looking for a CMS, any suggestion?

looking for a CMS, any suggestion?

am 30.12.2007 09:05:37 von Ming

I am looking for a PHP based CMS (or blog system) that supports:

1) static output (like Movable Type)
2) remote publishing through FTP, SFTP or SSH (like Blogger)
3) Different templates for different parts of the system (ie: category
template, main index template, search template, like Movable Type
does; Blogger seems to just have one template)
4) Free (or low price for multiple installations)
5) One central installation for multiple sites

Any suggestion?

Thanks!

Re: looking for a CMS, any suggestion?

am 30.12.2007 10:05:31 von Paul Lautman

Ming wrote:
> I am looking for a PHP based CMS (or blog system) that supports:
>
> 1) static output (like Movable Type)
> 2) remote publishing through FTP, SFTP or SSH (like Blogger)
> 3) Different templates for different parts of the system (ie: category
> template, main index template, search template, like Movable Type
> does; Blogger seems to just have one template)
> 4) Free (or low price for multiple installations)
> 5) One central installation for multiple sites
>
> Any suggestion?
>
> Thanks!

Mambo, Joomla, Typolight, ...

http://www.cmsmatrix.org/

http://www.cmsjournal.com/content.asp?ContentId=1152

Re: looking for a CMS, any suggestion?

am 30.12.2007 11:49:37 von twomt

Paul Lautman wrote:
> Ming wrote:
>> I am looking for a PHP based CMS (or blog system) that supports:
>>
>> 1) static output (like Movable Type)
>> 2) remote publishing through FTP, SFTP or SSH (like Blogger)
>> 3) Different templates for different parts of the system (ie: category
>> template, main index template, search template, like Movable Type
>> does; Blogger seems to just have one template)
>> 4) Free (or low price for multiple installations)
>> 5) One central installation for multiple sites
>>
>> Any suggestion?
>>
>> Thanks!
>
> Mambo, Joomla, Typolight, ...
>
> http://www.cmsmatrix.org/
>
> http://www.cmsjournal.com/content.asp?ContentId=1152
>
>

I like Joomla, very powerful tool.
Personally I think it is probably one of the best ones that come for
free. ;)

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Re: looking for a CMS, any suggestion?

am 30.12.2007 15:18:35 von Paul Lautman

"twomt" wrote in message
news:fl7t3r$ck2$2@aioe.org...
> Paul Lautman wrote:
> I like Joomla, very powerful tool.
> Personally I think it is probably one of the best ones that come for free.
> ;)
I guess I have to agree, since most of my income is from building custom
components for it!
But Typolight is also worth a look.

Re: looking for a CMS, any suggestion?

am 31.12.2007 02:24:36 von nc

On Dec 30, 12:05 am, Ming wrote:
>
> I am looking for a PHP based CMS (or blog system) that supports:
>
> 1) static output (like Movable Type)

You can stop looking right there. Static output has long since gone
out of fashion. Some Perl applications (MovableType, Discus, and a
few others) still use it only because they were initially designed
that way back when MySQL 3 wasn't around, so they stored their data in
flat files rather than databases. The rest of the world has moved on
to a combination of dynamic output and caching... Some systems (such
as Drupal) also have granular cache control (the administrator can
select which components' output it to be cached and which is to be
always generated dynamically) and throttling (certain components may
be designated as non-critical and not executed during peak-load
periods).

> 2) remote publishing through FTP, SFTP or SSH (like Blogger)

I may be wrong on this, but as far as I know, Blogger is the only
application that does it...

> 3) Different templates for different parts of the system (ie:
> category template, main index template, search template,
> like Movable Type does; Blogger seems to just have one
> template)
> 4) Free (or low price for multiple installations)
> 5) One central installation for multiple sites

WordPress MU seems to fit the bill on these...

Cheers,
NC

Re: looking for a CMS, any suggestion?

am 31.12.2007 02:57:30 von Ming

On Dec 30, 5:24 pm, NC wrote:
> On Dec 30, 12:05 am, Ming wrote:
>
>
>
> > I am looking for a PHP based CMS (or blog system) that supports:
>
> > 1) static output (like Movable Type)
>
> You can stop looking right there. Static output has long since gone
> out of fashion. Some Perl applications (MovableType, Discus, and a
> few others) still use it only because they were initially designed
> that way back when MySQL 3 wasn't around, so they stored their data in
> flat files rather than databases. The rest of the world has moved on
> to a combination of dynamic output and caching... Some systems (such
> as Drupal) also have granular cache control (the administrator can
> select which components' output it to be cached and which is to be
> always generated dynamically) and throttling (certain components may
> be designated as non-critical and not executed during peak-load
> periods).
>
> > 2) remote publishing through FTP, SFTP or SSH (like Blogger)
>
> I may be wrong on this, but as far as I know, Blogger is the only
> application that does it...
>
> > 3) Different templates for different parts of the system (ie:
> > category template, main index template, search template,
> > like Movable Type does; Blogger seems to just have one
> > template)
> > 4) Free (or low price for multiple installations)
> > 5) One central installation for multiple sites
>
> WordPress MU seems to fit the bill on these...
>
> Cheers,
> NC

Hi NC and all folks,

Thanks for suggestion.

Static output is critical for me because many users, college students,
do not have access to either PHP or MySQL in their college campus/
department personal webspace. Most universities only permit pure
static content (HTML, image, flash, etc) for student web space.

FTP/SFTP/SSH access is a MUST-HAVE feature. Since we want a central
installation that supports students from all departments.

Re: looking for a CMS, any suggestion?

am 31.12.2007 03:08:57 von Jerry Stuckle

Ming wrote:
> On Dec 30, 5:24 pm, NC wrote:
>> On Dec 30, 12:05 am, Ming wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> I am looking for a PHP based CMS (or blog system) that supports:
>>> 1) static output (like Movable Type)
>> You can stop looking right there. Static output has long since gone
>> out of fashion. Some Perl applications (MovableType, Discus, and a
>> few others) still use it only because they were initially designed
>> that way back when MySQL 3 wasn't around, so they stored their data in
>> flat files rather than databases. The rest of the world has moved on
>> to a combination of dynamic output and caching... Some systems (such
>> as Drupal) also have granular cache control (the administrator can
>> select which components' output it to be cached and which is to be
>> always generated dynamically) and throttling (certain components may
>> be designated as non-critical and not executed during peak-load
>> periods).
>>
>>> 2) remote publishing through FTP, SFTP or SSH (like Blogger)
>> I may be wrong on this, but as far as I know, Blogger is the only
>> application that does it...
>>
>>> 3) Different templates for different parts of the system (ie:
>>> category template, main index template, search template,
>>> like Movable Type does; Blogger seems to just have one
>>> template)
>>> 4) Free (or low price for multiple installations)
>>> 5) One central installation for multiple sites
>> WordPress MU seems to fit the bill on these...
>>
>> Cheers,
>> NC
>
> Hi NC and all folks,
>
> Thanks for suggestion.
>
> Static output is critical for me because many users, college students,
> do not have access to either PHP or MySQL in their college campus/
> department personal webspace. Most universities only permit pure
> static content (HTML, image, flash, etc) for student web space.
>
> FTP/SFTP/SSH access is a MUST-HAVE feature. Since we want a central
> installation that supports students from all departments.
>

You aren't going to find a CMS which doesn't depend on dynamic content.
That isn't how they work.

If you want static output, have them use ftp/sftp, etc.

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Re: looking for a CMS, any suggestion?

am 31.12.2007 07:31:59 von Ming

On Dec 30, 6:08 pm, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
> Ming wrote:
> > On Dec 30, 5:24 pm, NC wrote:
> >> On Dec 30, 12:05 am, Ming wrote:
>
> >>> I am looking for a PHP based CMS (or blog system) that supports:
> >>> 1) static output (like Movable Type)
> >> You can stop looking right there. Static output has long since gone
> >> out of fashion. Some Perl applications (MovableType, Discus, and a
> >> few others) still use it only because they were initially designed
> >> that way back when MySQL 3 wasn't around, so they stored their data in
> >> flat files rather than databases. The rest of the world has moved on
> >> to a combination of dynamic output and caching... Some systems (such
> >> as Drupal) also have granular cache control (the administrator can
> >> select which components' output it to be cached and which is to be
> >> always generated dynamically) and throttling (certain components may
> >> be designated as non-critical and not executed during peak-load
> >> periods).
>
> >>> 2) remote publishing through FTP, SFTP or SSH (like Blogger)
> >> I may be wrong on this, but as far as I know, Blogger is the only
> >> application that does it...
>
> >>> 3) Different templates for different parts of the system (ie:
> >>> category template, main index template, search template,
> >>> like Movable Type does; Blogger seems to just have one
> >>> template)
> >>> 4) Free (or low price for multiple installations)
> >>> 5) One central installation for multiple sites
> >> WordPress MU seems to fit the bill on these...
>
> >> Cheers,
> >> NC
>
> > Hi NC and all folks,
>
> > Thanks for suggestion.
>
> > Static output is critical for me because many users, college students,
> > do not have access to either PHP or MySQL in their college campus/
> > department personal webspace. Most universities only permit pure
> > static content (HTML, image, flash, etc) for student web space.
>
> > FTP/SFTP/SSH access is a MUST-HAVE feature. Since we want a central
> > installation that supports students from all departments.
>
> You aren't going to find a CMS which doesn't depend on dynamic content.
> That isn't how they work.
>
> If you want static output, have them use ftp/sftp, etc.
>
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Sure. But the DB shall only be used in generating content,ideally.

Re: looking for a CMS, any suggestion?

am 31.12.2007 14:29:31 von Jerry Stuckle

Ming wrote:
> On Dec 30, 6:08 pm, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>> Ming wrote:
>>> On Dec 30, 5:24 pm, NC wrote:
>>>> On Dec 30, 12:05 am, Ming wrote:
>>>>> I am looking for a PHP based CMS (or blog system) that supports:
>>>>> 1) static output (like Movable Type)
>>>> You can stop looking right there. Static output has long since gone
>>>> out of fashion. Some Perl applications (MovableType, Discus, and a
>>>> few others) still use it only because they were initially designed
>>>> that way back when MySQL 3 wasn't around, so they stored their data in
>>>> flat files rather than databases. The rest of the world has moved on
>>>> to a combination of dynamic output and caching... Some systems (such
>>>> as Drupal) also have granular cache control (the administrator can
>>>> select which components' output it to be cached and which is to be
>>>> always generated dynamically) and throttling (certain components may
>>>> be designated as non-critical and not executed during peak-load
>>>> periods).
>>>>> 2) remote publishing through FTP, SFTP or SSH (like Blogger)
>>>> I may be wrong on this, but as far as I know, Blogger is the only
>>>> application that does it...
>>>>> 3) Different templates for different parts of the system (ie:
>>>>> category template, main index template, search template,
>>>>> like Movable Type does; Blogger seems to just have one
>>>>> template)
>>>>> 4) Free (or low price for multiple installations)
>>>>> 5) One central installation for multiple sites
>>>> WordPress MU seems to fit the bill on these...
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> NC
>>> Hi NC and all folks,
>>> Thanks for suggestion.
>>> Static output is critical for me because many users, college students,
>>> do not have access to either PHP or MySQL in their college campus/
>>> department personal webspace. Most universities only permit pure
>>> static content (HTML, image, flash, etc) for student web space.
>>> FTP/SFTP/SSH access is a MUST-HAVE feature. Since we want a central
>>> installation that supports students from all departments.
>> You aren't going to find a CMS which doesn't depend on dynamic content.
>> That isn't how they work.
>>
>> If you want static output, have them use ftp/sftp, etc.
>>
>
> Sure. But the DB shall only be used in generating content,ideally.
>

Read my post again.

If you want something different, you need to write it yourself.

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Re: looking for a CMS, any suggestion?

am 01.01.2008 01:12:23 von nc

On Dec 30, 5:57 pm, Ming wrote:
>
> Static output is critical for me because many users, college students,
> do not have access to either PHP or MySQL in their college campus/
> department personal webspace. Most universities only permit pure
> static content (HTML, image, flash, etc) for student web space.
>
> FTP/SFTP/SSH access is a MUST-HAVE feature. Since we want a central
> installation that supports students from all departments.

I think you need to think outside the box on this one... Who says
blogs have to reside on the same physical machine(s) with the
students' Web space? At Harvard, for example, blogging is completely
independent from the rest of the students' and faculty's Web
presence. So much so that Harvard's installation of WordPress MU is
run out of the law school for the benefit of the entire university:

http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/

Anyone with a harvard.edu, radcliffe.edu, or hbs.edu e-mail address
(which includes students, faculty, staff, and alumni) can sign up; the
blogging server operates independently from other systems and does not
share authentication information with any other systems.

Cheers,
NC