Re: Daylight saving in NSW

Re: Daylight saving in NSW

am 31.03.2008 21:20:03 von Ed Mullen

Neredbojias wrote:
> On 30 Mar 2008, Ed Mullen wrote:
>
>>> Which brings me to this request which I make in the most humble and
>>> respectful manner. Would you mind sending me a short test missive
>>> using the form in question? You need to include something in the
>>> "email address or handle" box, but it doesn't have to be any email
>>> address; "Edward" would be fine. I need to see if the thing works
>>> outside of my own domain.
>>>
>>> Thanks much.
>>>
>> Hmm. I tried right-clicking on your "From" field in SeaMonkey and
>> choosing "Compose mail to" option. I made a fabulous email and
>> clicked "Send." Got a lengthy error message (which I cannot begin to
>> relate) and canceled out of the whole process.
>
> Well thank you very much for trying it. Damn, that probably means the form
> only works within the same domain. Yahoo really sucks when it comes to
> form mail
>
> Maybe I'll revert to and update my old form which _did_ work after a
> fashion. Hell, it was no worse and some better than Yahoo's canned form
> even if the latter functioned.
>
> Thanks again.
>
> Um, um, wait a minute... I just reread your message. Right-clicking on
> the "from" field? -Oh, I see! No, that won't work. It's a url, a link;
> you have to double click-it to get to a form. No actual email is involve
> prior to the form; ergo, one's email address, whatever it may or may not
> be, is prefectly safe from spamming. If you include an actual email
> address on the form (which isn't required though some kind of handle is).
> that email address is still safe because it's only submitted by the form
> for reference - never used for actual sending. That (I think) is why Yahoo
> does it that way.
>

Hmm. In SeaMonkey I click your address/link and get a pop-up menu with 4
choices:

Compose mail to
Create filter from
Add to address book
Copy email address

BTW, what's Yahoo got to do with this? You got your script there?

I use Tectite's FormMail. Seems to be pretty good. Very well
documented. http://www.tectite.com/formmailpage.php

--
Ed Mullen
http://edmullen.net
I have found the paradox, that if you love until it hurts, there can be
no more hurt, only more love. - Mother Teresa

Re: Daylight saving in NSW

am 31.03.2008 22:50:44 von Neredbojias

On 31 Mar 2008, Ed Mullen wrote:

>> Um, um, wait a minute... I just reread your message. Right-clicking
>> on the "from" field? -Oh, I see! No, that won't work. It's a url,
>> a link; you have to double click-it to get to a form. No actual
>> email is involve prior to the form; ergo, one's email address,
>> whatever it may or may not be, is prefectly safe from spamming. If
>> you include an actual email address on the form (which isn't required
>> though some kind of handle is). that email address is still safe
>> because it's only submitted by the form for reference - never used
>> for actual sending. That (I think) is why Yahoo does it that way.
>>
>
> Hmm. In SeaMonkey I click your address/link and get a pop-up menu with
> 4 choices:
>
> Compose mail to
> Create filter from
> Add to address book
> Copy email address
>
> BTW, what's Yahoo got to do with this? You got your script there?
>
> I use Tectite's FormMail. Seems to be pretty good. Very well
> documented. http://www.tectite.com/formmailpage.php

Um, yeah. If I understand Mr. Aho right, some news programs automatically
go to a more-or-less "normal" email module to handle it, and in that case
my technique would fail miserably (-because it really isn't email.) Oh
well, it was a hack, anyway, so I'm only upset when I'm sober.

I've bookmarked the tectite page; looks good and I'll check it out later.
I'll probably replace Yahoo's form because even my own super-simple form
didn't do anything less.

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Re: Daylight saving in NSW

am 01.04.2008 03:50:00 von Ed Mullen

Neredbojias wrote:
> On 31 Mar 2008, Ed Mullen wrote:
>
>>> Um, um, wait a minute... I just reread your message. Right-clicking
>>> on the "from" field? -Oh, I see! No, that won't work. It's a url,
>>> a link; you have to double click-it to get to a form. No actual
>>> email is involve prior to the form; ergo, one's email address,
>>> whatever it may or may not be, is prefectly safe from spamming. If
>>> you include an actual email address on the form (which isn't required
>>> though some kind of handle is). that email address is still safe
>>> because it's only submitted by the form for reference - never used
>>> for actual sending. That (I think) is why Yahoo does it that way.
>>>
>> Hmm. In SeaMonkey I click your address/link and get a pop-up menu with
>> 4 choices:
>>
>> Compose mail to
>> Create filter from
>> Add to address book
>> Copy email address
>>
>> BTW, what's Yahoo got to do with this? You got your script there?
>>
>> I use Tectite's FormMail. Seems to be pretty good. Very well
>> documented. http://www.tectite.com/formmailpage.php
>
> Um, yeah. If I understand Mr. Aho right, some news programs automatically
> go to a more-or-less "normal" email module to handle it, and in that case
> my technique would fail miserably (-because it really isn't email.) Oh
> well, it was a hack, anyway, so I'm only upset when I'm sober.

LOL! Ah, geez. I understand /that/ sentiment!right now I am having to
restrain myself from (at 9:46 PM) going and getting a paint brush and
finishing a job in progress. I seem to get much more motivated after a
few drinks. Fortunately I also (at least in the early stages) also know
that four shots of Jim Beam and paint brush do not bode well for anyone.
Especially if one is going to have another for shots of Jim Beam
DURING the project! Yes, age brings wisdom. Or, well, umm, a greater
desire to not make messes one must clean up later.

> I've bookmarked the tectite page; looks good and I'll check it out later.
> I'll probably replace Yahoo's form because even my own super-simple form
> didn't do anything less.

It is working well for me and I do like how well documented it is. Good
luck with it!

--
Ed Mullen
http://edmullen.net
Old dog still learning - please don't shoot yet

Re: Daylight saving in NSW

am 01.04.2008 04:29:45 von Neredbojias

On 31 Mar 2008, Ed Mullen wrote:

>> Um, yeah. If I understand Mr. Aho right, some news programs
>> automatically go to a more-or-less "normal" email module to handle
>> it, and in that case my technique would fail miserably (-because it
>> really isn't email.) Oh well, it was a hack, anyway, so I'm only
>> upset when I'm sober.
>
> LOL! Ah, geez. I understand /that/ sentiment!right now I am having
> to restrain myself from (at 9:46 PM) going and getting a paint brush
> and finishing a job in progress. I seem to get much more motivated
> after a few drinks. Fortunately I also (at least in the early stages)
> also know that four shots of Jim Beam and paint brush do not bode well
> for anyone.
> Especially if one is going to have another for shots of Jim Beam
> DURING the project! Yes, age brings wisdom. Or, well, umm, a greater
> desire to not make messes one must clean up later.

Yes, I've known more than one person who didn't get any wiser as he got
older. -More cunning, perhaps, or shifty, but wiser not in any of the
things which really matter. It's a pity, really, but life goes on
nonetheless.

>> I've bookmarked the tectite page; looks good and I'll check it out
>> later. I'll probably replace Yahoo's form because even my own
>> super-simple form didn't do anything less.
>
> It is working well for me and I do like how well documented it is.
> Good luck with it!

Thank you.

--
Neredbojias
http://www.neredbojias.com/
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Re: Daylight saving in NSW

am 01.04.2008 04:40:43 von Ed Mullen

Neredbojias wrote:
> On 31 Mar 2008, Ed Mullen wrote:
>
>>> Um, yeah. If I understand Mr. Aho right, some news programs
>>> automatically go to a more-or-less "normal" email module to handle
>>> it, and in that case my technique would fail miserably (-because it
>>> really isn't email.) Oh well, it was a hack, anyway, so I'm only
>>> upset when I'm sober.
>> LOL! Ah, geez. I understand /that/ sentiment!right now I am having
>> to restrain myself from (at 9:46 PM) going and getting a paint brush
>> and finishing a job in progress. I seem to get much more motivated
>> after a few drinks. Fortunately I also (at least in the early stages)
>> also know that four shots of Jim Beam and paint brush do not bode well
>> for anyone.
>> Especially if one is going to have another for shots of Jim Beam
>> DURING the project! Yes, age brings wisdom. Or, well, umm, a greater
>> desire to not make messes one must clean up later.
>
> Yes, I've known more than one person who didn't get any wiser as he got
> older. -More cunning, perhaps, or shifty, but wiser not in any of the
> things which really matter. It's a pity, really, but life goes on
> nonetheless.
>
>>> I've bookmarked the tectite page; looks good and I'll check it out
>>> later. I'll probably replace Yahoo's form because even my own
>>> super-simple form didn't do anything less.
>> It is working well for me and I do like how well documented it is.
>> Good luck with it!
>
> Thank you.
>

You're welcome. And, to allay any fears, I have put down the sandpaper
and paint brushes for the evening. I will take up again in the morning
the project. I forsee lots of masking tape and newspapers in my future.

and, I'm informed my wife: "Ok, if we ever have to paint the interior
of the house or do any remodeling again, I'm just f*****g selling the
house and moving!!!" Hey! Build a new one, right? Sheesh. All this
painting and spackling and sanding and stuff?

Oh well, secretly I love it. Manly stuff! Tools involved! Drags on for
days! And then I go: What the hell was I thinking? I coulda paid
someone to do this!!!

--
Ed Mullen
http://edmullen.net
Who so loves believes the impossible. - Elizabeth Barrett Browning

Re: Daylight saving in NSW

am 01.04.2008 07:15:11 von Neredbojias

On 31 Mar 2008, Ed Mullen wrote:

>> Thank you.
>>
>
> You're welcome. And, to allay any fears, I have put down the sandpaper
> and paint brushes for the evening. I will take up again in the morning
> the project. I forsee lots of masking tape and newspapers in my future.
>
> and, I'm informed my wife: "Ok, if we ever have to paint the interior
> of the house or do any remodeling again, I'm just f*****g selling the
> house and moving!!!" Hey! Build a new one, right? Sheesh. All this
> painting and spackling and sanding and stuff?
>
> Oh well, secretly I love it. Manly stuff! Tools involved! Drags on for
> days! And then I go: What the hell was I thinking? I coulda paid
> someone to do this!!!

Sounds like you're part Tim "The Tool Man" Taylor. Anyway, I've always
hated that kind of stuff and work in general. Give me a nice couch with
soft cushions on a quiet, lazy Sunday afternoon and I'm in pig heaven.
I'll be in a better mood, too, unless you forget to wake me up for supper.

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Neredbojias
http://www.neredbojias.com/
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