If I put text offscreen but first in my html file, will it cause a problem?

My idea is to try and get googles crawler to read good, useful text
but I don't want it seen in the header, a bit like meta data. [1] So
if I give it a position relative, waaaaaaay off screen like -10000
will it cause any problems?

I've experimented and it's pushing the content of the first div down,
even though it is off screen and positioned at -500 up as well. It's
not online.



...............

Lots of good stuff about the business that google can index but that I
don't really want seen right at the top of the page.

Re: If I put text offscreen but first in my html file, will it cause a problem?

Mike Barnard wrote in
news:9dufv35ti10uf1r27qstnof06o5emb7pbl@4ax.com:

> My idea is to try and get googles crawler to read good, useful text
> but I don't want it seen in the header, a bit like meta data. [1] So
> if I give it a position relative, waaaaaaay off screen like -10000
> will it cause any problems?

http://www.google.com/support/webmasters/bin/answer.py?hl=en &answer=66355


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Re: If I put text offscreen but first in my html file, will it cause a problem?

On Sat, 05 Apr 2008 22:41:43 GMT, rf wrote:

>Mike Barnard wrote in
>news:9dufv35ti10uf1r27qstnof06o5emb7pbl@4ax.com:
>
>> My idea is to try and get googles crawler to read good, useful text
>> but I don't want it seen in the header, a bit like meta data. [1] So
>> if I give it a position relative, waaaaaaay off screen like -10000
>> will it cause any problems?
>
>http://www.google.com/support/webmasters/bin/answer.py?hl=e n&answer=66355

Hi and thanks.

I knew it wasn't an original idea, by far, but it seemed reasonable as
it's being honest about the site, not decietful trying to be one thing
but looking another.

But, I'll ditch that idea.

Re: If I put text offscreen but first in my html file, will it causea problem?

rf wrote:
> Mike Barnard wrote in
> news:9dufv35ti10uf1r27qstnof06o5emb7pbl@4ax.com:
>
>> My idea is to try and get googles crawler to read good, useful text
>> but I don't want it seen in the header, a bit like meta data. [1] So
>> if I give it a position relative, waaaaaaay off screen like -10000
>> will it cause any problems?
>
> http://www.google.com/support/webmasters/bin/answer.py?hl=en &answer=66355
>

And http://www.google.com/support/webmasters/bin/answer.py?answe r=66353.

"If your site is perceived to contain hidden text and links that are
deceptive in intent, your site may be removed from the Google index, and
will not appear in search results pages. When evaluating your site to
see if it includes hidden text or links, look for anything that's not
easily viewable by visitors of your site. Are any text or links there
solely for search engines rather than visitors?"

Re: If I put text offscreen but first in my html file, will it cause a problem?

On Sun, 06 Apr 2008 08:21:57 -0400, Harlan Messinger
wrote:

>rf wrote:
>> Mike Barnard wrote in
>> news:9dufv35ti10uf1r27qstnof06o5emb7pbl@4ax.com:
>>
>>> My idea is to try and get googles crawler to read good, useful text
>>> but I don't want it seen in the header, a bit like meta data. [1] So
>>> if I give it a position relative, waaaaaaay off screen like -10000
>>> will it cause any problems?
>>
>> http://www.google.com/support/webmasters/bin/answer.py?hl=en &answer=66355
>>
>
>And http://www.google.com/support/webmasters/bin/answer.py?answe r=66353.
>
>"If your site is perceived to contain hidden text and links that are
>deceptive in intent, your site may be removed from the Google index, and
>will not appear in search results pages. When evaluating your site to
>see if it includes hidden text or links, look for anything that's not
>easily viewable by visitors of your site. Are any text or links there
>solely for search engines rather than visitors?"

And thanks to you too.

Although I am not going to try this now, I think the important word
there is "deceptive". If I have a paragraph that correctly describes
my site which is intended for search engines, what is actually *wrong*
with that? If I had designed my site better, too late for that today,
then I would have that paragraph in the right place. But I haven't so
I'm stuck with whatever garbage they happen to pick up.

With billions of individaul web pages out there it's impossible to
select the deceptive from the not, so I understand thier stance.

Re: If I put text offscreen but first in my html file, will it cause a problem?

"Mike Barnard" wrote in message
news:9dufv35ti10uf1r27qstnof06o5emb7pbl@4ax.com...
> My idea is to try and get googles crawler to read good, useful text
> but I don't want it seen in the header, a bit like meta data. [1] So
> if I give it a position relative, waaaaaaay off screen like -10000
> will it cause any problems?
>

I'm in the middle of a grovelling process after the big G removed my site
for (I assume) similar infractions. They're no slouches when it comes to
monitoring any naughtiness with your AdSense ads either.

For SEO, there's a group alt.internet.search-engines which is very useful.

Site's looking great BTW. Shame to lose the silly photo!

+mrcakey