CSS is unbelievably unwieldy. All I want to do is have a page with
three columns. The left and right columns should be fixed width and
the central column should adjust its width to fill in the remaining
space. Such a simple concept is, I believe, virtually impossible to
code. If anyone can do it I would be very impressed.
On Jan 28, 2:59 pm, Bazley
> CSS is unbelievably unwieldy. All I want to do is have a page with
> three columns. The left and right columns should be fixed width and
> the central column should adjust its width to fill in the remaining
> space. Such a simple concept is, I believe, virtually impossible to
> code. If anyone can do it I would be very impressed.
Bazely,
Try this it lays it out in a step by step easy to understand format.
http://a-ok-site.com/webdesign/xhtml_basics/ch10.pdf
To center on the page set the container div margin to auto.
#samplediv {margin:auto;}
For more help see
http://a-ok-site.com/webdesign/index.html
Daniel
http://a-ok-site.com
On Jan 28, 3:19 pm, A-OK-SITE
> On Jan 28, 2:59 pm, Bazley
>
> > CSS is unbelievably unwieldy. All I want to do is have a page with
> > three columns. The left and right columns should be fixed width and
> > the central column should adjust its width to fill in the remaining
> > space. Such a simple concept is, I believe, virtually impossible to
> > code. If anyone can do it I would be very impressed.
>
> Bazely,
>
> Try this it lays it out in a step by step easy to understand format.
>
> http://a-ok-site.com/webdesign/xhtml_basics/ch10.pdf
>
> To center on the page set the container div margin to auto.
>
> #samplediv {margin:auto;}
>
> For more help see
>
> http://a-ok-site.com/webdesign/index.html
>
> Daniel
>
> http://a-ok-site.com
Bazley,
Sorry for the typo on your name.
Since that is how my website is set up let know if you have any
problems.
Daniel
Http://a-ok-site.com
On Jan 28, 2:59 pm, Bazley
> CSS is unbelievably unwieldy. All I want to do is have a page with
> three columns. The left and right columns should be fixed width and
> the central column should adjust its width to fill in the remaining
> space. Such a simple concept is, I believe, virtually impossible to
> code. If anyone can do it I would be very impressed.
Bazley,
Sorry for the typo on your name.
Since that is how my website is set up let know if you have any
problems.
Daniel
http://a-ok-site.com
"Bazley"
news:e06cf3dc-7a01-4ead-89ae-75c9b71b1b15@e25g2000prg.google groups.com...
> CSS is unbelievably unwieldy. All I want to do is have a page with
> three columns. The left and right columns should be fixed width and
> the central column should adjust its width to fill in the remaining
> space. Such a simple concept is, I believe, virtually impossible to
> code. If anyone can do it I would be very impressed.
http://www.nrkn.com/3ColEqualPositioned/
"A-OK-SITE"
news:e8b9890d-16c5-463f-ba7c-4690745d7e71@c4g2000hsg.googleg roups.com...
> On Jan 28, 2:59 pm, Bazley
>> CSS is unbelievably unwieldy. All I want to do is have a page with
>> three columns. The left and right columns should be fixed width and
>> the central column should adjust its width to fill in the remaining
>> space. Such a simple concept is, I believe, virtually impossible to
>> code. If anyone can do it I would be very impressed.
>
> Bazely,
>
> Try this it lays it out in a step by step easy to understand format.
>
> http://a-ok-site.com/webdesign/xhtml_basics/ch10.pdf
A power point presentation inside a pdf? Surely you jest. This is the web
not the boardroom.
--
Richard.
On Jan 28, 3:51 pm, "rf"
> "A-OK-SITE"
>
> news:e8b9890d-16c5-463f-ba7c-4690745d7e71@c4g2000hsg.googleg roups.com...
>
> > On Jan 28, 2:59 pm, Bazley
> >> CSS is unbelievably unwieldy. All I want to do is have a page with
> >> three columns. The left and right columns should be fixed width and
> >> the central column should adjust its width to fill in the remaining
> >> space. Such a simple concept is, I believe, virtually impossible to
> >> code. If anyone can do it I would be very impressed.
>
> > Bazely,
>
> > Try this it lays it out in a step by step easy to understand format.
>
> >http://a-ok-site.com/webdesign/xhtml_basics/ch10.pdf
>
> A power point presentation inside a pdf? Surely you jest. This is the web
> not the boardroom.
>
> --
> Richard.
Why would you care, I made it for a class and just converted it to
pdf. If you don't like it, stay the away from my web site. Is that
simple enough for you to understand.
Daniel
http://a-ok-site.com
http://www.glish.com/css/7.asp
On Jan 28, 2:59=A0pm, Bazley
> CSS is unbelievably unwieldy. All I want to do is have a page with
> three columns. The left and right columns should be fixed width and
> the central column should adjust its width to fill in the remaining
> space. Such a simple concept is, I believe, virtually impossible to
> code. If anyone can do it I would be very impressed.
"A-OK-SITE"
news:583db7eb-f12b-424e-85bb-cb7824b5a6c3@p69g2000hsa.google groups.com...
> On Jan 28, 3:51 pm, "rf"
>> "A-OK-SITE"
>>
>> news:e8b9890d-16c5-463f-ba7c-4690745d7e71@c4g2000hsg.googleg roups.com...
>>
>> > On Jan 28, 2:59 pm, Bazley
>> >> CSS is unbelievably unwieldy. All I want to do is have a page with
>> >> three columns. The left and right columns should be fixed width and
>> >> the central column should adjust its width to fill in the remaining
>> >> space. Such a simple concept is, I believe, virtually impossible to
>> >> code. If anyone can do it I would be very impressed.
>>
>> > Bazely,
>>
>> > Try this it lays it out in a step by step easy to understand format.
>>
>> >http://a-ok-site.com/webdesign/xhtml_basics/ch10.pdf
>>
>> A power point presentation inside a pdf? Surely you jest. This is the web
>> not the boardroom.
>>
>> --
>> Richard.
>
> Why would you care,
I would care because you are trying to palm off this pdf as usefull
information to the OP and to this newsgroup at large.
> I made it for a class and just converted it to
> pdf.
Right. The OP breezes in to your pdf expecting to be enlightened on how to
build a three column layout. OP finds the relevant example on page 18 out of
28, after a sequential search because there is no table of contents in your
pdf and there are no links anywhere.
Great, thinks OP, and scrolls down to look at the next page, page 19, where
OP is told to
"Review the CSS on threecolumn.htm from the Student Files."
What bloody student files? This whole exercise has been a total waste of
time for the OP. Why did you even post a link to such useless rubbish.
> If you don't like it, stay the away from my web site. Is that
> simple enough for you to understand.
And I'll extend this invitation to stay away from your web site to everybody
else. There is no point in visiting a link to a pdf from A-OK-SITE because
you will not learn anything, and *every* link opn the "web design" page is a
link to a pdf.
He's a damn google grouper as well!.
--
Richard.
Scripsit Nik Coughlin:
> "Bazley"
> news:e06cf3dc-7a01-4ead-89ae-75c9b71b1b15@e25g2000prg.google groups.com...
>> CSS is unbelievably unwieldy. All I want to do is have a page with
>> three columns. The left and right columns should be fixed width and
>> the central column should adjust its width to fill in the remaining
>> space. Such a simple concept is, I believe, virtually impossible to
>> code. If anyone can do it I would be very impressed.
>
> http://www.nrkn.com/3ColEqualPositioned/
I think the page nicely demonstrates what Bazley wrote, at least the
"unwieldy" part. It uses fairly complicated tricks to achieve a simple
layout that virtually anyone familiar with HTML basics could code in a
minute using a simple HTML table. Which approach is easier to apply?
Easier for maintenance? Easier to understand when you're reading someone
else's code?
(Besides, the page cheats by using IE-specific quite nonstandard CSS
features, which are effectively kind of client-side scripting.)
--
Jukka K. Korpela ("Yucca")
http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/
Bazley wrote:
> CSS is unbelievably unwieldy.
Only until you develop the mindset to use it.
Then you will wonder why you waited so long...
--
-bts
-Friends don't let friends drive Vista
"rf"
news:Wwsnj.8401$421.1412@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>
> "A-OK-SITE"
> news:583db7eb-f12b-424e-85bb-cb7824b5a6c3@p69g2000hsa.google groups.com...
>> Why would you care,
>
> I would care because you are trying to palm off this pdf as usefull
> information to the OP and to this newsgroup at large.
Hmmm. I must have offended Mr Site. He appears to have removed his posts in
this thread from googles archive, picked up his bat and ball and gone home.
Little does he know that these posts remain on usenet servers around the
world for months to come :-)
--
Richard.
On Jan 28, 6:24 pm, "rf"
> "rf"
>
> news:Wwsnj.8401$421.1412@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>
>
>
> > "A-OK-SITE"
> >news:583db7eb-f12b-424e-85bb-cb7824b5a6c3@p69g2000hsa.googl egroups.com...
> >> Why would you care,
>
> > I would care because you are trying to palm off this pdf as usefull
> > information to the OP and to this newsgroup at large.
>
> Hmmm. I must have offended Mr Site. He appears to have removed his posts in
> this thread from googles archive, picked up his bat and ball and gone home.
>
> Little does he know that these posts remain on usenet servers around the
> world for months to come :-)
>
> --
> Richard.
Mr. Site thinks you are a stupid prick. He also thinks usenet sucks.
usenet.sucks
"Bazley"
news:e06cf3dc-7a01-4ead-89ae-75c9b71b1b15@e25g2000prg.google groups.com...
> CSS is unbelievably unwieldy. All I want to do is have a page with
> three columns. The left and right columns should be fixed width and
> the central column should adjust its width to fill in the remaining
> space. Such a simple concept is, I believe, virtually impossible to
> code. If anyone can do it I would be very impressed.
Ok, here goes....
I've given the center column a background colour, and the two outer columns
a border so you can see how it fills the space. You need to play around with
margins and paddings to suit your application, but this should point you in
the general direction ok...
Two minute job:
"http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd">
Here's your left column
Here's the right column
Here's the middle bit.
"Jukka K. Korpela"
news:%Psnj.288428$U67.212345@reader1.news.saunalahti.fi...
> Scripsit Nik Coughlin:
>
>> "Bazley"
>> news:e06cf3dc-7a01-4ead-89ae-75c9b71b1b15@e25g2000prg.google groups.com...
>>> CSS is unbelievably unwieldy. All I want to do is have a page with
>>> three columns. The left and right columns should be fixed width and
>>> the central column should adjust its width to fill in the remaining
>>> space. Such a simple concept is, I believe, virtually impossible to
>>> code. If anyone can do it I would be very impressed.
>>
>> http://www.nrkn.com/3ColEqualPositioned/
>
> I think the page nicely demonstrates what Bazley wrote, at least the
> "unwieldy" part. It uses fairly complicated tricks to achieve a simple
> layout that virtually anyone familiar with HTML basics could code in a
> minute using a simple HTML table. Which approach is easier to apply?
> Easier for maintenance? Easier to understand when you're reading someone
> else's code?
That's true Jukka, if a table is easier if you want equal height columns.
However, non-equal height columns of the type Bazley needs are trivial. I
intended to point that out as well, but I got distracted by work so ended up
leaving my post as above.
> (Besides, the page cheats by using IE-specific quite nonstandard CSS
> features, which are effectively kind of client-side scripting.)
Yes, yes it does. Unfortunate that.
A-OK-SITE
wrote:
> Mr. Site thinks you are a stupid prick. He also thinks usenet sucks.
>
> usenet.sucks
NNTP-Posting-Host: 70.233.163.11
Google Groups sucks a whole lot more...
--
-bts
-Friends don't let friends drive Vista
In article <7nunj.8451$421.4840@news-server.bigpond.net.au>,
"rf"
>
> "rf"
> news:Wwsnj.8401$421.1412@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> >
> > "A-OK-SITE"
> > news:583db7eb-f12b-424e-85bb-cb7824b5a6c3@p69g2000hsa.google groups.com...
>
> >> Why would you care,
> >
> > I would care because you are trying to palm off this pdf as usefull
> > information to the OP and to this newsgroup at large.
>
> Hmmm. I must have offended Mr Site. He appears to have removed his posts in
> this thread from googles archive, picked up his bat and ball and gone home.
>
> Little does he know that these posts remain on usenet servers around the
> world for months to come :-)
Well that is good because I was getting pretty tired of his
idiotic attacks on people he did not understand.
He was about to be introduced to Jerry Stuckle in my killfile.
And my killfile is not like any other. I have a vast store of
personal experience about these and have found loopholes and
flaws in their design that have enabled me to settle in very
comfortably, to study quietly with all the things one needs for
solitary and productive reflection in them all.
Armed with such experience, I designed my own kf with no
loopholes, no comforts, and terrible plumbing.
--
dorayme
"dorayme"
news:doraymeRidThis-45C5EE.13010729012008@news-vip.optusnet. com.au...
> In article <7nunj.8451$421.4840@news-server.bigpond.net.au>,
> "rf"
>
>>
>> "rf"
>> news:Wwsnj.8401$421.1412@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>> >
>> > "A-OK-SITE"
>> > news:583db7eb-f12b-424e-85bb-cb7824b5a6c3@p69g2000hsa.google groups.com...
>>
>> >> Why would you care,
>> >
>> > I would care because you are trying to palm off this pdf as usefull
>> > information to the OP and to this newsgroup at large.
>>
>> Hmmm. I must have offended Mr Site. He appears to have removed his posts
>> in
>> this thread from googles archive, picked up his bat and ball and gone
>> home.
>>
>> Little does he know that these posts remain on usenet servers around the
>> world for months to come :-)
>
> Well that is good because I was getting pretty tired of his
> idiotic attacks on people he did not understand.
I had only started to notice him before he had a go at me for having a go at
his pdf.
Just noticed that he has taken his list of pdfs down, including a page that
was about C++. Must have been really cranky, especially to morf into the
usenet.sucks troll. Can you see him stalking me across usenet? :-)
That actually bears clarifying. A-OK-SITE (aka aoksite1@gmail.com) has
morfed into usenet.sucks@gmail.com.
--
Richard.
On Jan 28, 8:01 pm, dorayme
> In article <7nunj.8451$421.4...@news-server.bigpond.net.au>,
>
>
>
> "rf"
>
> > "rf"
> >news:Wwsnj.8401$421.1412@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>
> > > "A-OK-SITE"
> > >news:583db7eb-f12b-424e-85bb-cb7824b5a6c3@p69g2000hsa.googl egroups.com...
>
> > >> Why would you care,
>
> > > I would care because you are trying to palm off this pdf as usefull
> > > information to the OP and to this newsgroup at large.
>
> > Hmmm. I must have offended Mr Site. He appears to have removed his posts in
> > this thread from googles archive, picked up his bat and ball and gone home.
>
> > Little does he know that these posts remain on usenet servers around the
> > world for months to come :-)
>
> Well that is good because I was getting pretty tired of his
> idiotic attacks on people he did not understand.
>
> He was about to be introduced to Jerry Stuckle in my killfile.
> And my killfile is not like any other. I have a vast store of
> personal experience about these and have found loopholes and
> flaws in their design that have enabled me to settle in very
> comfortably, to study quietly with all the things one needs for
> solitary and productive reflection in them all.
>
> Armed with such experience, I designed my own kf with no
> loopholes, no comforts, and terrible plumbing.
>
> --
> dorayme
Kill files are for morons like you.
On Jan 28, 8:33 pm, "rf"
> "dorayme"
>
> news:doraymeRidThis-45C5EE.13010729012008@news-vip.optusnet. com.au...
>
>
>
> > In article <7nunj.8451$421.4...@news-server.bigpond.net.au>,
> > "rf"
>
> >> "rf"
> >>news:Wwsnj.8401$421.1412@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>
> >> > "A-OK-SITE"
> >> >news:583db7eb-f12b-424e-85bb-cb7824b5a6c3@p69g2000hsa.googl egroups.com...
>
> >> >> Why would you care,
>
> >> > I would care because you are trying to palm off this pdf as usefull
> >> > information to the OP and to this newsgroup at large.
>
> >> Hmmm. I must have offended Mr Site. He appears to have removed his posts
> >> in
> >> this thread from googles archive, picked up his bat and ball and gone
> >> home.
>
> >> Little does he know that these posts remain on usenet servers around the
> >> world for months to come :-)
>
> > Well that is good because I was getting pretty tired of his
> > idiotic attacks on people he did not understand.
>
> I had only started to notice him before he had a go at me for having a go at
> his pdf.
>
> Just noticed that he has taken his list of pdfs down, including a page that
> was about C++. Must have been really cranky, especially to morf into the
> usenet.sucks troll. Can you see him stalking me across usenet? :-)
>
> That actually bears clarifying. A-OK-SITE (aka aoksi...@gmail.com) has
> morfed into usenet.su...@gmail.com.
>
> --
> Richard.
You ever think it is you with the problem. You seem to be a real punk.
rf wrote:
>
> "rf"
> news:Wwsnj.8401$421.1412@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>
>> "A-OK-SITE"
>> news:583db7eb-f12b-424e-85bb-cb7824b5a6c3@p69g2000hsa.google groups.com...
>
>>> Why would you care,
>>
>> I would care because you are trying to palm off this pdf as usefull
>> information to the OP and to this newsgroup at large.
>
> Hmmm. I must have offended Mr Site. He appears to have removed his posts
> in this thread from googles archive, picked up his bat and ball and gone
> home.
>
> Little does he know that these posts remain on usenet servers around the
> world for months to come :-)
Perhaps he'll go back to the real Google Groups -- the ones that only
other Google Gropers see. He probably just got out here in the real
world by mistake.
--
Blinky
Killing all posts from Google Groups
The Usenet Improvement Project: http://improve-usenet.org
Blinky: http://blinkynet.net
rf wrote:
> "A-OK-SITE"
> news:e8b9890d-16c5-463f-ba7c-4690745d7e71@c4g2000hsg.googleg roups.com...
>> On Jan 28, 2:59 pm, Bazley
>>> CSS is unbelievably unwieldy. All I want to do is have a page with
>>> three columns. The left and right columns should be fixed width and
>>> the central column should adjust its width to fill in the remaining
>>> space. Such a simple concept is, I believe, virtually impossible to
>>> code. If anyone can do it I would be very impressed.
>> Bazely,
>>
>> Try this it lays it out in a step by step easy to understand format.
>>
>> http://a-ok-site.com/webdesign/xhtml_basics/ch10.pdf
>
> A power point presentation inside a pdf? Surely you jest. This is the web
> not the boardroom.
>
Who amongst us has the nerve to post a link to their own website?
Jeff
"Jeff"
news:13pta76hs66i59e@corp.supernews.com...
> rf wrote:
>> "A-OK-SITE"
>> news:e8b9890d-16c5-463f-ba7c-4690745d7e71@c4g2000hsg.googleg roups.com...
>>> On Jan 28, 2:59 pm, Bazley
>>>> CSS is unbelievably unwieldy. All I want to do is have a page with
>>>> three columns. The left and right columns should be fixed width and
>>>> the central column should adjust its width to fill in the remaining
>>>> space. Such a simple concept is, I believe, virtually impossible to
>>>> code. If anyone can do it I would be very impressed.
>>> Bazely,
>>>
>>> Try this it lays it out in a step by step easy to understand format.
>>>
>>> http://a-ok-site.com/webdesign/xhtml_basics/ch10.pdf
>>
>> A power point presentation inside a pdf? Surely you jest. This is the web
>> not the boardroom.
>>
>
> Who amongst us has the nerve to post a link to their own website?
>
Oh I have the nerve... I just don't have the time or inclination to massage
the egos of the naysayers afterwards.
asdf wrote:
> "Jeff"
> news:13pta76hs66i59e@corp.supernews.com...
>> rf wrote:
>>> "A-OK-SITE"
>>> news:e8b9890d-16c5-463f-ba7c-4690745d7e71@c4g2000hsg.googleg roups.com...
>>>> On Jan 28, 2:59 pm, Bazley
>>>>> CSS is unbelievably unwieldy. All I want to do is have a page with
>>>>> three columns. The left and right columns should be fixed width and
>>>>> the central column should adjust its width to fill in the remaining
>>>>> space. Such a simple concept is, I believe, virtually impossible to
>>>>> code. If anyone can do it I would be very impressed.
>>>> Bazely,
>>>>
>>>> Try this it lays it out in a step by step easy to understand format.
>>>>
>>>> http://a-ok-site.com/webdesign/xhtml_basics/ch10.pdf
>>> A power point presentation inside a pdf? Surely you jest. This is the web
>>> not the boardroom.
>>>
>> Who amongst us has the nerve to post a link to their own website?
>>
>
>
> Oh I have the nerve... I just don't have the time or inclination to massage
> the egos of the naysayers afterwards.
>
>
Naysayers? Here?
Jeff
Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Tue, 29 Jan 2008 00:24:35
GMT rf scribed:
> "rf"
> news:Wwsnj.8401$421.1412@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>
>> "A-OK-SITE"
>> news:583db7eb-f12b-424e-85bb-cb7824b5a6c3@p69g2000hsa.google groups.com
>> ...
>
>>> Why would you care,
>>
>> I would care because you are trying to palm off this pdf as usefull
>> information to the OP and to this newsgroup at large.
>
> Hmmm. I must have offended Mr Site.
Mr. Diplomatic you're not. Perhaps you should peruse some of Jukka's posts
in an effort to absorb a modicum of congeniality.
> He appears to have removed his
> posts in this thread from googles archive, picked up his bat and ball
> and gone home.
That happens.
> Little does he know that these posts remain on usenet servers around
> the world for months to come :-)
That happens, too.
--
Neredbojias
Riches are their own reward.
Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Tue, 29 Jan 2008 00:33:53
GMT usenet.sucks@gmail.com scribed:
> On Jan 28, 6:24 pm, "rf"
>> "rf"
>> Hmmm. I must have offended Mr Site. He appears to have removed his
>> posts in this thread from googles archive, picked up his bat and ball
>> and gone home.
>>
>> Little does he know that these posts remain on usenet servers around
>> the world for months to come :-)
>
> Mr. Site thinks you are a stupid prick. He also thinks usenet sucks.
>
> usenet.sucks
Yeah, all of usenet sucks and you're right...
rf may have been a little rough on you, but he can't help it; he was born
that way. And also, I'm curious to know what he said that you believe is
inaccurate...?
--
Neredbojias
Riches are their own reward.
Bazley wrote:
> CSS is unbelievably unwieldy. All I want to do is have a page with
> three columns. The left and right columns should be fixed width and
> the central column should adjust its width to fill in the remaining
> space. Such a simple concept is, I believe, virtually impossible to
> code. If anyone can do it I would be very impressed.
I don't understand it: there are lots of examples with three columns.
Problems arise when you want equal heights of the columns or borders in
between*.
In that case there is a relation between the 3 columns and a table is
appropriate.
* for example the site of A-OK http://a-ok-site.com/webdesign/index.html:
looks great, but when font-size is enlarged the border between column 1 and
2 is broken.
--
Nico
On Jan 29, 6:38=A0pm, "Nico Schuyt"
> Bazley wrote:
> > CSS is unbelievably unwieldy. All I want to do is have a page with
> > three columns. The left and right columns should be fixed width and
> > the central column should adjust its width to fill in the remaining
> > space. Such a simple concept is, I believe, virtually impossible to
> > code. If anyone can do it I would be very impressed.
>
> I don't understand it: there are lots of examples with three columns.
> Problems arise when you want equal heights of the columns or borders in
> between*.
> In that case there is a relation between the 3 columns =A0and a table is
> appropriate.
> * for example the site of A-OKhttp://a-ok-site.com/webdesign/index.html:
> looks great, but when font-size is enlarged the border between column 1 an=
d
> 2 is broken.
>
That all depends on how the site is coded.
http://freewebdesignonline.org/wdto/articles/text/is-yourcon tent-importent.p=
hp
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Chaddy2222 wrote:
> Nico Schuyt"
>> Bazley wrote:
>>> CSS is unbelievably unwieldy. All I want to do is have a page with
>>> three columns. The left and right columns should be fixed width and
>>> the central column should adjust its width to fill in the remaining
>>> space. Such a simple concept is, I believe, virtually impossible to
>>> code. If anyone can do it I would be very impressed.
>> I don't understand it: there are lots of examples with three columns.
>> Problems arise when you want equal heights of the columns or borders
>> in between*.
>> In that case there is a relation between the 3 columns and a table is
>> appropriate.
>> * for example the site of
>> A-OKhttp://a-ok-site.com/webdesign/index.html: looks great, but when
>> font-size is enlarged the border between column 1 and 2 is broken.
> That all depends on how the site is coded.
> http://freewebdesignonline.org/wdto/articles/text/is-yourcon tent-importent.php
Do you suggest to use px to prevent the text being enlarged (in IE)??
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Nico
On 2008-01-28, Bazley
> CSS is unbelievably unwieldy. All I want to do is have a page with
> three columns. The left and right columns should be fixed width and
> the central column should adjust its width to fill in the remaining
> space. Such a simple concept is, I believe, virtually impossible to
> code. If anyone can do it I would be very impressed.
Of course many people have done this and the least impressive is a
small template I put together ages ago:
http://www.andrews-corner.org/template_3.html
#leftnav and #rightnav are in ems which is not particularly 'fixed'
but this would be a trivial thing to alter. I stopped working on it
because I have a certain dislike for 3 columns and other people were
doing it so much better :-)
Andrew
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http://www.andrews-corner.org
On Jan 29, 7:20=A0pm, "Nico Schuyt"
> Chaddy2222 wrote:
> > Nico Schuyt"
> >> Bazley wrote:
> >>> CSS is unbelievably unwieldy. All I want to do is have a page with
> >>> three columns. The left and right columns should be fixed width and
> >>> the central column should adjust its width to fill in the remaining
> >>> space. Such a simple concept is, I believe, virtually impossible to
> >>> code. If anyone can do it I would be very impressed.
> >> I don't understand it: there are lots of examples with three columns.
> >> Problems arise when you want equal heights of the columns or borders
> >> in between*.
> >> In that case there is a relation between the 3 columns and a table is
> >> appropriate.
> >> * for example the site of
> >> A-OKhttp://a-ok-site.com/webdesign/index.html:looks great, but when
> >> font-size is enlarged the border between column 1 and 2 is broken.
> > That all depends on how the site is coded.
> >http://freewebdesignonline.org/wdto/articles/text/is-yourco ntent-impo...
>
> Do you suggest to use px to prevent the text being enlarged (in IE)??
>
Nah I suggest to use em or % units (to make the text and other
features re-sizeable.
BTW if you want equal hights for a three colum layout you will
probably need to eather use tables or div's with fixxed sizes in PX.
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Chaddy2222 wrote:
> Nico Schuyt
>> Chaddy2222 wrote:
>>> Nico Schuyt"
>>>> Bazley wrote:
>>>>> CSS is unbelievably unwieldy. All I want to do is have a page with
>>>>> three columns. The left and right columns should be fixed width
>>>>> and the central column should adjust its width to fill in the
>>>>> remaining space. Such a simple concept is, I believe, virtually
>>>>> impossible to code. If anyone can do it I would be very impressed.
>>>> I don't understand it: there are lots of examples with three
>>>> columns. Problems arise when you want equal heights of the columns
>>>> or borders in between*.
>>>> In that case there is a relation between the 3 columns and a table
>>>> is appropriate.
>>>> * for example the site of
>>>> A-OK http://a-ok-site.com/webdesign/index.html
>>>> looks great, but when
>>>> font-size is enlarged the border between column 1 and 2 is broken.
>>> That all depends on how the site is coded.
>>> http://freewebdesignonline.org/wdto/articles/text/is-yourcon tent-impo...
>> Do you suggest to use px to prevent the text being enlarged (in IE)??
> Nah I suggest to use em or % units (to make the text and other
> features re-sizeable.
But that's just what makes the div-solution fail :-)
> BTW if you want equal hights for a three colum layout you will
> probably need to eather use tables or div's with fixxed sizes in PX.
Or Javascript
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Nico
On Jan 29, 8:51=A0pm, andrew
> On 2008-01-28, Bazley
>
> > CSS is unbelievably unwieldy. All I want to do is have a page with
> > three columns. The left and right columns should be fixed width and
> > the central column should adjust its width to fill in the remaining
> > space. Such a simple concept is, I believe, virtually impossible to
> > code. If anyone can do it I would be very impressed.
>
> Of course many people have done this and the least impressive is a
> small template I put together ages ago:
>
> http://www.andrews-corner.org/template_3.html
>
> #leftnav and #rightnav are in ems which is not particularly 'fixed'
> but this would be a trivial thing to alter. I stopped working on it
> because I have a certain dislike for 3 columns and other people were
> doing it so much better :-)
>
TBH, I reckon most sites don't three colums anyway and some that do
probly need to be re-designed to have more pages.
--
Regards Chad. http://freewebdesignonline.org
Nico Schuyt wrote:
> Bazley wrote:
>> CSS is unbelievably unwieldy. All I want to do is have a page with
>> three columns. The left and right columns should be fixed width and
>> the central column should adjust its width to fill in the remaining
>> space. Such a simple concept is, I believe, virtually impossible to
>> code. If anyone can do it I would be very impressed.
>
> I don't understand it: there are lots of examples with three columns.
> Problems arise when you want equal heights of the columns or borders in
> between*.
> In that case there is a relation between the 3 columns and a table is
> appropriate.
Don't you guys read this group?
There's a post, originated by myself, on the 22nd about equal height
columns. In it Nik Coughlin completely explains the CSS solution,
Dorayme has a simple fix for center or one side longer, and I have a
drop in javascript for columns anywhere, including rows and rows and
rows of floated thumbs.
All of those adjust to font or browser resizing.
The equal height column Holy Grail has been beat.
Jeff
> * for example the site of A-OK http://a-ok-site.com/webdesign/index.html:
> looks great, but when font-size is enlarged the border between column 1 and
> 2 is broken.
>
Jeff wrote:
> Nico Schuyt wrote:
>> I don't understand it: there are lots of examples with three columns.
>> Problems arise when you want equal heights of the columns or borders
>> in between*.
>> In that case there is a relation between the 3 columns and a table
>> is appropriate.
> Don't you guys read this group?
> There's a post, originated by myself, on the 22nd about equal height
> columns. In it Nik Coughlin completely explains the CSS solution,
> Dorayme has a simple fix for center or one side longer, and I have a
> drop in javascript for columns anywhere, including rows and rows and
> rows of floated thumbs.
For those who missed that thread too:
http://websiterepairguru.com/test_full_height_columns.html Javascript
http://www.nrkn.com/3ColEqualPositioned/ Without JS
http://netweaver.com.au/alt/equalColsSimpleTactic.html Without JS
> All of those adjust to font or browser resizing.
> The equal height column Holy Grail has been beat.
I'm impressed, but not completely convinced. I've tried such things before
and they (my experiments) collapsed in situations where images and other
elements were added :-)
--
Nico
Nico Schuyt wrote:
> Jeff wrote:
>> Nico Schuyt wrote:
>
>>> I don't understand it: there are lots of examples with three columns.
>>> Problems arise when you want equal heights of the columns or borders
>>> in between*.
>>> In that case there is a relation between the 3 columns and a table
>>> is appropriate.
>
>> Don't you guys read this group?
>> There's a post, originated by myself, on the 22nd about equal height
>> columns. In it Nik Coughlin completely explains the CSS solution,
>> Dorayme has a simple fix for center or one side longer, and I have a
>> drop in javascript for columns anywhere, including rows and rows and
>> rows of floated thumbs.
>
> For those who missed that thread too:
> http://websiterepairguru.com/test_full_height_columns.html Javascript
> http://www.nrkn.com/3ColEqualPositioned/ Without JS
> http://netweaver.com.au/alt/equalColsSimpleTactic.html Without JS
>
>
>> All of those adjust to font or browser resizing.
>> The equal height column Holy Grail has been beat.
>
> I'm impressed, but not completely convinced. I've tried such things before
> and they (my experiments) collapsed in situations where images and other
> elements were added :-)
Well let us know if you do any experiments!
Jeff
>
Chaddy2222 wrote:
>
> BTW if you want equal hights for a three colum layout you will
> probably need to eather use tables or div's with fixxed sizes in PX.
Nope.
http://www.bergamotus.ws/samples/3column-stretch-with-border s.html
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Jeff wrote:
> Nico Schuyt wrote:
>> Jeff wrote:
>>> Don't you guys read this group?
>>> There's a post, originated by myself, on the 22nd about equal height
>>> columns. In it Nik Coughlin completely explains the CSS solution,
>>> Dorayme has a simple fix for center or one side longer, and I have a
>>> drop in javascript for columns anywhere, including rows and rows and
>>> rows of floated thumbs.
>> For those who missed that thread too:
>> http://websiterepairguru.com/test_full_height_columns.html Javascript
>> http://www.nrkn.com/3ColEqualPositioned/ Without JS
>> http://netweaver.com.au/alt/equalColsSimpleTactic.html Without JS
>>> All of those adjust to font or browser resizing.
>>> The equal height column Holy Grail has been beat.
>> I'm impressed, but not completely convinced. I've tried such things
>> before and they (my experiments) collapsed in situations where
>> images and other elements were added :-)
> Well let us know if you do any experiments!
I certainly will! But it will be long before I have time for that.
May I suggest that you continue with your holy mission and present a more
complex example? :-)
--
Nico
Nico Schuyt wrote:
> Jeff wrote:
>> Nico Schuyt wrote:
>>> Jeff wrote:
>
>>>> Don't you guys read this group?
>>>> There's a post, originated by myself, on the 22nd about equal height
>>>> columns. In it Nik Coughlin completely explains the CSS solution,
>>>> Dorayme has a simple fix for center or one side longer, and I have a
>>>> drop in javascript for columns anywhere, including rows and rows and
>>>> rows of floated thumbs.
>
>>> For those who missed that thread too:
>>> http://websiterepairguru.com/test_full_height_columns.html Javascript
>>> http://www.nrkn.com/3ColEqualPositioned/ Without JS
>>> http://netweaver.com.au/alt/equalColsSimpleTactic.html Without JS
>
>>>> All of those adjust to font or browser resizing.
>>>> The equal height column Holy Grail has been beat.
>
>>> I'm impressed, but not completely convinced. I've tried such things
>>> before and they (my experiments) collapsed in situations where
>>> images and other elements were added :-)
>
>> Well let us know if you do any experiments!
>
> I certainly will! But it will be long before I have time for that.
> May I suggest that you continue with your holy mission and present a more
> complex example? :-)
I'm already using it. I'll post up something later. You know how this
group is, if they can find something to complain about...
Jeff
>
Jeff wrote:
> Nico Schuyt wrote:
>> Jeff wrote:
>>> Nico Schuyt wrote:
>>>> Jeff wrote:
>>>>> Don't you guys read this group?
>>>>> There's a post, originated by myself, on the 22nd about equal
>>>>> height columns. In it Nik Coughlin completely explains the CSS
>>>>> solution, Dorayme has a simple fix for center or one side longer,
>>>>> and I have a drop in javascript for columns anywhere, including
>>>>> rows and rows and rows of floated thumbs.
>>
>>>> For those who missed that thread too:
>>>> http://websiterepairguru.com/test_full_height_columns.html
>>>> Javascript http://www.nrkn.com/3ColEqualPositioned/ Without JS
>>>> http://netweaver.com.au/alt/equalColsSimpleTactic.html Without JS
>>>>> All of those adjust to font or browser resizing.
>>>>> The equal height column Holy Grail has been beat.
>>>> I'm impressed, but not completely convinced. I've tried such things
>>>> before and they (my experiments) collapsed in situations where
>>>> images and other elements were added :-)
>>> Well let us know if you do any experiments!
>> I certainly will! But it will be long before I have time for that.
>> May I suggest that you continue with your holy mission and present a
>> more complex example? :-)
> I'm already using it. I'll post up something later. You know how this
> group is, if they can find something to complain about...
So, don't publish it and keep the illusion you've found the Holy Grail :-)
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Nico
owo.dod@gmail.com wrote:
> On Jan 28, 8:33 pm, "rf"
>> That actually bears clarifying. A-OK-SITE (aka aoksi...@gmail.com) has
>> morfed into usenet.su...@gmail.com.
> You ever think it is you with the problem. You seem to be a real punk.
Which morphs to owo.dod@gmail.com
Anonymity is not guaranteed.
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