggy;106344 Wrote:
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> "Ziggy"
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> 47510e9c$1$11771$426a74cc@news.free.fr...
> > Hello,
> >
> > What function allows conversion md5 in text?
> >
> > Thanks in advance
> >
> > Thierry
> >
> >
> >
>
> What function reverse md5 result in original form?
>
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There are no functions to do that, (well they might be one or two but
1) they don't guaranty to be the same, original, form, 2) they can
takes days to run.
Otherwise what would be the point of MD5?
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Thank you for your answer, it was a translation error
I want reverse md5 result in original form but I think it's not possible.
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> Ziggy;106343 Wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> What function allows conversion md5 in text?
>>
>> Thanks in advance
>>
>> Thierry
>
> I am not sure I understand, MD5 returns a string
>
> http://www.php.net/md5
> string md5 ( string $str [, bool $raw_output ] )
>
> What are you trying to do?
>
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Ziggy;106351 Wrote:
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> > http://www.php.net/md5
> > string md5 ( string $str [, bool $raw_output ] )
> >
>
> Thank you for your answer, it was a translation error
> I want reverse md5 result in original form but I think it's not
> possible.
>
>
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It is not possible. Otherwise MD5 would be useless.
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Hello,
Try Google
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=md5+reverse
But as others have said, it is hard to derive the exact text
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> Hello,
>
> What function allows conversion md5 in text?
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Thierry
>
>
>
Ziggy schrieb:
> Thank you for your answer, it was a translation error
> I want reverse md5 result in original form but I think it's not possible.
If the text is short then there MIGHT be a solution for your paticular
problem. There are MD5 databases that have really large lists of MD5
input/hash pairs indexed by hash values. Google for "md5 reverse". There
is a small chance to find your input if it was just some characters long.
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Oliver Grätz wrote:
> Ziggy schrieb:
>> Thank you for your answer, it was a translation error
>> I want reverse md5 result in original form but I think it's not possible.
>
> If the text is short then there MIGHT be a solution for your paticular
> problem. There are MD5 databases that have really large lists of MD5
> input/hash pairs indexed by hash values. Google for "md5 reverse". There
> is a small chance to find your input if it was just some characters long.
>
>
> OLLi
>
Nope. There are a huge number of strings which can generate the same
MD5. Which one do you want?
Those MD5 databases are only good for duplicating a specific MD5 hash.
They can't tell you what the original was.
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Jerry Stuckle schrieb:
> Oliver Grätz wrote:
>> Ziggy schrieb:
>>> I want reverse md5 result in original form but I think it's not possi=
ble.
>> If the text is short then there MIGHT be a solution for your paticular=
>> problem. There are MD5 databases that have really large lists of MD5
>> input/hash pairs indexed by hash values. Google for "md5 reverse". The=
re
>> is a small chance to find your input if it was just some characters lo=
ng.
>=20
> Nope. There are a huge number of strings which can generate the same=20
> MD5. Which one do you want?
>=20
> Those MD5 databases are only good for duplicating a specific MD5 hash. =
> They can't tell you what the original was.
Ziggy didn't tell us for what application he needed to revert MD5. If it
was about password restoration, then reverse MD5 lookup databases ARE a
possible solution. I precisely narrowed the usability of my answer down
to "short strings" and "a small chance to find _your_ input".
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Oliver Grätz wrote:
> Jerry Stuckle schrieb:
>> Oliver Grätz wrote:
>>> Ziggy schrieb:
>>>> I want reverse md5 result in original form but I think it's not possible.
>>> If the text is short then there MIGHT be a solution for your paticular
>>> problem. There are MD5 databases that have really large lists of MD5
>>> input/hash pairs indexed by hash values. Google for "md5 reverse". There
>>> is a small chance to find your input if it was just some characters long.
>> Nope. There are a huge number of strings which can generate the same
>> MD5. Which one do you want?
>>
>> Those MD5 databases are only good for duplicating a specific MD5 hash.
>> They can't tell you what the original was.
>
> Ziggy didn't tell us for what application he needed to revert MD5. If it
> was about password restoration, then reverse MD5 lookup databases ARE a
> possible solution. I precisely narrowed the usability of my answer down
> to "short strings" and "a small chance to find _your_ input".
>
> OLLi
>
And I still stand by my statement. They are not valid for finding an
original string. Even a string of 5 characters may have a duplicate
hash. And the longer you get, the more likely you are to have a
duplicate. Or a password of 'ksfjlksahoh3ndskjvcn' just might have the
same hash as 'abc', for instance.
There is no way you can tell what the original text was. But you can
find one or more values which will generate the same has as you have.
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Jerry Stuckle schrieb:
> And I still stand by my statement. They are not valid for finding an
> original string. Even a string of 5 characters may have a duplicate
> hash. And the longer you get, the more likely you are to have a
> duplicate. Or a password of 'ksfjlksahoh3ndskjvcn' just might have the
> same hash as 'abc', for instance.
No it might not, MD5 is not THAT unstable. You need 2.6 x 10^18 input
messages to achieve a collision probability of 1%. The collision
probability for *two* *short* inputs (that's BOTH of them being SHORT)
is EXTREMELY (no, really !) low. And, to use your example, I guess Ziggy
will recall if "ksfjlksahoh3ndskjvcn" or "abc" was his password or - if
he tried to recover the password for someone else, then that person will
be able to tell them apart. The other way round, if someone wants to
find an input to reproduce a certain hash in order to get into a system
where only the encoded password is known and cannot be changed, then ANY
of the inputs will work so IT DOESN'T MATTER if he gets "abc" or
"ksfjlksahoh3ndskjvcn" as an answer.
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Greetings, Ziggy.
In reply to Your message dated Saturday, December 1, 2007, 11:20:42,
> Thank you for your answer, it was a translation error
> I want reverse md5 result in original form but I think it's not possible.
There is NO original form. MD5 is a checksum, not a chipher or something
other.
And PLEASE DO NOT top-post.
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Greetings, Jerry Stuckle.
In reply to Your message dated Saturday, December 1, 2007, 16:36:05,
> Nope. There are a huge number of strings which can generate the same
> MD5. Which one do you want?
Any, if that generates the needed MD5 hash.
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Oliver Grätz wrote:
> Jerry Stuckle schrieb:
>> And I still stand by my statement. They are not valid for finding an
>> original string. Even a string of 5 characters may have a duplicate
>> hash. And the longer you get, the more likely you are to have a
>> duplicate. Or a password of 'ksfjlksahoh3ndskjvcn' just might have the
>> same hash as 'abc', for instance.
>
> No it might not, MD5 is not THAT unstable. You need 2.6 x 10^18 input
> messages to achieve a collision probability of 1%. The collision
> probability for *two* *short* inputs (that's BOTH of them being SHORT)
> is EXTREMELY (no, really !) low. And, to use your example, I guess Ziggy
> will recall if "ksfjlksahoh3ndskjvcn" or "abc" was his password or - if
> he tried to recover the password for someone else, then that person will
> be able to tell them apart. The other way round, if someone wants to
> find an input to reproduce a certain hash in order to get into a system
> where only the encoded password is known and cannot be changed, then ANY
> of the inputs will work so IT DOESN'T MATTER if he gets "abc" or
> "ksfjlksahoh3ndskjvcn" as an answer.
>
> OLLi
>
Extremely low is not the same as nonexistent. And I'm not sure where
you got that figure, but it's nowhere near the figures I've heard.
Also, while my example was meant to be very simple and obvious, the
password owner may not be able to tell which is is - at least if he's
using secure passwords.
And no, it doesn't matter which one the user uses to get into the
system. Which is why my comment that it is only useful for recreating
known hash values.
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Jerry Stuckle schrieb:
>> The other way round, if someone wants to
>> find an input to reproduce a certain hash in order to get into a system
>> where only the encoded password is known and cannot be changed, then ANY
>> of the inputs will work so IT DOESN'T MATTER if he gets "abc" or
>> "ksfjlksahoh3ndskjvcn" as an answer.
>
> And no, it doesn't matter which one the user uses to get into the
> system. Which is why my comment that it is only useful for recreating
> known hash values.
Then don't respond to ME who suggested the reverse lookup approach for
the already stated applications but to THE ORIGINAL POSTER.
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Oliver Grätz wrote:
> Jerry Stuckle schrieb:
>>> The other way round, if someone wants to
>>> find an input to reproduce a certain hash in order to get into a system
>>> where only the encoded password is known and cannot be changed, then ANY
>>> of the inputs will work so IT DOESN'T MATTER if he gets "abc" or
>>> "ksfjlksahoh3ndskjvcn" as an answer.
>> And no, it doesn't matter which one the user uses to get into the
>> system. Which is why my comment that it is only useful for recreating
>> known hash values.
>
> Then don't respond to ME who suggested the reverse lookup approach for
> the already stated applications but to THE ORIGINAL POSTER.
>
> OLLi
>
You're the one who suggested a reverse lookup was valid for recreating
the original values, not the poster. That's why I responded to you -
because it's not useful for that.
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