non nntp usenet

non nntp usenet

am 18.01.2008 10:27:35 von Frank Silvermann

How can Outlook Express pick up usenet messages that net::nntp can't?

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Re: non nntp usenet

am 18.01.2008 16:25:52 von smallpond

On Jan 18, 4:27 am, "Regan Revised" wrote:
> How can Outlook Express pick up usenet messages that net::nntp can't?
>
> --
>
> Reagan Revision


Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
--S

Re: non nntp usenet

am 26.01.2008 07:59:41 von Frank Silvermann

"smallpond" wrote in message
news:dd222dbd-3ece-4d65-adfd-e2b5de7195e4@s13g2000prd.google groups.com...
> On Jan 18, 4:27 am, "Regan Revised" wrote:
>> How can Outlook Express pick up usenet messages that net::nntp can't?
>>
>> --
>>
>> Reagan Revision
>
>
> Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
> --S
To my mind, I'd already proved the point.

#!/usr/bin/perl -w

use strict;
use Net::NNTP ();

use constant NUMBER_OF_ARTICLES => 100;
use constant GROUP_NAME => 'comp.whatever';
use constant SERVER_NAME => 'newsgroups.comcast.net';
use constant NNTP_DEBUG => 0;

my $nntp = Net::NNTP->new(SERVER_NAME, 'Debug' => NNTP_DEBUG) or die;
my $USER = 'mpjensen7@comcast.net';
my $PASS = '';

$nntp->authinfo($USER,$PASS) or die $!;


my($article_count, $first_article, $last_article) = $nntp->group(GROUP_NAME)
or die;


# Which XOVER fields contain Subject: and From:?
my $count = 0;
my %xover_fmt = map( ($_, $count++), @{ $nntp->overview_fmt or die} );
die unless exists $xover_fmt{'Subject:'};
my $subject_offset = $xover_fmt{'Subject:'};
my $from_offset = $xover_fmt{'From:'};

my(@xover, $start_article);
RETRIEVE: while ($#xover+1 < NUMBER_OF_ARTICLES and $last_article >=
$first_article) {

# How many articles do we need? Stop retrieving if we have enough
my $articles_required = NUMBER_OF_ARTICLES - ($#xover+1) or last
RETRIEVE;


# Fetch overview information for the articles
$start_article = $last_article - ($articles_required-1);
$start_article = $start_article > $first_article ? $start_article :
$first_article;

my $xover_query = $start_article == $last_article ?
$start_article :
[$start_article, $last_article];
my $xover_ref = $nntp->xover($xover_query) or die;

# Store headers for the articles we've retrieved
foreach (sort {$b <=> $a} keys %$xover_ref) {
push @xover, $xover_ref->{$_};
}
} continue {
# Move the pointer forward to fetch previous articles
$last_article = $start_article - 1;
}

# Disconnect from the NNTP server
$nntp->quit;

print join("\n", map ($_->[$subject_offset].' from '.$_->[$from_offset],
@xover)),"\n";

#end source

My claim is that I've already shown that net::nntp can't find the mi5
persecution dude, Keith Thompson, or me. This goes out just shy of midnight
mountain time, about UTC neagtive six or so. If, within the day, you alter
the above script with appropriate parameters, e.g. changing the group, the
login, the password asnd the newsfeed, you can either "see" this message or
this precedes:

On Jan 24, 12:25 pm, xhos...@gmail.com wrote:
> I need a work queue, but I don't really care about the order (LIFO, FIFO,
> random) in which things come out of it. Either is pretty simple and
> efficient with a Perl array, and either would suffice. But I want the
> queue to not hold duplicate entries. I could use an array as a stack or
> queue, with a parallel hash to be checked to prevent duplicates from being
> entered. But why keep parallel data structures? Just use the hash as the
> queue:
>
> while (key %hash) {
> my $to_do=each %hash;
> delete $hash{$to_do};
> ## do stuff with $to_do, which might make new entries in %hash
>
> };
>

if "do stuff" might make entries in %hash, how do you guarantee you
won't be operating on a duplicate entry, since you delete
$hash{$to_do}?


#end quote

If someone can show that this article exists, using NNTP, it would be a
counter-example.
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not true. It is the chief occupation of mankind.
-- H L Mencken, A Mencken Chrestomathy (1949)