Re: Problem with a contact me php form. Anyone look please?

On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 08:26:50 +0000, Mike Barnard
wrote:

>On Tue, 25 Mar 2008 20:04:19 -0500, Jerry Stuckle
> wrote:
>
>>Mike Barnard wrote:
>>> Hi.
>>
>>If you don't need to learn php, hire a consultant to fix it for you.
>>
>>This is a group to help PHP programmers, not give you free consulting
>>services.
>
>Ooooooooooo. Who got out of bed the wrong side this morning then? Not
>getting enough? Work, I mean.

I *was* thinking about debugging your code, but... too arrogant - you don't
mock people when you come in and say 'do my work, I don't need to learn it'.
You can ask - with 'please' - but if someone criticizes you, this is not the
way to respond.

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Re: Problem with a contact me php form. Anyone look please?

> I *was* thinking about debugging your code, but... too arrogant - you don't
> mock people when you come in and say 'do my work, I don't need to learn it'.
> You can ask - with 'please' - but if someone criticizes you, this is not the
> way to respond
>

If somebody criticizes him - perhaps you think he should say something
like 'please criticize me some more' ? .


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Re: Problem with a contact me php form. Anyone look please?

Krustov a écrit :
>
>
>
>
>
>> I *was* thinking about debugging your code, but... too arrogant - you don't
>> mock people when you come in and say 'do my work, I don't need to learn it'.
>> You can ask - with 'please' - but if someone criticizes you, this is not the
>> way to respond
>>
>
> If somebody criticizes him - perhaps you think he should say something
> like 'please criticize me some more' ? .

First there is a world between "Criticize me more" and the answer he gave.
Something like "Okay, you're right about it, but I have
reasons/problems/difficulties, . Thus
I asked, hoping for someone with free time to spare to help me." is in
the middle, and nicely expected, may it be a lie or the truth (which I
don't really care about).

Second, one should realize a difference between a real criticism (i.e. a
constructed argue) and a sarcastic reply. Jerry's one was real, he was
not mocking that person but replying accordingly to what was nothing
more than a request for a free consulting service.
There was absolutely no need to mock him in return of this argue, while
I would have understand if Jerry's reply was something like "you're a
lazy person".

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Re: Problem with a contact me php form. Anyone look please?

On Wed, 02 Apr 2008 14:10:15 +0200, Guillaume
wrote:

>Krustov a écrit :
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>> I *was* thinking about debugging your code, but... too arrogant - you don't
>>> mock people when you come in and say 'do my work, I don't need to learn it'.
>>> You can ask - with 'please' - but if someone criticizes you, this is not the
>>> way to respond
>>>
>>
>> If somebody criticizes him - perhaps you think he should say something
>> like 'please criticize me some more' ? .
>
>First there is a world between "Criticize me more" and the answer he gave.

Ignore Krusty. He refuses to use an HTML validator and then spends a
week looking for a missing tag.




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Re: Problem with a contact me php form. Anyone look please?

<1iu6v3199vluc66m38ccai568q8gjn1qga@news.gradwell.net>

> Ignore Krusty. He refuses to use an HTML validator and then spends a
> week looking for a missing tag
>

Why do you tell lies ? .

It was a week before i got around to having a look at it .


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Re: Problem with a contact me php form. Anyone look please?

On Wed, 2 Apr 2008 13:32:02 +0100, Krustov wrote:

>
>
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><1iu6v3199vluc66m38ccai568q8gjn1qga@news.gradwell.net>
>
>> Ignore Krusty. He refuses to use an HTML validator and then spends a
>> week looking for a missing tag
>>
>
>Why do you tell lies ? .
>
>It was a week before i got around to having a look at it .

Yeah, right.


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Re: Problem with a contact me php form. Anyone look please?

On Wed, 2 Apr 2008 12:36:17 +0100, Krustov wrote:

>
>
>
>
>
>> I *was* thinking about debugging your code, but... too arrogant - you don't
>> mock people when you come in and say 'do my work, I don't need to learn it'.
>> You can ask - with 'please' - but if someone criticizes you, this is not the
>> way to respond
>>
>
>If somebody criticizes him - perhaps you think he should say something
>like 'please criticize me some more' ? .

Personally, if I was him, I would take the criticism, not respond and wait if
someone else might offer a helping hand.

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Re: Problem with a contact me php form. Anyone look please?

<317dv3l7h0s9tasiuq1fvbq2n2orp9a04j@4ax.com>

> >> I *was* thinking about debugging your code, but... too arrogant - you don't
> >> mock people when you come in and say 'do my work, I don't need to learn it'.
> >> You can ask - with 'please' - but if someone criticizes you, this is not the
> >> way to respond
> >>
> >
> >If somebody criticizes him - perhaps you think he should say something
> >like 'please criticize me some more' ? .
>
> Personally, if I was him, I would take the criticism, not respond and wait if
> someone else might offer a helping hand
>

Perhaps he doesnt need the help that bad that hes willing to be treated
like a piece of shit .

Quite why some people cant just click on the next unread post if they
arnt willing to help a user is anybodys guess .

Could it be ..... that some posters on here live for the little wanky
ego trips they like to give themsleves .


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Re: Problem with a contact me php form. Anyone look please?

> Or it could be some people get tired of providing free consulting
>

Then stop doing it == problem solved .

Or perhaps somebody is forcing you to do it ? .


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Re: Problem with a contact me php form. Anyone look please?

Krustov wrote:
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>
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> <317dv3l7h0s9tasiuq1fvbq2n2orp9a04j@4ax.com>
>
>>>> I *was* thinking about debugging your code, but... too arrogant - you don't
>>>> mock people when you come in and say 'do my work, I don't need to learn it'.
>>>> You can ask - with 'please' - but if someone criticizes you, this is not the
>>>> way to respond
>>>>
>>> If somebody criticizes him - perhaps you think he should say something
>>> like 'please criticize me some more' ? .
>> Personally, if I was him, I would take the criticism, not respond and wait if
>> someone else might offer a helping hand
>>
>
> Perhaps he doesnt need the help that bad that hes willing to be treated
> like a piece of shit .
>
> Quite why some people cant just click on the next unread post if they
> arnt willing to help a user is anybodys guess .
>
> Could it be ..... that some posters on here live for the little wanky
> ego trips they like to give themsleves .
>
>

Or it could be some people get tired of providing free consulting.

I don't mind helping others who are trying to learn. But not someone
who's too lazy to even try.

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Re: Problem with a contact me php form. Anyone look please?

Krustov wrote:
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>> Or it could be some people get tired of providing free consulting
>>
>
> Then stop doing it == problem solved .
>
> Or perhaps somebody is forcing you to do it ? .
>
>

I don't. Or haven't you noticed?

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Re: Problem with a contact me php form. Anyone look please?

Jerry Stuckle wrote:
> Krustov wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> Or it could be some people get tired of providing free consulting
>>>
>>
>> Then stop doing it == problem solved .
>>
>> Or perhaps somebody is forcing you to do it ? .
>>
>>
>
> I don't. Or haven't you noticed?
>
Those that can, do.
Those that can't, teach.

Re: Problem with a contact me php form. Anyone look please?

The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>> Krustov wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Or it could be some people get tired of providing free consulting
>>>>
>>>
>>> Then stop doing it == problem solved .
>>>
>>> Or perhaps somebody is forcing you to do it ? .
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I don't. Or haven't you noticed?
>>
> Those that can, do.
> Those that can't, teach.
>

Right. Dream on, sucker. Every one of my instructors years of
experience in what they teach. They have to be experts at the matter.

Unlike academia, it's what corporations require from their training
companies.

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Re: Problem with a contact me php form. Anyone look please?

Jerry Stuckle wrote:
> The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>> Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>>> Krustov wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Or it could be some people get tired of providing free consulting
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Then stop doing it == problem solved .
>>>>
>>>> Or perhaps somebody is forcing you to do it ? .
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> I don't. Or haven't you noticed?
>>>
>> Those that can, do.
>> Those that can't, teach.
>>
>
> Right. Dream on, sucker. Every one of my instructors years of
> experience in what they teach.

Years of experience in doing the same small thing?


> They have to be experts at the matter.
>

Really...

> Unlike academia, it's what corporations require from their training
> companies.
>

But is it what they get?

Re: Problem with a contact me php form. Anyone look please?

The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>> The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>> Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>>>> Krustov wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Or it could be some people get tired of providing free consulting
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Then stop doing it == problem solved .
>>>>>
>>>>> Or perhaps somebody is forcing you to do it ? .
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I don't. Or haven't you noticed?
>>>>
>>> Those that can, do.
>>> Those that can't, teach.
>>>
>>
>> Right. Dream on, sucker. Every one of my instructors years of
>> experience in what they teach.
>
> Years of experience in doing the same small thing?
>

Dream on, sucker. Most have been top notch programmers in corporate
environments.

>
>> They have to be experts at the matter.
>>
>
> Really...
>
>> Unlike academia, it's what corporations require from their training
>> companies.
>>
>
> But is it what they get?
>

Damn right they do.

But then we all know those who can't teach become philosophers.


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