Navigation Bar Disappears!

Navigation Bar Disappears!

am 03.04.2008 21:42:00 von aftonforframery

This is similar to a problem I saw someone else had, but there was no real
resolution to it...

I uploaded our new webpage today and everything looks fine until you click
on a link in the navigation bar (the page is in frames) The link opens in the
correct frame, but the frame with my navigation buttons goes blank, what am I
missing??

the page is http://ecframery.com

Thank you in advance!!

Afton

Re: Navigation Bar Disappears!

am 04.04.2008 09:50:40 von Ronx

The navigation fails completely in FireFox. VML graphics - text boxes,
ShapeArt, WordArt etc. should be avoided in Web sites, and NEVER used
where navigation links are involved. VML only works in Internet
Explorer running on Windows, other browsers see poor quality images of
the VML or nothing at all - and an image of a link is as useful as a
photograph of a shilling (Off topic - see
http://goonshowscripts.afraid.org/raw/series06/s06e10.txt and
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Goon_Show )

There is too much VML code in the navigation page to see what is going
on, but I suggest you use conventional images for your links. Looking
at the other pages, I wonder why you are using frames at all - they are
a nuisance for your users and customers since book marking pages is not
possible - a page loaded from a search engine or bookmark will load
without the frameset and navigation.

--
Ron Symonds - Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.

http://www.rxs-enterprises.org/fp




"aftonforframery" wrote in
message news:AA40B068-119E-4326-9992-2A5809ECF089@microsoft.com:

> This is similar to a problem I saw someone else had, but there was no real
> resolution to it...
>
> I uploaded our new webpage today and everything looks fine until you click
> on a link in the navigation bar (the page is in frames) The link opens in the
> correct frame, but the frame with my navigation buttons goes blank, what am I
> missing??
>
> the page is http://ecframery.com
>
> Thank you in advance!!
>
> Afton

Re: Navigation Bar Disappears!

am 04.04.2008 17:36:00 von aftonforframery

It's in frames because that's how my boss likes it :S I'll have to change
those graphics tomorrow...thanks!

"Ronx" wrote:

> The navigation fails completely in FireFox. VML graphics - text boxes,
> ShapeArt, WordArt etc. should be avoided in Web sites, and NEVER used
> where navigation links are involved. VML only works in Internet
> Explorer running on Windows, other browsers see poor quality images of
> the VML or nothing at all - and an image of a link is as useful as a
> photograph of a shilling (Off topic - see
> http://goonshowscripts.afraid.org/raw/series06/s06e10.txt and
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Goon_Show )
>
> There is too much VML code in the navigation page to see what is going
> on, but I suggest you use conventional images for your links. Looking
> at the other pages, I wonder why you are using frames at all - they are
> a nuisance for your users and customers since book marking pages is not
> possible - a page loaded from a search engine or bookmark will load
> without the frameset and navigation.
>
> --
> Ron Symonds - Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
> Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.
>
> http://www.rxs-enterprises.org/fp
>
>
>
>
> "aftonforframery" wrote in
> message news:AA40B068-119E-4326-9992-2A5809ECF089@microsoft.com:
>
> > This is similar to a problem I saw someone else had, but there was no real
> > resolution to it...
> >
> > I uploaded our new webpage today and everything looks fine until you click
> > on a link in the navigation bar (the page is in frames) The link opens in the
> > correct frame, but the frame with my navigation buttons goes blank, what am I
> > missing??
> >
> > the page is http://ecframery.com
> >
> > Thank you in advance!!
> >
> > Afton
>
>

Re: Navigation Bar Disappears!

am 04.04.2008 18:06:30 von webmaster

So, maybe the webmaster should enlighten the boss as to the problems of
using Frames and VML graphics...especially when they are not needed?
If he/she knew the many problems maybe he'd/she'd change their mind.

BTW...your navs are now doubled up and are referencing files on your local
hardrive...are you working with your website opened?



--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Rob Giordano
Microsoft MVP Expression






"aftonforframery" wrote in
message news:E825F105-1A81-4339-87F3-E03BB69107A2@microsoft.com...
| It's in frames because that's how my boss likes it :S I'll have to change
| those graphics tomorrow...thanks!
|
| "Ronx" wrote:
|
| > The navigation fails completely in FireFox. VML graphics - text boxes,
| > ShapeArt, WordArt etc. should be avoided in Web sites, and NEVER used
| > where navigation links are involved. VML only works in Internet
| > Explorer running on Windows, other browsers see poor quality images of
| > the VML or nothing at all - and an image of a link is as useful as a
| > photograph of a shilling (Off topic - see
| > http://goonshowscripts.afraid.org/raw/series06/s06e10.txt and
| > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Goon_Show )
| >
| > There is too much VML code in the navigation page to see what is going
| > on, but I suggest you use conventional images for your links. Looking
| > at the other pages, I wonder why you are using frames at all - they are
| > a nuisance for your users and customers since book marking pages is not
| > possible - a page loaded from a search engine or bookmark will load
| > without the frameset and navigation.
| >
| > --
| > Ron Symonds - Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
| > Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.
| >
| > http://www.rxs-enterprises.org/fp
| >
| >
| >
| >
| > "aftonforframery" wrote in
| > message news:AA40B068-119E-4326-9992-2A5809ECF089@microsoft.com:
| >
| > > This is similar to a problem I saw someone else had, but there was no
real
| > > resolution to it...
| > >
| > > I uploaded our new webpage today and everything looks fine until you
click
| > > on a link in the navigation bar (the page is in frames) The link opens
in the
| > > correct frame, but the frame with my navigation buttons goes blank,
what am I
| > > missing??
| > >
| > > the page is http://ecframery.com
| > >
| > > Thank you in advance!!
| > >
| > > Afton
| >
| >