Re: 10 Reasons Why PHP is Better than ASP

Re: 10 Reasons Why PHP is Better than ASP

am 16.01.2008 19:31:26 von Steve

"Ali Bobo" <1001webs@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:3b0a3c54-0c8a-4465-9e33-566f84ecd966@v4g2000hsf.googleg roups.com...
> 1. PHP.NET the greatest API resource known to MAN

completely relative statement. i can safely assume you've not experienced
*all* api's known to man!

> 2. If you have a problem, someone will have already implemented a
> solution in PHP for you

and this is in contrast to the support and examples/solutions afforded asp?
think again.

> 3. Syntax is better, closer to C, C++, and Java. Unlike VB where
> anything goes.

uhhhh, php is just as loose as asp - which is *vb script* NOT VB. asp.net,
however, is more OOP capable than php AND forces strong data-typing. troll.

as for which stylistic preference you have in writing code, who gives a
fuck?!!!

> 4. To run ASP you need IIS on windows, which is not free, for PHP
> however you need Linux and Apache which are FREE!!

sorry, wrong again! i can run asp on linux boxes running apache. that
technology is at least 8 years old, idiot.

> 5. Great built in support for ftp, email, graphics package GD2 and
> also MySQL (also FREE).

and, asp has *greater* built in support for these and more. last time i
checked, ms was giving asp.net AND a world-class IDE for it's development
away...i.e. FREE.

next dumbass remark?

> 6. PHP will run on Unix, Linux, Solaris and Windows. ASP is mainly
> only Windows associated but you can use it on linux with additional
> modules installed.

which completely bastardizes your statement number 4...along with mooting
itself in the process. are you that brain-dead?

> 7. PHP code is much faster, ASP is developed on the COM based
> architecture, this is an overhead for the server.

and what version of asp are you talking about? the one from 8 years ago? asp
as of right now can backwardly support com. it's architecture is completely
OOP based and everything runs from a NON-COM based framework. asp performs
equally in speed to php and in a lot of cases, outperforms it. one of the
benefits of a company that creates a web language and also providing the os
on which it will run, the functionality is built into the kernel itself.

> 8. mod_rewrite, need I say more.

the answer is, you need to say something that applies. mod_rewrite is
apache, not php. as i can run asp via apache, your point is moot...again!

> 9. Advanced Perl-compatible regular expression functions and loads
> of built in support for regular expressions on the whole.

funny how think, or imply, that asp and regex are strangers to eachother.
specifically, if i develop a vb < .net application, i have to reference the
*scripting* library (you know, the web version of vb) in order to use regex.
asp has *always* supported regex...vb.net is the first time regex was
directly supported, without COM, in vb. geee, why would that be? because NO
NEW LANGUAGES BY MS HAVE A COM ARCHITECTURES.

> 10. Greater control over error handling, and more detailed error
> messages.

last i checked, try/catch/finally was introduced to asp around the same time
it was supported in php. and, since it's the same construct, how do you
suppose php has greater control. further, both php and asp allow you to
generate customer error messages. as for the defined errors, i can only
laugh. leave out a semi-colon in php, run the page in the browser and tell
me exactly what the error means...not to mention WHERE the *actual* error
is. ROFLMFAO !!!

and, btw, when could you ever seemlessly integrate external resources (not
just modules) into php. oh shit! you mean you had to use COM(). lol. in asp,
if an api exists, i can consume it.

how easy is it to set up php for debugging?

can you use vb, c#, c, c++, or any one of 23 others to develop a php
solution?

can you switch, in code, mid-stream to from one language to another?

if you have no clue as to the technology against which you are making
comparisons, how the fuck can you expect to be taken seriously?!!! further,
how can you ever expect to pick the right tool for the job...which is
COMPLETELY what makes one better than the other! it's all relative to
changing factors that you don't even consider, troll.

Re: 10 Reasons Why PHP is Better than ASP

am 17.01.2008 14:37:48 von Jerry Stuckle

Ali Bobo wrote:
> On Jan 16, 7:31 pm, "Steve" wrote:
>> "Ali Bobo" <1001w...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:3b0a3c54-0c8a-4465-9e33-566f84ecd966@v4g2000hsf.googleg roups.com...
>>
>>> 1. PHP.NET the greatest API resource known to MAN
>> completely relative statement. i can safely assume you've not experienced
>> *all* api's known to man!
>>
>>> 2. If you have a problem, someone will have already implemented a
>>> solution in PHP for you
>> and this is in contrast to the support and examples/solutions afforded asp?
>> think again.
>>
>>> 3. Syntax is better, closer to C, C++, and Java. Unlike VB where
>>> anything goes.
>> uhhhh, php is just as loose as asp - which is *vb script* NOT VB. asp.net,
>> however, is more OOP capable than php AND forces strong data-typing. troll.
>>
>> as for which stylistic preference you have in writing code, who gives a
>> fuck?!!!
>>
>>> 4. To run ASP you need IIS on windows, which is not free, for PHP
>>> however you need Linux and Apache which are FREE!!
>> sorry, wrong again! i can run asp on linux boxes running apache. that
>> technology is at least 8 years old, idiot.
>>
>>> 5. Great built in support for ftp, email, graphics package GD2 and
>>> also MySQL (also FREE).
>> and, asp has *greater* built in support for these and more. last time i
>> checked, ms was giving asp.net AND a world-class IDE for it's development
>> away...i.e. FREE.
>>
>> next dumbass remark?
>>
>>> 6. PHP will run on Unix, Linux, Solaris and Windows. ASP is mainly
>>> only Windows associated but you can use it on linux with additional
>>> modules installed.
>> which completely bastardizes your statement number 4...along with mooting
>> itself in the process. are you that brain-dead?
>>
>>> 7. PHP code is much faster, ASP is developed on the COM based
>>> architecture, this is an overhead for the server.
>> and what version of asp are you talking about? the one from 8 years ago? asp
>> as of right now can backwardly support com. it's architecture is completely
>> OOP based and everything runs from a NON-COM based framework. asp performs
>> equally in speed to php and in a lot of cases, outperforms it. one of the
>> benefits of a company that creates a web language and also providing the os
>> on which it will run, the functionality is built into the kernel itself.
>>
>>> 8. mod_rewrite, need I say more.
>> the answer is, you need to say something that applies. mod_rewrite is
>> apache, not php. as i can run asp via apache, your point is moot...again!
>>
>>> 9. Advanced Perl-compatible regular expression functions and loads
>>> of built in support for regular expressions on the whole.
>> funny how think, or imply, that asp and regex are strangers to eachother.
>> specifically, if i develop a vb < .net application, i have to reference the
>> *scripting* library (you know, the web version of vb) in order to use regex.
>> asp has *always* supported regex...vb.net is the first time regex was
>> directly supported, without COM, in vb. geee, why would that be? because NO
>> NEW LANGUAGES BY MS HAVE A COM ARCHITECTURES.
>>
>>> 10. Greater control over error handling, and more detailed error
>>> messages.
>> last i checked, try/catch/finally was introduced to asp around the same time
>> it was supported in php. and, since it's the same construct, how do you
>> suppose php has greater control. further, both php and asp allow you to
>> generate customer error messages. as for the defined errors, i can only
>> laugh. leave out a semi-colon in php, run the page in the browser and tell
>> me exactly what the error means...not to mention WHERE the *actual* error
>> is. ROFLMFAO !!!
>>
>> and, btw, when could you ever seemlessly integrate external resources (not
>> just modules) into php. oh shit! you mean you had to use COM(). lol. in asp,
>> if an api exists, i can consume it.
>>
>> how easy is it to set up php for debugging?
>>
>> can you use vb, c#, c, c++, or any one of 23 others to develop a php
>> solution?
>>
>> can you switch, in code, mid-stream to from one language to another?
>>
>> if you have no clue as to the technology against which you are making
>> comparisons, how the fuck can you expect to be taken seriously?!!! further,
>> how can you ever expect to pick the right tool for the job...which is
>> COMPLETELY what makes one better than the other! it's all relative to
>> changing factors that you don't even consider, troll.
>
> I just copy&pasted it, from the link at the bottom.
> You are quite right and I thank you for your valuable opinion.
> I have several friends that have opted for ASP over PHP and I wanted
> to understand the reasons.
>
> Just two more questions:
> 1- Do you actually prefer ASP to PHP?
> 2- A bit off-topic but, What do you make of this statement?:
> The paragraphs below describes W3Schools' vision about future
> Internet Distributed Applications:
> "Executables, C++ (and Java too) must die
> Neither C++ nor Java can ever create standard components that can run
> on all computers. There is no room for these languages in future
> distributed applications. Executables are not standard. COM objects
> are not standard, DLL-files are not standard. Registry settings are
> not standard. INI-files are not standard. None of these components
> must be allowed to destroy your dream of a standard distributed
> application that will run on almost any computer in the world."
> http://www.w3schools.com/ngws/ngws_standards.asp
>

All of this are the opinions of one or two people who put together a web
site. Nothing more, nothing less. It is worth exactly what you paid
for it.

Of course not everything's standard. That's because different people
have different needs. And it will always remain that way.

--
==================
Remove the "x" from my email address
Jerry Stuckle
JDS Computer Training Corp.
jstucklex@attglobal.net
==================

Re: 10 Reasons Why PHP is Better than ASP

am 17.01.2008 14:37:48 von Jerry Stuckle

Ali Bobo wrote:
> On Jan 16, 7:31 pm, "Steve" wrote:
>> "Ali Bobo" <1001w...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:3b0a3c54-0c8a-4465-9e33-566f84ecd966@v4g2000hsf.googleg roups.com...
>>
>>> 1. PHP.NET the greatest API resource known to MAN
>> completely relative statement. i can safely assume you've not experienced
>> *all* api's known to man!
>>
>>> 2. If you have a problem, someone will have already implemented a
>>> solution in PHP for you
>> and this is in contrast to the support and examples/solutions afforded asp?
>> think again.
>>
>>> 3. Syntax is better, closer to C, C++, and Java. Unlike VB where
>>> anything goes.
>> uhhhh, php is just as loose as asp - which is *vb script* NOT VB. asp.net,
>> however, is more OOP capable than php AND forces strong data-typing. troll.
>>
>> as for which stylistic preference you have in writing code, who gives a
>> fuck?!!!
>>
>>> 4. To run ASP you need IIS on windows, which is not free, for PHP
>>> however you need Linux and Apache which are FREE!!
>> sorry, wrong again! i can run asp on linux boxes running apache. that
>> technology is at least 8 years old, idiot.
>>
>>> 5. Great built in support for ftp, email, graphics package GD2 and
>>> also MySQL (also FREE).
>> and, asp has *greater* built in support for these and more. last time i
>> checked, ms was giving asp.net AND a world-class IDE for it's development
>> away...i.e. FREE.
>>
>> next dumbass remark?
>>
>>> 6. PHP will run on Unix, Linux, Solaris and Windows. ASP is mainly
>>> only Windows associated but you can use it on linux with additional
>>> modules installed.
>> which completely bastardizes your statement number 4...along with mooting
>> itself in the process. are you that brain-dead?
>>
>>> 7. PHP code is much faster, ASP is developed on the COM based
>>> architecture, this is an overhead for the server.
>> and what version of asp are you talking about? the one from 8 years ago? asp
>> as of right now can backwardly support com. it's architecture is completely
>> OOP based and everything runs from a NON-COM based framework. asp performs
>> equally in speed to php and in a lot of cases, outperforms it. one of the
>> benefits of a company that creates a web language and also providing the os
>> on which it will run, the functionality is built into the kernel itself.
>>
>>> 8. mod_rewrite, need I say more.
>> the answer is, you need to say something that applies. mod_rewrite is
>> apache, not php. as i can run asp via apache, your point is moot...again!
>>
>>> 9. Advanced Perl-compatible regular expression functions and loads
>>> of built in support for regular expressions on the whole.
>> funny how think, or imply, that asp and regex are strangers to eachother.
>> specifically, if i develop a vb < .net application, i have to reference the
>> *scripting* library (you know, the web version of vb) in order to use regex.
>> asp has *always* supported regex...vb.net is the first time regex was
>> directly supported, without COM, in vb. geee, why would that be? because NO
>> NEW LANGUAGES BY MS HAVE A COM ARCHITECTURES.
>>
>>> 10. Greater control over error handling, and more detailed error
>>> messages.
>> last i checked, try/catch/finally was introduced to asp around the same time
>> it was supported in php. and, since it's the same construct, how do you
>> suppose php has greater control. further, both php and asp allow you to
>> generate customer error messages. as for the defined errors, i can only
>> laugh. leave out a semi-colon in php, run the page in the browser and tell
>> me exactly what the error means...not to mention WHERE the *actual* error
>> is. ROFLMFAO !!!
>>
>> and, btw, when could you ever seemlessly integrate external resources (not
>> just modules) into php. oh shit! you mean you had to use COM(). lol. in asp,
>> if an api exists, i can consume it.
>>
>> how easy is it to set up php for debugging?
>>
>> can you use vb, c#, c, c++, or any one of 23 others to develop a php
>> solution?
>>
>> can you switch, in code, mid-stream to from one language to another?
>>
>> if you have no clue as to the technology against which you are making
>> comparisons, how the fuck can you expect to be taken seriously?!!! further,
>> how can you ever expect to pick the right tool for the job...which is
>> COMPLETELY what makes one better than the other! it's all relative to
>> changing factors that you don't even consider, troll.
>
> I just copy&pasted it, from the link at the bottom.
> You are quite right and I thank you for your valuable opinion.
> I have several friends that have opted for ASP over PHP and I wanted
> to understand the reasons.
>
> Just two more questions:
> 1- Do you actually prefer ASP to PHP?
> 2- A bit off-topic but, What do you make of this statement?:
> The paragraphs below describes W3Schools' vision about future
> Internet Distributed Applications:
> "Executables, C++ (and Java too) must die
> Neither C++ nor Java can ever create standard components that can run
> on all computers. There is no room for these languages in future
> distributed applications. Executables are not standard. COM objects
> are not standard, DLL-files are not standard. Registry settings are
> not standard. INI-files are not standard. None of these components
> must be allowed to destroy your dream of a standard distributed
> application that will run on almost any computer in the world."
> http://www.w3schools.com/ngws/ngws_standards.asp
>

All of this are the opinions of one or two people who put together a web
site. Nothing more, nothing less. It is worth exactly what you paid
for it.

Of course not everything's standard. That's because different people
have different needs. And it will always remain that way.

--
==================
Remove the "x" from my email address
Jerry Stuckle
JDS Computer Training Corp.
jstucklex@attglobal.net
==================

Re: 10 Reasons Why PHP is Better than ASP

am 17.01.2008 17:21:10 von Adam Frame

Steve wrote:
> "Ali Bobo" <1001webs@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:3b0a3c54-0c8a-4465-9e33-566f84ecd966@v4g2000hsf.googleg roups.com...
>> 1. PHP.NET the greatest API resource known to MAN
>
> completely relative statement. i can safely assume you've not experienced
> *all* api's known to man!
>
>> 2. If you have a problem, someone will have already implemented a
>> solution in PHP for you
>
> and this is in contrast to the support and examples/solutions afforded asp?
> think again.
>
>> 3. Syntax is better, closer to C, C++, and Java. Unlike VB where
>> anything goes.
>
> uhhhh, php is just as loose as asp - which is *vb script* NOT VB. asp.net,
> however, is more OOP capable than php AND forces strong data-typing. troll.
>
> as for which stylistic preference you have in writing code, who gives a
> fuck?!!!
>
>> 4. To run ASP you need IIS on windows, which is not free, for PHP
>> however you need Linux and Apache which are FREE!!
>
> sorry, wrong again! i can run asp on linux boxes running apache. that
> technology is at least 8 years old, idiot.
>
>> 5. Great built in support for ftp, email, graphics package GD2 and
>> also MySQL (also FREE).
>
> and, asp has *greater* built in support for these and more. last time i
> checked, ms was giving asp.net AND a world-class IDE for it's development
> away...i.e. FREE.
>
> next dumbass remark?
>
>> 6. PHP will run on Unix, Linux, Solaris and Windows. ASP is mainly
>> only Windows associated but you can use it on linux with additional
>> modules installed.
>
> which completely bastardizes your statement number 4...along with mooting
> itself in the process. are you that brain-dead?
>
>> 7. PHP code is much faster, ASP is developed on the COM based
>> architecture, this is an overhead for the server.
>
> and what version of asp are you talking about? the one from 8 years ago? asp
> as of right now can backwardly support com. it's architecture is completely
> OOP based and everything runs from a NON-COM based framework. asp performs
> equally in speed to php and in a lot of cases, outperforms it. one of the
> benefits of a company that creates a web language and also providing the os
> on which it will run, the functionality is built into the kernel itself.
>
>> 8. mod_rewrite, need I say more.
>
> the answer is, you need to say something that applies. mod_rewrite is
> apache, not php. as i can run asp via apache, your point is moot...again!
>
>> 9. Advanced Perl-compatible regular expression functions and loads
>> of built in support for regular expressions on the whole.
>
> funny how think, or imply, that asp and regex are strangers to eachother.
> specifically, if i develop a vb < .net application, i have to reference the
> *scripting* library (you know, the web version of vb) in order to use regex.
> asp has *always* supported regex...vb.net is the first time regex was
> directly supported, without COM, in vb. geee, why would that be? because NO
> NEW LANGUAGES BY MS HAVE A COM ARCHITECTURES.
>
>> 10. Greater control over error handling, and more detailed error
>> messages.
>
> last i checked, try/catch/finally was introduced to asp around the same time
> it was supported in php. and, since it's the same construct, how do you
> suppose php has greater control. further, both php and asp allow you to
> generate customer error messages. as for the defined errors, i can only
> laugh. leave out a semi-colon in php, run the page in the browser and tell
> me exactly what the error means...not to mention WHERE the *actual* error
> is. ROFLMFAO !!!
>
> and, btw, when could you ever seemlessly integrate external resources (not
> just modules) into php. oh shit! you mean you had to use COM(). lol. in asp,
> if an api exists, i can consume it.
>
> how easy is it to set up php for debugging?
>
> can you use vb, c#, c, c++, or any one of 23 others to develop a php
> solution?
>
> can you switch, in code, mid-stream to from one language to another?
>
> if you have no clue as to the technology against which you are making
> comparisons, how the fuck can you expect to be taken seriously?!!! further,
> how can you ever expect to pick the right tool for the job...which is
> COMPLETELY what makes one better than the other! it's all relative to
> changing factors that you don't even consider, troll.
>
>
>

Do you get a kick out of insulting people on the internet? You, sir are
in need of a mouthwash with a bar of soap. If you cannot contribute to a
civilized discussion without swearing and insults then don't contribute
at all.

Re: 10 Reasons Why PHP is Better than ASP

am 17.01.2008 17:21:10 von Adam Frame

Steve wrote:
> "Ali Bobo" <1001webs@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:3b0a3c54-0c8a-4465-9e33-566f84ecd966@v4g2000hsf.googleg roups.com...
>> 1. PHP.NET the greatest API resource known to MAN
>
> completely relative statement. i can safely assume you've not experienced
> *all* api's known to man!
>
>> 2. If you have a problem, someone will have already implemented a
>> solution in PHP for you
>
> and this is in contrast to the support and examples/solutions afforded asp?
> think again.
>
>> 3. Syntax is better, closer to C, C++, and Java. Unlike VB where
>> anything goes.
>
> uhhhh, php is just as loose as asp - which is *vb script* NOT VB. asp.net,
> however, is more OOP capable than php AND forces strong data-typing. troll.
>
> as for which stylistic preference you have in writing code, who gives a
> fuck?!!!
>
>> 4. To run ASP you need IIS on windows, which is not free, for PHP
>> however you need Linux and Apache which are FREE!!
>
> sorry, wrong again! i can run asp on linux boxes running apache. that
> technology is at least 8 years old, idiot.
>
>> 5. Great built in support for ftp, email, graphics package GD2 and
>> also MySQL (also FREE).
>
> and, asp has *greater* built in support for these and more. last time i
> checked, ms was giving asp.net AND a world-class IDE for it's development
> away...i.e. FREE.
>
> next dumbass remark?
>
>> 6. PHP will run on Unix, Linux, Solaris and Windows. ASP is mainly
>> only Windows associated but you can use it on linux with additional
>> modules installed.
>
> which completely bastardizes your statement number 4...along with mooting
> itself in the process. are you that brain-dead?
>
>> 7. PHP code is much faster, ASP is developed on the COM based
>> architecture, this is an overhead for the server.
>
> and what version of asp are you talking about? the one from 8 years ago? asp
> as of right now can backwardly support com. it's architecture is completely
> OOP based and everything runs from a NON-COM based framework. asp performs
> equally in speed to php and in a lot of cases, outperforms it. one of the
> benefits of a company that creates a web language and also providing the os
> on which it will run, the functionality is built into the kernel itself.
>
>> 8. mod_rewrite, need I say more.
>
> the answer is, you need to say something that applies. mod_rewrite is
> apache, not php. as i can run asp via apache, your point is moot...again!
>
>> 9. Advanced Perl-compatible regular expression functions and loads
>> of built in support for regular expressions on the whole.
>
> funny how think, or imply, that asp and regex are strangers to eachother.
> specifically, if i develop a vb < .net application, i have to reference the
> *scripting* library (you know, the web version of vb) in order to use regex.
> asp has *always* supported regex...vb.net is the first time regex was
> directly supported, without COM, in vb. geee, why would that be? because NO
> NEW LANGUAGES BY MS HAVE A COM ARCHITECTURES.
>
>> 10. Greater control over error handling, and more detailed error
>> messages.
>
> last i checked, try/catch/finally was introduced to asp around the same time
> it was supported in php. and, since it's the same construct, how do you
> suppose php has greater control. further, both php and asp allow you to
> generate customer error messages. as for the defined errors, i can only
> laugh. leave out a semi-colon in php, run the page in the browser and tell
> me exactly what the error means...not to mention WHERE the *actual* error
> is. ROFLMFAO !!!
>
> and, btw, when could you ever seemlessly integrate external resources (not
> just modules) into php. oh shit! you mean you had to use COM(). lol. in asp,
> if an api exists, i can consume it.
>
> how easy is it to set up php for debugging?
>
> can you use vb, c#, c, c++, or any one of 23 others to develop a php
> solution?
>
> can you switch, in code, mid-stream to from one language to another?
>
> if you have no clue as to the technology against which you are making
> comparisons, how the fuck can you expect to be taken seriously?!!! further,
> how can you ever expect to pick the right tool for the job...which is
> COMPLETELY what makes one better than the other! it's all relative to
> changing factors that you don't even consider, troll.
>
>
>

Do you get a kick out of insulting people on the internet? You, sir are
in need of a mouthwash with a bar of soap. If you cannot contribute to a
civilized discussion without swearing and insults then don't contribute
at all.

Re: 10 Reasons Why PHP is Better than ASP

am 17.01.2008 17:21:10 von Adam Frame

Steve wrote:
> "Ali Bobo" <1001webs@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:3b0a3c54-0c8a-4465-9e33-566f84ecd966@v4g2000hsf.googleg roups.com...
>> 1. PHP.NET the greatest API resource known to MAN
>
> completely relative statement. i can safely assume you've not experienced
> *all* api's known to man!
>
>> 2. If you have a problem, someone will have already implemented a
>> solution in PHP for you
>
> and this is in contrast to the support and examples/solutions afforded asp?
> think again.
>
>> 3. Syntax is better, closer to C, C++, and Java. Unlike VB where
>> anything goes.
>
> uhhhh, php is just as loose as asp - which is *vb script* NOT VB. asp.net,
> however, is more OOP capable than php AND forces strong data-typing. troll.
>
> as for which stylistic preference you have in writing code, who gives a
> fuck?!!!
>
>> 4. To run ASP you need IIS on windows, which is not free, for PHP
>> however you need Linux and Apache which are FREE!!
>
> sorry, wrong again! i can run asp on linux boxes running apache. that
> technology is at least 8 years old, idiot.
>
>> 5. Great built in support for ftp, email, graphics package GD2 and
>> also MySQL (also FREE).
>
> and, asp has *greater* built in support for these and more. last time i
> checked, ms was giving asp.net AND a world-class IDE for it's development
> away...i.e. FREE.
>
> next dumbass remark?
>
>> 6. PHP will run on Unix, Linux, Solaris and Windows. ASP is mainly
>> only Windows associated but you can use it on linux with additional
>> modules installed.
>
> which completely bastardizes your statement number 4...along with mooting
> itself in the process. are you that brain-dead?
>
>> 7. PHP code is much faster, ASP is developed on the COM based
>> architecture, this is an overhead for the server.
>
> and what version of asp are you talking about? the one from 8 years ago? asp
> as of right now can backwardly support com. it's architecture is completely
> OOP based and everything runs from a NON-COM based framework. asp performs
> equally in speed to php and in a lot of cases, outperforms it. one of the
> benefits of a company that creates a web language and also providing the os
> on which it will run, the functionality is built into the kernel itself.
>
>> 8. mod_rewrite, need I say more.
>
> the answer is, you need to say something that applies. mod_rewrite is
> apache, not php. as i can run asp via apache, your point is moot...again!
>
>> 9. Advanced Perl-compatible regular expression functions and loads
>> of built in support for regular expressions on the whole.
>
> funny how think, or imply, that asp and regex are strangers to eachother.
> specifically, if i develop a vb < .net application, i have to reference the
> *scripting* library (you know, the web version of vb) in order to use regex.
> asp has *always* supported regex...vb.net is the first time regex was
> directly supported, without COM, in vb. geee, why would that be? because NO
> NEW LANGUAGES BY MS HAVE A COM ARCHITECTURES.
>
>> 10. Greater control over error handling, and more detailed error
>> messages.
>
> last i checked, try/catch/finally was introduced to asp around the same time
> it was supported in php. and, since it's the same construct, how do you
> suppose php has greater control. further, both php and asp allow you to
> generate customer error messages. as for the defined errors, i can only
> laugh. leave out a semi-colon in php, run the page in the browser and tell
> me exactly what the error means...not to mention WHERE the *actual* error
> is. ROFLMFAO !!!
>
> and, btw, when could you ever seemlessly integrate external resources (not
> just modules) into php. oh shit! you mean you had to use COM(). lol. in asp,
> if an api exists, i can consume it.
>
> how easy is it to set up php for debugging?
>
> can you use vb, c#, c, c++, or any one of 23 others to develop a php
> solution?
>
> can you switch, in code, mid-stream to from one language to another?
>
> if you have no clue as to the technology against which you are making
> comparisons, how the fuck can you expect to be taken seriously?!!! further,
> how can you ever expect to pick the right tool for the job...which is
> COMPLETELY what makes one better than the other! it's all relative to
> changing factors that you don't even consider, troll.
>
>
>

Do you get a kick out of insulting people on the internet? You, sir are
in need of a mouthwash with a bar of soap. If you cannot contribute to a
civilized discussion without swearing and insults then don't contribute
at all.

Re: 10 Reasons Why PHP is Better than ASP

am 17.01.2008 17:40:18 von Courtney

Jerry Stuckle wrote:
> Ali Bobo wrote:
>> On Jan 16, 7:31 pm, "Steve" wrote:
>>> "Ali Bobo" <1001w...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>
>>> news:3b0a3c54-0c8a-4465-9e33-566f84ecd966@v4g2000hsf.googleg roups.com...
>>>
>>>> 1. PHP.NET the greatest API resource known to MAN
>>> completely relative statement. i can safely assume you've not
>>> experienced
>>> *all* api's known to man!
>>>
>>>> 2. If you have a problem, someone will have already implemented a
>>>> solution in PHP for you
>>> and this is in contrast to the support and examples/solutions
>>> afforded asp?
>>> think again.
>>>
>>>> 3. Syntax is better, closer to C, C++, and Java. Unlike VB where
>>>> anything goes.
>>> uhhhh, php is just as loose as asp - which is *vb script* NOT VB.
>>> asp.net,
>>> however, is more OOP capable than php AND forces strong data-typing.
>>> troll.
>>>
>>> as for which stylistic preference you have in writing code, who gives a
>>> fuck?!!!
>>>
>>>> 4. To run ASP you need IIS on windows, which is not free, for PHP
>>>> however you need Linux and Apache which are FREE!!
>>> sorry, wrong again! i can run asp on linux boxes running apache. that
>>> technology is at least 8 years old, idiot.
>>>
>>>> 5. Great built in support for ftp, email, graphics package GD2 and
>>>> also MySQL (also FREE).
>>> and, asp has *greater* built in support for these and more. last time i
>>> checked, ms was giving asp.net AND a world-class IDE for it's
>>> development
>>> away...i.e. FREE.
>>>
>>> next dumbass remark?
>>>
>>>> 6. PHP will run on Unix, Linux, Solaris and Windows. ASP is mainly
>>>> only Windows associated but you can use it on linux with additional
>>>> modules installed.
>>> which completely bastardizes your statement number 4...along with
>>> mooting
>>> itself in the process. are you that brain-dead?
>>>
>>>> 7. PHP code is much faster, ASP is developed on the COM based
>>>> architecture, this is an overhead for the server.
>>> and what version of asp are you talking about? the one from 8 years
>>> ago? asp
>>> as of right now can backwardly support com. it's architecture is
>>> completely
>>> OOP based and everything runs from a NON-COM based framework. asp
>>> performs
>>> equally in speed to php and in a lot of cases, outperforms it. one of
>>> the
>>> benefits of a company that creates a web language and also providing
>>> the os
>>> on which it will run, the functionality is built into the kernel itself.
>>>
>>>> 8. mod_rewrite, need I say more.
>>> the answer is, you need to say something that applies. mod_rewrite is
>>> apache, not php. as i can run asp via apache, your point is
>>> moot...again!
>>>
>>>> 9. Advanced Perl-compatible regular expression functions and loads
>>>> of built in support for regular expressions on the whole.
>>> funny how think, or imply, that asp and regex are strangers to
>>> eachother.
>>> specifically, if i develop a vb < .net application, i have to
>>> reference the
>>> *scripting* library (you know, the web version of vb) in order to use
>>> regex.
>>> asp has *always* supported regex...vb.net is the first time regex was
>>> directly supported, without COM, in vb. geee, why would that be?
>>> because NO
>>> NEW LANGUAGES BY MS HAVE A COM ARCHITECTURES.
>>>
>>>> 10. Greater control over error handling, and more detailed error
>>>> messages.
>>> last i checked, try/catch/finally was introduced to asp around the
>>> same time
>>> it was supported in php. and, since it's the same construct, how do you
>>> suppose php has greater control. further, both php and asp allow you to
>>> generate customer error messages. as for the defined errors, i can only
>>> laugh. leave out a semi-colon in php, run the page in the browser and
>>> tell
>>> me exactly what the error means...not to mention WHERE the *actual*
>>> error
>>> is. ROFLMFAO !!!
>>>
>>> and, btw, when could you ever seemlessly integrate external resources
>>> (not
>>> just modules) into php. oh shit! you mean you had to use COM(). lol.
>>> in asp,
>>> if an api exists, i can consume it.
>>>
>>> how easy is it to set up php for debugging?
>>>
>>> can you use vb, c#, c, c++, or any one of 23 others to develop a php
>>> solution?
>>>
>>> can you switch, in code, mid-stream to from one language to another?
>>>
>>> if you have no clue as to the technology against which you are making
>>> comparisons, how the fuck can you expect to be taken seriously?!!!
>>> further,
>>> how can you ever expect to pick the right tool for the job...which is
>>> COMPLETELY what makes one better than the other! it's all relative to
>>> changing factors that you don't even consider, troll.
>>
>> I just copy&pasted it, from the link at the bottom.
>> You are quite right and I thank you for your valuable opinion.
>> I have several friends that have opted for ASP over PHP and I wanted
>> to understand the reasons.
>>
>> Just two more questions:
>> 1- Do you actually prefer ASP to PHP?
>> 2- A bit off-topic but, What do you make of this statement?:
>> The paragraphs below describes W3Schools' vision about future
>> Internet Distributed Applications:
>> "Executables, C++ (and Java too) must die
>> Neither C++ nor Java can ever create standard components that can run
>> on all computers. There is no room for these languages in future
>> distributed applications. Executables are not standard. COM objects
>> are not standard, DLL-files are not standard. Registry settings are
>> not standard. INI-files are not standard. None of these components
>> must be allowed to destroy your dream of a standard distributed
>> application that will run on almost any computer in the world."
>> http://www.w3schools.com/ngws/ngws_standards.asp
>>
>
> All of this are the opinions of one or two people who put together a web
> site. Nothing more, nothing less. It is worth exactly what you paid
> for it.
>
> Of course not everything's standard. That's because different people
> have different needs. And it will always remain that way.
>

Indeed, however they left out the most important reason to use PHP

It's not, never has been, and never will be, "Cursed By Microsoft".

This to me is so overwhelming, that all other reasons pale into
insignificance.

Nothing that Microsoft gets involved with ever works properly
thereafter. The temptation to make it only work with Microsoft products,
and if possible only the LATEST and MOST EXPENSIVE Microsoft products,
is usually overwhelming.

Re: 10 Reasons Why PHP is Better than ASP

am 17.01.2008 17:40:18 von Courtney

Jerry Stuckle wrote:
> Ali Bobo wrote:
>> On Jan 16, 7:31 pm, "Steve" wrote:
>>> "Ali Bobo" <1001w...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>
>>> news:3b0a3c54-0c8a-4465-9e33-566f84ecd966@v4g2000hsf.googleg roups.com...
>>>
>>>> 1. PHP.NET the greatest API resource known to MAN
>>> completely relative statement. i can safely assume you've not
>>> experienced
>>> *all* api's known to man!
>>>
>>>> 2. If you have a problem, someone will have already implemented a
>>>> solution in PHP for you
>>> and this is in contrast to the support and examples/solutions
>>> afforded asp?
>>> think again.
>>>
>>>> 3. Syntax is better, closer to C, C++, and Java. Unlike VB where
>>>> anything goes.
>>> uhhhh, php is just as loose as asp - which is *vb script* NOT VB.
>>> asp.net,
>>> however, is more OOP capable than php AND forces strong data-typing.
>>> troll.
>>>
>>> as for which stylistic preference you have in writing code, who gives a
>>> fuck?!!!
>>>
>>>> 4. To run ASP you need IIS on windows, which is not free, for PHP
>>>> however you need Linux and Apache which are FREE!!
>>> sorry, wrong again! i can run asp on linux boxes running apache. that
>>> technology is at least 8 years old, idiot.
>>>
>>>> 5. Great built in support for ftp, email, graphics package GD2 and
>>>> also MySQL (also FREE).
>>> and, asp has *greater* built in support for these and more. last time i
>>> checked, ms was giving asp.net AND a world-class IDE for it's
>>> development
>>> away...i.e. FREE.
>>>
>>> next dumbass remark?
>>>
>>>> 6. PHP will run on Unix, Linux, Solaris and Windows. ASP is mainly
>>>> only Windows associated but you can use it on linux with additional
>>>> modules installed.
>>> which completely bastardizes your statement number 4...along with
>>> mooting
>>> itself in the process. are you that brain-dead?
>>>
>>>> 7. PHP code is much faster, ASP is developed on the COM based
>>>> architecture, this is an overhead for the server.
>>> and what version of asp are you talking about? the one from 8 years
>>> ago? asp
>>> as of right now can backwardly support com. it's architecture is
>>> completely
>>> OOP based and everything runs from a NON-COM based framework. asp
>>> performs
>>> equally in speed to php and in a lot of cases, outperforms it. one of
>>> the
>>> benefits of a company that creates a web language and also providing
>>> the os
>>> on which it will run, the functionality is built into the kernel itself.
>>>
>>>> 8. mod_rewrite, need I say more.
>>> the answer is, you need to say something that applies. mod_rewrite is
>>> apache, not php. as i can run asp via apache, your point is
>>> moot...again!
>>>
>>>> 9. Advanced Perl-compatible regular expression functions and loads
>>>> of built in support for regular expressions on the whole.
>>> funny how think, or imply, that asp and regex are strangers to
>>> eachother.
>>> specifically, if i develop a vb < .net application, i have to
>>> reference the
>>> *scripting* library (you know, the web version of vb) in order to use
>>> regex.
>>> asp has *always* supported regex...vb.net is the first time regex was
>>> directly supported, without COM, in vb. geee, why would that be?
>>> because NO
>>> NEW LANGUAGES BY MS HAVE A COM ARCHITECTURES.
>>>
>>>> 10. Greater control over error handling, and more detailed error
>>>> messages.
>>> last i checked, try/catch/finally was introduced to asp around the
>>> same time
>>> it was supported in php. and, since it's the same construct, how do you
>>> suppose php has greater control. further, both php and asp allow you to
>>> generate customer error messages. as for the defined errors, i can only
>>> laugh. leave out a semi-colon in php, run the page in the browser and
>>> tell
>>> me exactly what the error means...not to mention WHERE the *actual*
>>> error
>>> is. ROFLMFAO !!!
>>>
>>> and, btw, when could you ever seemlessly integrate external resources
>>> (not
>>> just modules) into php. oh shit! you mean you had to use COM(). lol.
>>> in asp,
>>> if an api exists, i can consume it.
>>>
>>> how easy is it to set up php for debugging?
>>>
>>> can you use vb, c#, c, c++, or any one of 23 others to develop a php
>>> solution?
>>>
>>> can you switch, in code, mid-stream to from one language to another?
>>>
>>> if you have no clue as to the technology against which you are making
>>> comparisons, how the fuck can you expect to be taken seriously?!!!
>>> further,
>>> how can you ever expect to pick the right tool for the job...which is
>>> COMPLETELY what makes one better than the other! it's all relative to
>>> changing factors that you don't even consider, troll.
>>
>> I just copy&pasted it, from the link at the bottom.
>> You are quite right and I thank you for your valuable opinion.
>> I have several friends that have opted for ASP over PHP and I wanted
>> to understand the reasons.
>>
>> Just two more questions:
>> 1- Do you actually prefer ASP to PHP?
>> 2- A bit off-topic but, What do you make of this statement?:
>> The paragraphs below describes W3Schools' vision about future
>> Internet Distributed Applications:
>> "Executables, C++ (and Java too) must die
>> Neither C++ nor Java can ever create standard components that can run
>> on all computers. There is no room for these languages in future
>> distributed applications. Executables are not standard. COM objects
>> are not standard, DLL-files are not standard. Registry settings are
>> not standard. INI-files are not standard. None of these components
>> must be allowed to destroy your dream of a standard distributed
>> application that will run on almost any computer in the world."
>> http://www.w3schools.com/ngws/ngws_standards.asp
>>
>
> All of this are the opinions of one or two people who put together a web
> site. Nothing more, nothing less. It is worth exactly what you paid
> for it.
>
> Of course not everything's standard. That's because different people
> have different needs. And it will always remain that way.
>

Indeed, however they left out the most important reason to use PHP

It's not, never has been, and never will be, "Cursed By Microsoft".

This to me is so overwhelming, that all other reasons pale into
insignificance.

Nothing that Microsoft gets involved with ever works properly
thereafter. The temptation to make it only work with Microsoft products,
and if possible only the LATEST and MOST EXPENSIVE Microsoft products,
is usually overwhelming.

Re: 10 Reasons Why PHP is Better than ASP

am 17.01.2008 17:40:18 von Courtney

Jerry Stuckle wrote:
> Ali Bobo wrote:
>> On Jan 16, 7:31 pm, "Steve" wrote:
>>> "Ali Bobo" <1001w...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>
>>> news:3b0a3c54-0c8a-4465-9e33-566f84ecd966@v4g2000hsf.googleg roups.com...
>>>
>>>> 1. PHP.NET the greatest API resource known to MAN
>>> completely relative statement. i can safely assume you've not
>>> experienced
>>> *all* api's known to man!
>>>
>>>> 2. If you have a problem, someone will have already implemented a
>>>> solution in PHP for you
>>> and this is in contrast to the support and examples/solutions
>>> afforded asp?
>>> think again.
>>>
>>>> 3. Syntax is better, closer to C, C++, and Java. Unlike VB where
>>>> anything goes.
>>> uhhhh, php is just as loose as asp - which is *vb script* NOT VB.
>>> asp.net,
>>> however, is more OOP capable than php AND forces strong data-typing.
>>> troll.
>>>
>>> as for which stylistic preference you have in writing code, who gives a
>>> fuck?!!!
>>>
>>>> 4. To run ASP you need IIS on windows, which is not free, for PHP
>>>> however you need Linux and Apache which are FREE!!
>>> sorry, wrong again! i can run asp on linux boxes running apache. that
>>> technology is at least 8 years old, idiot.
>>>
>>>> 5. Great built in support for ftp, email, graphics package GD2 and
>>>> also MySQL (also FREE).
>>> and, asp has *greater* built in support for these and more. last time i
>>> checked, ms was giving asp.net AND a world-class IDE for it's
>>> development
>>> away...i.e. FREE.
>>>
>>> next dumbass remark?
>>>
>>>> 6. PHP will run on Unix, Linux, Solaris and Windows. ASP is mainly
>>>> only Windows associated but you can use it on linux with additional
>>>> modules installed.
>>> which completely bastardizes your statement number 4...along with
>>> mooting
>>> itself in the process. are you that brain-dead?
>>>
>>>> 7. PHP code is much faster, ASP is developed on the COM based
>>>> architecture, this is an overhead for the server.
>>> and what version of asp are you talking about? the one from 8 years
>>> ago? asp
>>> as of right now can backwardly support com. it's architecture is
>>> completely
>>> OOP based and everything runs from a NON-COM based framework. asp
>>> performs
>>> equally in speed to php and in a lot of cases, outperforms it. one of
>>> the
>>> benefits of a company that creates a web language and also providing
>>> the os
>>> on which it will run, the functionality is built into the kernel itself.
>>>
>>>> 8. mod_rewrite, need I say more.
>>> the answer is, you need to say something that applies. mod_rewrite is
>>> apache, not php. as i can run asp via apache, your point is
>>> moot...again!
>>>
>>>> 9. Advanced Perl-compatible regular expression functions and loads
>>>> of built in support for regular expressions on the whole.
>>> funny how think, or imply, that asp and regex are strangers to
>>> eachother.
>>> specifically, if i develop a vb < .net application, i have to
>>> reference the
>>> *scripting* library (you know, the web version of vb) in order to use
>>> regex.
>>> asp has *always* supported regex...vb.net is the first time regex was
>>> directly supported, without COM, in vb. geee, why would that be?
>>> because NO
>>> NEW LANGUAGES BY MS HAVE A COM ARCHITECTURES.
>>>
>>>> 10. Greater control over error handling, and more detailed error
>>>> messages.
>>> last i checked, try/catch/finally was introduced to asp around the
>>> same time
>>> it was supported in php. and, since it's the same construct, how do you
>>> suppose php has greater control. further, both php and asp allow you to
>>> generate customer error messages. as for the defined errors, i can only
>>> laugh. leave out a semi-colon in php, run the page in the browser and
>>> tell
>>> me exactly what the error means...not to mention WHERE the *actual*
>>> error
>>> is. ROFLMFAO !!!
>>>
>>> and, btw, when could you ever seemlessly integrate external resources
>>> (not
>>> just modules) into php. oh shit! you mean you had to use COM(). lol.
>>> in asp,
>>> if an api exists, i can consume it.
>>>
>>> how easy is it to set up php for debugging?
>>>
>>> can you use vb, c#, c, c++, or any one of 23 others to develop a php
>>> solution?
>>>
>>> can you switch, in code, mid-stream to from one language to another?
>>>
>>> if you have no clue as to the technology against which you are making
>>> comparisons, how the fuck can you expect to be taken seriously?!!!
>>> further,
>>> how can you ever expect to pick the right tool for the job...which is
>>> COMPLETELY what makes one better than the other! it's all relative to
>>> changing factors that you don't even consider, troll.
>>
>> I just copy&pasted it, from the link at the bottom.
>> You are quite right and I thank you for your valuable opinion.
>> I have several friends that have opted for ASP over PHP and I wanted
>> to understand the reasons.
>>
>> Just two more questions:
>> 1- Do you actually prefer ASP to PHP?
>> 2- A bit off-topic but, What do you make of this statement?:
>> The paragraphs below describes W3Schools' vision about future
>> Internet Distributed Applications:
>> "Executables, C++ (and Java too) must die
>> Neither C++ nor Java can ever create standard components that can run
>> on all computers. There is no room for these languages in future
>> distributed applications. Executables are not standard. COM objects
>> are not standard, DLL-files are not standard. Registry settings are
>> not standard. INI-files are not standard. None of these components
>> must be allowed to destroy your dream of a standard distributed
>> application that will run on almost any computer in the world."
>> http://www.w3schools.com/ngws/ngws_standards.asp
>>
>
> All of this are the opinions of one or two people who put together a web
> site. Nothing more, nothing less. It is worth exactly what you paid
> for it.
>
> Of course not everything's standard. That's because different people
> have different needs. And it will always remain that way.
>

Indeed, however they left out the most important reason to use PHP

It's not, never has been, and never will be, "Cursed By Microsoft".

This to me is so overwhelming, that all other reasons pale into
insignificance.

Nothing that Microsoft gets involved with ever works properly
thereafter. The temptation to make it only work with Microsoft products,
and if possible only the LATEST and MOST EXPENSIVE Microsoft products,
is usually overwhelming.

Re: 10 Reasons Why PHP is Better than ASP

am 18.01.2008 12:17:52 von Bob

Adam Frame wrote:

> Do you get a kick out of insulting people on the internet? You, sir are
> in need of a mouthwash with a bar of soap. If you cannot contribute to a
> civilized discussion without swearing and insults then don't contribute
> at all.

I think Steve is in need of an *automatic BANNING MACHINE* whenever he
writes ...

I read 2 times what I wrote before posting anything. Please consider
doing that from now on.

Excuse me if OT

bye

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Re: 10 Reasons Why PHP is Better than ASP

am 18.01.2008 20:06:31 von Steve

"Adam Frame" wrote in message
news:Ya2dna-v0czkHRLaRVn_vwA@giganews.com...
> Do you get a kick out of insulting people on the internet? You, sir are in
> need of a mouthwash with a bar of soap. If you cannot contribute to a
> civilized discussion without swearing and insults then don't contribute at
> all.

first of all, 'mouthwash' is the generic term for a product used *TO* wash
one's mouth. i think you mean that i need my mouth washed with...that would
be 'in need of a mouth wash with...'

the space is important. :)

Re: 10 Reasons Why PHP is Better than ASP

am 18.01.2008 20:06:31 von Steve

"Adam Frame" wrote in message
news:Ya2dna-v0czkHRLaRVn_vwA@giganews.com...
> Do you get a kick out of insulting people on the internet? You, sir are in
> need of a mouthwash with a bar of soap. If you cannot contribute to a
> civilized discussion without swearing and insults then don't contribute at
> all.

first of all, 'mouthwash' is the generic term for a product used *TO* wash
one's mouth. i think you mean that i need my mouth washed with...that would
be 'in need of a mouth wash with...'

the space is important. :)

Re: 10 Reasons Why PHP is Better than ASP

am 18.01.2008 20:06:31 von Steve

"Adam Frame" wrote in message
news:Ya2dna-v0czkHRLaRVn_vwA@giganews.com...
> Do you get a kick out of insulting people on the internet? You, sir are in
> need of a mouthwash with a bar of soap. If you cannot contribute to a
> civilized discussion without swearing and insults then don't contribute at
> all.

first of all, 'mouthwash' is the generic term for a product used *TO* wash
one's mouth. i think you mean that i need my mouth washed with...that would
be 'in need of a mouth wash with...'

the space is important. :)

Re: 10 Reasons Why PHP is Better than ASP

am 18.01.2008 20:09:41 von Steve

"bob" wrote in message
news:fmq1mo$18vo$2@newsreader1.mclink.it...
> Adam Frame wrote:
>
>> Do you get a kick out of insulting people on the internet? You, sir are
>> in need of a mouthwash with a bar of soap. If you cannot contribute to a
>> civilized discussion without swearing and insults then don't contribute
>> at all.
>
> I think Steve is in need of an *automatic BANNING MACHINE* whenever he
> writes ...
>
> I read 2 times what I wrote before posting anything. Please consider doing
> that from now on.
>
> Excuse me if OT

lol. yes, an automatic banning machine would save me much time. instead of
having to respond, i'd just boot them off the internet onto which they would
n'er be allowed to return. ROFLMFAO!!!

and btw, as i'm literate, i comprehend what i read...the *first* time
around. i'm sorry you're a bit slower at it, but there's not so much i can
do there to help you out, mate.

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Re: 10 Reasons Why PHP is Better than ASP

am 18.01.2008 22:53:16 von wayne

> It's not, never has been, and never will be, "Cursed By Microsoft".

Amen.

Re: 10 Reasons Why PHP is Better than ASP

am 18.01.2008 22:53:16 von wayne

> It's not, never has been, and never will be, "Cursed By Microsoft".

Amen.

Re: 10 Reasons Why PHP is Better than ASP

am 18.01.2008 22:53:16 von wayne

> It's not, never has been, and never will be, "Cursed By Microsoft".

Amen.

Re: 10 Reasons Why PHP is Better than ASP

am 20.01.2008 09:40:32 von Adam Frame

Steve wrote:
> "Adam Frame" wrote in message
> news:Ya2dna-v0czkHRLaRVn_vwA@giganews.com...
>> Do you get a kick out of insulting people on the internet? You, sir are in
>> need of a mouthwash with a bar of soap. If you cannot contribute to a
>> civilized discussion without swearing and insults then don't contribute at
>> all.
>
> first of all, 'mouthwash' is the generic term for a product used *TO* wash
> one's mouth. i think you mean that i need my mouth washed with...that would
> be 'in need of a mouth wash with...'
>
> the space is important. :)
>
>

However nitpicking your response may seem, I did realise that once I had
posted it and I thank you for your correction.

Now back to the matter in hand, why is it that on the internet people
find it more acceptable to swear, call people names and (god forbid)
threaten others? I've never understood that.

For me a much more damning response to a post you do not agree with is
one which refutes each and every point you intend to without resorting
to insults. You just debase your very own argument and make it much less
likely that you get your point across.

My 2 cents.

Re: 10 Reasons Why PHP is Better than ASP

am 20.01.2008 09:40:32 von Adam Frame

Steve wrote:
> "Adam Frame" wrote in message
> news:Ya2dna-v0czkHRLaRVn_vwA@giganews.com...
>> Do you get a kick out of insulting people on the internet? You, sir are in
>> need of a mouthwash with a bar of soap. If you cannot contribute to a
>> civilized discussion without swearing and insults then don't contribute at
>> all.
>
> first of all, 'mouthwash' is the generic term for a product used *TO* wash
> one's mouth. i think you mean that i need my mouth washed with...that would
> be 'in need of a mouth wash with...'
>
> the space is important. :)
>
>

However nitpicking your response may seem, I did realise that once I had
posted it and I thank you for your correction.

Now back to the matter in hand, why is it that on the internet people
find it more acceptable to swear, call people names and (god forbid)
threaten others? I've never understood that.

For me a much more damning response to a post you do not agree with is
one which refutes each and every point you intend to without resorting
to insults. You just debase your very own argument and make it much less
likely that you get your point across.

My 2 cents.

Re: 10 Reasons Why PHP is Better than ASP

am 20.01.2008 09:40:32 von Adam Frame

Steve wrote:
> "Adam Frame" wrote in message
> news:Ya2dna-v0czkHRLaRVn_vwA@giganews.com...
>> Do you get a kick out of insulting people on the internet? You, sir are in
>> need of a mouthwash with a bar of soap. If you cannot contribute to a
>> civilized discussion without swearing and insults then don't contribute at
>> all.
>
> first of all, 'mouthwash' is the generic term for a product used *TO* wash
> one's mouth. i think you mean that i need my mouth washed with...that would
> be 'in need of a mouth wash with...'
>
> the space is important. :)
>
>

However nitpicking your response may seem, I did realise that once I had
posted it and I thank you for your correction.

Now back to the matter in hand, why is it that on the internet people
find it more acceptable to swear, call people names and (god forbid)
threaten others? I've never understood that.

For me a much more damning response to a post you do not agree with is
one which refutes each and every point you intend to without resorting
to insults. You just debase your very own argument and make it much less
likely that you get your point across.

My 2 cents.

Re: 10 Reasons Why PHP is Better than ASP

am 20.01.2008 12:20:30 von Onideus Mad Hatter

On Thu, 17 Jan 2008 16:40:18 +0000, The Natural Philosopher
wrote:

>Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>> Ali Bobo wrote:
>>> On Jan 16, 7:31 pm, "Steve" wrote:
>>>> "Ali Bobo" <1001w...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>
>>>> news:3b0a3c54-0c8a-4465-9e33-566f84ecd966@v4g2000hsf.googleg roups.com...
>>>>
>>>>> 1. PHP.NET the greatest API resource known to MAN
>>>> completely relative statement. i can safely assume you've not
>>>> experienced
>>>> *all* api's known to man!
>>>>
>>>>> 2. If you have a problem, someone will have already implemented a
>>>>> solution in PHP for you
>>>> and this is in contrast to the support and examples/solutions
>>>> afforded asp?
>>>> think again.
>>>>
>>>>> 3. Syntax is better, closer to C, C++, and Java. Unlike VB where
>>>>> anything goes.
>>>> uhhhh, php is just as loose as asp - which is *vb script* NOT VB.
>>>> asp.net,
>>>> however, is more OOP capable than php AND forces strong data-typing.
>>>> troll.
>>>>
>>>> as for which stylistic preference you have in writing code, who gives a
>>>> fuck?!!!
>>>>
>>>>> 4. To run ASP you need IIS on windows, which is not free, for PHP
>>>>> however you need Linux and Apache which are FREE!!
>>>> sorry, wrong again! i can run asp on linux boxes running apache. that
>>>> technology is at least 8 years old, idiot.
>>>>
>>>>> 5. Great built in support for ftp, email, graphics package GD2 and
>>>>> also MySQL (also FREE).
>>>> and, asp has *greater* built in support for these and more. last time i
>>>> checked, ms was giving asp.net AND a world-class IDE for it's
>>>> development
>>>> away...i.e. FREE.
>>>>
>>>> next dumbass remark?
>>>>
>>>>> 6. PHP will run on Unix, Linux, Solaris and Windows. ASP is mainly
>>>>> only Windows associated but you can use it on linux with additional
>>>>> modules installed.
>>>> which completely bastardizes your statement number 4...along with
>>>> mooting
>>>> itself in the process. are you that brain-dead?
>>>>
>>>>> 7. PHP code is much faster, ASP is developed on the COM based
>>>>> architecture, this is an overhead for the server.
>>>> and what version of asp are you talking about? the one from 8 years
>>>> ago? asp
>>>> as of right now can backwardly support com. it's architecture is
>>>> completely
>>>> OOP based and everything runs from a NON-COM based framework. asp
>>>> performs
>>>> equally in speed to php and in a lot of cases, outperforms it. one of
>>>> the
>>>> benefits of a company that creates a web language and also providing
>>>> the os
>>>> on which it will run, the functionality is built into the kernel itself.
>>>>
>>>>> 8. mod_rewrite, need I say more.
>>>> the answer is, you need to say something that applies. mod_rewrite is
>>>> apache, not php. as i can run asp via apache, your point is
>>>> moot...again!
>>>>
>>>>> 9. Advanced Perl-compatible regular expression functions and loads
>>>>> of built in support for regular expressions on the whole.
>>>> funny how think, or imply, that asp and regex are strangers to
>>>> eachother.
>>>> specifically, if i develop a vb < .net application, i have to
>>>> reference the
>>>> *scripting* library (you know, the web version of vb) in order to use
>>>> regex.
>>>> asp has *always* supported regex...vb.net is the first time regex was
>>>> directly supported, without COM, in vb. geee, why would that be?
>>>> because NO
>>>> NEW LANGUAGES BY MS HAVE A COM ARCHITECTURES.
>>>>
>>>>> 10. Greater control over error handling, and more detailed error
>>>>> messages.
>>>> last i checked, try/catch/finally was introduced to asp around the
>>>> same time
>>>> it was supported in php. and, since it's the same construct, how do you
>>>> suppose php has greater control. further, both php and asp allow you to
>>>> generate customer error messages. as for the defined errors, i can only
>>>> laugh. leave out a semi-colon in php, run the page in the browser and
>>>> tell
>>>> me exactly what the error means...not to mention WHERE the *actual*
>>>> error
>>>> is. ROFLMFAO !!!
>>>>
>>>> and, btw, when could you ever seemlessly integrate external resources
>>>> (not
>>>> just modules) into php. oh shit! you mean you had to use COM(). lol.
>>>> in asp,
>>>> if an api exists, i can consume it.
>>>>
>>>> how easy is it to set up php for debugging?
>>>>
>>>> can you use vb, c#, c, c++, or any one of 23 others to develop a php
>>>> solution?
>>>>
>>>> can you switch, in code, mid-stream to from one language to another?
>>>>
>>>> if you have no clue as to the technology against which you are making
>>>> comparisons, how the fuck can you expect to be taken seriously?!!!
>>>> further,
>>>> how can you ever expect to pick the right tool for the job...which is
>>>> COMPLETELY what makes one better than the other! it's all relative to
>>>> changing factors that you don't even consider, troll.
>>>
>>> I just copy&pasted it, from the link at the bottom.
>>> You are quite right and I thank you for your valuable opinion.
>>> I have several friends that have opted for ASP over PHP and I wanted
>>> to understand the reasons.
>>>
>>> Just two more questions:
>>> 1- Do you actually prefer ASP to PHP?
>>> 2- A bit off-topic but, What do you make of this statement?:
>>> The paragraphs below describes W3Schools' vision about future
>>> Internet Distributed Applications:
>>> "Executables, C++ (and Java too) must die
>>> Neither C++ nor Java can ever create standard components that can run
>>> on all computers. There is no room for these languages in future
>>> distributed applications. Executables are not standard. COM objects
>>> are not standard, DLL-files are not standard. Registry settings are
>>> not standard. INI-files are not standard. None of these components
>>> must be allowed to destroy your dream of a standard distributed
>>> application that will run on almost any computer in the world."
>>> http://www.w3schools.com/ngws/ngws_standards.asp
>>>
>>
>> All of this are the opinions of one or two people who put together a web
>> site. Nothing more, nothing less. It is worth exactly what you paid
>> for it.
>>
>> Of course not everything's standard. That's because different people
>> have different needs. And it will always remain that way.
>>
>
>Indeed, however they left out the most important reason to use PHP
>
>It's not, never has been, and never will be, "Cursed By Microsoft".
>
>This to me is so overwhelming, that all other reasons pale into
>insignificance.
>
>Nothing that Microsoft gets involved with ever works properly
>thereafter. The temptation to make it only work with Microsoft products,
>and if possible only the LATEST and MOST EXPENSIVE Microsoft products,
>is usually overwhelming.

You're just as fuckin stupid as the person who wrote the shit in the
OP. I mean either you can step the fuck up and post actual examples
and situations in which ASP fails and PHP does not...or you can't.

Yer just another dumbfuck (ie blind Microsoft hater), no different
from the dumbfuck Mac humping flunkies or the dumbfuck Linux lovin ass
stains...all y'all are a bunch of fuckin retards plain and simple.
You base your NONpinions on trivial stupidity often directly linked to
your short between the keyboard and chair, blaming your stupidity on
Microsoft and grasping at anecdotal lames you slurped off some
tweenage muppet fuck run Webbie board. 10 times out 10 when someone
claims their problem is caused by Microsoft...it's really caused by
their own stupidity, usually because Microsoft didn't hold their
bumbling hand enough through the setup/installation or the system
their running is using crap ass factory seconds garbageware they
bought off eBay.

--

Onideus Mad Hatter
mhm ¹ x ¹
http://www.backwater-productions.net
http://www.backwater-productions.net/hatter-blog


Hatter Quotes
-------------
"You're only one of the best if you're striving to become one of the
best."

"I didn't make reality, Sunshine, I just verbally bitch slapped you
with it."

"I'm not a professional, I'm an artist."

"Your Usenet blinders are my best friend."

"Usenet Filters - Learn to shut yourself the fuck up!"

"Drugs killed Jesus you know...oh wait, no, that was the Jews, my
bad."

"There are clingy things in the grass...burrs 'n such...mmmm..."

"The more I learn the more I'm killing my idols."

"Is it wrong to incur and then use the hate ridden, vengeful stupidity
of complete strangers in random Usenet froups to further my art?"

"Freedom is only a concept, like race it's merely a social construct
that doesn't really exist outside of your ability to convince others
of its relevancy."

"Next time slow up a lil, then maybe you won't jump the gun and start
creamin yer panties before it's time to pop the champagne proper."

"Reality is directly proportionate to how creative you are."

"People are pretty fucking high on themselves if they think that
they're just born with a soul. *snicker*...yeah, like they're just
givin em out for free."

"Quible, quible said the Hare. Quite a lot of quibling...everywhere.
So the Hare took a long stare and decided at best, to leave the rest,
to their merry little mess."

"There's a difference between 'bad' and 'so earth shatteringly
horrible it makes the angels scream in terror as they violently rip
their heads off, their blood spraying into the faces of a thousand
sweet innocent horrified children, who will forever have the terrible
images burned into their tiny little minds'."

"How sad that you're such a poor judge of style that you can't even
properly gauge the artistic worth of your own efforts."

"Those who record history are those who control history."

"I am the living embodiment of hell itself in all its tormentive rage,
endless suffering, unfathomable pain and unending horror...but you
don't get sent to me...I come for you."

"Ideally in a fight I'd want a BGM-109A with a W80 250 kiloton
tactical thermonuclear fusion based war head."

"Tell me, would you describe yourself more as a process or a
function?"

"Apparently this group has got the market cornered on stupid.
Intelligence is down 137 points across the board and the forecast
indicates an increase in Webtv users."

"Is my .sig delimiter broken? Really? You're sure? Awww,
gee...that's too bad...for YOU!" `, )

Re: 10 Reasons Why PHP is Better than ASP

am 20.01.2008 12:20:30 von Onideus Mad Hatter

On Thu, 17 Jan 2008 16:40:18 +0000, The Natural Philosopher
wrote:

>Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>> Ali Bobo wrote:
>>> On Jan 16, 7:31 pm, "Steve" wrote:
>>>> "Ali Bobo" <1001w...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>
>>>> news:3b0a3c54-0c8a-4465-9e33-566f84ecd966@v4g2000hsf.googleg roups.com...
>>>>
>>>>> 1. PHP.NET the greatest API resource known to MAN
>>>> completely relative statement. i can safely assume you've not
>>>> experienced
>>>> *all* api's known to man!
>>>>
>>>>> 2. If you have a problem, someone will have already implemented a
>>>>> solution in PHP for you
>>>> and this is in contrast to the support and examples/solutions
>>>> afforded asp?
>>>> think again.
>>>>
>>>>> 3. Syntax is better, closer to C, C++, and Java. Unlike VB where
>>>>> anything goes.
>>>> uhhhh, php is just as loose as asp - which is *vb script* NOT VB.
>>>> asp.net,
>>>> however, is more OOP capable than php AND forces strong data-typing.
>>>> troll.
>>>>
>>>> as for which stylistic preference you have in writing code, who gives a
>>>> fuck?!!!
>>>>
>>>>> 4. To run ASP you need IIS on windows, which is not free, for PHP
>>>>> however you need Linux and Apache which are FREE!!
>>>> sorry, wrong again! i can run asp on linux boxes running apache. that
>>>> technology is at least 8 years old, idiot.
>>>>
>>>>> 5. Great built in support for ftp, email, graphics package GD2 and
>>>>> also MySQL (also FREE).
>>>> and, asp has *greater* built in support for these and more. last time i
>>>> checked, ms was giving asp.net AND a world-class IDE for it's
>>>> development
>>>> away...i.e. FREE.
>>>>
>>>> next dumbass remark?
>>>>
>>>>> 6. PHP will run on Unix, Linux, Solaris and Windows. ASP is mainly
>>>>> only Windows associated but you can use it on linux with additional
>>>>> modules installed.
>>>> which completely bastardizes your statement number 4...along with
>>>> mooting
>>>> itself in the process. are you that brain-dead?
>>>>
>>>>> 7. PHP code is much faster, ASP is developed on the COM based
>>>>> architecture, this is an overhead for the server.
>>>> and what version of asp are you talking about? the one from 8 years
>>>> ago? asp
>>>> as of right now can backwardly support com. it's architecture is
>>>> completely
>>>> OOP based and everything runs from a NON-COM based framework. asp
>>>> performs
>>>> equally in speed to php and in a lot of cases, outperforms it. one of
>>>> the
>>>> benefits of a company that creates a web language and also providing
>>>> the os
>>>> on which it will run, the functionality is built into the kernel itself.
>>>>
>>>>> 8. mod_rewrite, need I say more.
>>>> the answer is, you need to say something that applies. mod_rewrite is
>>>> apache, not php. as i can run asp via apache, your point is
>>>> moot...again!
>>>>
>>>>> 9. Advanced Perl-compatible regular expression functions and loads
>>>>> of built in support for regular expressions on the whole.
>>>> funny how think, or imply, that asp and regex are strangers to
>>>> eachother.
>>>> specifically, if i develop a vb < .net application, i have to
>>>> reference the
>>>> *scripting* library (you know, the web version of vb) in order to use
>>>> regex.
>>>> asp has *always* supported regex...vb.net is the first time regex was
>>>> directly supported, without COM, in vb. geee, why would that be?
>>>> because NO
>>>> NEW LANGUAGES BY MS HAVE A COM ARCHITECTURES.
>>>>
>>>>> 10. Greater control over error handling, and more detailed error
>>>>> messages.
>>>> last i checked, try/catch/finally was introduced to asp around the
>>>> same time
>>>> it was supported in php. and, since it's the same construct, how do you
>>>> suppose php has greater control. further, both php and asp allow you to
>>>> generate customer error messages. as for the defined errors, i can only
>>>> laugh. leave out a semi-colon in php, run the page in the browser and
>>>> tell
>>>> me exactly what the error means...not to mention WHERE the *actual*
>>>> error
>>>> is. ROFLMFAO !!!
>>>>
>>>> and, btw, when could you ever seemlessly integrate external resources
>>>> (not
>>>> just modules) into php. oh shit! you mean you had to use COM(). lol.
>>>> in asp,
>>>> if an api exists, i can consume it.
>>>>
>>>> how easy is it to set up php for debugging?
>>>>
>>>> can you use vb, c#, c, c++, or any one of 23 others to develop a php
>>>> solution?
>>>>
>>>> can you switch, in code, mid-stream to from one language to another?
>>>>
>>>> if you have no clue as to the technology against which you are making
>>>> comparisons, how the fuck can you expect to be taken seriously?!!!
>>>> further,
>>>> how can you ever expect to pick the right tool for the job...which is
>>>> COMPLETELY what makes one better than the other! it's all relative to
>>>> changing factors that you don't even consider, troll.
>>>
>>> I just copy&pasted it, from the link at the bottom.
>>> You are quite right and I thank you for your valuable opinion.
>>> I have several friends that have opted for ASP over PHP and I wanted
>>> to understand the reasons.
>>>
>>> Just two more questions:
>>> 1- Do you actually prefer ASP to PHP?
>>> 2- A bit off-topic but, What do you make of this statement?:
>>> The paragraphs below describes W3Schools' vision about future
>>> Internet Distributed Applications:
>>> "Executables, C++ (and Java too) must die
>>> Neither C++ nor Java can ever create standard components that can run
>>> on all computers. There is no room for these languages in future
>>> distributed applications. Executables are not standard. COM objects
>>> are not standard, DLL-files are not standard. Registry settings are
>>> not standard. INI-files are not standard. None of these components
>>> must be allowed to destroy your dream of a standard distributed
>>> application that will run on almost any computer in the world."
>>> http://www.w3schools.com/ngws/ngws_standards.asp
>>>
>>
>> All of this are the opinions of one or two people who put together a web
>> site. Nothing more, nothing less. It is worth exactly what you paid
>> for it.
>>
>> Of course not everything's standard. That's because different people
>> have different needs. And it will always remain that way.
>>
>
>Indeed, however they left out the most important reason to use PHP
>
>It's not, never has been, and never will be, "Cursed By Microsoft".
>
>This to me is so overwhelming, that all other reasons pale into
>insignificance.
>
>Nothing that Microsoft gets involved with ever works properly
>thereafter. The temptation to make it only work with Microsoft products,
>and if possible only the LATEST and MOST EXPENSIVE Microsoft products,
>is usually overwhelming.

You're just as fuckin stupid as the person who wrote the shit in the
OP. I mean either you can step the fuck up and post actual examples
and situations in which ASP fails and PHP does not...or you can't.

Yer just another dumbfuck (ie blind Microsoft hater), no different
from the dumbfuck Mac humping flunkies or the dumbfuck Linux lovin ass
stains...all y'all are a bunch of fuckin retards plain and simple.
You base your NONpinions on trivial stupidity often directly linked to
your short between the keyboard and chair, blaming your stupidity on
Microsoft and grasping at anecdotal lames you slurped off some
tweenage muppet fuck run Webbie board. 10 times out 10 when someone
claims their problem is caused by Microsoft...it's really caused by
their own stupidity, usually because Microsoft didn't hold their
bumbling hand enough through the setup/installation or the system
their running is using crap ass factory seconds garbageware they
bought off eBay.

--

Onideus Mad Hatter
mhm ¹ x ¹
http://www.backwater-productions.net
http://www.backwater-productions.net/hatter-blog


Hatter Quotes
-------------
"You're only one of the best if you're striving to become one of the
best."

"I didn't make reality, Sunshine, I just verbally bitch slapped you
with it."

"I'm not a professional, I'm an artist."

"Your Usenet blinders are my best friend."

"Usenet Filters - Learn to shut yourself the fuck up!"

"Drugs killed Jesus you know...oh wait, no, that was the Jews, my
bad."

"There are clingy things in the grass...burrs 'n such...mmmm..."

"The more I learn the more I'm killing my idols."

"Is it wrong to incur and then use the hate ridden, vengeful stupidity
of complete strangers in random Usenet froups to further my art?"

"Freedom is only a concept, like race it's merely a social construct
that doesn't really exist outside of your ability to convince others
of its relevancy."

"Next time slow up a lil, then maybe you won't jump the gun and start
creamin yer panties before it's time to pop the champagne proper."

"Reality is directly proportionate to how creative you are."

"People are pretty fucking high on themselves if they think that
they're just born with a soul. *snicker*...yeah, like they're just
givin em out for free."

"Quible, quible said the Hare. Quite a lot of quibling...everywhere.
So the Hare took a long stare and decided at best, to leave the rest,
to their merry little mess."

"There's a difference between 'bad' and 'so earth shatteringly
horrible it makes the angels scream in terror as they violently rip
their heads off, their blood spraying into the faces of a thousand
sweet innocent horrified children, who will forever have the terrible
images burned into their tiny little minds'."

"How sad that you're such a poor judge of style that you can't even
properly gauge the artistic worth of your own efforts."

"Those who record history are those who control history."

"I am the living embodiment of hell itself in all its tormentive rage,
endless suffering, unfathomable pain and unending horror...but you
don't get sent to me...I come for you."

"Ideally in a fight I'd want a BGM-109A with a W80 250 kiloton
tactical thermonuclear fusion based war head."

"Tell me, would you describe yourself more as a process or a
function?"

"Apparently this group has got the market cornered on stupid.
Intelligence is down 137 points across the board and the forecast
indicates an increase in Webtv users."

"Is my .sig delimiter broken? Really? You're sure? Awww,
gee...that's too bad...for YOU!" `, )

Re: 10 Reasons Why PHP is Better than ASP

am 20.01.2008 12:20:30 von Onideus Mad Hatter

On Thu, 17 Jan 2008 16:40:18 +0000, The Natural Philosopher
wrote:

>Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>> Ali Bobo wrote:
>>> On Jan 16, 7:31 pm, "Steve" wrote:
>>>> "Ali Bobo" <1001w...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>
>>>> news:3b0a3c54-0c8a-4465-9e33-566f84ecd966@v4g2000hsf.googleg roups.com...
>>>>
>>>>> 1. PHP.NET the greatest API resource known to MAN
>>>> completely relative statement. i can safely assume you've not
>>>> experienced
>>>> *all* api's known to man!
>>>>
>>>>> 2. If you have a problem, someone will have already implemented a
>>>>> solution in PHP for you
>>>> and this is in contrast to the support and examples/solutions
>>>> afforded asp?
>>>> think again.
>>>>
>>>>> 3. Syntax is better, closer to C, C++, and Java. Unlike VB where
>>>>> anything goes.
>>>> uhhhh, php is just as loose as asp - which is *vb script* NOT VB.
>>>> asp.net,
>>>> however, is more OOP capable than php AND forces strong data-typing.
>>>> troll.
>>>>
>>>> as for which stylistic preference you have in writing code, who gives a
>>>> fuck?!!!
>>>>
>>>>> 4. To run ASP you need IIS on windows, which is not free, for PHP
>>>>> however you need Linux and Apache which are FREE!!
>>>> sorry, wrong again! i can run asp on linux boxes running apache. that
>>>> technology is at least 8 years old, idiot.
>>>>
>>>>> 5. Great built in support for ftp, email, graphics package GD2 and
>>>>> also MySQL (also FREE).
>>>> and, asp has *greater* built in support for these and more. last time i
>>>> checked, ms was giving asp.net AND a world-class IDE for it's
>>>> development
>>>> away...i.e. FREE.
>>>>
>>>> next dumbass remark?
>>>>
>>>>> 6. PHP will run on Unix, Linux, Solaris and Windows. ASP is mainly
>>>>> only Windows associated but you can use it on linux with additional
>>>>> modules installed.
>>>> which completely bastardizes your statement number 4...along with
>>>> mooting
>>>> itself in the process. are you that brain-dead?
>>>>
>>>>> 7. PHP code is much faster, ASP is developed on the COM based
>>>>> architecture, this is an overhead for the server.
>>>> and what version of asp are you talking about? the one from 8 years
>>>> ago? asp
>>>> as of right now can backwardly support com. it's architecture is
>>>> completely
>>>> OOP based and everything runs from a NON-COM based framework. asp
>>>> performs
>>>> equally in speed to php and in a lot of cases, outperforms it. one of
>>>> the
>>>> benefits of a company that creates a web language and also providing
>>>> the os
>>>> on which it will run, the functionality is built into the kernel itself.
>>>>
>>>>> 8. mod_rewrite, need I say more.
>>>> the answer is, you need to say something that applies. mod_rewrite is
>>>> apache, not php. as i can run asp via apache, your point is
>>>> moot...again!
>>>>
>>>>> 9. Advanced Perl-compatible regular expression functions and loads
>>>>> of built in support for regular expressions on the whole.
>>>> funny how think, or imply, that asp and regex are strangers to
>>>> eachother.
>>>> specifically, if i develop a vb < .net application, i have to
>>>> reference the
>>>> *scripting* library (you know, the web version of vb) in order to use
>>>> regex.
>>>> asp has *always* supported regex...vb.net is the first time regex was
>>>> directly supported, without COM, in vb. geee, why would that be?
>>>> because NO
>>>> NEW LANGUAGES BY MS HAVE A COM ARCHITECTURES.
>>>>
>>>>> 10. Greater control over error handling, and more detailed error
>>>>> messages.
>>>> last i checked, try/catch/finally was introduced to asp around the
>>>> same time
>>>> it was supported in php. and, since it's the same construct, how do you
>>>> suppose php has greater control. further, both php and asp allow you to
>>>> generate customer error messages. as for the defined errors, i can only
>>>> laugh. leave out a semi-colon in php, run the page in the browser and
>>>> tell
>>>> me exactly what the error means...not to mention WHERE the *actual*
>>>> error
>>>> is. ROFLMFAO !!!
>>>>
>>>> and, btw, when could you ever seemlessly integrate external resources
>>>> (not
>>>> just modules) into php. oh shit! you mean you had to use COM(). lol.
>>>> in asp,
>>>> if an api exists, i can consume it.
>>>>
>>>> how easy is it to set up php for debugging?
>>>>
>>>> can you use vb, c#, c, c++, or any one of 23 others to develop a php
>>>> solution?
>>>>
>>>> can you switch, in code, mid-stream to from one language to another?
>>>>
>>>> if you have no clue as to the technology against which you are making
>>>> comparisons, how the fuck can you expect to be taken seriously?!!!
>>>> further,
>>>> how can you ever expect to pick the right tool for the job...which is
>>>> COMPLETELY what makes one better than the other! it's all relative to
>>>> changing factors that you don't even consider, troll.
>>>
>>> I just copy&pasted it, from the link at the bottom.
>>> You are quite right and I thank you for your valuable opinion.
>>> I have several friends that have opted for ASP over PHP and I wanted
>>> to understand the reasons.
>>>
>>> Just two more questions:
>>> 1- Do you actually prefer ASP to PHP?
>>> 2- A bit off-topic but, What do you make of this statement?:
>>> The paragraphs below describes W3Schools' vision about future
>>> Internet Distributed Applications:
>>> "Executables, C++ (and Java too) must die
>>> Neither C++ nor Java can ever create standard components that can run
>>> on all computers. There is no room for these languages in future
>>> distributed applications. Executables are not standard. COM objects
>>> are not standard, DLL-files are not standard. Registry settings are
>>> not standard. INI-files are not standard. None of these components
>>> must be allowed to destroy your dream of a standard distributed
>>> application that will run on almost any computer in the world."
>>> http://www.w3schools.com/ngws/ngws_standards.asp
>>>
>>
>> All of this are the opinions of one or two people who put together a web
>> site. Nothing more, nothing less. It is worth exactly what you paid
>> for it.
>>
>> Of course not everything's standard. That's because different people
>> have different needs. And it will always remain that way.
>>
>
>Indeed, however they left out the most important reason to use PHP
>
>It's not, never has been, and never will be, "Cursed By Microsoft".
>
>This to me is so overwhelming, that all other reasons pale into
>insignificance.
>
>Nothing that Microsoft gets involved with ever works properly
>thereafter. The temptation to make it only work with Microsoft products,
>and if possible only the LATEST and MOST EXPENSIVE Microsoft products,
>is usually overwhelming.

You're just as fuckin stupid as the person who wrote the shit in the
OP. I mean either you can step the fuck up and post actual examples
and situations in which ASP fails and PHP does not...or you can't.

Yer just another dumbfuck (ie blind Microsoft hater), no different
from the dumbfuck Mac humping flunkies or the dumbfuck Linux lovin ass
stains...all y'all are a bunch of fuckin retards plain and simple.
You base your NONpinions on trivial stupidity often directly linked to
your short between the keyboard and chair, blaming your stupidity on
Microsoft and grasping at anecdotal lames you slurped off some
tweenage muppet fuck run Webbie board. 10 times out 10 when someone
claims their problem is caused by Microsoft...it's really caused by
their own stupidity, usually because Microsoft didn't hold their
bumbling hand enough through the setup/installation or the system
their running is using crap ass factory seconds garbageware they
bought off eBay.

--

Onideus Mad Hatter
mhm ¹ x ¹
http://www.backwater-productions.net
http://www.backwater-productions.net/hatter-blog


Hatter Quotes
-------------
"You're only one of the best if you're striving to become one of the
best."

"I didn't make reality, Sunshine, I just verbally bitch slapped you
with it."

"I'm not a professional, I'm an artist."

"Your Usenet blinders are my best friend."

"Usenet Filters - Learn to shut yourself the fuck up!"

"Drugs killed Jesus you know...oh wait, no, that was the Jews, my
bad."

"There are clingy things in the grass...burrs 'n such...mmmm..."

"The more I learn the more I'm killing my idols."

"Is it wrong to incur and then use the hate ridden, vengeful stupidity
of complete strangers in random Usenet froups to further my art?"

"Freedom is only a concept, like race it's merely a social construct
that doesn't really exist outside of your ability to convince others
of its relevancy."

"Next time slow up a lil, then maybe you won't jump the gun and start
creamin yer panties before it's time to pop the champagne proper."

"Reality is directly proportionate to how creative you are."

"People are pretty fucking high on themselves if they think that
they're just born with a soul. *snicker*...yeah, like they're just
givin em out for free."

"Quible, quible said the Hare. Quite a lot of quibling...everywhere.
So the Hare took a long stare and decided at best, to leave the rest,
to their merry little mess."

"There's a difference between 'bad' and 'so earth shatteringly
horrible it makes the angels scream in terror as they violently rip
their heads off, their blood spraying into the faces of a thousand
sweet innocent horrified children, who will forever have the terrible
images burned into their tiny little minds'."

"How sad that you're such a poor judge of style that you can't even
properly gauge the artistic worth of your own efforts."

"Those who record history are those who control history."

"I am the living embodiment of hell itself in all its tormentive rage,
endless suffering, unfathomable pain and unending horror...but you
don't get sent to me...I come for you."

"Ideally in a fight I'd want a BGM-109A with a W80 250 kiloton
tactical thermonuclear fusion based war head."

"Tell me, would you describe yourself more as a process or a
function?"

"Apparently this group has got the market cornered on stupid.
Intelligence is down 137 points across the board and the forecast
indicates an increase in Webtv users."

"Is my .sig delimiter broken? Really? You're sure? Awww,
gee...that's too bad...for YOU!" `, )

Re: 10 Reasons Why PHP is Better than ASP

am 20.01.2008 12:28:48 von Onideus Mad Hatter

On Thu, 17 Jan 2008 17:21:10 +0100, Adam Frame
wrote:

>Do you get a kick out of insulting people on the internet? You, sir are
>in need of a mouthwash with a bar of soap. If you cannot contribute to a
>civilized discussion without swearing and insults then don't contribute
>at all.

Bumbles the newfag dipshit apparently forgot where he was again. Free
cl00, Newfag, nobody on Usenet gives a fuck about your psychological
deficiencies or how much your parents abused and molested you as a
child to make you feel dirty every time you hear a word like FUCK. If
you want some teddy bear picnic, hand holding, butt hugging, My Little
Pony fairy tale land you best retard the fuck on back to Webbie land
where a nice ban happy mod can shield your virgin eyes from all the
"horrors" of the big bad Usenet. In other words, yes, Usenet is the
sordid uncle that molested you as a child...cry now, Newfag...cry for
uncle Usenet. `, )

--

Onideus Mad Hatter
mhm ¹ x ¹
http://www.backwater-productions.net
http://www.backwater-productions.net/hatter-blog


Hatter Quotes
-------------
"You're only one of the best if you're striving to become one of the
best."

"I didn't make reality, Sunshine, I just verbally bitch slapped you
with it."

"I'm not a professional, I'm an artist."

"Your Usenet blinders are my best friend."

"Usenet Filters - Learn to shut yourself the fuck up!"

"Drugs killed Jesus you know...oh wait, no, that was the Jews, my
bad."

"There are clingy things in the grass...burrs 'n such...mmmm..."

"The more I learn the more I'm killing my idols."

"Is it wrong to incur and then use the hate ridden, vengeful stupidity
of complete strangers in random Usenet froups to further my art?"

"Freedom is only a concept, like race it's merely a social construct
that doesn't really exist outside of your ability to convince others
of its relevancy."

"Next time slow up a lil, then maybe you won't jump the gun and start
creamin yer panties before it's time to pop the champagne proper."

"Reality is directly proportionate to how creative you are."

"People are pretty fucking high on themselves if they think that
they're just born with a soul. *snicker*...yeah, like they're just
givin em out for free."

"Quible, quible said the Hare. Quite a lot of quibling...everywhere.
So the Hare took a long stare and decided at best, to leave the rest,
to their merry little mess."

"There's a difference between 'bad' and 'so earth shatteringly
horrible it makes the angels scream in terror as they violently rip
their heads off, their blood spraying into the faces of a thousand
sweet innocent horrified children, who will forever have the terrible
images burned into their tiny little minds'."

"How sad that you're such a poor judge of style that you can't even
properly gauge the artistic worth of your own efforts."

"Those who record history are those who control history."

"I am the living embodiment of hell itself in all its tormentive rage,
endless suffering, unfathomable pain and unending horror...but you
don't get sent to me...I come for you."

"Ideally in a fight I'd want a BGM-109A with a W80 250 kiloton
tactical thermonuclear fusion based war head."

"Tell me, would you describe yourself more as a process or a
function?"

"Apparently this group has got the market cornered on stupid.
Intelligence is down 137 points across the board and the forecast
indicates an increase in Webtv users."

"Is my .sig delimiter broken? Really? You're sure? Awww,
gee...that's too bad...for YOU!" `, )

Re: 10 Reasons Why PHP is Better than ASP

am 20.01.2008 12:28:48 von Onideus Mad Hatter

On Thu, 17 Jan 2008 17:21:10 +0100, Adam Frame
wrote:

>Do you get a kick out of insulting people on the internet? You, sir are
>in need of a mouthwash with a bar of soap. If you cannot contribute to a
>civilized discussion without swearing and insults then don't contribute
>at all.

Bumbles the newfag dipshit apparently forgot where he was again. Free
cl00, Newfag, nobody on Usenet gives a fuck about your psychological
deficiencies or how much your parents abused and molested you as a
child to make you feel dirty every time you hear a word like FUCK. If
you want some teddy bear picnic, hand holding, butt hugging, My Little
Pony fairy tale land you best retard the fuck on back to Webbie land
where a nice ban happy mod can shield your virgin eyes from all the
"horrors" of the big bad Usenet. In other words, yes, Usenet is the
sordid uncle that molested you as a child...cry now, Newfag...cry for
uncle Usenet. `, )

--

Onideus Mad Hatter
mhm ¹ x ¹
http://www.backwater-productions.net
http://www.backwater-productions.net/hatter-blog


Hatter Quotes
-------------
"You're only one of the best if you're striving to become one of the
best."

"I didn't make reality, Sunshine, I just verbally bitch slapped you
with it."

"I'm not a professional, I'm an artist."

"Your Usenet blinders are my best friend."

"Usenet Filters - Learn to shut yourself the fuck up!"

"Drugs killed Jesus you know...oh wait, no, that was the Jews, my
bad."

"There are clingy things in the grass...burrs 'n such...mmmm..."

"The more I learn the more I'm killing my idols."

"Is it wrong to incur and then use the hate ridden, vengeful stupidity
of complete strangers in random Usenet froups to further my art?"

"Freedom is only a concept, like race it's merely a social construct
that doesn't really exist outside of your ability to convince others
of its relevancy."

"Next time slow up a lil, then maybe you won't jump the gun and start
creamin yer panties before it's time to pop the champagne proper."

"Reality is directly proportionate to how creative you are."

"People are pretty fucking high on themselves if they think that
they're just born with a soul. *snicker*...yeah, like they're just
givin em out for free."

"Quible, quible said the Hare. Quite a lot of quibling...everywhere.
So the Hare took a long stare and decided at best, to leave the rest,
to their merry little mess."

"There's a difference between 'bad' and 'so earth shatteringly
horrible it makes the angels scream in terror as they violently rip
their heads off, their blood spraying into the faces of a thousand
sweet innocent horrified children, who will forever have the terrible
images burned into their tiny little minds'."

"How sad that you're such a poor judge of style that you can't even
properly gauge the artistic worth of your own efforts."

"Those who record history are those who control history."

"I am the living embodiment of hell itself in all its tormentive rage,
endless suffering, unfathomable pain and unending horror...but you
don't get sent to me...I come for you."

"Ideally in a fight I'd want a BGM-109A with a W80 250 kiloton
tactical thermonuclear fusion based war head."

"Tell me, would you describe yourself more as a process or a
function?"

"Apparently this group has got the market cornered on stupid.
Intelligence is down 137 points across the board and the forecast
indicates an increase in Webtv users."

"Is my .sig delimiter broken? Really? You're sure? Awww,
gee...that's too bad...for YOU!" `, )

Re: 10 Reasons Why PHP is Better than ASP

am 20.01.2008 12:28:48 von Onideus Mad Hatter

On Thu, 17 Jan 2008 17:21:10 +0100, Adam Frame
wrote:

>Do you get a kick out of insulting people on the internet? You, sir are
>in need of a mouthwash with a bar of soap. If you cannot contribute to a
>civilized discussion without swearing and insults then don't contribute
>at all.

Bumbles the newfag dipshit apparently forgot where he was again. Free
cl00, Newfag, nobody on Usenet gives a fuck about your psychological
deficiencies or how much your parents abused and molested you as a
child to make you feel dirty every time you hear a word like FUCK. If
you want some teddy bear picnic, hand holding, butt hugging, My Little
Pony fairy tale land you best retard the fuck on back to Webbie land
where a nice ban happy mod can shield your virgin eyes from all the
"horrors" of the big bad Usenet. In other words, yes, Usenet is the
sordid uncle that molested you as a child...cry now, Newfag...cry for
uncle Usenet. `, )

--

Onideus Mad Hatter
mhm ¹ x ¹
http://www.backwater-productions.net
http://www.backwater-productions.net/hatter-blog


Hatter Quotes
-------------
"You're only one of the best if you're striving to become one of the
best."

"I didn't make reality, Sunshine, I just verbally bitch slapped you
with it."

"I'm not a professional, I'm an artist."

"Your Usenet blinders are my best friend."

"Usenet Filters - Learn to shut yourself the fuck up!"

"Drugs killed Jesus you know...oh wait, no, that was the Jews, my
bad."

"There are clingy things in the grass...burrs 'n such...mmmm..."

"The more I learn the more I'm killing my idols."

"Is it wrong to incur and then use the hate ridden, vengeful stupidity
of complete strangers in random Usenet froups to further my art?"

"Freedom is only a concept, like race it's merely a social construct
that doesn't really exist outside of your ability to convince others
of its relevancy."

"Next time slow up a lil, then maybe you won't jump the gun and start
creamin yer panties before it's time to pop the champagne proper."

"Reality is directly proportionate to how creative you are."

"People are pretty fucking high on themselves if they think that
they're just born with a soul. *snicker*...yeah, like they're just
givin em out for free."

"Quible, quible said the Hare. Quite a lot of quibling...everywhere.
So the Hare took a long stare and decided at best, to leave the rest,
to their merry little mess."

"There's a difference between 'bad' and 'so earth shatteringly
horrible it makes the angels scream in terror as they violently rip
their heads off, their blood spraying into the faces of a thousand
sweet innocent horrified children, who will forever have the terrible
images burned into their tiny little minds'."

"How sad that you're such a poor judge of style that you can't even
properly gauge the artistic worth of your own efforts."

"Those who record history are those who control history."

"I am the living embodiment of hell itself in all its tormentive rage,
endless suffering, unfathomable pain and unending horror...but you
don't get sent to me...I come for you."

"Ideally in a fight I'd want a BGM-109A with a W80 250 kiloton
tactical thermonuclear fusion based war head."

"Tell me, would you describe yourself more as a process or a
function?"

"Apparently this group has got the market cornered on stupid.
Intelligence is down 137 points across the board and the forecast
indicates an increase in Webtv users."

"Is my .sig delimiter broken? Really? You're sure? Awww,
gee...that's too bad...for YOU!" `, )

Re: 10 Reasons Why PHP is Better than ASP

am 20.01.2008 12:33:24 von Onideus Mad Hatter

On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 09:40:32 +0100, Adam Frame
wrote:

>Steve wrote:
>> "Adam Frame" wrote in message
>> news:Ya2dna-v0czkHRLaRVn_vwA@giganews.com...
>>> Do you get a kick out of insulting people on the internet? You, sir are in
>>> need of a mouthwash with a bar of soap. If you cannot contribute to a
>>> civilized discussion without swearing and insults then don't contribute at
>>> all.
>>
>> first of all, 'mouthwash' is the generic term for a product used *TO* wash
>> one's mouth. i think you mean that i need my mouth washed with...that would
>> be 'in need of a mouth wash with...'
>>
>> the space is important. :)
>>
>>
>
>However nitpicking your response may seem, I did realise that once I had
>posted it and I thank you for your correction.
>
>Now back to the matter in hand, why is it that on the internet people
>find it more acceptable to swear, call people names and (god forbid)
>threaten others? I've never understood that.
>
>For me a much more damning response to a post you do not agree with is
>one which refutes each and every point you intend to without resorting
>to insults. You just debase your very own argument and make it much less
>likely that you get your point across.
>
>My 2 cents.

The thing you don't get Newfag, is that not everyone is a church going
Christian conservative fuckhead like you are. And yeah, if the only
people you hang out with in the real world are OTHER newfag Christian
conservative fuckheads like yourself...obviously yer not gonna hear
much "foul language" (as your parents beat you to think).

Unfortunately for you, Newfag, the Internet is made up of people ALL
over the world of ALL different walks of life, cultures, subcultures,
interests, etc, etc. And in a LOT of those communities, the ones a
newfag Christian conservative like yourself has no fuckin cl00 about,
yeah, "foul language" is very much the norm and isn't actually
considered "foul" at all...then again these are the people whose
parents DIDN'T beat and molest them into feeling sick and dirty every
time they hear a word like CUNT.

--

Onideus Mad Hatter
mhm ¹ x ¹
http://www.backwater-productions.net
http://www.backwater-productions.net/hatter-blog


Hatter Quotes
-------------
"You're only one of the best if you're striving to become one of the
best."

"I didn't make reality, Sunshine, I just verbally bitch slapped you
with it."

"I'm not a professional, I'm an artist."

"Your Usenet blinders are my best friend."

"Usenet Filters - Learn to shut yourself the fuck up!"

"Drugs killed Jesus you know...oh wait, no, that was the Jews, my
bad."

"There are clingy things in the grass...burrs 'n such...mmmm..."

"The more I learn the more I'm killing my idols."

"Is it wrong to incur and then use the hate ridden, vengeful stupidity
of complete strangers in random Usenet froups to further my art?"

"Freedom is only a concept, like race it's merely a social construct
that doesn't really exist outside of your ability to convince others
of its relevancy."

"Next time slow up a lil, then maybe you won't jump the gun and start
creamin yer panties before it's time to pop the champagne proper."

"Reality is directly proportionate to how creative you are."

"People are pretty fucking high on themselves if they think that
they're just born with a soul. *snicker*...yeah, like they're just
givin em out for free."

"Quible, quible said the Hare. Quite a lot of quibling...everywhere.
So the Hare took a long stare and decided at best, to leave the rest,
to their merry little mess."

"There's a difference between 'bad' and 'so earth shatteringly
horrible it makes the angels scream in terror as they violently rip
their heads off, their blood spraying into the faces of a thousand
sweet innocent horrified children, who will forever have the terrible
images burned into their tiny little minds'."

"How sad that you're such a poor judge of style that you can't even
properly gauge the artistic worth of your own efforts."

"Those who record history are those who control history."

"I am the living embodiment of hell itself in all its tormentive rage,
endless suffering, unfathomable pain and unending horror...but you
don't get sent to me...I come for you."

"Ideally in a fight I'd want a BGM-109A with a W80 250 kiloton
tactical thermonuclear fusion based war head."

"Tell me, would you describe yourself more as a process or a
function?"

"Apparently this group has got the market cornered on stupid.
Intelligence is down 137 points across the board and the forecast
indicates an increase in Webtv users."

"Is my .sig delimiter broken? Really? You're sure? Awww,
gee...that's too bad...for YOU!" `, )

Re: 10 Reasons Why PHP is Better than ASP

am 20.01.2008 12:33:24 von Onideus Mad Hatter

On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 09:40:32 +0100, Adam Frame
wrote:

>Steve wrote:
>> "Adam Frame" wrote in message
>> news:Ya2dna-v0czkHRLaRVn_vwA@giganews.com...
>>> Do you get a kick out of insulting people on the internet? You, sir are in
>>> need of a mouthwash with a bar of soap. If you cannot contribute to a
>>> civilized discussion without swearing and insults then don't contribute at
>>> all.
>>
>> first of all, 'mouthwash' is the generic term for a product used *TO* wash
>> one's mouth. i think you mean that i need my mouth washed with...that would
>> be 'in need of a mouth wash with...'
>>
>> the space is important. :)
>>
>>
>
>However nitpicking your response may seem, I did realise that once I had
>posted it and I thank you for your correction.
>
>Now back to the matter in hand, why is it that on the internet people
>find it more acceptable to swear, call people names and (god forbid)
>threaten others? I've never understood that.
>
>For me a much more damning response to a post you do not agree with is
>one which refutes each and every point you intend to without resorting
>to insults. You just debase your very own argument and make it much less
>likely that you get your point across.
>
>My 2 cents.

The thing you don't get Newfag, is that not everyone is a church going
Christian conservative fuckhead like you are. And yeah, if the only
people you hang out with in the real world are OTHER newfag Christian
conservative fuckheads like yourself...obviously yer not gonna hear
much "foul language" (as your parents beat you to think).

Unfortunately for you, Newfag, the Internet is made up of people ALL
over the world of ALL different walks of life, cultures, subcultures,
interests, etc, etc. And in a LOT of those communities, the ones a
newfag Christian conservative like yourself has no fuckin cl00 about,
yeah, "foul language" is very much the norm and isn't actually
considered "foul" at all...then again these are the people whose
parents DIDN'T beat and molest them into feeling sick and dirty every
time they hear a word like CUNT.

--

Onideus Mad Hatter
mhm ¹ x ¹
http://www.backwater-productions.net
http://www.backwater-productions.net/hatter-blog


Hatter Quotes
-------------
"You're only one of the best if you're striving to become one of the
best."

"I didn't make reality, Sunshine, I just verbally bitch slapped you
with it."

"I'm not a professional, I'm an artist."

"Your Usenet blinders are my best friend."

"Usenet Filters - Learn to shut yourself the fuck up!"

"Drugs killed Jesus you know...oh wait, no, that was the Jews, my
bad."

"There are clingy things in the grass...burrs 'n such...mmmm..."

"The more I learn the more I'm killing my idols."

"Is it wrong to incur and then use the hate ridden, vengeful stupidity
of complete strangers in random Usenet froups to further my art?"

"Freedom is only a concept, like race it's merely a social construct
that doesn't really exist outside of your ability to convince others
of its relevancy."

"Next time slow up a lil, then maybe you won't jump the gun and start
creamin yer panties before it's time to pop the champagne proper."

"Reality is directly proportionate to how creative you are."

"People are pretty fucking high on themselves if they think that
they're just born with a soul. *snicker*...yeah, like they're just
givin em out for free."

"Quible, quible said the Hare. Quite a lot of quibling...everywhere.
So the Hare took a long stare and decided at best, to leave the rest,
to their merry little mess."

"There's a difference between 'bad' and 'so earth shatteringly
horrible it makes the angels scream in terror as they violently rip
their heads off, their blood spraying into the faces of a thousand
sweet innocent horrified children, who will forever have the terrible
images burned into their tiny little minds'."

"How sad that you're such a poor judge of style that you can't even
properly gauge the artistic worth of your own efforts."

"Those who record history are those who control history."

"I am the living embodiment of hell itself in all its tormentive rage,
endless suffering, unfathomable pain and unending horror...but you
don't get sent to me...I come for you."

"Ideally in a fight I'd want a BGM-109A with a W80 250 kiloton
tactical thermonuclear fusion based war head."

"Tell me, would you describe yourself more as a process or a
function?"

"Apparently this group has got the market cornered on stupid.
Intelligence is down 137 points across the board and the forecast
indicates an increase in Webtv users."

"Is my .sig delimiter broken? Really? You're sure? Awww,
gee...that's too bad...for YOU!" `, )

Re: 10 Reasons Why PHP is Better than ASP

am 20.01.2008 12:33:24 von Onideus Mad Hatter

On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 09:40:32 +0100, Adam Frame
wrote:

>Steve wrote:
>> "Adam Frame" wrote in message
>> news:Ya2dna-v0czkHRLaRVn_vwA@giganews.com...
>>> Do you get a kick out of insulting people on the internet? You, sir are in
>>> need of a mouthwash with a bar of soap. If you cannot contribute to a
>>> civilized discussion without swearing and insults then don't contribute at
>>> all.
>>
>> first of all, 'mouthwash' is the generic term for a product used *TO* wash
>> one's mouth. i think you mean that i need my mouth washed with...that would
>> be 'in need of a mouth wash with...'
>>
>> the space is important. :)
>>
>>
>
>However nitpicking your response may seem, I did realise that once I had
>posted it and I thank you for your correction.
>
>Now back to the matter in hand, why is it that on the internet people
>find it more acceptable to swear, call people names and (god forbid)
>threaten others? I've never understood that.
>
>For me a much more damning response to a post you do not agree with is
>one which refutes each and every point you intend to without resorting
>to insults. You just debase your very own argument and make it much less
>likely that you get your point across.
>
>My 2 cents.

The thing you don't get Newfag, is that not everyone is a church going
Christian conservative fuckhead like you are. And yeah, if the only
people you hang out with in the real world are OTHER newfag Christian
conservative fuckheads like yourself...obviously yer not gonna hear
much "foul language" (as your parents beat you to think).

Unfortunately for you, Newfag, the Internet is made up of people ALL
over the world of ALL different walks of life, cultures, subcultures,
interests, etc, etc. And in a LOT of those communities, the ones a
newfag Christian conservative like yourself has no fuckin cl00 about,
yeah, "foul language" is very much the norm and isn't actually
considered "foul" at all...then again these are the people whose
parents DIDN'T beat and molest them into feeling sick and dirty every
time they hear a word like CUNT.

--

Onideus Mad Hatter
mhm ¹ x ¹
http://www.backwater-productions.net
http://www.backwater-productions.net/hatter-blog


Hatter Quotes
-------------
"You're only one of the best if you're striving to become one of the
best."

"I didn't make reality, Sunshine, I just verbally bitch slapped you
with it."

"I'm not a professional, I'm an artist."

"Your Usenet blinders are my best friend."

"Usenet Filters - Learn to shut yourself the fuck up!"

"Drugs killed Jesus you know...oh wait, no, that was the Jews, my
bad."

"There are clingy things in the grass...burrs 'n such...mmmm..."

"The more I learn the more I'm killing my idols."

"Is it wrong to incur and then use the hate ridden, vengeful stupidity
of complete strangers in random Usenet froups to further my art?"

"Freedom is only a concept, like race it's merely a social construct
that doesn't really exist outside of your ability to convince others
of its relevancy."

"Next time slow up a lil, then maybe you won't jump the gun and start
creamin yer panties before it's time to pop the champagne proper."

"Reality is directly proportionate to how creative you are."

"People are pretty fucking high on themselves if they think that
they're just born with a soul. *snicker*...yeah, like they're just
givin em out for free."

"Quible, quible said the Hare. Quite a lot of quibling...everywhere.
So the Hare took a long stare and decided at best, to leave the rest,
to their merry little mess."

"There's a difference between 'bad' and 'so earth shatteringly
horrible it makes the angels scream in terror as they violently rip
their heads off, their blood spraying into the faces of a thousand
sweet innocent horrified children, who will forever have the terrible
images burned into their tiny little minds'."

"How sad that you're such a poor judge of style that you can't even
properly gauge the artistic worth of your own efforts."

"Those who record history are those who control history."

"I am the living embodiment of hell itself in all its tormentive rage,
endless suffering, unfathomable pain and unending horror...but you
don't get sent to me...I come for you."

"Ideally in a fight I'd want a BGM-109A with a W80 250 kiloton
tactical thermonuclear fusion based war head."

"Tell me, would you describe yourself more as a process or a
function?"

"Apparently this group has got the market cornered on stupid.
Intelligence is down 137 points across the board and the forecast
indicates an increase in Webtv users."

"Is my .sig delimiter broken? Really? You're sure? Awww,
gee...that's too bad...for YOU!" `, )

Re: 10 Reasons Why PHP is Better than ASP

am 21.01.2008 10:29:40 von Adam Frame

Onideus Mad Hatter wrote:
> On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 09:40:32 +0100, Adam Frame
> wrote:
>
>> Steve wrote:
>>> "Adam Frame" wrote in message
>>> news:Ya2dna-v0czkHRLaRVn_vwA@giganews.com...
>>>> Do you get a kick out of insulting people on the internet? You, sir are in
>>>> need of a mouthwash with a bar of soap. If you cannot contribute to a
>>>> civilized discussion without swearing and insults then don't contribute at
>>>> all.
>>> first of all, 'mouthwash' is the generic term for a product used *TO* wash
>>> one's mouth. i think you mean that i need my mouth washed with...that would
>>> be 'in need of a mouth wash with...'
>>>
>>> the space is important. :)
>>>
>>>
>> However nitpicking your response may seem, I did realise that once I had
>> posted it and I thank you for your correction.
>>
>> Now back to the matter in hand, why is it that on the internet people
>> find it more acceptable to swear, call people names and (god forbid)
>> threaten others? I've never understood that.
>>
>> For me a much more damning response to a post you do not agree with is
>> one which refutes each and every point you intend to without resorting
>> to insults. You just debase your very own argument and make it much less
>> likely that you get your point across.
>>
>> My 2 cents.
>
> The thing you don't get Newfag, is that not everyone is a church going
> Christian conservative fuckhead like you are. And yeah, if the only
> people you hang out with in the real world are OTHER newfag Christian
> conservative fuckheads like yourself...obviously yer not gonna hear
> much "foul language" (as your parents beat you to think).
>
> Unfortunately for you, Newfag, the Internet is made up of people ALL
> over the world of ALL different walks of life, cultures, subcultures,
> interests, etc, etc. And in a LOT of those communities, the ones a
> newfag Christian conservative like yourself has no fuckin cl00 about,
> yeah, "foul language" is very much the norm and isn't actually
> considered "foul" at all...then again these are the people whose
> parents DIDN'T beat and molest them into feeling sick and dirty every
> time they hear a word like CUNT.
>
> --
>
> Onideus Mad Hatter
> mhm ¹ x ¹
> http://www.backwater-productions.net
> http://www.backwater-productions.net/hatter-blog
>
>
> Hatter Quotes
> -------------
> "You're only one of the best if you're striving to become one of the
> best."
>
> "I didn't make reality, Sunshine, I just verbally bitch slapped you
> with it."
>
> "I'm not a professional, I'm an artist."
>
> "Your Usenet blinders are my best friend."
>
> "Usenet Filters - Learn to shut yourself the fuck up!"
>
> "Drugs killed Jesus you know...oh wait, no, that was the Jews, my
> bad."
>
> "There are clingy things in the grass...burrs 'n such...mmmm..."
>
> "The more I learn the more I'm killing my idols."
>
> "Is it wrong to incur and then use the hate ridden, vengeful stupidity
> of complete strangers in random Usenet froups to further my art?"
>
> "Freedom is only a concept, like race it's merely a social construct
> that doesn't really exist outside of your ability to convince others
> of its relevancy."
>
> "Next time slow up a lil, then maybe you won't jump the gun and start
> creamin yer panties before it's time to pop the champagne proper."
>
> "Reality is directly proportionate to how creative you are."
>
> "People are pretty fucking high on themselves if they think that
> they're just born with a soul. *snicker*...yeah, like they're just
> givin em out for free."
>
> "Quible, quible said the Hare. Quite a lot of quibling...everywhere.
> So the Hare took a long stare and decided at best, to leave the rest,
> to their merry little mess."
>
> "There's a difference between 'bad' and 'so earth shatteringly
> horrible it makes the angels scream in terror as they violently rip
> their heads off, their blood spraying into the faces of a thousand
> sweet innocent horrified children, who will forever have the terrible
> images burned into their tiny little minds'."
>
> "How sad that you're such a poor judge of style that you can't even
> properly gauge the artistic worth of your own efforts."
>
> "Those who record history are those who control history."
>
> "I am the living embodiment of hell itself in all its tormentive rage,
> endless suffering, unfathomable pain and unending horror...but you
> don't get sent to me...I come for you."
>
> "Ideally in a fight I'd want a BGM-109A with a W80 250 kiloton
> tactical thermonuclear fusion based war head."
>
> "Tell me, would you describe yourself more as a process or a
> function?"
>
> "Apparently this group has got the market cornered on stupid.
> Intelligence is down 137 points across the board and the forecast
> indicates an increase in Webtv users."
>
> "Is my .sig delimiter broken? Really? You're sure? Awww,
> gee...that's too bad...for YOU!" `, )

¡Me cago en la leche de tu madre! ¡Hijo de puta, cabrón!
¡Plasta de mierda, maricón! (es como hablan en *mi* comunidad)

You see, Oh mighty keyboard warrior!, I have no aversion to swearing or
insults. I do not, however, see a point to them in a work-related newsgroup.

Now, reread your post and tell yourself that you sound like anything but
a bitter, fat, spotty 14 year old who lives in his mothers basement.

Re: 10 Reasons Why PHP is Better than ASP

am 21.01.2008 10:29:40 von Adam Frame

Onideus Mad Hatter wrote:
> On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 09:40:32 +0100, Adam Frame
> wrote:
>
>> Steve wrote:
>>> "Adam Frame" wrote in message
>>> news:Ya2dna-v0czkHRLaRVn_vwA@giganews.com...
>>>> Do you get a kick out of insulting people on the internet? You, sir are in
>>>> need of a mouthwash with a bar of soap. If you cannot contribute to a
>>>> civilized discussion without swearing and insults then don't contribute at
>>>> all.
>>> first of all, 'mouthwash' is the generic term for a product used *TO* wash
>>> one's mouth. i think you mean that i need my mouth washed with...that would
>>> be 'in need of a mouth wash with...'
>>>
>>> the space is important. :)
>>>
>>>
>> However nitpicking your response may seem, I did realise that once I had
>> posted it and I thank you for your correction.
>>
>> Now back to the matter in hand, why is it that on the internet people
>> find it more acceptable to swear, call people names and (god forbid)
>> threaten others? I've never understood that.
>>
>> For me a much more damning response to a post you do not agree with is
>> one which refutes each and every point you intend to without resorting
>> to insults. You just debase your very own argument and make it much less
>> likely that you get your point across.
>>
>> My 2 cents.
>
> The thing you don't get Newfag, is that not everyone is a church going
> Christian conservative fuckhead like you are. And yeah, if the only
> people you hang out with in the real world are OTHER newfag Christian
> conservative fuckheads like yourself...obviously yer not gonna hear
> much "foul language" (as your parents beat you to think).
>
> Unfortunately for you, Newfag, the Internet is made up of people ALL
> over the world of ALL different walks of life, cultures, subcultures,
> interests, etc, etc. And in a LOT of those communities, the ones a
> newfag Christian conservative like yourself has no fuckin cl00 about,
> yeah, "foul language" is very much the norm and isn't actually
> considered "foul" at all...then again these are the people whose
> parents DIDN'T beat and molest them into feeling sick and dirty every
> time they hear a word like CUNT.
>
> --
>
> Onideus Mad Hatter
> mhm ¹ x ¹
> http://www.backwater-productions.net
> http://www.backwater-productions.net/hatter-blog
>
>
> Hatter Quotes
> -------------
> "You're only one of the best if you're striving to become one of the
> best."
>
> "I didn't make reality, Sunshine, I just verbally bitch slapped you
> with it."
>
> "I'm not a professional, I'm an artist."
>
> "Your Usenet blinders are my best friend."
>
> "Usenet Filters - Learn to shut yourself the fuck up!"
>
> "Drugs killed Jesus you know...oh wait, no, that was the Jews, my
> bad."
>
> "There are clingy things in the grass...burrs 'n such...mmmm..."
>
> "The more I learn the more I'm killing my idols."
>
> "Is it wrong to incur and then use the hate ridden, vengeful stupidity
> of complete strangers in random Usenet froups to further my art?"
>
> "Freedom is only a concept, like race it's merely a social construct
> that doesn't really exist outside of your ability to convince others
> of its relevancy."
>
> "Next time slow up a lil, then maybe you won't jump the gun and start
> creamin yer panties before it's time to pop the champagne proper."
>
> "Reality is directly proportionate to how creative you are."
>
> "People are pretty fucking high on themselves if they think that
> they're just born with a soul. *snicker*...yeah, like they're just
> givin em out for free."
>
> "Quible, quible said the Hare. Quite a lot of quibling...everywhere.
> So the Hare took a long stare and decided at best, to leave the rest,
> to their merry little mess."
>
> "There's a difference between 'bad' and 'so earth shatteringly
> horrible it makes the angels scream in terror as they violently rip
> their heads off, their blood spraying into the faces of a thousand
> sweet innocent horrified children, who will forever have the terrible
> images burned into their tiny little minds'."
>
> "How sad that you're such a poor judge of style that you can't even
> properly gauge the artistic worth of your own efforts."
>
> "Those who record history are those who control history."
>
> "I am the living embodiment of hell itself in all its tormentive rage,
> endless suffering, unfathomable pain and unending horror...but you
> don't get sent to me...I come for you."
>
> "Ideally in a fight I'd want a BGM-109A with a W80 250 kiloton
> tactical thermonuclear fusion based war head."
>
> "Tell me, would you describe yourself more as a process or a
> function?"
>
> "Apparently this group has got the market cornered on stupid.
> Intelligence is down 137 points across the board and the forecast
> indicates an increase in Webtv users."
>
> "Is my .sig delimiter broken? Really? You're sure? Awww,
> gee...that's too bad...for YOU!" `, )

¡Me cago en la leche de tu madre! ¡Hijo de puta, cabrón!
¡Plasta de mierda, maricón! (es como hablan en *mi* comunidad)

You see, Oh mighty keyboard warrior!, I have no aversion to swearing or
insults. I do not, however, see a point to them in a work-related newsgroup.

Now, reread your post and tell yourself that you sound like anything but
a bitter, fat, spotty 14 year old who lives in his mothers basement.

Re: 10 Reasons Why PHP is Better than ASP

am 21.01.2008 10:29:40 von Adam Frame

Onideus Mad Hatter wrote:
> On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 09:40:32 +0100, Adam Frame
> wrote:
>
>> Steve wrote:
>>> "Adam Frame" wrote in message
>>> news:Ya2dna-v0czkHRLaRVn_vwA@giganews.com...
>>>> Do you get a kick out of insulting people on the internet? You, sir are in
>>>> need of a mouthwash with a bar of soap. If you cannot contribute to a
>>>> civilized discussion without swearing and insults then don't contribute at
>>>> all.
>>> first of all, 'mouthwash' is the generic term for a product used *TO* wash
>>> one's mouth. i think you mean that i need my mouth washed with...that would
>>> be 'in need of a mouth wash with...'
>>>
>>> the space is important. :)
>>>
>>>
>> However nitpicking your response may seem, I did realise that once I had
>> posted it and I thank you for your correction.
>>
>> Now back to the matter in hand, why is it that on the internet people
>> find it more acceptable to swear, call people names and (god forbid)
>> threaten others? I've never understood that.
>>
>> For me a much more damning response to a post you do not agree with is
>> one which refutes each and every point you intend to without resorting
>> to insults. You just debase your very own argument and make it much less
>> likely that you get your point across.
>>
>> My 2 cents.
>
> The thing you don't get Newfag, is that not everyone is a church going
> Christian conservative fuckhead like you are. And yeah, if the only
> people you hang out with in the real world are OTHER newfag Christian
> conservative fuckheads like yourself...obviously yer not gonna hear
> much "foul language" (as your parents beat you to think).
>
> Unfortunately for you, Newfag, the Internet is made up of people ALL
> over the world of ALL different walks of life, cultures, subcultures,
> interests, etc, etc. And in a LOT of those communities, the ones a
> newfag Christian conservative like yourself has no fuckin cl00 about,
> yeah, "foul language" is very much the norm and isn't actually
> considered "foul" at all...then again these are the people whose
> parents DIDN'T beat and molest them into feeling sick and dirty every
> time they hear a word like CUNT.
>
> --
>
> Onideus Mad Hatter
> mhm ¹ x ¹
> http://www.backwater-productions.net
> http://www.backwater-productions.net/hatter-blog
>
>
> Hatter Quotes
> -------------
> "You're only one of the best if you're striving to become one of the
> best."
>
> "I didn't make reality, Sunshine, I just verbally bitch slapped you
> with it."
>
> "I'm not a professional, I'm an artist."
>
> "Your Usenet blinders are my best friend."
>
> "Usenet Filters - Learn to shut yourself the fuck up!"
>
> "Drugs killed Jesus you know...oh wait, no, that was the Jews, my
> bad."
>
> "There are clingy things in the grass...burrs 'n such...mmmm..."
>
> "The more I learn the more I'm killing my idols."
>
> "Is it wrong to incur and then use the hate ridden, vengeful stupidity
> of complete strangers in random Usenet froups to further my art?"
>
> "Freedom is only a concept, like race it's merely a social construct
> that doesn't really exist outside of your ability to convince others
> of its relevancy."
>
> "Next time slow up a lil, then maybe you won't jump the gun and start
> creamin yer panties before it's time to pop the champagne proper."
>
> "Reality is directly proportionate to how creative you are."
>
> "People are pretty fucking high on themselves if they think that
> they're just born with a soul. *snicker*...yeah, like they're just
> givin em out for free."
>
> "Quible, quible said the Hare. Quite a lot of quibling...everywhere.
> So the Hare took a long stare and decided at best, to leave the rest,
> to their merry little mess."
>
> "There's a difference between 'bad' and 'so earth shatteringly
> horrible it makes the angels scream in terror as they violently rip
> their heads off, their blood spraying into the faces of a thousand
> sweet innocent horrified children, who will forever have the terrible
> images burned into their tiny little minds'."
>
> "How sad that you're such a poor judge of style that you can't even
> properly gauge the artistic worth of your own efforts."
>
> "Those who record history are those who control history."
>
> "I am the living embodiment of hell itself in all its tormentive rage,
> endless suffering, unfathomable pain and unending horror...but you
> don't get sent to me...I come for you."
>
> "Ideally in a fight I'd want a BGM-109A with a W80 250 kiloton
> tactical thermonuclear fusion based war head."
>
> "Tell me, would you describe yourself more as a process or a
> function?"
>
> "Apparently this group has got the market cornered on stupid.
> Intelligence is down 137 points across the board and the forecast
> indicates an increase in Webtv users."
>
> "Is my .sig delimiter broken? Really? You're sure? Awww,
> gee...that's too bad...for YOU!" `, )

¡Me cago en la leche de tu madre! ¡Hijo de puta, cabrón!
¡Plasta de mierda, maricón! (es como hablan en *mi* comunidad)

You see, Oh mighty keyboard warrior!, I have no aversion to swearing or
insults. I do not, however, see a point to them in a work-related newsgroup.

Now, reread your post and tell yourself that you sound like anything but
a bitter, fat, spotty 14 year old who lives in his mothers basement.

Re: 10 Reasons Why PHP is Better than ASP

am 21.01.2008 16:21:16 von 23s

[snip]

> You see, Oh mighty keyboard warrior!, I have no aversion to swearing or
> insults. I do not, however, see a point to them in a work-related
> newsgroup.
>
> Now, reread your post and tell yourself that you sound like anything but a
> bitter, fat, spotty 14 year old who lives in his mothers basement.

Yup, and whenever I read his posts I can't get this guy's voice out of my
head:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comic_Book_Guy. Sample quote: "Comic Book Guy
is obese, nerdy, hairy and perhaps best known for his sarcastic quips."

Maybe when he's finally fired for posting to usenet all day instead of
working (assuming he has a job), he could get a job with the Simpsons. At
least then he'd be contributing to the rest of society is some small,
pathetic, meaningless way. But please... for the love of God... DON'T let
him do any WRITING.

....sits back and waits for potty-mouth to respond.... *yawn*...

Re: 10 Reasons Why PHP is Better than ASP

am 25.01.2008 22:54:07 von Steve

"Adam Frame" wrote in message
news:CtKdnfRlOf5ilQ7aRVn_vwA@giganews.com...
> Steve wrote:
>> "Adam Frame" wrote in message
>> news:Ya2dna-v0czkHRLaRVn_vwA@giganews.com...
>>> Do you get a kick out of insulting people on the internet? You, sir are
>>> in need of a mouthwash with a bar of soap. If you cannot contribute to a
>>> civilized discussion without swearing and insults then don't contribute
>>> at all.
>>
>> first of all, 'mouthwash' is the generic term for a product used *TO*
>> wash one's mouth. i think you mean that i need my mouth washed
>> with...that would be 'in need of a mouth wash with...'
>>
>> the space is important. :)
>
> However nitpicking your response may seem, I did realise that once I had
> posted it and I thank you for your correction.

good. now if you could just muster a smile...i was playing with you!

> Now back to the matter in hand, why is it that on the internet people find
> it more acceptable to swear, call people names and (god forbid) threaten
> others? I've never understood that.

i'm not 'swearing'. i'm using words that could be immediately considered
offensive. grow up. the intent behind words are more offensive than those
used in declaring them. 'bad' words are simply words. i have a large
vocabulary and refuse to limit my use of any because of some religous or
social moray.

and, i don't threaten anyone...whether on the net, or in person. if i mean
someone harm, i simply inflict it. it is counter-productive to announce my
intentions to the object of my attentions.

> For me a much more damning response to a post you do not agree with is one
> which refutes each and every point you intend to without resorting to
> insults. You just debase your very own argument and make it much less
> likely that you get your point across.

yes, that's worth about 0.02. none of that applies on usenet. very few argue
this way. if you notice, i do argue point/counter-point/refutation. note
also that whatever language i use, the facts i present stand on their own.
as for 'debase'...that seems a bit wordy for you. :)

Re: 10 Reasons Why PHP is Better than ASP

am 25.01.2008 22:54:07 von Steve

"Adam Frame" wrote in message
news:CtKdnfRlOf5ilQ7aRVn_vwA@giganews.com...
> Steve wrote:
>> "Adam Frame" wrote in message
>> news:Ya2dna-v0czkHRLaRVn_vwA@giganews.com...
>>> Do you get a kick out of insulting people on the internet? You, sir are
>>> in need of a mouthwash with a bar of soap. If you cannot contribute to a
>>> civilized discussion without swearing and insults then don't contribute
>>> at all.
>>
>> first of all, 'mouthwash' is the generic term for a product used *TO*
>> wash one's mouth. i think you mean that i need my mouth washed
>> with...that would be 'in need of a mouth wash with...'
>>
>> the space is important. :)
>
> However nitpicking your response may seem, I did realise that once I had
> posted it and I thank you for your correction.

good. now if you could just muster a smile...i was playing with you!

> Now back to the matter in hand, why is it that on the internet people find
> it more acceptable to swear, call people names and (god forbid) threaten
> others? I've never understood that.

i'm not 'swearing'. i'm using words that could be immediately considered
offensive. grow up. the intent behind words are more offensive than those
used in declaring them. 'bad' words are simply words. i have a large
vocabulary and refuse to limit my use of any because of some religous or
social moray.

and, i don't threaten anyone...whether on the net, or in person. if i mean
someone harm, i simply inflict it. it is counter-productive to announce my
intentions to the object of my attentions.

> For me a much more damning response to a post you do not agree with is one
> which refutes each and every point you intend to without resorting to
> insults. You just debase your very own argument and make it much less
> likely that you get your point across.

yes, that's worth about 0.02. none of that applies on usenet. very few argue
this way. if you notice, i do argue point/counter-point/refutation. note
also that whatever language i use, the facts i present stand on their own.
as for 'debase'...that seems a bit wordy for you. :)

Re: 10 Reasons Why PHP is Better than ASP

am 25.01.2008 22:54:07 von Steve

"Adam Frame" wrote in message
news:CtKdnfRlOf5ilQ7aRVn_vwA@giganews.com...
> Steve wrote:
>> "Adam Frame" wrote in message
>> news:Ya2dna-v0czkHRLaRVn_vwA@giganews.com...
>>> Do you get a kick out of insulting people on the internet? You, sir are
>>> in need of a mouthwash with a bar of soap. If you cannot contribute to a
>>> civilized discussion without swearing and insults then don't contribute
>>> at all.
>>
>> first of all, 'mouthwash' is the generic term for a product used *TO*
>> wash one's mouth. i think you mean that i need my mouth washed
>> with...that would be 'in need of a mouth wash with...'
>>
>> the space is important. :)
>
> However nitpicking your response may seem, I did realise that once I had
> posted it and I thank you for your correction.

good. now if you could just muster a smile...i was playing with you!

> Now back to the matter in hand, why is it that on the internet people find
> it more acceptable to swear, call people names and (god forbid) threaten
> others? I've never understood that.

i'm not 'swearing'. i'm using words that could be immediately considered
offensive. grow up. the intent behind words are more offensive than those
used in declaring them. 'bad' words are simply words. i have a large
vocabulary and refuse to limit my use of any because of some religous or
social moray.

and, i don't threaten anyone...whether on the net, or in person. if i mean
someone harm, i simply inflict it. it is counter-productive to announce my
intentions to the object of my attentions.

> For me a much more damning response to a post you do not agree with is one
> which refutes each and every point you intend to without resorting to
> insults. You just debase your very own argument and make it much less
> likely that you get your point across.

yes, that's worth about 0.02. none of that applies on usenet. very few argue
this way. if you notice, i do argue point/counter-point/refutation. note
also that whatever language i use, the facts i present stand on their own.
as for 'debase'...that seems a bit wordy for you. :)

Re: 10 Reasons Why PHP is Better than ASP

am 25.01.2008 23:01:46 von Steve

"Adam Frame" wrote in message
news:lPqdnUgiSuyf-wna4p2dnAA@giganews.com...
> Onideus Mad Hatter wrote:
>> On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 09:40:32 +0100, Adam Frame
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Steve wrote:
>>>> "Adam Frame" wrote in message
>>>> news:Ya2dna-v0czkHRLaRVn_vwA@giganews.com...
>>>>> Do you get a kick out of insulting people on the internet? You, sir
>>>>> are in need of a mouthwash with a bar of soap. If you cannot
>>>>> contribute to a civilized discussion without swearing and insults then
>>>>> don't contribute at all.
>>>> first of all, 'mouthwash' is the generic term for a product used *TO*
>>>> wash one's mouth. i think you mean that i need my mouth washed
>>>> with...that would be 'in need of a mouth wash with...'
>>>>
>>>> the space is important. :)
>>>>
>>> However nitpicking your response may seem, I did realise that once I had
>>> posted it and I thank you for your correction.
>>>
>>> Now back to the matter in hand, why is it that on the internet people
>>> find it more acceptable to swear, call people names and (god forbid)
>>> threaten others? I've never understood that.
>>>
>>> For me a much more damning response to a post you do not agree with is
>>> one which refutes each and every point you intend to without resorting
>>> to insults. You just debase your very own argument and make it much less
>>> likely that you get your point across.
>>>
>>> My 2 cents.
>>
>> The thing you don't get Newfag, is that not everyone is a church going
>> Christian conservative fuckhead like you are. And yeah, if the only
>> people you hang out with in the real world are OTHER newfag Christian
>> conservative fuckheads like yourself...obviously yer not gonna hear
>> much "foul language" (as your parents beat you to think).
>>
>> Unfortunately for you, Newfag, the Internet is made up of people ALL
>> over the world of ALL different walks of life, cultures, subcultures,
>> interests, etc, etc. And in a LOT of those communities, the ones a
>> newfag Christian conservative like yourself has no fuckin cl00 about,
>> yeah, "foul language" is very much the norm and isn't actually
>> considered "foul" at all...then again these are the people whose
>> parents DIDN'T beat and molest them into feeling sick and dirty every
>> time they hear a word like CUNT.
>>
>> --
>>
>> Onideus Mad Hatter
>> mhm ¹ x ¹
>> http://www.backwater-productions.net
>> http://www.backwater-productions.net/hatter-blog
>>
>>
>> Hatter Quotes
>> -------------
>> "You're only one of the best if you're striving to become one of the
>> best."
>>
>> "I didn't make reality, Sunshine, I just verbally bitch slapped you with
>> it."
>>
>> "I'm not a professional, I'm an artist."
>>
>> "Your Usenet blinders are my best friend."
>>
>> "Usenet Filters - Learn to shut yourself the fuck up!"
>>
>> "Drugs killed Jesus you know...oh wait, no, that was the Jews, my
>> bad."
>>
>> "There are clingy things in the grass...burrs 'n such...mmmm..."
>>
>> "The more I learn the more I'm killing my idols."
>>
>> "Is it wrong to incur and then use the hate ridden, vengeful stupidity
>> of complete strangers in random Usenet froups to further my art?"
>>
>> "Freedom is only a concept, like race it's merely a social construct that
>> doesn't really exist outside of your ability to convince others of its
>> relevancy."
>>
>> "Next time slow up a lil, then maybe you won't jump the gun and start
>> creamin yer panties before it's time to pop the champagne proper."
>>
>> "Reality is directly proportionate to how creative you are."
>>
>> "People are pretty fucking high on themselves if they think that they're
>> just born with a soul. *snicker*...yeah, like they're just givin em out
>> for free."
>>
>> "Quible, quible said the Hare. Quite a lot of quibling...everywhere. So
>> the Hare took a long stare and decided at best, to leave the rest, to
>> their merry little mess."
>>
>> "There's a difference between 'bad' and 'so earth shatteringly horrible
>> it makes the angels scream in terror as they violently rip their heads
>> off, their blood spraying into the faces of a thousand sweet innocent
>> horrified children, who will forever have the terrible images burned into
>> their tiny little minds'."
>>
>> "How sad that you're such a poor judge of style that you can't even
>> properly gauge the artistic worth of your own efforts."
>>
>> "Those who record history are those who control history."
>>
>> "I am the living embodiment of hell itself in all its tormentive rage,
>> endless suffering, unfathomable pain and unending horror...but you don't
>> get sent to me...I come for you."
>>
>> "Ideally in a fight I'd want a BGM-109A with a W80 250 kiloton tactical
>> thermonuclear fusion based war head."
>>
>> "Tell me, would you describe yourself more as a process or a function?"
>> "Apparently this group has got the market cornered on stupid.
>> Intelligence is down 137 points across the board and the forecast
>> indicates an increase in Webtv users."
>>
>> "Is my .sig delimiter broken? Really? You're sure? Awww, gee...that's
>> too bad...for YOU!" `, )
>
> ¡Me cago en la leche de tu madre! ¡Hijo de puta, cabrón!
> ¡Plasta de mierda, maricón! (es como hablan en *mi* comunidad)

and this is impressive how? and yes, that's about how it sounds in my
'comunidad'...tambien. next.

> You see, Oh mighty keyboard warrior!, I have no aversion to swearing or
> insults. I do not, however, see a point to them in a work-related
> newsgroup.

it's not work-related. it's php related, but not work-related.

among omh's many faults, making large assumptions - incorrectly - is his
forte (pronounced correctly as 'fort' :) wtf was his rant about xtians?
where'd that come from?


> Now, reread your post and tell yourself that you sound like anything but a
> bitter, fat, spotty 14 year old who lives in his mothers basement.

actually, truth be known, he's 29 this (afaik)...and, yes, he does live with
his mother. only, i think he keeps her down there. btw, all his 'real world'
experience in programming comes from working the cash register at walmart.
no, i'm not making any of that up.

Re: 10 Reasons Why PHP is Better than ASP

am 25.01.2008 23:01:46 von Steve

"Adam Frame" wrote in message
news:lPqdnUgiSuyf-wna4p2dnAA@giganews.com...
> Onideus Mad Hatter wrote:
>> On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 09:40:32 +0100, Adam Frame
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Steve wrote:
>>>> "Adam Frame" wrote in message
>>>> news:Ya2dna-v0czkHRLaRVn_vwA@giganews.com...
>>>>> Do you get a kick out of insulting people on the internet? You, sir
>>>>> are in need of a mouthwash with a bar of soap. If you cannot
>>>>> contribute to a civilized discussion without swearing and insults then
>>>>> don't contribute at all.
>>>> first of all, 'mouthwash' is the generic term for a product used *TO*
>>>> wash one's mouth. i think you mean that i need my mouth washed
>>>> with...that would be 'in need of a mouth wash with...'
>>>>
>>>> the space is important. :)
>>>>
>>> However nitpicking your response may seem, I did realise that once I had
>>> posted it and I thank you for your correction.
>>>
>>> Now back to the matter in hand, why is it that on the internet people
>>> find it more acceptable to swear, call people names and (god forbid)
>>> threaten others? I've never understood that.
>>>
>>> For me a much more damning response to a post you do not agree with is
>>> one which refutes each and every point you intend to without resorting
>>> to insults. You just debase your very own argument and make it much less
>>> likely that you get your point across.
>>>
>>> My 2 cents.
>>
>> The thing you don't get Newfag, is that not everyone is a church going
>> Christian conservative fuckhead like you are. And yeah, if the only
>> people you hang out with in the real world are OTHER newfag Christian
>> conservative fuckheads like yourself...obviously yer not gonna hear
>> much "foul language" (as your parents beat you to think).
>>
>> Unfortunately for you, Newfag, the Internet is made up of people ALL
>> over the world of ALL different walks of life, cultures, subcultures,
>> interests, etc, etc. And in a LOT of those communities, the ones a
>> newfag Christian conservative like yourself has no fuckin cl00 about,
>> yeah, "foul language" is very much the norm and isn't actually
>> considered "foul" at all...then again these are the people whose
>> parents DIDN'T beat and molest them into feeling sick and dirty every
>> time they hear a word like CUNT.
>>
>> --
>>
>> Onideus Mad Hatter
>> mhm ¹ x ¹
>> http://www.backwater-productions.net
>> http://www.backwater-productions.net/hatter-blog
>>
>>
>> Hatter Quotes
>> -------------
>> "You're only one of the best if you're striving to become one of the
>> best."
>>
>> "I didn't make reality, Sunshine, I just verbally bitch slapped you with
>> it."
>>
>> "I'm not a professional, I'm an artist."
>>
>> "Your Usenet blinders are my best friend."
>>
>> "Usenet Filters - Learn to shut yourself the fuck up!"
>>
>> "Drugs killed Jesus you know...oh wait, no, that was the Jews, my
>> bad."
>>
>> "There are clingy things in the grass...burrs 'n such...mmmm..."
>>
>> "The more I learn the more I'm killing my idols."
>>
>> "Is it wrong to incur and then use the hate ridden, vengeful stupidity
>> of complete strangers in random Usenet froups to further my art?"
>>
>> "Freedom is only a concept, like race it's merely a social construct that
>> doesn't really exist outside of your ability to convince others of its
>> relevancy."
>>
>> "Next time slow up a lil, then maybe you won't jump the gun and start
>> creamin yer panties before it's time to pop the champagne proper."
>>
>> "Reality is directly proportionate to how creative you are."
>>
>> "People are pretty fucking high on themselves if they think that they're
>> just born with a soul. *snicker*...yeah, like they're just givin em out
>> for free."
>>
>> "Quible, quible said the Hare. Quite a lot of quibling...everywhere. So
>> the Hare took a long stare and decided at best, to leave the rest, to
>> their merry little mess."
>>
>> "There's a difference between 'bad' and 'so earth shatteringly horrible
>> it makes the angels scream in terror as they violently rip their heads
>> off, their blood spraying into the faces of a thousand sweet innocent
>> horrified children, who will forever have the terrible images burned into
>> their tiny little minds'."
>>
>> "How sad that you're such a poor judge of style that you can't even
>> properly gauge the artistic worth of your own efforts."
>>
>> "Those who record history are those who control history."
>>
>> "I am the living embodiment of hell itself in all its tormentive rage,
>> endless suffering, unfathomable pain and unending horror...but you don't
>> get sent to me...I come for you."
>>
>> "Ideally in a fight I'd want a BGM-109A with a W80 250 kiloton tactical
>> thermonuclear fusion based war head."
>>
>> "Tell me, would you describe yourself more as a process or a function?"
>> "Apparently this group has got the market cornered on stupid.
>> Intelligence is down 137 points across the board and the forecast
>> indicates an increase in Webtv users."
>>
>> "Is my .sig delimiter broken? Really? You're sure? Awww, gee...that's
>> too bad...for YOU!" `, )
>
> ¡Me cago en la leche de tu madre! ¡Hijo de puta, cabrón!
> ¡Plasta de mierda, maricón! (es como hablan en *mi* comunidad)

and this is impressive how? and yes, that's about how it sounds in my
'comunidad'...tambien. next.

> You see, Oh mighty keyboard warrior!, I have no aversion to swearing or
> insults. I do not, however, see a point to them in a work-related
> newsgroup.

it's not work-related. it's php related, but not work-related.

among omh's many faults, making large assumptions - incorrectly - is his
forte (pronounced correctly as 'fort' :) wtf was his rant about xtians?
where'd that come from?


> Now, reread your post and tell yourself that you sound like anything but a
> bitter, fat, spotty 14 year old who lives in his mothers basement.

actually, truth be known, he's 29 this (afaik)...and, yes, he does live with
his mother. only, i think he keeps her down there. btw, all his 'real world'
experience in programming comes from working the cash register at walmart.
no, i'm not making any of that up.

Re: 10 Reasons Why PHP is Better than ASP

am 25.01.2008 23:01:46 von Steve

"Adam Frame" wrote in message
news:lPqdnUgiSuyf-wna4p2dnAA@giganews.com...
> Onideus Mad Hatter wrote:
>> On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 09:40:32 +0100, Adam Frame
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Steve wrote:
>>>> "Adam Frame" wrote in message
>>>> news:Ya2dna-v0czkHRLaRVn_vwA@giganews.com...
>>>>> Do you get a kick out of insulting people on the internet? You, sir
>>>>> are in need of a mouthwash with a bar of soap. If you cannot
>>>>> contribute to a civilized discussion without swearing and insults then
>>>>> don't contribute at all.
>>>> first of all, 'mouthwash' is the generic term for a product used *TO*
>>>> wash one's mouth. i think you mean that i need my mouth washed
>>>> with...that would be 'in need of a mouth wash with...'
>>>>
>>>> the space is important. :)
>>>>
>>> However nitpicking your response may seem, I did realise that once I had
>>> posted it and I thank you for your correction.
>>>
>>> Now back to the matter in hand, why is it that on the internet people
>>> find it more acceptable to swear, call people names and (god forbid)
>>> threaten others? I've never understood that.
>>>
>>> For me a much more damning response to a post you do not agree with is
>>> one which refutes each and every point you intend to without resorting
>>> to insults. You just debase your very own argument and make it much less
>>> likely that you get your point across.
>>>
>>> My 2 cents.
>>
>> The thing you don't get Newfag, is that not everyone is a church going
>> Christian conservative fuckhead like you are. And yeah, if the only
>> people you hang out with in the real world are OTHER newfag Christian
>> conservative fuckheads like yourself...obviously yer not gonna hear
>> much "foul language" (as your parents beat you to think).
>>
>> Unfortunately for you, Newfag, the Internet is made up of people ALL
>> over the world of ALL different walks of life, cultures, subcultures,
>> interests, etc, etc. And in a LOT of those communities, the ones a
>> newfag Christian conservative like yourself has no fuckin cl00 about,
>> yeah, "foul language" is very much the norm and isn't actually
>> considered "foul" at all...then again these are the people whose
>> parents DIDN'T beat and molest them into feeling sick and dirty every
>> time they hear a word like CUNT.
>>
>> --
>>
>> Onideus Mad Hatter
>> mhm ¹ x ¹
>> http://www.backwater-productions.net
>> http://www.backwater-productions.net/hatter-blog
>>
>>
>> Hatter Quotes
>> -------------
>> "You're only one of the best if you're striving to become one of the
>> best."
>>
>> "I didn't make reality, Sunshine, I just verbally bitch slapped you with
>> it."
>>
>> "I'm not a professional, I'm an artist."
>>
>> "Your Usenet blinders are my best friend."
>>
>> "Usenet Filters - Learn to shut yourself the fuck up!"
>>
>> "Drugs killed Jesus you know...oh wait, no, that was the Jews, my
>> bad."
>>
>> "There are clingy things in the grass...burrs 'n such...mmmm..."
>>
>> "The more I learn the more I'm killing my idols."
>>
>> "Is it wrong to incur and then use the hate ridden, vengeful stupidity
>> of complete strangers in random Usenet froups to further my art?"
>>
>> "Freedom is only a concept, like race it's merely a social construct that
>> doesn't really exist outside of your ability to convince others of its
>> relevancy."
>>
>> "Next time slow up a lil, then maybe you won't jump the gun and start
>> creamin yer panties before it's time to pop the champagne proper."
>>
>> "Reality is directly proportionate to how creative you are."
>>
>> "People are pretty fucking high on themselves if they think that they're
>> just born with a soul. *snicker*...yeah, like they're just givin em out
>> for free."
>>
>> "Quible, quible said the Hare. Quite a lot of quibling...everywhere. So
>> the Hare took a long stare and decided at best, to leave the rest, to
>> their merry little mess."
>>
>> "There's a difference between 'bad' and 'so earth shatteringly horrible
>> it makes the angels scream in terror as they violently rip their heads
>> off, their blood spraying into the faces of a thousand sweet innocent
>> horrified children, who will forever have the terrible images burned into
>> their tiny little minds'."
>>
>> "How sad that you're such a poor judge of style that you can't even
>> properly gauge the artistic worth of your own efforts."
>>
>> "Those who record history are those who control history."
>>
>> "I am the living embodiment of hell itself in all its tormentive rage,
>> endless suffering, unfathomable pain and unending horror...but you don't
>> get sent to me...I come for you."
>>
>> "Ideally in a fight I'd want a BGM-109A with a W80 250 kiloton tactical
>> thermonuclear fusion based war head."
>>
>> "Tell me, would you describe yourself more as a process or a function?"
>> "Apparently this group has got the market cornered on stupid.
>> Intelligence is down 137 points across the board and the forecast
>> indicates an increase in Webtv users."
>>
>> "Is my .sig delimiter broken? Really? You're sure? Awww, gee...that's
>> too bad...for YOU!" `, )
>
> ¡Me cago en la leche de tu madre! ¡Hijo de puta, cabrón!
> ¡Plasta de mierda, maricón! (es como hablan en *mi* comunidad)

and this is impressive how? and yes, that's about how it sounds in my
'comunidad'...tambien. next.

> You see, Oh mighty keyboard warrior!, I have no aversion to swearing or
> insults. I do not, however, see a point to them in a work-related
> newsgroup.

it's not work-related. it's php related, but not work-related.

among omh's many faults, making large assumptions - incorrectly - is his
forte (pronounced correctly as 'fort' :) wtf was his rant about xtians?
where'd that come from?


> Now, reread your post and tell yourself that you sound like anything but a
> bitter, fat, spotty 14 year old who lives in his mothers basement.

actually, truth be known, he's 29 this (afaik)...and, yes, he does live with
his mother. only, i think he keeps her down there. btw, all his 'real world'
experience in programming comes from working the cash register at walmart.
no, i'm not making any of that up.

Re: 10 Reasons Why PHP is Better than ASP

am 26.01.2008 07:29:54 von Floor

Steve:

> if you have no clue as to the technology against which you are making
> comparisons, how the fuck can you expect to be taken seriously?!!!
> further,
> how can you ever expect to pick the right tool for the job...which is
> COMPLETELY what makes one better than the other! it's all relative to
> changing factors that you don't even consider, troll.

define 'better'
Floor

Re: 10 Reasons Why PHP is Better than ASP

am 26.01.2008 07:29:54 von Floor

Steve:

> if you have no clue as to the technology against which you are making
> comparisons, how the fuck can you expect to be taken seriously?!!!
> further,
> how can you ever expect to pick the right tool for the job...which is
> COMPLETELY what makes one better than the other! it's all relative to
> changing factors that you don't even consider, troll.

define 'better'
Floor

Re: 10 Reasons Why PHP is Better than ASP

am 26.01.2008 07:29:54 von Floor

Steve:

> if you have no clue as to the technology against which you are making
> comparisons, how the fuck can you expect to be taken seriously?!!!
> further,
> how can you ever expect to pick the right tool for the job...which is
> COMPLETELY what makes one better than the other! it's all relative to
> changing factors that you don't even consider, troll.

define 'better'
Floor

Re: 10 Reasons Why PHP is Better than ASP

am 26.01.2008 12:42:24 von Courtney

Floor wrote:
> Steve:
>
>> if you have no clue as to the technology against which you are making
>> comparisons, how the fuck can you expect to be taken seriously?!!!
>> further,
>> how can you ever expect to pick the right tool for the job...which is
>> COMPLETELY what makes one better than the other! it's all relative to
>> changing factors that you don't even consider, troll.
>
> define 'better'
> Floor
>
>
He didn't get to 'meanings of words' yet in grade III.

Re: 10 Reasons Why PHP is Better than ASP

am 26.01.2008 12:42:24 von Courtney

Floor wrote:
> Steve:
>
>> if you have no clue as to the technology against which you are making
>> comparisons, how the fuck can you expect to be taken seriously?!!!
>> further,
>> how can you ever expect to pick the right tool for the job...which is
>> COMPLETELY what makes one better than the other! it's all relative to
>> changing factors that you don't even consider, troll.
>
> define 'better'
> Floor
>
>
He didn't get to 'meanings of words' yet in grade III.

Re: 10 Reasons Why PHP is Better than ASP

am 26.01.2008 12:42:24 von Courtney

Floor wrote:
> Steve:
>
>> if you have no clue as to the technology against which you are making
>> comparisons, how the fuck can you expect to be taken seriously?!!!
>> further,
>> how can you ever expect to pick the right tool for the job...which is
>> COMPLETELY what makes one better than the other! it's all relative to
>> changing factors that you don't even consider, troll.
>
> define 'better'
> Floor
>
>
He didn't get to 'meanings of words' yet in grade III.

Re: 10 Reasons Why PHP is Better than ASP

am 26.01.2008 16:28:57 von Steve

"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
news:1201347744.55497.2@iris.uk.clara.net...
> Floor wrote:
>> Steve:
>>
>>> if you have no clue as to the technology against which you are making
>>> comparisons, how the fuck can you expect to be taken seriously?!!!
>>> further,
>>> how can you ever expect to pick the right tool for the job...which is
>>> COMPLETELY what makes one better than the other! it's all relative to
>>> changing factors that you don't even consider, troll.
>>
>> define 'better'
>> Floor
> He didn't get to 'meanings of words' yet in grade III.

lol. yet, in grade 3, 'relative' means that 'better' changes meaning under
each circumstance. 'better' in that light, would mean the tool that best
fits the accomplishment of the task at hand...which is a complete
re-iteration of what i'd said before. we, in grade 3, read with
comprehension.

cheers, phil.

Re: 10 Reasons Why PHP is Better than ASP

am 26.01.2008 16:28:57 von Steve

"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
news:1201347744.55497.2@iris.uk.clara.net...
> Floor wrote:
>> Steve:
>>
>>> if you have no clue as to the technology against which you are making
>>> comparisons, how the fuck can you expect to be taken seriously?!!!
>>> further,
>>> how can you ever expect to pick the right tool for the job...which is
>>> COMPLETELY what makes one better than the other! it's all relative to
>>> changing factors that you don't even consider, troll.
>>
>> define 'better'
>> Floor
> He didn't get to 'meanings of words' yet in grade III.

lol. yet, in grade 3, 'relative' means that 'better' changes meaning under
each circumstance. 'better' in that light, would mean the tool that best
fits the accomplishment of the task at hand...which is a complete
re-iteration of what i'd said before. we, in grade 3, read with
comprehension.

cheers, phil.

Re: 10 Reasons Why PHP is Better than ASP

am 26.01.2008 16:28:57 von Steve

"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
news:1201347744.55497.2@iris.uk.clara.net...
> Floor wrote:
>> Steve:
>>
>>> if you have no clue as to the technology against which you are making
>>> comparisons, how the fuck can you expect to be taken seriously?!!!
>>> further,
>>> how can you ever expect to pick the right tool for the job...which is
>>> COMPLETELY what makes one better than the other! it's all relative to
>>> changing factors that you don't even consider, troll.
>>
>> define 'better'
>> Floor
> He didn't get to 'meanings of words' yet in grade III.

lol. yet, in grade 3, 'relative' means that 'better' changes meaning under
each circumstance. 'better' in that light, would mean the tool that best
fits the accomplishment of the task at hand...which is a complete
re-iteration of what i'd said before. we, in grade 3, read with
comprehension.

cheers, phil.

Re: 10 Reasons Why PHP is Better than ASP

am 29.01.2008 13:25:10 von Serious

"Steve" wrote:

[speaking of Onideus Mad Hatter]
>actually, truth be known, he's 29 this (afaik)...and, yes, he does live
>with his mother. only, i think he keeps her down there. btw, all his
>'real world' experience in programming comes from working the cash
>register at walmart. no, i'm not making any of that up.

Damn, what a pathetic loser. Well, that figures, since he did sound like
a loser.

Re: 10 Reasons Why PHP is Better than ASP

am 29.01.2008 13:25:10 von Serious

"Steve" wrote:

[speaking of Onideus Mad Hatter]
>actually, truth be known, he's 29 this (afaik)...and, yes, he does live
>with his mother. only, i think he keeps her down there. btw, all his
>'real world' experience in programming comes from working the cash
>register at walmart. no, i'm not making any of that up.

Damn, what a pathetic loser. Well, that figures, since he did sound like
a loser.

Re: 10 Reasons Why PHP is Better than ASP

am 29.01.2008 13:25:10 von Serious

"Steve" wrote:

[speaking of Onideus Mad Hatter]
>actually, truth be known, he's 29 this (afaik)...and, yes, he does live
>with his mother. only, i think he keeps her down there. btw, all his
>'real world' experience in programming comes from working the cash
>register at walmart. no, i'm not making any of that up.

Damn, what a pathetic loser. Well, that figures, since he did sound like
a loser.

Re: 10 Reasons Why PHP is Better than ASP

am 01.02.2008 19:27:53 von Onideus Mad Hatter

On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 16:01:46 -0600, "Steve"
wrote:

>
>"Adam Frame" wrote in message
>news:lPqdnUgiSuyf-wna4p2dnAA@giganews.com...
>> Onideus Mad Hatter wrote:
>>> On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 09:40:32 +0100, Adam Frame
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Steve wrote:
>>>>> "Adam Frame" wrote in message
>>>>> news:Ya2dna-v0czkHRLaRVn_vwA@giganews.com...
>>>>>> Do you get a kick out of insulting people on the internet? You, sir
>>>>>> are in need of a mouthwash with a bar of soap. If you cannot
>>>>>> contribute to a civilized discussion without swearing and insults then
>>>>>> don't contribute at all.
>>>>> first of all, 'mouthwash' is the generic term for a product used *TO*
>>>>> wash one's mouth. i think you mean that i need my mouth washed
>>>>> with...that would be 'in need of a mouth wash with...'
>>>>>
>>>>> the space is important. :)
>>>>>
>>>> However nitpicking your response may seem, I did realise that once I had
>>>> posted it and I thank you for your correction.
>>>>
>>>> Now back to the matter in hand, why is it that on the internet people
>>>> find it more acceptable to swear, call people names and (god forbid)
>>>> threaten others? I've never understood that.
>>>>
>>>> For me a much more damning response to a post you do not agree with is
>>>> one which refutes each and every point you intend to without resorting
>>>> to insults. You just debase your very own argument and make it much less
>>>> likely that you get your point across.
>>>>
>>>> My 2 cents.
>>>
>>> The thing you don't get Newfag, is that not everyone is a church going
>>> Christian conservative fuckhead like you are. And yeah, if the only
>>> people you hang out with in the real world are OTHER newfag Christian
>>> conservative fuckheads like yourself...obviously yer not gonna hear
>>> much "foul language" (as your parents beat you to think).
>>>
>>> Unfortunately for you, Newfag, the Internet is made up of people ALL
>>> over the world of ALL different walks of life, cultures, subcultures,
>>> interests, etc, etc. And in a LOT of those communities, the ones a
>>> newfag Christian conservative like yourself has no fuckin cl00 about,
>>> yeah, "foul language" is very much the norm and isn't actually
>>> considered "foul" at all...then again these are the people whose
>>> parents DIDN'T beat and molest them into feeling sick and dirty every
>>> time they hear a word like CUNT.
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Onideus Mad Hatter
>>> mhm ¹ x ¹
>>> http://www.backwater-productions.net
>>> http://www.backwater-productions.net/hatter-blog
>>>
>>>
>>> Hatter Quotes
>>> -------------
>>> "You're only one of the best if you're striving to become one of the
>>> best."
>>>
>>> "I didn't make reality, Sunshine, I just verbally bitch slapped you with
>>> it."
>>>
>>> "I'm not a professional, I'm an artist."
>>>
>>> "Your Usenet blinders are my best friend."
>>>
>>> "Usenet Filters - Learn to shut yourself the fuck up!"
>>>
>>> "Drugs killed Jesus you know...oh wait, no, that was the Jews, my
>>> bad."
>>>
>>> "There are clingy things in the grass...burrs 'n such...mmmm..."
>>>
>>> "The more I learn the more I'm killing my idols."
>>>
>>> "Is it wrong to incur and then use the hate ridden, vengeful stupidity
>>> of complete strangers in random Usenet froups to further my art?"
>>>
>>> "Freedom is only a concept, like race it's merely a social construct that
>>> doesn't really exist outside of your ability to convince others of its
>>> relevancy."
>>>
>>> "Next time slow up a lil, then maybe you won't jump the gun and start
>>> creamin yer panties before it's time to pop the champagne proper."
>>>
>>> "Reality is directly proportionate to how creative you are."
>>>
>>> "People are pretty fucking high on themselves if they think that they're
>>> just born with a soul. *snicker*...yeah, like they're just givin em out
>>> for free."
>>>
>>> "Quible, quible said the Hare. Quite a lot of quibling...everywhere. So
>>> the Hare took a long stare and decided at best, to leave the rest, to
>>> their merry little mess."
>>>
>>> "There's a difference between 'bad' and 'so earth shatteringly horrible
>>> it makes the angels scream in terror as they violently rip their heads
>>> off, their blood spraying into the faces of a thousand sweet innocent
>>> horrified children, who will forever have the terrible images burned into
>>> their tiny little minds'."
>>>
>>> "How sad that you're such a poor judge of style that you can't even
>>> properly gauge the artistic worth of your own efforts."
>>>
>>> "Those who record history are those who control history."
>>>
>>> "I am the living embodiment of hell itself in all its tormentive rage,
>>> endless suffering, unfathomable pain and unending horror...but you don't
>>> get sent to me...I come for you."
>>>
>>> "Ideally in a fight I'd want a BGM-109A with a W80 250 kiloton tactical
>>> thermonuclear fusion based war head."
>>>
>>> "Tell me, would you describe yourself more as a process or a function?"
>>> "Apparently this group has got the market cornered on stupid.
>>> Intelligence is down 137 points across the board and the forecast
>>> indicates an increase in Webtv users."
>>>
>>> "Is my .sig delimiter broken? Really? You're sure? Awww, gee...that's
>>> too bad...for YOU!" `, )
>>
>> ¡Me cago en la leche de tu madre! ¡Hijo de puta, cabrón!
>> ¡Plasta de mierda, maricón! (es como hablan en *mi* comunidad)
>
>and this is impressive how? and yes, that's about how it sounds in my
>'comunidad'...tambien. next.
>
>> You see, Oh mighty keyboard warrior!, I have no aversion to swearing or
>> insults. I do not, however, see a point to them in a work-related
>> newsgroup.
>
>it's not work-related. it's php related, but not work-related.
>
>among omh's many faults, making large assumptions - incorrectly - is his
>forte (pronounced correctly as 'fort' :) wtf was his rant about xtians?
>where'd that come from?
>
>
>> Now, reread your post and tell yourself that you sound like anything but a
>> bitter, fat, spotty 14 year old who lives in his mothers basement.
>
>actually, truth be known, he's 29 this (afaik)...and, yes, he does live with
>his mother. only, i think he keeps her down there. btw, all his 'real world'
>experience in programming comes from working the cash register at walmart.
>no, i'm not making any of that up.

Your butt hurtz is showing Stevie. You wanna have yerself a lil cry
and try flailing for lames a lil more? *snicker* I could be a gawd
damn garbage collector and I'd still have more programming experience
in my left pinky finger than you'll ever have in your entire
fuckwitted, meandering little inconsequential existence. You're just
a stupid ass loser who got slapped across the face one too many times
by your betters and it's made you all bitter and pissy.

PS - all your "facts" are completely the fuck wrong. For one I'm 27,
two I don't "live with my mother", I own my own house you fuckin
retard and at Wal*Mart I'm an inventory control specialist which is a
fuck of a lot more than you've ever managed to accomplish workin over
at Mickey Ds, Bumbles.

--

Onideus Mad Hatter
mhm ¹ x ¹
http://www.backwater-productions.net
http://www.backwater-productions.net/hatter-blog


Hatter Quotes
-------------
"You're only one of the best if you're striving to become one of the
best."

"I didn't make reality, Sunshine, I just verbally bitch slapped you
with it."

"I'm not a professional, I'm an artist."

"Your Usenet blinders are my best friend."

"Usenet Filters - Learn to shut yourself the fuck up!"

"Drugs killed Jesus you know...oh wait, no, that was the Jews, my
bad."

"There are clingy things in the grass...burrs 'n such...mmmm..."

"The more I learn the more I'm killing my idols."

"Is it wrong to incur and then use the hate ridden, vengeful stupidity
of complete strangers in random Usenet froups to further my art?"

"Freedom is only a concept, like race it's merely a social construct
that doesn't really exist outside of your ability to convince others
of its relevancy."

"Next time slow up a lil, then maybe you won't jump the gun and start
creamin yer panties before it's time to pop the champagne proper."

"Reality is directly proportionate to how creative you are."

"People are pretty fucking high on themselves if they think that
they're just born with a soul. *snicker*...yeah, like they're just
givin em out for free."

"Quible, quible said the Hare. Quite a lot of quibling...everywhere.
So the Hare took a long stare and decided at best, to leave the rest,
to their merry little mess."

"There's a difference between 'bad' and 'so earth shatteringly
horrible it makes the angels scream in terror as they violently rip
their heads off, their blood spraying into the faces of a thousand
sweet innocent horrified children, who will forever have the terrible
images burned into their tiny little minds'."

"How sad that you're such a poor judge of style that you can't even
properly gauge the artistic worth of your own efforts."

"Those who record history are those who control history."

"I am the living embodiment of hell itself in all its tormentive rage,
endless suffering, unfathomable pain and unending horror...but you
don't get sent to me...I come for you."

"Ideally in a fight I'd want a BGM-109A with a W80 250 kiloton
tactical thermonuclear fusion based war head."

"Tell me, would you describe yourself more as a process or a
function?"

"Apparently this group has got the market cornered on stupid.
Intelligence is down 137 points across the board and the forecast
indicates an increase in Webtv users."

"Is my .sig delimiter broken? Really? You're sure? Awww,
gee...that's too bad...for YOU!" `, )

Re: 10 Reasons Why PHP is Better than ASP

am 01.02.2008 19:27:53 von Onideus Mad Hatter

On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 16:01:46 -0600, "Steve"
wrote:

>
>"Adam Frame" wrote in message
>news:lPqdnUgiSuyf-wna4p2dnAA@giganews.com...
>> Onideus Mad Hatter wrote:
>>> On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 09:40:32 +0100, Adam Frame
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Steve wrote:
>>>>> "Adam Frame" wrote in message
>>>>> news:Ya2dna-v0czkHRLaRVn_vwA@giganews.com...
>>>>>> Do you get a kick out of insulting people on the internet? You, sir
>>>>>> are in need of a mouthwash with a bar of soap. If you cannot
>>>>>> contribute to a civilized discussion without swearing and insults then
>>>>>> don't contribute at all.
>>>>> first of all, 'mouthwash' is the generic term for a product used *TO*
>>>>> wash one's mouth. i think you mean that i need my mouth washed
>>>>> with...that would be 'in need of a mouth wash with...'
>>>>>
>>>>> the space is important. :)
>>>>>
>>>> However nitpicking your response may seem, I did realise that once I had
>>>> posted it and I thank you for your correction.
>>>>
>>>> Now back to the matter in hand, why is it that on the internet people
>>>> find it more acceptable to swear, call people names and (god forbid)
>>>> threaten others? I've never understood that.
>>>>
>>>> For me a much more damning response to a post you do not agree with is
>>>> one which refutes each and every point you intend to without resorting
>>>> to insults. You just debase your very own argument and make it much less
>>>> likely that you get your point across.
>>>>
>>>> My 2 cents.
>>>
>>> The thing you don't get Newfag, is that not everyone is a church going
>>> Christian conservative fuckhead like you are. And yeah, if the only
>>> people you hang out with in the real world are OTHER newfag Christian
>>> conservative fuckheads like yourself...obviously yer not gonna hear
>>> much "foul language" (as your parents beat you to think).
>>>
>>> Unfortunately for you, Newfag, the Internet is made up of people ALL
>>> over the world of ALL different walks of life, cultures, subcultures,
>>> interests, etc, etc. And in a LOT of those communities, the ones a
>>> newfag Christian conservative like yourself has no fuckin cl00 about,
>>> yeah, "foul language" is very much the norm and isn't actually
>>> considered "foul" at all...then again these are the people whose
>>> parents DIDN'T beat and molest them into feeling sick and dirty every
>>> time they hear a word like CUNT.
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Onideus Mad Hatter
>>> mhm ¹ x ¹
>>> http://www.backwater-productions.net
>>> http://www.backwater-productions.net/hatter-blog
>>>
>>>
>>> Hatter Quotes
>>> -------------
>>> "You're only one of the best if you're striving to become one of the
>>> best."
>>>
>>> "I didn't make reality, Sunshine, I just verbally bitch slapped you with
>>> it."
>>>
>>> "I'm not a professional, I'm an artist."
>>>
>>> "Your Usenet blinders are my best friend."
>>>
>>> "Usenet Filters - Learn to shut yourself the fuck up!"
>>>
>>> "Drugs killed Jesus you know...oh wait, no, that was the Jews, my
>>> bad."
>>>
>>> "There are clingy things in the grass...burrs 'n such...mmmm..."
>>>
>>> "The more I learn the more I'm killing my idols."
>>>
>>> "Is it wrong to incur and then use the hate ridden, vengeful stupidity
>>> of complete strangers in random Usenet froups to further my art?"
>>>
>>> "Freedom is only a concept, like race it's merely a social construct that
>>> doesn't really exist outside of your ability to convince others of its
>>> relevancy."
>>>
>>> "Next time slow up a lil, then maybe you won't jump the gun and start
>>> creamin yer panties before it's time to pop the champagne proper."
>>>
>>> "Reality is directly proportionate to how creative you are."
>>>
>>> "People are pretty fucking high on themselves if they think that they're
>>> just born with a soul. *snicker*...yeah, like they're just givin em out
>>> for free."
>>>
>>> "Quible, quible said the Hare. Quite a lot of quibling...everywhere. So
>>> the Hare took a long stare and decided at best, to leave the rest, to
>>> their merry little mess."
>>>
>>> "There's a difference between 'bad' and 'so earth shatteringly horrible
>>> it makes the angels scream in terror as they violently rip their heads
>>> off, their blood spraying into the faces of a thousand sweet innocent
>>> horrified children, who will forever have the terrible images burned into
>>> their tiny little minds'."
>>>
>>> "How sad that you're such a poor judge of style that you can't even
>>> properly gauge the artistic worth of your own efforts."
>>>
>>> "Those who record history are those who control history."
>>>
>>> "I am the living embodiment of hell itself in all its tormentive rage,
>>> endless suffering, unfathomable pain and unending horror...but you don't
>>> get sent to me...I come for you."
>>>
>>> "Ideally in a fight I'd want a BGM-109A with a W80 250 kiloton tactical
>>> thermonuclear fusion based war head."
>>>
>>> "Tell me, would you describe yourself more as a process or a function?"
>>> "Apparently this group has got the market cornered on stupid.
>>> Intelligence is down 137 points across the board and the forecast
>>> indicates an increase in Webtv users."
>>>
>>> "Is my .sig delimiter broken? Really? You're sure? Awww, gee...that's
>>> too bad...for YOU!" `, )
>>
>> ¡Me cago en la leche de tu madre! ¡Hijo de puta, cabrón!
>> ¡Plasta de mierda, maricón! (es como hablan en *mi* comunidad)
>
>and this is impressive how? and yes, that's about how it sounds in my
>'comunidad'...tambien. next.
>
>> You see, Oh mighty keyboard warrior!, I have no aversion to swearing or
>> insults. I do not, however, see a point to them in a work-related
>> newsgroup.
>
>it's not work-related. it's php related, but not work-related.
>
>among omh's many faults, making large assumptions - incorrectly - is his
>forte (pronounced correctly as 'fort' :) wtf was his rant about xtians?
>where'd that come from?
>
>
>> Now, reread your post and tell yourself that you sound like anything but a
>> bitter, fat, spotty 14 year old who lives in his mothers basement.
>
>actually, truth be known, he's 29 this (afaik)...and, yes, he does live with
>his mother. only, i think he keeps her down there. btw, all his 'real world'
>experience in programming comes from working the cash register at walmart.
>no, i'm not making any of that up.

Your butt hurtz is showing Stevie. You wanna have yerself a lil cry
and try flailing for lames a lil more? *snicker* I could be a gawd
damn garbage collector and I'd still have more programming experience
in my left pinky finger than you'll ever have in your entire
fuckwitted, meandering little inconsequential existence. You're just
a stupid ass loser who got slapped across the face one too many times
by your betters and it's made you all bitter and pissy.

PS - all your "facts" are completely the fuck wrong. For one I'm 27,
two I don't "live with my mother", I own my own house you fuckin
retard and at Wal*Mart I'm an inventory control specialist which is a
fuck of a lot more than you've ever managed to accomplish workin over
at Mickey Ds, Bumbles.

--

Onideus Mad Hatter
mhm ¹ x ¹
http://www.backwater-productions.net
http://www.backwater-productions.net/hatter-blog


Hatter Quotes
-------------
"You're only one of the best if you're striving to become one of the
best."

"I didn't make reality, Sunshine, I just verbally bitch slapped you
with it."

"I'm not a professional, I'm an artist."

"Your Usenet blinders are my best friend."

"Usenet Filters - Learn to shut yourself the fuck up!"

"Drugs killed Jesus you know...oh wait, no, that was the Jews, my
bad."

"There are clingy things in the grass...burrs 'n such...mmmm..."

"The more I learn the more I'm killing my idols."

"Is it wrong to incur and then use the hate ridden, vengeful stupidity
of complete strangers in random Usenet froups to further my art?"

"Freedom is only a concept, like race it's merely a social construct
that doesn't really exist outside of your ability to convince others
of its relevancy."

"Next time slow up a lil, then maybe you won't jump the gun and start
creamin yer panties before it's time to pop the champagne proper."

"Reality is directly proportionate to how creative you are."

"People are pretty fucking high on themselves if they think that
they're just born with a soul. *snicker*...yeah, like they're just
givin em out for free."

"Quible, quible said the Hare. Quite a lot of quibling...everywhere.
So the Hare took a long stare and decided at best, to leave the rest,
to their merry little mess."

"There's a difference between 'bad' and 'so earth shatteringly
horrible it makes the angels scream in terror as they violently rip
their heads off, their blood spraying into the faces of a thousand
sweet innocent horrified children, who will forever have the terrible
images burned into their tiny little minds'."

"How sad that you're such a poor judge of style that you can't even
properly gauge the artistic worth of your own efforts."

"Those who record history are those who control history."

"I am the living embodiment of hell itself in all its tormentive rage,
endless suffering, unfathomable pain and unending horror...but you
don't get sent to me...I come for you."

"Ideally in a fight I'd want a BGM-109A with a W80 250 kiloton
tactical thermonuclear fusion based war head."

"Tell me, would you describe yourself more as a process or a
function?"

"Apparently this group has got the market cornered on stupid.
Intelligence is down 137 points across the board and the forecast
indicates an increase in Webtv users."

"Is my .sig delimiter broken? Really? You're sure? Awww,
gee...that's too bad...for YOU!" `, )

Re: 10 Reasons Why PHP is Better than ASP

am 01.02.2008 19:27:53 von Onideus Mad Hatter

On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 16:01:46 -0600, "Steve"
wrote:

>
>"Adam Frame" wrote in message
>news:lPqdnUgiSuyf-wna4p2dnAA@giganews.com...
>> Onideus Mad Hatter wrote:
>>> On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 09:40:32 +0100, Adam Frame
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Steve wrote:
>>>>> "Adam Frame" wrote in message
>>>>> news:Ya2dna-v0czkHRLaRVn_vwA@giganews.com...
>>>>>> Do you get a kick out of insulting people on the internet? You, sir
>>>>>> are in need of a mouthwash with a bar of soap. If you cannot
>>>>>> contribute to a civilized discussion without swearing and insults then
>>>>>> don't contribute at all.
>>>>> first of all, 'mouthwash' is the generic term for a product used *TO*
>>>>> wash one's mouth. i think you mean that i need my mouth washed
>>>>> with...that would be 'in need of a mouth wash with...'
>>>>>
>>>>> the space is important. :)
>>>>>
>>>> However nitpicking your response may seem, I did realise that once I had
>>>> posted it and I thank you for your correction.
>>>>
>>>> Now back to the matter in hand, why is it that on the internet people
>>>> find it more acceptable to swear, call people names and (god forbid)
>>>> threaten others? I've never understood that.
>>>>
>>>> For me a much more damning response to a post you do not agree with is
>>>> one which refutes each and every point you intend to without resorting
>>>> to insults. You just debase your very own argument and make it much less
>>>> likely that you get your point across.
>>>>
>>>> My 2 cents.
>>>
>>> The thing you don't get Newfag, is that not everyone is a church going
>>> Christian conservative fuckhead like you are. And yeah, if the only
>>> people you hang out with in the real world are OTHER newfag Christian
>>> conservative fuckheads like yourself...obviously yer not gonna hear
>>> much "foul language" (as your parents beat you to think).
>>>
>>> Unfortunately for you, Newfag, the Internet is made up of people ALL
>>> over the world of ALL different walks of life, cultures, subcultures,
>>> interests, etc, etc. And in a LOT of those communities, the ones a
>>> newfag Christian conservative like yourself has no fuckin cl00 about,
>>> yeah, "foul language" is very much the norm and isn't actually
>>> considered "foul" at all...then again these are the people whose
>>> parents DIDN'T beat and molest them into feeling sick and dirty every
>>> time they hear a word like CUNT.
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Onideus Mad Hatter
>>> mhm ¹ x ¹
>>> http://www.backwater-productions.net
>>> http://www.backwater-productions.net/hatter-blog
>>>
>>>
>>> Hatter Quotes
>>> -------------
>>> "You're only one of the best if you're striving to become one of the
>>> best."
>>>
>>> "I didn't make reality, Sunshine, I just verbally bitch slapped you with
>>> it."
>>>
>>> "I'm not a professional, I'm an artist."
>>>
>>> "Your Usenet blinders are my best friend."
>>>
>>> "Usenet Filters - Learn to shut yourself the fuck up!"
>>>
>>> "Drugs killed Jesus you know...oh wait, no, that was the Jews, my
>>> bad."
>>>
>>> "There are clingy things in the grass...burrs 'n such...mmmm..."
>>>
>>> "The more I learn the more I'm killing my idols."
>>>
>>> "Is it wrong to incur and then use the hate ridden, vengeful stupidity
>>> of complete strangers in random Usenet froups to further my art?"
>>>
>>> "Freedom is only a concept, like race it's merely a social construct that
>>> doesn't really exist outside of your ability to convince others of its
>>> relevancy."
>>>
>>> "Next time slow up a lil, then maybe you won't jump the gun and start
>>> creamin yer panties before it's time to pop the champagne proper."
>>>
>>> "Reality is directly proportionate to how creative you are."
>>>
>>> "People are pretty fucking high on themselves if they think that they're
>>> just born with a soul. *snicker*...yeah, like they're just givin em out
>>> for free."
>>>
>>> "Quible, quible said the Hare. Quite a lot of quibling...everywhere. So
>>> the Hare took a long stare and decided at best, to leave the rest, to
>>> their merry little mess."
>>>
>>> "There's a difference between 'bad' and 'so earth shatteringly horrible
>>> it makes the angels scream in terror as they violently rip their heads
>>> off, their blood spraying into the faces of a thousand sweet innocent
>>> horrified children, who will forever have the terrible images burned into
>>> their tiny little minds'."
>>>
>>> "How sad that you're such a poor judge of style that you can't even
>>> properly gauge the artistic worth of your own efforts."
>>>
>>> "Those who record history are those who control history."
>>>
>>> "I am the living embodiment of hell itself in all its tormentive rage,
>>> endless suffering, unfathomable pain and unending horror...but you don't
>>> get sent to me...I come for you."
>>>
>>> "Ideally in a fight I'd want a BGM-109A with a W80 250 kiloton tactical
>>> thermonuclear fusion based war head."
>>>
>>> "Tell me, would you describe yourself more as a process or a function?"
>>> "Apparently this group has got the market cornered on stupid.
>>> Intelligence is down 137 points across the board and the forecast
>>> indicates an increase in Webtv users."
>>>
>>> "Is my .sig delimiter broken? Really? You're sure? Awww, gee...that's
>>> too bad...for YOU!" `, )
>>
>> ¡Me cago en la leche de tu madre! ¡Hijo de puta, cabrón!
>> ¡Plasta de mierda, maricón! (es como hablan en *mi* comunidad)
>
>and this is impressive how? and yes, that's about how it sounds in my
>'comunidad'...tambien. next.
>
>> You see, Oh mighty keyboard warrior!, I have no aversion to swearing or
>> insults. I do not, however, see a point to them in a work-related
>> newsgroup.
>
>it's not work-related. it's php related, but not work-related.
>
>among omh's many faults, making large assumptions - incorrectly - is his
>forte (pronounced correctly as 'fort' :) wtf was his rant about xtians?
>where'd that come from?
>
>
>> Now, reread your post and tell yourself that you sound like anything but a
>> bitter, fat, spotty 14 year old who lives in his mothers basement.
>
>actually, truth be known, he's 29 this (afaik)...and, yes, he does live with
>his mother. only, i think he keeps her down there. btw, all his 'real world'
>experience in programming comes from working the cash register at walmart.
>no, i'm not making any of that up.

Your butt hurtz is showing Stevie. You wanna have yerself a lil cry
and try flailing for lames a lil more? *snicker* I could be a gawd
damn garbage collector and I'd still have more programming experience
in my left pinky finger than you'll ever have in your entire
fuckwitted, meandering little inconsequential existence. You're just
a stupid ass loser who got slapped across the face one too many times
by your betters and it's made you all bitter and pissy.

PS - all your "facts" are completely the fuck wrong. For one I'm 27,
two I don't "live with my mother", I own my own house you fuckin
retard and at Wal*Mart I'm an inventory control specialist which is a
fuck of a lot more than you've ever managed to accomplish workin over
at Mickey Ds, Bumbles.

--

Onideus Mad Hatter
mhm ¹ x ¹
http://www.backwater-productions.net
http://www.backwater-productions.net/hatter-blog


Hatter Quotes
-------------
"You're only one of the best if you're striving to become one of the
best."

"I didn't make reality, Sunshine, I just verbally bitch slapped you
with it."

"I'm not a professional, I'm an artist."

"Your Usenet blinders are my best friend."

"Usenet Filters - Learn to shut yourself the fuck up!"

"Drugs killed Jesus you know...oh wait, no, that was the Jews, my
bad."

"There are clingy things in the grass...burrs 'n such...mmmm..."

"The more I learn the more I'm killing my idols."

"Is it wrong to incur and then use the hate ridden, vengeful stupidity
of complete strangers in random Usenet froups to further my art?"

"Freedom is only a concept, like race it's merely a social construct
that doesn't really exist outside of your ability to convince others
of its relevancy."

"Next time slow up a lil, then maybe you won't jump the gun and start
creamin yer panties before it's time to pop the champagne proper."

"Reality is directly proportionate to how creative you are."

"People are pretty fucking high on themselves if they think that
they're just born with a soul. *snicker*...yeah, like they're just
givin em out for free."

"Quible, quible said the Hare. Quite a lot of quibling...everywhere.
So the Hare took a long stare and decided at best, to leave the rest,
to their merry little mess."

"There's a difference between 'bad' and 'so earth shatteringly
horrible it makes the angels scream in terror as they violently rip
their heads off, their blood spraying into the faces of a thousand
sweet innocent horrified children, who will forever have the terrible
images burned into their tiny little minds'."

"How sad that you're such a poor judge of style that you can't even
properly gauge the artistic worth of your own efforts."

"Those who record history are those who control history."

"I am the living embodiment of hell itself in all its tormentive rage,
endless suffering, unfathomable pain and unending horror...but you
don't get sent to me...I come for you."

"Ideally in a fight I'd want a BGM-109A with a W80 250 kiloton
tactical thermonuclear fusion based war head."

"Tell me, would you describe yourself more as a process or a
function?"

"Apparently this group has got the market cornered on stupid.
Intelligence is down 137 points across the board and the forecast
indicates an increase in Webtv users."

"Is my .sig delimiter broken? Really? You're sure? Awww,
gee...that's too bad...for YOU!" `, )

Re: 10 Reasons Why PHP is Better than ASP

am 01.02.2008 21:45:01 von Steve

"Onideus Mad Hatter" wrote in message
news:7qo6q3pqnp6a4om7bd2ds9jom4u9to7unk@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 16:01:46 -0600, "Steve"
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Adam Frame" wrote in message
>>news:lPqdnUgiSuyf-wna4p2dnAA@giganews.com...
>>> Onideus Mad Hatter wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 09:40:32 +0100, Adam Frame
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Steve wrote:
>>>>>> "Adam Frame" wrote in message
>>>>>> news:Ya2dna-v0czkHRLaRVn_vwA@giganews.com...
>>>>>>> Do you get a kick out of insulting people on the internet? You, sir
>>>>>>> are in need of a mouthwash with a bar of soap. If you cannot
>>>>>>> contribute to a civilized discussion without swearing and insults
>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>> don't contribute at all.
>>>>>> first of all, 'mouthwash' is the generic term for a product used *TO*
>>>>>> wash one's mouth. i think you mean that i need my mouth washed
>>>>>> with...that would be 'in need of a mouth wash with...'
>>>>>>
>>>>>> the space is important. :)
>>>>>>
>>>>> However nitpicking your response may seem, I did realise that once I
>>>>> had
>>>>> posted it and I thank you for your correction.
>>>>>
>>>>> Now back to the matter in hand, why is it that on the internet people
>>>>> find it more acceptable to swear, call people names and (god forbid)
>>>>> threaten others? I've never understood that.
>>>>>
>>>>> For me a much more damning response to a post you do not agree with is
>>>>> one which refutes each and every point you intend to without resorting
>>>>> to insults. You just debase your very own argument and make it much
>>>>> less
>>>>> likely that you get your point across.
>>>>>
>>>>> My 2 cents.
>>>>
>>>> The thing you don't get Newfag, is that not everyone is a church going
>>>> Christian conservative fuckhead like you are. And yeah, if the only
>>>> people you hang out with in the real world are OTHER newfag Christian
>>>> conservative fuckheads like yourself...obviously yer not gonna hear
>>>> much "foul language" (as your parents beat you to think).
>>>>
>>>> Unfortunately for you, Newfag, the Internet is made up of people ALL
>>>> over the world of ALL different walks of life, cultures, subcultures,
>>>> interests, etc, etc. And in a LOT of those communities, the ones a
>>>> newfag Christian conservative like yourself has no fuckin cl00 about,
>>>> yeah, "foul language" is very much the norm and isn't actually
>>>> considered "foul" at all...then again these are the people whose
>>>> parents DIDN'T beat and molest them into feeling sick and dirty every
>>>> time they hear a word like CUNT.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> Onideus Mad Hatter
>>>> mhm ¹ x ¹
>>>> http://www.backwater-productions.net
>>>> http://www.backwater-productions.net/hatter-blog
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hatter Quotes
>>>> -------------
>>>> "You're only one of the best if you're striving to become one of the
>>>> best."
>>>>
>>>> "I didn't make reality, Sunshine, I just verbally bitch slapped you
>>>> with
>>>> it."
>>>>
>>>> "I'm not a professional, I'm an artist."
>>>>
>>>> "Your Usenet blinders are my best friend."
>>>>
>>>> "Usenet Filters - Learn to shut yourself the fuck up!"
>>>>
>>>> "Drugs killed Jesus you know...oh wait, no, that was the Jews, my
>>>> bad."
>>>>
>>>> "There are clingy things in the grass...burrs 'n such...mmmm..."
>>>>
>>>> "The more I learn the more I'm killing my idols."
>>>>
>>>> "Is it wrong to incur and then use the hate ridden, vengeful stupidity
>>>> of complete strangers in random Usenet froups to further my art?"
>>>>
>>>> "Freedom is only a concept, like race it's merely a social construct
>>>> that
>>>> doesn't really exist outside of your ability to convince others of its
>>>> relevancy."
>>>>
>>>> "Next time slow up a lil, then maybe you won't jump the gun and start
>>>> creamin yer panties before it's time to pop the champagne proper."
>>>>
>>>> "Reality is directly proportionate to how creative you are."
>>>>
>>>> "People are pretty fucking high on themselves if they think that
>>>> they're
>>>> just born with a soul. *snicker*...yeah, like they're just givin em out
>>>> for free."
>>>>
>>>> "Quible, quible said the Hare. Quite a lot of quibling...everywhere. So
>>>> the Hare took a long stare and decided at best, to leave the rest, to
>>>> their merry little mess."
>>>>
>>>> "There's a difference between 'bad' and 'so earth shatteringly horrible
>>>> it makes the angels scream in terror as they violently rip their heads
>>>> off, their blood spraying into the faces of a thousand sweet innocent
>>>> horrified children, who will forever have the terrible images burned
>>>> into
>>>> their tiny little minds'."
>>>>
>>>> "How sad that you're such a poor judge of style that you can't even
>>>> properly gauge the artistic worth of your own efforts."
>>>>
>>>> "Those who record history are those who control history."
>>>>
>>>> "I am the living embodiment of hell itself in all its tormentive rage,
>>>> endless suffering, unfathomable pain and unending horror...but you
>>>> don't
>>>> get sent to me...I come for you."
>>>>
>>>> "Ideally in a fight I'd want a BGM-109A with a W80 250 kiloton tactical
>>>> thermonuclear fusion based war head."
>>>>
>>>> "Tell me, would you describe yourself more as a process or a function?"
>>>> "Apparently this group has got the market cornered on stupid.
>>>> Intelligence is down 137 points across the board and the forecast
>>>> indicates an increase in Webtv users."
>>>>
>>>> "Is my .sig delimiter broken? Really? You're sure? Awww,
>>>> gee...that's
>>>> too bad...for YOU!" `, )
>>>
>>> ¡Me cago en la leche de tu madre! ¡Hijo de puta, cabrón!
>>> ¡Plasta de mierda, maricón! (es como hablan en *mi* comunidad)
>>
>>and this is impressive how? and yes, that's about how it sounds in my
>>'comunidad'...tambien. next.
>>
>>> You see, Oh mighty keyboard warrior!, I have no aversion to swearing or
>>> insults. I do not, however, see a point to them in a work-related
>>> newsgroup.
>>
>>it's not work-related. it's php related, but not work-related.
>>
>>among omh's many faults, making large assumptions - incorrectly - is his
>>forte (pronounced correctly as 'fort' :) wtf was his rant about xtians?
>>where'd that come from?
>>
>>
>>> Now, reread your post and tell yourself that you sound like anything but
>>> a
>>> bitter, fat, spotty 14 year old who lives in his mothers basement.
>>
>>actually, truth be known, he's 29 this (afaik)...and, yes, he does live
>>with
>>his mother. only, i think he keeps her down there. btw, all his 'real
>>world'
>>experience in programming comes from working the cash register at walmart.
>>no, i'm not making any of that up.
>
> Your butt hurtz is showing Stevie. You wanna have yerself a lil cry
> and try flailing for lames a lil more? *snicker* I could be a gawd
> damn garbage collector and I'd still have more programming experience
> in my left pinky finger than you'll ever have in your entire
> fuckwitted, meandering little inconsequential existence. You're just
> a stupid ass loser who got slapped across the face one too many times
> by your betters and it's made you all bitter and pissy.
>
> PS - all your "facts" are completely the fuck wrong. For one I'm 27,
> two I don't "live with my mother", I own my own house you fuckin
> retard and at Wal*Mart I'm an inventory control specialist which is a
> fuck of a lot more than you've ever managed to accomplish workin over
> at Mickey Ds, Bumbles.

wow, an inventory control 'specialist'...hmmm, sounds a bit like 'domestic
engineer'. well, enjoy your $10 per hour. it's too bad your 'programming
experience' consists solely of pointing a scanner at a barcode and letting
the computer behind it add/subtract from its inventory pool. :)

and, i've never worked at mcdonalds or any other fast-food or service type
of industry. well, i take that back. i worked at plush hotels in california
while in college. i was a concierge...met lots of famous people. that was
kind of fun. getting close to $200 in tips per night was great too. you're
just going to have to realize that those jobs are for the young and
unskilled...or for people who are just in love with it. you're too old to be
considered a pup. now you just have to work on your self-proclaimed
'skillz'.

'special'...that's a hoot!

Re: 10 Reasons Why PHP is Better than ASP

am 01.02.2008 21:45:01 von Steve

"Onideus Mad Hatter" wrote in message
news:7qo6q3pqnp6a4om7bd2ds9jom4u9to7unk@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 16:01:46 -0600, "Steve"
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Adam Frame" wrote in message
>>news:lPqdnUgiSuyf-wna4p2dnAA@giganews.com...
>>> Onideus Mad Hatter wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 09:40:32 +0100, Adam Frame
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Steve wrote:
>>>>>> "Adam Frame" wrote in message
>>>>>> news:Ya2dna-v0czkHRLaRVn_vwA@giganews.com...
>>>>>>> Do you get a kick out of insulting people on the internet? You, sir
>>>>>>> are in need of a mouthwash with a bar of soap. If you cannot
>>>>>>> contribute to a civilized discussion without swearing and insults
>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>> don't contribute at all.
>>>>>> first of all, 'mouthwash' is the generic term for a product used *TO*
>>>>>> wash one's mouth. i think you mean that i need my mouth washed
>>>>>> with...that would be 'in need of a mouth wash with...'
>>>>>>
>>>>>> the space is important. :)
>>>>>>
>>>>> However nitpicking your response may seem, I did realise that once I
>>>>> had
>>>>> posted it and I thank you for your correction.
>>>>>
>>>>> Now back to the matter in hand, why is it that on the internet people
>>>>> find it more acceptable to swear, call people names and (god forbid)
>>>>> threaten others? I've never understood that.
>>>>>
>>>>> For me a much more damning response to a post you do not agree with is
>>>>> one which refutes each and every point you intend to without resorting
>>>>> to insults. You just debase your very own argument and make it much
>>>>> less
>>>>> likely that you get your point across.
>>>>>
>>>>> My 2 cents.
>>>>
>>>> The thing you don't get Newfag, is that not everyone is a church going
>>>> Christian conservative fuckhead like you are. And yeah, if the only
>>>> people you hang out with in the real world are OTHER newfag Christian
>>>> conservative fuckheads like yourself...obviously yer not gonna hear
>>>> much "foul language" (as your parents beat you to think).
>>>>
>>>> Unfortunately for you, Newfag, the Internet is made up of people ALL
>>>> over the world of ALL different walks of life, cultures, subcultures,
>>>> interests, etc, etc. And in a LOT of those communities, the ones a
>>>> newfag Christian conservative like yourself has no fuckin cl00 about,
>>>> yeah, "foul language" is very much the norm and isn't actually
>>>> considered "foul" at all...then again these are the people whose
>>>> parents DIDN'T beat and molest them into feeling sick and dirty every
>>>> time they hear a word like CUNT.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> Onideus Mad Hatter
>>>> mhm ¹ x ¹
>>>> http://www.backwater-productions.net
>>>> http://www.backwater-productions.net/hatter-blog
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hatter Quotes
>>>> -------------
>>>> "You're only one of the best if you're striving to become one of the
>>>> best."
>>>>
>>>> "I didn't make reality, Sunshine, I just verbally bitch slapped you
>>>> with
>>>> it."
>>>>
>>>> "I'm not a professional, I'm an artist."
>>>>
>>>> "Your Usenet blinders are my best friend."
>>>>
>>>> "Usenet Filters - Learn to shut yourself the fuck up!"
>>>>
>>>> "Drugs killed Jesus you know...oh wait, no, that was the Jews, my
>>>> bad."
>>>>
>>>> "There are clingy things in the grass...burrs 'n such...mmmm..."
>>>>
>>>> "The more I learn the more I'm killing my idols."
>>>>
>>>> "Is it wrong to incur and then use the hate ridden, vengeful stupidity
>>>> of complete strangers in random Usenet froups to further my art?"
>>>>
>>>> "Freedom is only a concept, like race it's merely a social construct
>>>> that
>>>> doesn't really exist outside of your ability to convince others of its
>>>> relevancy."
>>>>
>>>> "Next time slow up a lil, then maybe you won't jump the gun and start
>>>> creamin yer panties before it's time to pop the champagne proper."
>>>>
>>>> "Reality is directly proportionate to how creative you are."
>>>>
>>>> "People are pretty fucking high on themselves if they think that
>>>> they're
>>>> just born with a soul. *snicker*...yeah, like they're just givin em out
>>>> for free."
>>>>
>>>> "Quible, quible said the Hare. Quite a lot of quibling...everywhere. So
>>>> the Hare took a long stare and decided at best, to leave the rest, to
>>>> their merry little mess."
>>>>
>>>> "There's a difference between 'bad' and 'so earth shatteringly horrible
>>>> it makes the angels scream in terror as they violently rip their heads
>>>> off, their blood spraying into the faces of a thousand sweet innocent
>>>> horrified children, who will forever have the terrible images burned
>>>> into
>>>> their tiny little minds'."
>>>>
>>>> "How sad that you're such a poor judge of style that you can't even
>>>> properly gauge the artistic worth of your own efforts."
>>>>
>>>> "Those who record history are those who control history."
>>>>
>>>> "I am the living embodiment of hell itself in all its tormentive rage,
>>>> endless suffering, unfathomable pain and unending horror...but you
>>>> don't
>>>> get sent to me...I come for you."
>>>>
>>>> "Ideally in a fight I'd want a BGM-109A with a W80 250 kiloton tactical
>>>> thermonuclear fusion based war head."
>>>>
>>>> "Tell me, would you describe yourself more as a process or a function?"
>>>> "Apparently this group has got the market cornered on stupid.
>>>> Intelligence is down 137 points across the board and the forecast
>>>> indicates an increase in Webtv users."
>>>>
>>>> "Is my .sig delimiter broken? Really? You're sure? Awww,
>>>> gee...that's
>>>> too bad...for YOU!" `, )
>>>
>>> ¡Me cago en la leche de tu madre! ¡Hijo de puta, cabrón!
>>> ¡Plasta de mierda, maricón! (es como hablan en *mi* comunidad)
>>
>>and this is impressive how? and yes, that's about how it sounds in my
>>'comunidad'...tambien. next.
>>
>>> You see, Oh mighty keyboard warrior!, I have no aversion to swearing or
>>> insults. I do not, however, see a point to them in a work-related
>>> newsgroup.
>>
>>it's not work-related. it's php related, but not work-related.
>>
>>among omh's many faults, making large assumptions - incorrectly - is his
>>forte (pronounced correctly as 'fort' :) wtf was his rant about xtians?
>>where'd that come from?
>>
>>
>>> Now, reread your post and tell yourself that you sound like anything but
>>> a
>>> bitter, fat, spotty 14 year old who lives in his mothers basement.
>>
>>actually, truth be known, he's 29 this (afaik)...and, yes, he does live
>>with
>>his mother. only, i think he keeps her down there. btw, all his 'real
>>world'
>>experience in programming comes from working the cash register at walmart.
>>no, i'm not making any of that up.
>
> Your butt hurtz is showing Stevie. You wanna have yerself a lil cry
> and try flailing for lames a lil more? *snicker* I could be a gawd
> damn garbage collector and I'd still have more programming experience
> in my left pinky finger than you'll ever have in your entire
> fuckwitted, meandering little inconsequential existence. You're just
> a stupid ass loser who got slapped across the face one too many times
> by your betters and it's made you all bitter and pissy.
>
> PS - all your "facts" are completely the fuck wrong. For one I'm 27,
> two I don't "live with my mother", I own my own house you fuckin
> retard and at Wal*Mart I'm an inventory control specialist which is a
> fuck of a lot more than you've ever managed to accomplish workin over
> at Mickey Ds, Bumbles.

wow, an inventory control 'specialist'...hmmm, sounds a bit like 'domestic
engineer'. well, enjoy your $10 per hour. it's too bad your 'programming
experience' consists solely of pointing a scanner at a barcode and letting
the computer behind it add/subtract from its inventory pool. :)

and, i've never worked at mcdonalds or any other fast-food or service type
of industry. well, i take that back. i worked at plush hotels in california
while in college. i was a concierge...met lots of famous people. that was
kind of fun. getting close to $200 in tips per night was great too. you're
just going to have to realize that those jobs are for the young and
unskilled...or for people who are just in love with it. you're too old to be
considered a pup. now you just have to work on your self-proclaimed
'skillz'.

'special'...that's a hoot!

Re: 10 Reasons Why PHP is Better than ASP

am 01.02.2008 21:45:01 von Steve

"Onideus Mad Hatter" wrote in message
news:7qo6q3pqnp6a4om7bd2ds9jom4u9to7unk@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 16:01:46 -0600, "Steve"
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Adam Frame" wrote in message
>>news:lPqdnUgiSuyf-wna4p2dnAA@giganews.com...
>>> Onideus Mad Hatter wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 09:40:32 +0100, Adam Frame
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Steve wrote:
>>>>>> "Adam Frame" wrote in message
>>>>>> news:Ya2dna-v0czkHRLaRVn_vwA@giganews.com...
>>>>>>> Do you get a kick out of insulting people on the internet? You, sir
>>>>>>> are in need of a mouthwash with a bar of soap. If you cannot
>>>>>>> contribute to a civilized discussion without swearing and insults
>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>> don't contribute at all.
>>>>>> first of all, 'mouthwash' is the generic term for a product used *TO*
>>>>>> wash one's mouth. i think you mean that i need my mouth washed
>>>>>> with...that would be 'in need of a mouth wash with...'
>>>>>>
>>>>>> the space is important. :)
>>>>>>
>>>>> However nitpicking your response may seem, I did realise that once I
>>>>> had
>>>>> posted it and I thank you for your correction.
>>>>>
>>>>> Now back to the matter in hand, why is it that on the internet people
>>>>> find it more acceptable to swear, call people names and (god forbid)
>>>>> threaten others? I've never understood that.
>>>>>
>>>>> For me a much more damning response to a post you do not agree with is
>>>>> one which refutes each and every point you intend to without resorting
>>>>> to insults. You just debase your very own argument and make it much
>>>>> less
>>>>> likely that you get your point across.
>>>>>
>>>>> My 2 cents.
>>>>
>>>> The thing you don't get Newfag, is that not everyone is a church going
>>>> Christian conservative fuckhead like you are. And yeah, if the only
>>>> people you hang out with in the real world are OTHER newfag Christian
>>>> conservative fuckheads like yourself...obviously yer not gonna hear
>>>> much "foul language" (as your parents beat you to think).
>>>>
>>>> Unfortunately for you, Newfag, the Internet is made up of people ALL
>>>> over the world of ALL different walks of life, cultures, subcultures,
>>>> interests, etc, etc. And in a LOT of those communities, the ones a
>>>> newfag Christian conservative like yourself has no fuckin cl00 about,
>>>> yeah, "foul language" is very much the norm and isn't actually
>>>> considered "foul" at all...then again these are the people whose
>>>> parents DIDN'T beat and molest them into feeling sick and dirty every
>>>> time they hear a word like CUNT.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> Onideus Mad Hatter
>>>> mhm ¹ x ¹
>>>> http://www.backwater-productions.net
>>>> http://www.backwater-productions.net/hatter-blog
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hatter Quotes
>>>> -------------
>>>> "You're only one of the best if you're striving to become one of the
>>>> best."
>>>>
>>>> "I didn't make reality, Sunshine, I just verbally bitch slapped you
>>>> with
>>>> it."
>>>>
>>>> "I'm not a professional, I'm an artist."
>>>>
>>>> "Your Usenet blinders are my best friend."
>>>>
>>>> "Usenet Filters - Learn to shut yourself the fuck up!"
>>>>
>>>> "Drugs killed Jesus you know...oh wait, no, that was the Jews, my
>>>> bad."
>>>>
>>>> "There are clingy things in the grass...burrs 'n such...mmmm..."
>>>>
>>>> "The more I learn the more I'm killing my idols."
>>>>
>>>> "Is it wrong to incur and then use the hate ridden, vengeful stupidity
>>>> of complete strangers in random Usenet froups to further my art?"
>>>>
>>>> "Freedom is only a concept, like race it's merely a social construct
>>>> that
>>>> doesn't really exist outside of your ability to convince others of its
>>>> relevancy."
>>>>
>>>> "Next time slow up a lil, then maybe you won't jump the gun and start
>>>> creamin yer panties before it's time to pop the champagne proper."
>>>>
>>>> "Reality is directly proportionate to how creative you are."
>>>>
>>>> "People are pretty fucking high on themselves if they think that
>>>> they're
>>>> just born with a soul. *snicker*...yeah, like they're just givin em out
>>>> for free."
>>>>
>>>> "Quible, quible said the Hare. Quite a lot of quibling...everywhere. So
>>>> the Hare took a long stare and decided at best, to leave the rest, to
>>>> their merry little mess."
>>>>
>>>> "There's a difference between 'bad' and 'so earth shatteringly horrible
>>>> it makes the angels scream in terror as they violently rip their heads
>>>> off, their blood spraying into the faces of a thousand sweet innocent
>>>> horrified children, who will forever have the terrible images burned
>>>> into
>>>> their tiny little minds'."
>>>>
>>>> "How sad that you're such a poor judge of style that you can't even
>>>> properly gauge the artistic worth of your own efforts."
>>>>
>>>> "Those who record history are those who control history."
>>>>
>>>> "I am the living embodiment of hell itself in all its tormentive rage,
>>>> endless suffering, unfathomable pain and unending horror...but you
>>>> don't
>>>> get sent to me...I come for you."
>>>>
>>>> "Ideally in a fight I'd want a BGM-109A with a W80 250 kiloton tactical
>>>> thermonuclear fusion based war head."
>>>>
>>>> "Tell me, would you describe yourself more as a process or a function?"
>>>> "Apparently this group has got the market cornered on stupid.
>>>> Intelligence is down 137 points across the board and the forecast
>>>> indicates an increase in Webtv users."
>>>>
>>>> "Is my .sig delimiter broken? Really? You're sure? Awww,
>>>> gee...that's
>>>> too bad...for YOU!" `, )
>>>
>>> ¡Me cago en la leche de tu madre! ¡Hijo de puta, cabrón!
>>> ¡Plasta de mierda, maricón! (es como hablan en *mi* comunidad)
>>
>>and this is impressive how? and yes, that's about how it sounds in my
>>'comunidad'...tambien. next.
>>
>>> You see, Oh mighty keyboard warrior!, I have no aversion to swearing or
>>> insults. I do not, however, see a point to them in a work-related
>>> newsgroup.
>>
>>it's not work-related. it's php related, but not work-related.
>>
>>among omh's many faults, making large assumptions - incorrectly - is his
>>forte (pronounced correctly as 'fort' :) wtf was his rant about xtians?
>>where'd that come from?
>>
>>
>>> Now, reread your post and tell yourself that you sound like anything but
>>> a
>>> bitter, fat, spotty 14 year old who lives in his mothers basement.
>>
>>actually, truth be known, he's 29 this (afaik)...and, yes, he does live
>>with
>>his mother. only, i think he keeps her down there. btw, all his 'real
>>world'
>>experience in programming comes from working the cash register at walmart.
>>no, i'm not making any of that up.
>
> Your butt hurtz is showing Stevie. You wanna have yerself a lil cry
> and try flailing for lames a lil more? *snicker* I could be a gawd
> damn garbage collector and I'd still have more programming experience
> in my left pinky finger than you'll ever have in your entire
> fuckwitted, meandering little inconsequential existence. You're just
> a stupid ass loser who got slapped across the face one too many times
> by your betters and it's made you all bitter and pissy.
>
> PS - all your "facts" are completely the fuck wrong. For one I'm 27,
> two I don't "live with my mother", I own my own house you fuckin
> retard and at Wal*Mart I'm an inventory control specialist which is a
> fuck of a lot more than you've ever managed to accomplish workin over
> at Mickey Ds, Bumbles.

wow, an inventory control 'specialist'...hmmm, sounds a bit like 'domestic
engineer'. well, enjoy your $10 per hour. it's too bad your 'programming
experience' consists solely of pointing a scanner at a barcode and letting
the computer behind it add/subtract from its inventory pool. :)

and, i've never worked at mcdonalds or any other fast-food or service type
of industry. well, i take that back. i worked at plush hotels in california
while in college. i was a concierge...met lots of famous people. that was
kind of fun. getting close to $200 in tips per night was great too. you're
just going to have to realize that those jobs are for the young and
unskilled...or for people who are just in love with it. you're too old to be
considered a pup. now you just have to work on your self-proclaimed
'skillz'.

'special'...that's a hoot!