Fw: Next version of perl?

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Paco


----- Original Message -----
From: Paco Zarabozo A.
To: activeperl@listserv.ActiveState.com
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 5:00 PM
Subject: Re: Next version of perl?


Perl 6 depends on Java??

What does it mean? Will Perl become a Java extension/module instead of
continue to be an independent language/compiler/interpreter?? Please tell me
i'm getting it wrong!

Paco


----- Original Message -----
From: Mark Pryor
To: Phillip Richcreek ; activeperl@listserv.ActiveState.com
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 4:40 PM
Subject: Re: Next version of perl?



--- Phillip Richcreek wrote:

> A while back I used to see an occasional question
> about an upcoming version
> of perl, version 6 I believe. Is this still in the
> works or have I missed
> something? Is version 6 expected to include a perl
> compiler?
>
> TIA,
>
> Phil

You can try out Perl6 right now with Fedora 8 or 9 -
don't remember which. What you will notice right away
is that perl depends on Java!

Its a free download and it should be immediately
usable.

--
Mark


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RE: Next version of perl?

On Thu, 13 Dec 2007, Paco Zarabozo A. wrote:
> On Thu, 13 Dec 2007, Mark Pryor wrote:
> > --- Phillip Richcreek wrote:
> >
> > > A while back I used to see an occasional question about an
> > > upcoming version of perl, version 6 I believe. Is this still in
> > > the works or have I missed something? Is version 6 expected to
> > > include a perl compiler?
> >
> > You can try out Perl6 right now with Fedora 8 or 9 - don't remember
> > which. What you will notice right away is that perl depends on Java!
> >
> > Its a free download and it should be immediately usable.
>
> Perl 6 depends on Java??
>
> What does it mean? Will Perl become a Java extension/module instead of
> continue to be an independent language/compiler/interpreter?? Please
> tell me i'm getting it wrong!

Yes, this is all wrong! :)

Perl 6 has not finished the initial design phase yet; Larry is still
making changes to the language "specification". You can get check out
the current design documents here:

http://dev.perl.org/perl6/doc/synopsis.html

There are *multiple* *partial* implementations of the current spec set,
including:

Pugs - written in Haskell, most-complete, runs very slowly
KindaPerl6 - written in Perl5, also runs slowly
Not Quiet Perl - runs on top of Parrot, should be the fastest

Parrot itself, and its compiler tools are also still under development.

So while you can download various snapshots of these projects to play
around with, they are not ready for serious deployment. And drawing
conclusions about implementation details from any of these projects
makes only limited sense, given that everything is still in flux.

Cheers,
-Jan


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Re: Next version of perl?

I think another simple answer to the question will be:
1. Perl6 is not coming out yet, and not anytime too soon
2. In the meantime, look forward to be upcoming release of Perl 5.10

Jan Dubois wrote:
> On Thu, 13 Dec 2007, Paco Zarabozo A. wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 13 Dec 2007, Mark Pryor wrote:
>>
>>> --- Phillip Richcreek wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> A while back I used to see an occasional question about an
>>>> upcoming version of perl, version 6 I believe. Is this still in
>>>> the works or have I missed something? Is version 6 expected to
>>>> include a perl compiler?
>>>>
>>> You can try out Perl6 right now with Fedora 8 or 9 - don't remember
>>> which. What you will notice right away is that perl depends on Java!
>>>
>>> Its a free download and it should be immediately usable.
>>>
>> Perl 6 depends on Java??
>>
>> What does it mean? Will Perl become a Java extension/module instead of
>> continue to be an independent language/compiler/interpreter?? Please
>> tell me i'm getting it wrong!
>>
>
> Yes, this is all wrong! :)
>
> Perl 6 has not finished the initial design phase yet; Larry is still
> making changes to the language "specification". You can get check out
> the current design documents here:
>
> http://dev.perl.org/perl6/doc/synopsis.html
>
> There are *multiple* *partial* implementations of the current spec set,
> including:
>
> Pugs - written in Haskell, most-complete, runs very slowly
> KindaPerl6 - written in Perl5, also runs slowly
> Not Quiet Perl - runs on top of Parrot, should be the fastest
>
> Parrot itself, and its compiler tools are also still under development.
>
> So while you can download various snapshots of these projects to play
> around with, they are not ready for serious deployment. And drawing
> conclusions about implementation details from any of these projects
> makes only limited sense, given that everything is still in flux.
>
> Cheers,
> -Jan
>
>
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