Re: What WAMP package do you advice ?

Re: What WAMP package do you advice ?

am 18.12.2007 23:27:35 von Macca

Why use a WAMP package anyway?

It only takes about half an hour to install apache mysql and php on
windows anyway, why not just do it normally?

Re: What WAMP package do you advice ?

am 19.12.2007 11:41:02 von YoLed

In article <36877248-393a-4e2b-8489-
626a29a7c2dc@l1g2000hsa.googlegroups.com>, ptmcnally@googlemail.com
says...
> Why use a WAMP package anyway?
>
> It only takes about half an hour to install apache mysql and php on
> windows anyway, why not just do it normally?
>

I don't know, it's just a question. So, I could ask like this : what's
the advantage of a WAMP and what's the one you use if any ?

Re: What WAMP package do you advice ?

am 19.12.2007 14:53:55 von Macca

> what's the advantage of a WAMP and what's the one you use if any ?

I use a WAMP environment for development but I don't use a package.

I suppose the benefit of WAMP packages such a XAMP is the speed of
which you can get it all installed and up and running.

They are easy to install (non-technical), but what do you learn by
clicking a few mouse buttons?


You can download a MySQL installer from mysql.com, an apache installer
from apache.org and the php files (as a zip) from php.net.
Theres loads of information on the net how to get them all working
together, notably on php.net.

It took me a bit longer the first time I did it but configuring them
together helped me understand PHP better. It's worth trying.

Re: What WAMP package do you advice ?

am 19.12.2007 14:59:00 von Csaba

"macca" wrote in message
news:43e6bf3d-9308-4671-9642-b393b1212e0e@d27g2000prf.google groups.com...
>> what's the advantage of a WAMP and what's the one you use if any ?
>
> I use a WAMP environment for development but I don't use a package.
>
> I suppose the benefit of WAMP packages such a XAMP is the speed of
> which you can get it all installed and up and running.
>
> They are easy to install (non-technical), but what do you learn by
> clicking a few mouse buttons?
>
>
> You can download a MySQL installer from mysql.com, an apache
> installer
> from apache.org and the php files (as a zip) from php.net.
> Theres loads of information on the net how to get them all working
> together, notably on php.net.
>
> It took me a bit longer the first time I did it but configuring them
> together helped me understand PHP better. It's worth trying.

Some packages have configuration tools that can be handy if you use it
as a development server.
Maybe you should try one before you vent your opinion?
You clearly have no idea what the packages are about.

I use WampServer for small scale local development.

Richard.

Re: What WAMP package do you advice ?

am 19.12.2007 16:41:20 von Macca

>Maybe you should try one before you vent your opinion?

That's a bit presumptuous isn't it Richard? I never said that I had
not tried a WAMP package, I have. I said that I prefer not to use one.
Theres no need to be rude. I am entitled to my opinion.


> You clearly have no idea what the packages are about.


As I said in my last post, there may be benefits to using a package,
but it all depends on what your trying to achieve.

For an easy install, just to get going - by all means use a package.
But if, like me, you are trying to learn as much about development
using a AMP architecture, you are likely to learn more by doing it
yourself.

Re: What WAMP package do you advice ?

am 20.12.2007 13:24:35 von YoLed

In article <43e6bf3d-9308-4671-9642-
b393b1212e0e@d27g2000prf.googlegroups.com>, ptmcnally@googlemail.com
says...
> You can download a MySQL installer from mysql.com, an apache installer
> from apache.org and the php files (as a zip) from php.net.
> Theres loads of information on the net how to get them all working
> together, notably on php.net.
>

It's what I've started to do. I've already Apache 2.0 installed since a
long time, so I've started by installing PHP5 : it's now done and well
tested (took me one hour going slowly).

This morning, I've downloaded MySQL Server 5.1 Community (the 84MB
package containing setup.exe only) and installed it : all install gone
well. At the end, I've configured using the provided Wizard : just
indicated a root pass and to run as service on Windows start-up.

Now, I have a problem : the MySQL service refuses to be launched. I've
tried manually too and the .err file says this :

*********
InnoDB: Error: log file .\ib_logfile0 is of different size 0 5242880
bytes
InnoDB: than specified in the .cnf file 0 10485760 bytes!
071220 13:00:00 [ERROR] Plugin 'InnoDB' init function returned error.
071220 13:00:00 [ERROR] Plugin 'InnoDB' registration as a STORAGE ENGINE
failed.
071220 13:00:00 [ERROR] Unknown/unsupported table type: INNODB
071220 13:00:00 [ERROR] Aborting

071220 13:00:00 [Note] E:\mysql\bin\mysqld: Shutdown complete
**********

I'm stopped here :-(

I've, of course, posted my question on comp.database.mysql, but if you
have an idea too, it's welcome ;)

Re: What WAMP package do you advice ?

am 20.12.2007 14:26:46 von YoLed

In article ,
invalid@nospam.org says...
> *********
> InnoDB: Error: log file .\ib_logfile0 is of different size 0 5242880
> bytes
> InnoDB: than specified in the .cnf file 0 10485760 bytes!
> 071220 13:00:00 [ERROR] Plugin 'InnoDB' init function returned error.
> 071220 13:00:00 [ERROR] Plugin 'InnoDB' registration as a STORAGE ENGINE
> failed.
> 071220 13:00:00 [ERROR] Unknown/unsupported table type: INNODB
> 071220 13:00:00 [ERROR] Aborting
>
> 071220 13:00:00 [Note] E:\mysql\bin\mysqld: Shutdown complete
> **********
>

Solved following a way given by J.O. Aho on comp.datbase.mysql which
consist to delete ib_logfile0, then start the daemon.

I can now continue...

Re: What WAMP package do you advice ?

am 21.12.2007 16:30:14 von alex.w474

On Dec 19, 12:27 am, macca wrote:
> Why use a WAMP package anyway?
>
> It only takes about half an hour to installapachemysql andphpon
> windows anyway, why not just do it normally?

It's all about the integration. Many packages, one point of control. I
prefer witsuite.com - it is as simple as a few mouse clicks:
http://www.witsuite.com/products/installer/