Win Vista to Mac Server VNC question
Win Vista to Mac Server VNC question
am 23.12.2007 00:15:16 von AL Lawrance
I need some guidance on how to connect a WIN VISTA machine (at home) to a
MAC SERVER at work to do work on a Filemaker Pro database hosted by the MAC
server. The MAC server has a copy of Filemaker Pro installed on it.
so .. if anyone provide me with information on how to achieve this ... what
VNC software to use that will allow a WIN Vista machine to "talk" to a MAC
machine.... and how to set it up would be greatly appreciated.
Al Lawrance
Re: Win Vista to Mac Server VNC question
am 23.12.2007 00:46:10 von Tom Stiller
In article <8Ugbj.3270$vd4.1144@pd7urf1no>,
"AL Lawrance" wrote:
> I need some guidance on how to connect a WIN VISTA machine (at home) to a
> MAC SERVER at work to do work on a Filemaker Pro database hosted by the MAC
> server. The MAC server has a copy of Filemaker Pro installed on it.
>
> so .. if anyone provide me with information on how to achieve this ... what
> VNC software to use that will allow a WIN Vista machine to "talk" to a MAC
> machine.... and how to set it up would be greatly appreciated.
>
Either "OSXvnc" or "Vine Server", available from VersionTracker of
MacUpdate can be used on the Mac. Use whatever VNC client you choose
for the Vista environment.
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Re: Win Vista to Mac Server VNC question
am 23.12.2007 07:13:09 von AL Lawrance
Tom...
I am new at this... so if I use Remote Connection supplied with WIN Vista I
can connect to a MAC Server that has OSX vnc on it??? or am I missing
something. Thanks for your input.
Must the OSCvnc be running on the MAC before I can make a connection to it
using the Remote Connection in WIN Vista? or is the OSX vnc running in the
background all the time on the MAC server?
Al Lawrance
"Tom Stiller" wrote in message
news:tomstiller-0864ED.18461022122007@newsgroups.comcast.net ...
> In article <8Ugbj.3270$vd4.1144@pd7urf1no>,
> "AL Lawrance" wrote:
>
>> I need some guidance on how to connect a WIN VISTA machine (at home) to a
>> MAC SERVER at work to do work on a Filemaker Pro database hosted by the
>> MAC
>> server. The MAC server has a copy of Filemaker Pro installed on it.
>>
>> so .. if anyone provide me with information on how to achieve this ...
>> what
>> VNC software to use that will allow a WIN Vista machine to "talk" to a
>> MAC
>> machine.... and how to set it up would be greatly appreciated.
>>
>
> Either "OSXvnc" or "Vine Server", available from VersionTracker of
> MacUpdate can be used on the Mac. Use whatever VNC client you choose
> for the Vista environment.
>
> --
> Tom Stiller
>
> PGP fingerprint = 5108 DDB2 9761 EDE5 E7E3 7BDA 71ED 6496 99C0 C7CF
Re: Win Vista to Mac Server VNC question
am 23.12.2007 07:25:41 von Howard Schlossberg
Are you sure your security setup requires VNC? If you have the file
open in FileMaker on the server machine, and you have sharing turned on
in FileMaker for 'FileMaker Network", and you have your firewall open
for ports 5003, 50003, and 50006, then you shoud be able to open FMP on
your remote machine, go to Open > Open Remote, enter the IP address and
see the file listed to open directly via the internet from FMP.
AL Lawrance wrote:
> I need some guidance on how to connect a WIN VISTA machine (at home) to a
> MAC SERVER at work to do work on a Filemaker Pro database hosted by the MAC
> server. The MAC server has a copy of Filemaker Pro installed on it.
>
> so .. if anyone provide me with information on how to achieve this ... what
> VNC software to use that will allow a WIN Vista machine to "talk" to a MAC
> machine.... and how to set it up would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Al Lawrance
>
>
--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Howard Schlossberg
FM Professional Solutions, Inc. Los Angeles
FileMaker 8 Certified Developer
Member, FileMaker Business Alliance
Re: Win Vista to Mac Server VNC question
am 23.12.2007 07:46:06 von AL Lawrance
Thanks Howard...
I will have to contact the Tech Supervisor that manges the MAC network and
try this solution out. I post the outcome in a few days since I may not
be able to contact him until after the holidays..
Al Lawrance
"Howard Schlossberg" wrote in message
news:13mrvr6cidt5q0a@corp.supernews.com...
> Are you sure your security setup requires VNC? If you have the file open
> in FileMaker on the server machine, and you have sharing turned on in
> FileMaker for 'FileMaker Network", and you have your firewall open for
> ports 5003, 50003, and 50006, then you shoud be able to open FMP on your
> remote machine, go to Open > Open Remote, enter the IP address and see the
> file listed to open directly via the internet from FMP.
>
> AL Lawrance wrote:
>> I need some guidance on how to connect a WIN VISTA machine (at home) to a
>> MAC SERVER at work to do work on a Filemaker Pro database hosted by the
>> MAC server. The MAC server has a copy of Filemaker Pro installed on it.
>>
>> so .. if anyone provide me with information on how to achieve this ...
>> what VNC software to use that will allow a WIN Vista machine to "talk" to
>> a MAC machine.... and how to set it up would be greatly appreciated.
>>
>> Al Lawrance
>
> --
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Howard Schlossberg
> FM Professional Solutions, Inc. Los Angeles
>
> FileMaker 8 Certified Developer
> Member, FileMaker Business Alliance
Re: Win Vista to Mac Server VNC question
am 23.12.2007 16:05:42 von Tom Stiller
In article ,
"AL Lawrance" wrote:
> "Tom Stiller" wrote in message
> news:tomstiller-0864ED.18461022122007@newsgroups.comcast.net ...
> > In article <8Ugbj.3270$vd4.1144@pd7urf1no>, "AL Lawrance"
> > wrote:
> >
> >> I need some guidance on how to connect a WIN VISTA machine (at
> >> home) to a MAC SERVER at work to do work on a Filemaker Pro
> >> database hosted by the MAC server. The MAC server has a copy of
> >> Filemaker Pro installed on it.
> >>
> >> so .. if anyone provide me with information on how to achieve
> >> this ... what VNC software to use that will allow a WIN Vista
> >> machine to "talk" to a MAC machine.... and how to set it up would
> >> be greatly appreciated.
> >>
> >
> > Either "OSXvnc" or "Vine Server", available from VersionTracker of
> > MacUpdate can be used on the Mac. Use whatever VNC client you
> > choose for the Vista environment.
> >
> Tom...
>
> I am new at this... so if I use Remote Connection supplied with WIN Vista I
> can connect to a MAC Server that has OSX vnc on it??? or am I missing
> something. Thanks for your input.
>
> Must the be running on the MAC before I can make a connection to it
> using the Remote Connection in WIN Vista? or is the OSX vnc running in the
> background all the time on the MAC server?
I know nothing about the Remote Connection supplied with WIN Vista. If
it is a proper VNC client, it should work without problems. If not,
there are free and freely available VNC clients for most OS
architectures.
OSCvnc must be running on the Mac (not MAC, that's something else)
before you can connect with a VNC client. Weather you keep it running
in he background all the time (I do) or not is up to you.
Finally, please do not "top post". Place your reply below the test to
which you are responding so that one may follow the sequence of thought
more easily.
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Re: Win Vista to Mac Server VNC question
am 23.12.2007 19:19:37 von pmanet
AL Lawrance wrote:
> Must the OSCvnc be running on the MAC before I can make a connection to it
VNC is part of the mac OS ; you have to activate it (under : Apple
Remote Desktop in the OS prefs, with all other sharing features : Apple
share, Windows share, web server, SSH, FTP, XGrid...) and specificaly
allow some user to connect in the VNC mode
> using the Remote Connection in WIN Vista?
use whatever VNC client on the Vista side
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Re: Win Vista to Mac Server VNC question
am 23.12.2007 19:19:38 von pmanet
Howard Schlossberg wrote:
> Open > Open Remote, enter the IP address and
> see the file listed to open directly via the internet from FMP.
surely, but it's a good thing to have a remote access to the server for
maintenance, and VNC is a good way to do that.
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Re: Win Vista to Mac Server VNC question
am 23.12.2007 19:53:55 von AL Lawrance
"manet" wrote in message
news:200712231919371159951@[10.0.1.1]...
> AL Lawrance wrote:
>
>> Must the OSCvnc be running on the MAC before I can make a connection to
>> it
>
>
> VNC is part of the mac OS ; you have to activate it (under : Apple
> Remote Desktop in the OS prefs, with all other sharing features : Apple
> share, Windows share, web server, SSH, FTP, XGrid...) and specificaly
> allow some user to connect in the VNC mode
>
>
>> using the Remote Connection in WIN Vista?
>
> use whatever VNC client on the Vista side
>
>
> --
> www.D-L-S.org
Very helpful .... I want to do it with VNC (as you descrubed) rather than
Howard's suggestion b/c if I am changing the database structure and I get a
dropped connection during a write operation then the database will become
corrupt -- the relationships will all be lost. With VNC... a dropped
connection will not be harmful to the database structure .... just
irritating b/c I have to re-connect but the application is still running on
the Server.
Al
Re: Win Vista to Mac Server VNC question
am 24.12.2007 14:08:54 von Christoph Bouthillier
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"AL Lawrance" schreef in bericht
news:8Ugbj.3270$vd4.1144@pd7urf1no...
>I need some guidance on how to connect a WIN VISTA machine (at home) to a
>MAC SERVER at work to do work on a Filemaker Pro database hosted by the
>MAC server. The MAC server has a copy of Filemaker Pro installed on it.
>
> so .. if anyone provide me with information on how to achieve this ...
> what VNC software to use that will allow a WIN Vista machine to "talk" to
> a MAC machine.... and how to set it up would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Al Lawrance
Hello Al,
Just a few days ago I set up a XServe G4 with Leopard on it in a server
farm. I switched on "remote" on the server, the VNC client (on my Win XP)
has then indeed direct access.
BUT... this is definitely not working well for me for the following reasons:
VNC is basically non-encrypted - I don't like that.
UltraVNC e.g. does have an encryption plugin but I did not succeed so far in
telling Leopard to 'understand' it.
What's much worse, in about 30% of my connections, after some 'walking'
remotely around in the Finder, not doing anything grave/bad/special, the VNC
connection freezes. Leopard luckily keeps on running ((S)FTP-ing is still OK
and HTML is still served allright) but there is *no way* to get into the
server again via VNC in such a situation. I also tried TightVNC - no success
either. Because my server is still in its infancy of building things up,
until now I use the remote power switch for a reboot. That works OK but
luckily I have not yet Filemaker running there, I would not like to restart
it in such a way. I will definitely not use VNC in a 'production' setting
but probably will use pcAnywhere. I have not yet set it up but read about it
as being very good OK for connecting from Win to Mac. And it has encryption,
too.
Another option would be to get a second hand MacMini with Remote Desktop -
maybe that is safer/more stable/ encrypted ( I have no information on that).
If you are good at Linux/Unix, you could use Putty (from Windows, or e.g. a
smartphone, Symbian etc.) but of course that is strong stuff and needs very
good care / knowledge (which I don't have), and I guess it's useless in
controlling Filemaker remotely.
So please be warned.
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Re: Win Vista to Mac Server VNC question
am 24.12.2007 16:35:33 von Tom Stiller
In article <92cd1$476faf79$59dc4456$2129@news.speedlinq.nl>,
"Christoph Bouthillier" wrote:
> --
>
>
> "AL Lawrance" schreef in bericht
> news:8Ugbj.3270$vd4.1144@pd7urf1no...
> >I need some guidance on how to connect a WIN VISTA machine (at home) to a
> >MAC SERVER at work to do work on a Filemaker Pro database hosted by the
> >MAC server. The MAC server has a copy of Filemaker Pro installed on it.
> >
> > so .. if anyone provide me with information on how to achieve this ...
> > what VNC software to use that will allow a WIN Vista machine to "talk" to
> > a MAC machine.... and how to set it up would be greatly appreciated.
> >
> > Al Lawrance
>
> Hello Al,
>
> Just a few days ago I set up a XServe G4 with Leopard on it in a server
> farm. I switched on "remote" on the server, the VNC client (on my Win XP)
> has then indeed direct access.
>
> BUT... this is definitely not working well for me for the following reasons:
>
> VNC is basically non-encrypted - I don't like that.
VNV can be tunneled through SSH, supplying both encryption and closing
port 5900.
>
> UltraVNC e.g. does have an encryption plugin but I did not succeed so far in
> telling Leopard to 'understand' it.
>
> What's much worse, in about 30% of my connections, after some 'walking'
> remotely around in the Finder, not doing anything grave/bad/special, the VNC
> connection freezes. Leopard luckily keeps on running ((S)FTP-ing is still OK
> and HTML is still served allright) but there is *no way* to get into the
> server again via VNC in such a situation. I also tried TightVNC - no success
> either. Because my server is still in its infancy of building things up,
> until now I use the remote power switch for a reboot. That works OK but
> luckily I have not yet Filemaker running there, I would not like to restart
> it in such a way. I will definitely not use VNC in a 'production' setting
> but probably will use pcAnywhere. I have not yet set it up but read about it
> as being very good OK for connecting from Win to Mac. And it has encryption,
> too.
Which VNC server? I am using Vine Server 3.0 on an Intel Core 2 Duo
running Leopard 10.5.1 and have experienced no problems with extensive
operations on the remote computer. I have made connections between the
above mentioned iMac and various other machines, including LinuxPPC,
Ubuntu Mac OS X 10.4.11, and Mac OS X 10.3.9. Connections have been
established in both directions using SSH tunneling.
>
> Another option would be to get a second hand MacMini with Remote Desktop -
> maybe that is safer/more stable/ encrypted ( I have no information on that).
>
> If you are good at Linux/Unix, you could use Putty (from Windows, or e.g. a
> smartphone, Symbian etc.) but of course that is strong stuff and needs very
> good care / knowledge (which I don't have), and I guess it's useless in
> controlling Filemaker remotely.
>
> So please be warned.
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Tom Stiller
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Re: Win Vista to Mac Server VNC question
am 25.12.2007 22:22:36 von pmanet
Christoph Bouthillier wrote:
> VNC is basically non-encrypted - I don't like that.
You can use VNC through a SSH tunneling
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