Re: Microsoft Firewall vs ????

Sebastian G. wrote:

> Obviously the guy wanted the MacBook Air (I'd want it too), and the guys
> who wanted the Wintel notebook didn't manage to prepare the pre-made IE
> exploits fast enough.


IE7 on Vista runs in protected mode and is the most secure browser there
is because of it. Unless of course you run something like OB1 that
doesn't support any scripting at all. Because of your hostile attitude
and lack of objectivity I must end our conversation because you are not
worth my time and are a nasty bullshitter. I hope others are smart
enough to see you for what you really are.

Re: Microsoft Firewall vs ????

Rat River Cemetary wrote:

> Sebastian G. wrote:
>
>> Obviously the guy wanted the MacBook Air (I'd want it too), and the guys
>> who wanted the Wintel notebook didn't manage to prepare the pre-made IE
>> exploits fast enough.
>
>
> IE7 on Vista runs in protected mode and is the most secure browser there
> is because of it.


Nonsense. IE by itself is as easy to compromise as ever, and breaking out of
the protected mode is trivial[1][2].

> Because of your hostile attitude
> and lack of objectivity I must end our conversation because you are not
> worth my time and are a nasty bullshitter. I hope others are smart
> enough to see you for what you really are.

One should rather hope that others are smart enough to not fall for your
obviously ridiculous claims about others.

[1] http://uninformed.org/?v=8&a=6&t=sumry
[2] http://blogs.technet.com/markrussinovich/archive/2007/02/12/ 638372.aspx

Re: Microsoft Firewall vs ????

Rat River Cemetary wrote:
> IE7 on Vista runs in protected mode and is the most secure browser there
> is because of it.

Unless IE stops supporting ActiveX and thus supporting manipulating
arbitrary COM objects, it's a security nightmare and not "the most
secure browser".

ActiveX is a design flaw, and never can be fixed.

Yours,
VB.
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Re: Microsoft Firewall vs ????

Volker Birk wrote:

> Unless IE stops supporting ActiveX and thus supporting manipulating
> arbitrary COM objects, it's a security nightmare and not "the most
> secure browser".
>
> ActiveX is a design flaw, and never can be fixed.
>
> Yours,
> VB.

I use FF with noscipt but nothing can compromise the OS by running IE7
because it runs in protected memory space.

Re: Microsoft Firewall vs ????

Rat River Cemetary wrote:


> I use FF with noscipt but nothing can compromise the OS by running IE7
> because it runs in protected memory space.


Unless you simply break out of it, which is trivial.

Re: Microsoft Firewall vs ????

Rat River Cemetary wrote:
> Volker Birk wrote:
>> Unless IE stops supporting ActiveX and thus supporting manipulating
>> arbitrary COM objects, it's a security nightmare and not "the most
>> secure browser".
>> ActiveX is a design flaw, and never can be fixed.
> I use FF with noscipt but nothing can compromise the OS by running IE7
> because it runs in protected memory space.

That's wrong.

COM offers the possibility for IPC (DCOM, COM+).

Yours,
VB.
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