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"classgetter.com" wrote in message
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Keep pumping those PHP and CGI proxies out, buddy ;) Now that
I am using a radio streaming service more compatable with those
proxies, there is a good chance I may get back all the at-work
listeners I lost last August when Live 365 mucked around with
their system.

Someone has set up an encrypted proxy service in Hanoi, Vietnam
I have seen connections from. So whoever was listening through
that site would certainly have their network admins perplexed,
wondering what someone is doing connecting to a strange
machine in Vietnam.

Re: Bypass School And Work Filters www.classgetter.com

In article , chilly8@hotmail.com says...
> Someone has set up an encrypted proxy service in Hanoi, Vietnam
> I have seen connections from. So whoever was listening through
> that site would certainly have their network admins perplexed,
> wondering what someone is doing connecting to a strange
> machine in Vietnam.

Again, it's simple to see and catch, you keep thinking this is some kind
of magic, finding people using an ENCRYPTED proxy is simple, even you
could do it - maybe not you.

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"Leythos" wrote in message
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> In article , chilly8@hotmail.com says...
>> Someone has set up an encrypted proxy service in Hanoi, Vietnam
>> I have seen connections from. So whoever was listening through
>> that site would certainly have their network admins perplexed,
>> wondering what someone is doing connecting to a strange
>> machine in Vietnam.
>
> Again, it's simple to see and catch, you keep thinking this is some kind
> of magic, finding people using an ENCRYPTED proxy is simple, even you
> could do it - maybe not you.
>

However, with the data encrypted, there is no way an admin
is going to find out what is going in.

And there is now one EXPENSIVE VPN solution that uses
a proprietary encryption scheme, that cannot be intercepted
via man-in-the-middle attacks. This US$3200 VPN package
is the BEST on the MARKET, IMO, if you really want to
have your activities not be discovered. The proprietary
1024-bit military grade encryption cannot be eavesdropped
upon.

This program uses HEAVY encryption wih VPN. With this
VPN server running, I KNOW that when I go to China,
to broadcast a figure skating event, I can use Skype to
run my talk show, despite Skype being illegal in China,
and the Chinese authorities will NEVER know that I
up to, because the proprietary encryption cannot be
compromised with man-in-the-middle attacks, and
cannot otherwise be cracked, analysed, monitored
or sniffed.

Anyone on your network could have this software
installed on their PC at home, have a broadband
connection (with multiple IPs), and can do what
they want on the Net, and you will not be able to
monitor it.

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Chilly8 wrote:

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> "Leythos" wrote in message
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>> In article , chilly8@hotmail.com says...
>>> Someone has set up an encrypted proxy service in Hanoi, Vietnam
>>> I have seen connections from. So whoever was listening through
>>> that site would certainly have their network admins perplexed,
>>> wondering what someone is doing connecting to a strange
>>> machine in Vietnam.
>> Again, it's simple to see and catch, you keep thinking this is some kind
>> of magic, finding people using an ENCRYPTED proxy is simple, even you
>> could do it - maybe not you.
>>
>
> However, with the data encrypted, there is no way an admin
> is going to find out what is going in.


Unless he's monitoring the endpoint, you fucking ignorant.

> Anyone on your network could have this software
> installed on their PC at home, have a broadband
> connection (with multiple IPs), and can do what
> they want on the Net,


Or not, since one can detect and block, you fucking ignorant.

> and you will not be able to monitor it.


One would still be able to monitor traffic and timing statistics, you
fucking ignorant.

Re: Bypass School And Work Filters www.classgetter.com

On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 04:19:41 -0700, Chilly8 wrote:

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>> Bypass School And Work Filters www.classgetter.com
>
>
> Keep pumping those PHP and CGI proxies out, buddy ;) Now that
> I am using a radio streaming service more compatable with those
> proxies, there is a good chance I may get back all the at-work
> listeners I lost last August when Live 365 mucked around with
> their system.
>
> Someone has set up an encrypted proxy service in Hanoi, Vietnam
> I have seen connections from. So whoever was listening through
> that site would certainly have their network admins perplexed,
> wondering what someone is doing connecting to a strange
> machine in Vietnam.

We fired a few people for wasting bandwith!

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"God Rudy" wrote in message
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> On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 04:19:41 -0700, Chilly8 wrote:
>
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>> "classgetter.com" wrote in message
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>>> Bypass School And Work Filters www.classgetter.com
>>
>>
>> Keep pumping those PHP and CGI proxies out, buddy ;) Now that
>> I am using a radio streaming service more compatable with those
>> proxies, there is a good chance I may get back all the at-work
>> listeners I lost last August when Live 365 mucked around with
>> their system.
>>
>> Someone has set up an encrypted proxy service in Hanoi, Vietnam
>> I have seen connections from. So whoever was listening through
>> that site would certainly have their network admins perplexed,
>> wondering what someone is doing connecting to a strange
>> machine in Vietnam.
>
> We fired a few people for wasting bandwith!
>

Be careful. Unless you have the actual CONTENT of what
was being downloaded, you had better NOT give ANY
reference, one way or the other, if future employers call.
Just say that they worked they worked there during a
certain time period, but do NOT give any reference, good
OR bad. Otherwise, they might SUE YOUR *ASS*
OFF for defamation. This is why encryption can help
youl. Sure they can still FIRE you, but WITHOUT the
CONTENT of what was being downloaded, they do
not DARE say anything to your future employer or
employers

That is the one caveat of firing somoene for inappropriate
Internet usage. Unless you have the actual CONTENT of
that was being downloading, you do not DARE give
ANY negative reference to future employers. ONLY
say that they worked there during a certain time period,
and end the conversation there.

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"Chilly8" wrote in message
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> "classgetter.com" wrote in message
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>> Bypass School And Work Filters www.classgetter.com
>
>
> Keep pumping those PHP and CGI proxies out, buddy ;) Now that
> I am using a radio streaming service more compatable with those
> proxies, there is a good chance I may get back all the at-work
> listeners I lost last August when Live 365 mucked around with
> their system.
>
> Someone has set up an encrypted proxy service in Hanoi, Vietnam
> I have seen connections from. So whoever was listening through
> that site would certainly have their network admins perplexed,
> wondering what someone is doing connecting to a strange
> machine in Vietnam.
>

Other people are runnig public Tor entry points now. I found one
in Canada that is in one of the lists of open proxies. So anyone
who wants to use Tor where the machine is locked down
against new software installation can change the browser's
proxy settings to use this proxy.

Of course, he is FAR more likely to be blocked, then I
am. Becusae they did not change the port number to
something other than 8118, it will be a DEAD GIVEWAY
in the logs, when admins see connections to port 8118
on a strange computer in Canada, or to the Socks port
on port 9050.

If you are going to run a pubilc Tor entry proxy, like I do,
here is a nickels worth of free advice. Change the ports
to something OTHER than 8118 (HTTP) or 9050(Socks),
otherwise it will be a DEAD GIVEAWAY they corporate
network admins start sesing a connetion to port 8118 for
HTTP or 9050 for Socks.

This is why I set my Tor entry proxy to other ports,
so it will not be so OBVIOUS to admins that someone
is using a Tor entry proxy. All any admin would have
to do is Google port 8118, and they would quickly
find out that it is used by Tor and Privoxy.

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"Sebastian G." wrote in message
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> Chilly8 wrote:
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>> "Leythos" wrote in message
>> news:MPG.2272722ad702fd8a9896db@adfree.usenet.com...
>>> In article , chilly8@hotmail.com says...
>>>> Someone has set up an encrypted proxy service in Hanoi, Vietnam
>>>> I have seen connections from. So whoever was listening through
>>>> that site would certainly have their network admins perplexed,
>>>> wondering what someone is doing connecting to a strange
>>>> machine in Vietnam.
>>> Again, it's simple to see and catch, you keep thinking this is some kind
>>> of magic, finding people using an ENCRYPTED proxy is simple, even you
>>> could do it - maybe not you.
>>>
>>
>> However, with the data encrypted, there is no way an admin
>> is going to find out what is going in.
>
>
> Unless he's monitoring the endpoint, you fucking ignorant.

"monitoring the endpoint" will do not good, is the connetion
is encrypted.

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Chilly8 wrote, On 19/04/08 01:37:
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> "God Rudy" wrote in message
> news:pan.2008.04.18.21.09.40.384965@mail.attic.ccc...
>> On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 04:19:41 -0700, Chilly8 wrote:
>>
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>>>
>>> "classgetter.com" wrote in message
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>>>> Bypass School And Work Filters www.classgetter.com
>>>
>>> Keep pumping those PHP and CGI proxies out, buddy ;) Now that
>>> I am using a radio streaming service more compatable with those
>>> proxies, there is a good chance I may get back all the at-work
>>> listeners I lost last August when Live 365 mucked around with
>>> their system.
>>>
>>> Someone has set up an encrypted proxy service in Hanoi, Vietnam
>>> I have seen connections from. So whoever was listening through
>>> that site would certainly have their network admins perplexed,
>>> wondering what someone is doing connecting to a strange
>>> machine in Vietnam.
>> We fired a few people for wasting bandwith!
>
> Be careful. Unless you have the actual CONTENT of what
> was being downloaded, you had better NOT give ANY
> reference, one way or the other, if future employers call.

No, you don't need to know that. All you have to be able to do is prove
that you have a policy preventing them from using proxies/VPNs/whatever
and then show that they did, you don't need to show what they used it
for only that they used it in breach of policy.

> Just say that they worked they worked there during a
> certain time period, but do NOT give any reference, good
> OR bad. Otherwise, they might SUE YOUR *ASS*
> OFF for defamation. This is why encryption can help
> youl. Sure they can still FIRE you, but WITHOUT the
> CONTENT of what was being downloaded, they do
> not DARE say anything to your future employer or
> employers

Even if that is true the mere fact that the employment was terminated
and it was not redundancy will count against the person. If the person
ends up with lots of short periods of employment it will look even worse
even if the employers will not specify why the employment was terminated.

> That is the one caveat of firing somoene for inappropriate
> Internet usage. Unless you have the actual CONTENT of
> that was being downloading, you do not DARE give
> ANY negative reference to future employers. ONLY
> say that they worked there during a certain time period,
> and end the conversation there.

Most companies in the UK will only do that anyway. I used to work for a
large company and that was the official policy even if the person was
still employed and was a perfect employee.
--
Flash Gordon

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Chilly8 wrote, On 19/04/08 01:58:
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>>> Bypass School And Work Filters www.classgetter.com
>>
>> Keep pumping those PHP and CGI proxies out, buddy ;) Now that
>> I am using a radio streaming service more compatable with those
>> proxies, there is a good chance I may get back all the at-work
>> listeners I lost last August when Live 365 mucked around with
>> their system.
>>
>> Someone has set up an encrypted proxy service in Hanoi, Vietnam
>> I have seen connections from. So whoever was listening through
>> that site would certainly have their network admins perplexed,
>> wondering what someone is doing connecting to a strange
>> machine in Vietnam.
>>
>
> Other people are runnig public Tor entry points now. I found one
> in Canada that is in one of the lists of open proxies. So anyone
> who wants to use Tor where the machine is locked down
> against new software installation can change the browser's
> proxy settings to use this proxy.

Not if the admin knows what he is doing. Machines should be locked down
so that people cannot change the proxy setting (or any other important
and sometimes unimportant setting).



> This is why I set my Tor entry proxy to other ports,
> so it will not be so OBVIOUS to admins that someone
> is using a Tor entry proxy. All any admin would have
> to do is Google port 8118, and they would quickly
> find out that it is used by Tor and Privoxy.

Or I could just block everything not known to be allowed. Or I could
filter on the actual content (Linux kernels have had this ability for a
while) rather than on what the port is blocking encrypted connections of
any kind on ports or to places I don't know to be allowed.

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Chilly8 wrote, On 19/04/08 10:12:
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> "Sebastian G." wrote in message
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>> Chilly8 wrote:
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>>> "Leythos" wrote in message
>>> news:MPG.2272722ad702fd8a9896db@adfree.usenet.com...
>>>> In article , chilly8@hotmail.com says...
>>>>> Someone has set up an encrypted proxy service in Hanoi, Vietnam
>>>>> I have seen connections from. So whoever was listening through
>>>>> that site would certainly have their network admins perplexed,
>>>>> wondering what someone is doing connecting to a strange
>>>>> machine in Vietnam.
>>>> Again, it's simple to see and catch, you keep thinking this is some kind
>>>> of magic, finding people using an ENCRYPTED proxy is simple, even you
>>>> could do it - maybe not you.
>>>>
>>> However, with the data encrypted, there is no way an admin
>>> is going to find out what is going in.
>>
>> Unless he's monitoring the endpoint, you fucking ignorant.
>
> "monitoring the endpoint" will do not good, is the connetion
> is encrypted.

It took me under a minute to find software I (as an admin) could install
on users PCs to monitor all of the URLs visited and even tools that
allow monitoring page content. These tools integrate in to the browser
(they support multiple browsers) and monitor the browser rather than the
network connection, so they are monitoring before outbound data is
encrypted and after inbound data in decrypted, so it matters not whether
the browsing is through an encrypted tunnel.
--
Flash Gordon

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In article , chilly8@hotmail.com says...
> "Leythos" wrote in message
> news:MPG.2272722ad702fd8a9896db@adfree.usenet.com...
> > In article , chilly8@hotmail.com says...
> >> Someone has set up an encrypted proxy service in Hanoi, Vietnam
> >> I have seen connections from. So whoever was listening through
> >> that site would certainly have their network admins perplexed,
> >> wondering what someone is doing connecting to a strange
> >> machine in Vietnam.
> >
> > Again, it's simple to see and catch, you keep thinking this is some kind
> > of magic, finding people using an ENCRYPTED proxy is simple, even you
> > could do it - maybe not you.
> >
>
> However, with the data encrypted, there is no way an admin
> is going to find out what is going in.

But you don't understand the point - they have no school requirement for
External VPN's - so they get busted for an easy to spot infraction.

--
- Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum.
- Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a
drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist"
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In article , chilly8@hotmail.com says...
> "God Rudy" wrote in message
> news:pan.2008.04.18.21.09.40.384965@mail.attic.ccc...
> > On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 04:19:41 -0700, Chilly8 wrote:
> >
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> >> "classgetter.com" wrote in message
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> >>> Bypass School And Work Filters www.classgetter.com
> >>
> >>
> >> Keep pumping those PHP and CGI proxies out, buddy ;) Now that
> >> I am using a radio streaming service more compatable with those
> >> proxies, there is a good chance I may get back all the at-work
> >> listeners I lost last August when Live 365 mucked around with
> >> their system.
> >>
> >> Someone has set up an encrypted proxy service in Hanoi, Vietnam
> >> I have seen connections from. So whoever was listening through
> >> that site would certainly have their network admins perplexed,
> >> wondering what someone is doing connecting to a strange
> >> machine in Vietnam.
> >
> > We fired a few people for wasting bandwith!
> >
>
> Be careful. Unless you have the actual CONTENT of what
> was being downloaded, you had better NOT give ANY
> reference, one way or the other, if future employers call.
> Just say that they worked they worked there during a
> certain time period, but do NOT give any reference, good
> OR bad. Otherwise, they might SUE YOUR *ASS*
> OFF for defamation.

Wrong again, since the BANDWITH IS A COMPANY RESOURCE they are known to
have been improperly useing company resources, effectively stealing.

You could say that were fired for network abuse and leave it at that.

--
- Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum.
- Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a
drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist"
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Re: Bypass School And Work Filters www.classgetter.com

God Rudy wrote:
> We fired a few people for wasting bandwith!

"Those who're supposing, bandwidth is for free,
are thinkin' money is growin' on directory tree" ;-)

SCNR,
VB.
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"Leythos" wrote in message
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> In article , chilly8@hotmail.com says...
>> "God Rudy" wrote in message
>> news:pan.2008.04.18.21.09.40.384965@mail.attic.ccc...
>> > On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 04:19:41 -0700, Chilly8 wrote:
>> >
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>> >> "classgetter.com" wrote in message
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>> >>> Bypass School And Work Filters www.classgetter.com
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Keep pumping those PHP and CGI proxies out, buddy ;) Now that
>> >> I am using a radio streaming service more compatable with those
>> >> proxies, there is a good chance I may get back all the at-work
>> >> listeners I lost last August when Live 365 mucked around with
>> >> their system.
>> >>
>> >> Someone has set up an encrypted proxy service in Hanoi, Vietnam
>> >> I have seen connections from. So whoever was listening through
>> >> that site would certainly have their network admins perplexed,
>> >> wondering what someone is doing connecting to a strange
>> >> machine in Vietnam.
>> >
>> > We fired a few people for wasting bandwith!
>> >
>>
>> Be careful. Unless you have the actual CONTENT of what
>> was being downloaded, you had better NOT give ANY
>> reference, one way or the other, if future employers call.
>> Just say that they worked they worked there during a
>> certain time period, but do NOT give any reference, good
>> OR bad. Otherwise, they might SUE YOUR *ASS*
>> OFF for defamation.
>
> Wrong again, since the BANDWITH IS A COMPANY RESOURCE they are known to
> have been improperly useing company resources, effectively stealing.
>
> You could say that were fired for network abuse and leave it at that.

That sitll might keep you form getting you ass sued off. It is best
just to say they worked there between a certain set of dates, and
end it there. The best policy is to not say ANYTHING, other
than that they worked between certain set of dates, and say
NOTHING beyond that.

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"Leythos" wrote in message
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> In article , chilly8@hotmail.com says...
>> "Leythos" wrote in message
>> news:MPG.2272722ad702fd8a9896db@adfree.usenet.com...
>> > In article , chilly8@hotmail.com says...
>> >> Someone has set up an encrypted proxy service in Hanoi, Vietnam
>> >> I have seen connections from. So whoever was listening through
>> >> that site would certainly have their network admins perplexed,
>> >> wondering what someone is doing connecting to a strange
>> >> machine in Vietnam.
>> >
>> > Again, it's simple to see and catch, you keep thinking this is some
>> > kind
>> > of magic, finding people using an ENCRYPTED proxy is simple, even you
>> > could do it - maybe not you.
>> >
>>
>> However, with the data encrypted, there is no way an admin
>> is going to find out what is going in.
>
> But you don't understand the point - they have no school requirement for
> External VPN's - so they get busted for an easy to spot infraction.


Well, with the EXTREME rules that Bob Jones University has, I
canont blame them for looking for every POSSIBLE way to
hide their activities. The no-tv-in-the-dorms rule is really tight,
so I can cannot blame BJU students for using my VPN service
to watch NCAA March Madness through my encrypted VPN
service. KPIX, the CBS affliate in San Francisco, can be watched
through TVU, and if they used an encrypted VPN service, such
as mine, the admins will NEVER know that students were
watching broadcast TV, in violation of college rules against watching
broadcast TV in the dorms, specifically the NCAA post season
basketball tournament.

And I was NOT breaking ANY laws, by allowing BJU students
to watch the NCAA playoffs and finals throuigh MY server.
In other words, Bob Jones University CANNOT prosecute
me, for allowing any BJU students to bypass the school filters
and watch the NCAA basketball tournament. Since I GAVE
them logins and passwords to my machine, they, in fact,
had PERMISSION to access my machine, so neither, they, or
I, could be prosecuted, either under federal law, or South
Carolina state law (BJU is in South Carolina).

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"Flash Gordon" wrote in message
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> Chilly8 wrote, On 19/04/08 01:58:
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>> "Chilly8" wrote in message
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>>> "classgetter.com" wrote in message
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>>>> Bypass School And Work Filters www.classgetter.com
>>>
>>> Keep pumping those PHP and CGI proxies out, buddy ;) Now that
>>> I am using a radio streaming service more compatable with those
>>> proxies, there is a good chance I may get back all the at-work
>>> listeners I lost last August when Live 365 mucked around with
>>> their system.
>>>
>>> Someone has set up an encrypted proxy service in Hanoi, Vietnam
>>> I have seen connections from. So whoever was listening through
>>> that site would certainly have their network admins perplexed,
>>> wondering what someone is doing connecting to a strange
>>> machine in Vietnam.
>>>
>>
>> Other people are runnig public Tor entry points now. I found one
>> in Canada that is in one of the lists of open proxies. So anyone
>> who wants to use Tor where the machine is locked down
>> against new software installation can change the browser's
>> proxy settings to use this proxy.
>
> Not if the admin knows what he is doing. Machines should be locked down so
> that people cannot change the proxy setting (or any other important and
> sometimes unimportant setting).

However, Firefox cannot be locked down against proxy setting
changes. I know of some people who use Firefox from work,
to circumvent the fact that IE was locked down against proxy
setting changes.

This is why I had to change my radio station's streaming
service to something that would be Firefox compatable.
A lot of people were listening from work using this one
"no-install" version of Firefox that apparently exists. Just
download and use without installing.

This is why a lot of businesses will continue to use Internet
Explorer, is Firefox has the one flaw of NOT being able
to lock down the proxy settings.


>
>
>
>> This is why I set my Tor entry proxy to other ports,
>> so it will not be so OBVIOUS to admins that someone
>> is using a Tor entry proxy. All any admin would have
>> to do is Google port 8118, and they would quickly
>> find out that it is used by Tor and Privoxy.
>
> Or I could just block everything not known to be allowed. Or I could
> filter on the actual content (Linux kernels have had this ability for a

However, WINDOWS is a MUST for business. When I was
in college in a business major, it was DRUMMED INTO US,
that Windows is a MUST for computing existence, in
business, and that Bill Gates is GOD, when it comes to
business computing.

There is no POSSIBLE way a business can go totally
Windows-free. Windows is a MUST for computing
existence.

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Chilly8 wrote, On 20/04/08 04:07:
> X-No-Archive: Yes
>
>
> "Flash Gordon" wrote in message
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>> Chilly8 wrote, On 19/04/08 01:58:
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>>>>> Bypass School And Work Filters www.classgetter.com
>>>> Keep pumping those PHP and CGI proxies out, buddy ;) Now that
>>>> I am using a radio streaming service more compatable with those
>>>> proxies, there is a good chance I may get back all the at-work
>>>> listeners I lost last August when Live 365 mucked around with
>>>> their system.
>>>>
>>>> Someone has set up an encrypted proxy service in Hanoi, Vietnam
>>>> I have seen connections from. So whoever was listening through
>>>> that site would certainly have their network admins perplexed,
>>>> wondering what someone is doing connecting to a strange
>>>> machine in Vietnam.
>>>>
>>> Other people are runnig public Tor entry points now. I found one
>>> in Canada that is in one of the lists of open proxies. So anyone
>>> who wants to use Tor where the machine is locked down
>>> against new software installation can change the browser's
>>> proxy settings to use this proxy.
>> Not if the admin knows what he is doing. Machines should be locked down so
>> that people cannot change the proxy setting (or any other important and
>> sometimes unimportant setting).
>
> However, Firefox cannot be locked down against proxy setting
> changes. I know of some people who use Firefox from work,
> to circumvent the fact that IE was locked down against proxy
> setting changes.

So how will you use firefox when the PC is licked down so you can't
install or run unapproved SW?

Some companies don't lock things down, that does not mean it isn't easy
to do.



>>> This is why I set my Tor entry proxy to other ports,
>>> so it will not be so OBVIOUS to admins that someone
>>> is using a Tor entry proxy. All any admin would have
>>> to do is Google port 8118, and they would quickly
>>> find out that it is used by Tor and Privoxy.
>> Or I could just block everything not known to be allowed. Or I could
>> filter on the actual content (Linux kernels have had this ability for a
>
> However, WINDOWS is a MUST for business.

Complete rubbish. In any case, I was referring to what you use as a
firewall, and any sensible organisation will not be using Windows as a
firewall. They often won't use Linux either, but commercial firewalls
have all sorts of useful tricks like this as well.

> When I was
> in college in a business major, it was DRUMMED INTO US,
> that Windows is a MUST for computing existence, in
> business, and that Bill Gates is GOD, when it comes to
> business computing.

All the errors in this have already been pointed out.

> There is no POSSIBLE way a business can go totally
> Windows-free. Windows is a MUST for computing
> existence.

Apart from the fact that this is wrong it is also irrelevant. Filtering
like this would not be done on the users PC it is done on whatever you
use as a firewall. I had assumed this was obvious (and I'm sure it is to
everyone here apart from you).
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> However, Firefox cannot be locked down against proxy setting
> changes. I know of some people who use Firefox from work,
> to circumvent the fact that IE was locked down against proxy
> setting changes.

There is no need to "lockdown" a browser to control
outgoing traffic.

> However, WINDOWS is a MUST for business.

Not really.

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In article , chilly8@hotmail.com says...
>
>
> "Leythos" wrote in message
> news:MPG.227424f01d4413c49896e0@adfree.usenet.com...
> > In article , chilly8@hotmail.com says...
> >> "God Rudy" wrote in message
> >> news:pan.2008.04.18.21.09.40.384965@mail.attic.ccc...
> >> > On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 04:19:41 -0700, Chilly8 wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> "classgetter.com" wrote in message
> >> >> news:01607c6a-6d2a-4d23-8f88-9b757771c8bc@m1g2000pre.googleg roups.com...
> >> >>> Bypass School And Work Filters www.classgetter.com
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Keep pumping those PHP and CGI proxies out, buddy ;) Now that
> >> >> I am using a radio streaming service more compatable with those
> >> >> proxies, there is a good chance I may get back all the at-work
> >> >> listeners I lost last August when Live 365 mucked around with
> >> >> their system.
> >> >>
> >> >> Someone has set up an encrypted proxy service in Hanoi, Vietnam
> >> >> I have seen connections from. So whoever was listening through
> >> >> that site would certainly have their network admins perplexed,
> >> >> wondering what someone is doing connecting to a strange
> >> >> machine in Vietnam.
> >> >
> >> > We fired a few people for wasting bandwith!
> >> >
> >>
> >> Be careful. Unless you have the actual CONTENT of what
> >> was being downloaded, you had better NOT give ANY
> >> reference, one way or the other, if future employers call.
> >> Just say that they worked they worked there during a
> >> certain time period, but do NOT give any reference, good
> >> OR bad. Otherwise, they might SUE YOUR *ASS*
> >> OFF for defamation.
> >
> > Wrong again, since the BANDWITH IS A COMPANY RESOURCE they are known to
> > have been improperly useing company resources, effectively stealing.
> >
> > You could say that were fired for network abuse and leave it at that.
>
> That sitll might keep you form getting you ass sued off. It is best
> just to say they worked there between a certain set of dates, and
> end it there. The best policy is to not say ANYTHING, other
> than that they worked between certain set of dates, and say
> NOTHING beyond that.

And, you seem to be missing the point, they would have still been fired
or punished for unauthorized traffic, still caught easily, still screwed
for following your directions.

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In article , chilly8@hotmail.com says...
> "Leythos" wrote in message
> news:MPG.2274247e2a65882d9896df@adfree.usenet.com...
> > In article , chilly8@hotmail.com says...
> >> "Leythos" wrote in message
> >> news:MPG.2272722ad702fd8a9896db@adfree.usenet.com...
> >> > In article , chilly8@hotmail.com says...
> >> >> Someone has set up an encrypted proxy service in Hanoi, Vietnam
> >> >> I have seen connections from. So whoever was listening through
> >> >> that site would certainly have their network admins perplexed,
> >> >> wondering what someone is doing connecting to a strange
> >> >> machine in Vietnam.
> >> >
> >> > Again, it's simple to see and catch, you keep thinking this is some
> >> > kind
> >> > of magic, finding people using an ENCRYPTED proxy is simple, even you
> >> > could do it - maybe not you.
> >> >
> >>
> >> However, with the data encrypted, there is no way an admin
> >> is going to find out what is going in.
> >
> > But you don't understand the point - they have no school requirement for
> > External VPN's - so they get busted for an easy to spot infraction.
>
>
> Well, with the EXTREME rules that Bob Jones University has, I
> canont blame them for looking for every POSSIBLE way to
> hide their activities.

Except they are not HIDING their activities, they are forming a
connection to an unauthorized end-point.

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In article , chilly8@hotmail.com says...
> "Flash Gordon" wrote in message
> news:dhupd5xqa2.ln2@news.flash-gordon.me.uk...
> > Chilly8 wrote, On 19/04/08 01:58:
> >> X-No-Archive: Yes
> >>
> >> "Chilly8" wrote in message
> >> news:fua04k$gl6$1@aioe.org...
> >>> X-No-Archive: Yes
> >>>
> >>> "classgetter.com" wrote in message
> >>> news:01607c6a-6d2a-4d23-8f88-9b757771c8bc@m1g2000pre.googleg roups.com...
> >>>> Bypass School And Work Filters www.classgetter.com
> >>>
> >>> Keep pumping those PHP and CGI proxies out, buddy ;) Now that
> >>> I am using a radio streaming service more compatable with those
> >>> proxies, there is a good chance I may get back all the at-work
> >>> listeners I lost last August when Live 365 mucked around with
> >>> their system.
> >>>
> >>> Someone has set up an encrypted proxy service in Hanoi, Vietnam
> >>> I have seen connections from. So whoever was listening through
> >>> that site would certainly have their network admins perplexed,
> >>> wondering what someone is doing connecting to a strange
> >>> machine in Vietnam.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Other people are runnig public Tor entry points now. I found one
> >> in Canada that is in one of the lists of open proxies. So anyone
> >> who wants to use Tor where the machine is locked down
> >> against new software installation can change the browser's
> >> proxy settings to use this proxy.
> >
> > Not if the admin knows what he is doing. Machines should be locked down so
> > that people cannot change the proxy setting (or any other important and
> > sometimes unimportant setting).
>
> However, Firefox cannot be locked down against proxy setting
> changes. I know of some people who use Firefox from work,
> to circumvent the fact that IE was locked down against proxy
> setting changes.

Guess what, we use a HTTP Proxy rule in our firewalls, it filters out
anything we want and it doesn't matter what browser you use since IT
filters the content and even access.

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In message "Chilly8"
wrote:

>However, Firefox cannot be locked down against proxy setting
>changes.

Wow, this is a new level of stupid. Yes, it can, very *very* easily.

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Sebastian G. wrote:

> Unless he's monitoring the endpoint, you fucking ignorant.

There is no such thing as a "fucking ignorant". Ignorant is an
adjective. You should use 'ignoramous' instead.

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DevilsPGD wrote:

> In message "Chilly8"
> wrote:
>
>> However, Firefox cannot be locked down against proxy setting
>> changes.
>
> Wow, this is a new level of stupid. Yes, it can, very *very* easily.


Wow, that is a new level of incompetence. Any settings inside the global
preferences can be overridden by user.js and prefs.js, not to mention
chrome.rdf and every XUL script you include there.

As for the fools, this is why one should implement a transparent proxy at
the network boundary.

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"Leythos" wrote in message
news:MPG.2274f97a6f5eb2119896e4@adfree.usenet.com...
> In article , chilly8@hotmail.com says...
>> "Leythos" wrote in message
>> news:MPG.2274247e2a65882d9896df@adfree.usenet.com...
>> > In article , chilly8@hotmail.com says...
>> >> "Leythos" wrote in message
>> >> news:MPG.2272722ad702fd8a9896db@adfree.usenet.com...
>> >> > In article , chilly8@hotmail.com says...
>> >> >> Someone has set up an encrypted proxy service in Hanoi, Vietnam
>> >> >> I have seen connections from. So whoever was listening through
>> >> >> that site would certainly have their network admins perplexed,
>> >> >> wondering what someone is doing connecting to a strange
>> >> >> machine in Vietnam.
>> >> >
>> >> > Again, it's simple to see and catch, you keep thinking this is some
>> >> > kind
>> >> > of magic, finding people using an ENCRYPTED proxy is simple, even
>> >> > you
>> >> > could do it - maybe not you.
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> However, with the data encrypted, there is no way an admin
>> >> is going to find out what is going in.
>> >
>> > But you don't understand the point - they have no school requirement
>> > for
>> > External VPN's - so they get busted for an easy to spot infraction.
>>
>>
>> Well, with the EXTREME rules that Bob Jones University has, I
>> canont blame them for looking for every POSSIBLE way to
>> hide their activities.
>
> Except they are not HIDING their activities, they are forming a
> connection to an unauthorized end-point.


Well, with some of the draconian rules that they have at BJU, I
have no problem with allowing BJU students watching online
TV through my server.

BJU is an institution that even "sneers" Catholics (many of the
radical evangelicals don't like Catholics), and I had some
connections from BJU, this past week, connecting to online
coverage of the Pope's visit in New York. I do NOT see
ANYTHING unethical about allowing Bob Jones University
(BJU) students to watch the Pope's masses, via my proxy,
to avoid detection by the University, this past week.

And I am NOT committing any CRIME, under either US
federal law, or South Carolina state law, by allowing BJU
students to access off-limits content, such as coverage of
the Pope's visit, through my proxy.

We ran our own broadcast of the Pope's mass in
Washington, on Thursday, and the listener slots
filled up in a hurry with LOTS of people listening
from work, particularly from Amreican cities with
HEAVY Catholic populations, such as Boston,
NYC, and Miami (where the workday had already
started). People were able to listen to the Pope's
mass, via my radio station, and my proxy, and the
boss will NEVER KNOW someone was tuned in to
Pope's mass for two hours.on Thursday.

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In article , chilly8@hotmail.com says...
> Well, with some of the draconian rules that they have at BJU, I
> have no problem with allowing BJU students watching online
> TV through my server.

Chilly, they are only "Draconian" if you don't believe in them, and they
are put in place and agreed to in signature by the students when they
join the school.

You alway advocate breaking company policy, rules, ethicas, stealing of
company resources that impact normal function, and you claim it can't be
detected or caught - we all know that it's easy to catch a person using
a proxy, using a VPN, and connecting to sites that are not approved....
You are going to get hauled into court one day for your part in getting
a network compromised or a person fired.

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"Leythos" wrote in message
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> In article , chilly8@hotmail.com says...
>> Well, with some of the draconian rules that they have at BJU, I
>> have no problem with allowing BJU students watching online
>> TV through my server.
>
> Chilly, they are only "Draconian" if you don't believe in them, and they
> are put in place and agreed to in signature by the students when they
> join the school.


Well, I think the fact that they "sneer" Catholics is not right, and I
do NOT think that allowing people at BJU to watch the Papal
masses from Washington and New York, this past week, was
unethical. There was NOTHING unethical abuot letting people
people watch this Pope's masses in Washington, and New
York this week. I believe that ANY school or corporation
blocking the Papal masses were INFRINGING upon users
REIGIOUS FREEDOMS, and I allowed people to use my
server to watch and/or listen to the Pope's Washington and
New York masses to RIGHT that wrong. And with their
encrypted VPN tunnel to my machine, there is no POSSIBLE
way they are going to find out someone watched the Pope's
masses despite the policies of the evangelists who run BJU.

And since NONE of my servers are in America, they are NOT
SUBJECT to ANY American laws, and what I do is LEGAL
in the countries where my servers are.

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In article , chilly8@hotmail.com says...
> "Leythos" wrote in message
> news:MPG.22764718e5ce5bd69896ed@adfree.usenet.com...
> > In article , chilly8@hotmail.com says...
> >> Well, with some of the draconian rules that they have at BJU, I
> >> have no problem with allowing BJU students watching online
> >> TV through my server.
> >
> > Chilly, they are only "Draconian" if you don't believe in them, and they
> > are put in place and agreed to in signature by the students when they
> > join the school.
>
>
> Well, I think

That's the point, it doesn't matter WHAT YOU THINK.

They MUST abide by the rules of the network owner, end of discussion,
period, nothing more, that's ALL THAT MATTERS.


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"Leythos" wrote in message
news:MPG.2276928f8cdf41c29896ef@adfree.usenet.com...
> In article , chilly8@hotmail.com says...
>> "Leythos" wrote in message
>> news:MPG.22764718e5ce5bd69896ed@adfree.usenet.com...
>> > In article , chilly8@hotmail.com says...
>> >> Well, with some of the draconian rules that they have at BJU, I
>> >> have no problem with allowing BJU students watching online
>> >> TV through my server.
>> >
>> > Chilly, they are only "Draconian" if you don't believe in them, and
>> > they
>> > are put in place and agreed to in signature by the students when they
>> > join the school.
>>
>>
>> Well, I think
>
> That's the point, it doesn't matter WHAT YOU THINK.
>
> They MUST abide by the rules of the network owner, end of discussion,
> period, nothing more, that's ALL THAT MATTERS.


I am gearing up to broadcast both political conventions from America,
in August, and I expect all the listener slots to fill up, especially for
the Democratic convention, because the nomination probably will
not be decided until then.

Given the huge listener response I had during one of the presidential
debates, I expect the listenership to go way up during the political
conventions. During one Presidential debates, there were connections
from office networks in Hawaii, as well as in many Asian countries.

Remember, too, that I have my RDNS trick, which causes the
current IP assigned to me, for my station, to resolve to something
under MY domain, instead of either live365.com or loudcity.net,
which means that if a user plugs in the IP number, they will get
my station, no matter what the software from major filtering
vendors (Websense, SurfControl, Bess, Sentian, etc.) is
set to filter. I have, in effect, as I have said, found a way to
undermine the filters, which I don't think the filtering vendors
are going to catch up with any time soon. And since I
am PAYING GoDaddy for the rights to that domain
name, and I OWN the server where the DNS server doing
this is housed, undermining the filters, the way I do it, is
LEGAL.

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In article , chilly8@hotmail.com says...
> Remember, too, that I have my RDNS trick, which causes

causes you to appear like a person that knows what they are doing is
wrong, makes you look like a dishonest person.

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"Leythos" wrote in message
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> In article , chilly8@hotmail.com says...
>> Remember, too, that I have my RDNS trick, which causes
>
> causes you to appear like a person that knows what they are doing is
> wrong, makes you look like a dishonest person.


It is NOT illegal to change the DNS server settings on the server
that I *OWN*. I OWN that server, and I am PAYING GoDaddy
for the rights to that domain name. Since I OWN the server and an
PAYING for the domain name, that gives me the right to have the
RDNS settings ANY way I CHOOSE to have them. If I want to
muck with the RDNS settings on my machine, so that filters will
fail to block part of my site, that is LEGAL, since I OWN the
servers where the RNDS is being hosted, and I am PAYING
GoDaddy for the rights to that domain.

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In article , chilly8@hotmail.com says...
> It is NOT illegal to change the DNS server settings on the server
> that I *OWN*.

You are an unethical hack that gives bad information to people that
could get them fired and could get their business network compromised.

You are dishonorable, unethical, and trash in the world of security and
networking.

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Chilly8 wrote:

> X-No-Archive: Yes
>
>
> "Leythos" wrote in message
> news:MPG.22778e8ef6dcf8f69896fd@adfree.usenet.com...
>> In article , chilly8@hotmail.com says...
>>> Remember, too, that I have my RDNS trick, which causes
>> causes you to appear like a person that knows what they are doing is
>> wrong, makes you look like a dishonest person.
>
>
> It is NOT illegal to change the DNS server settings on the server
> that I *OWN*. I OWN that server, and I am PAYING GoDaddy
> for the rights to that domain name. Since I OWN the server and an
> PAYING for the domain name, that gives me the right to have the
> RDNS settings ANY way I CHOOSE to have them.


Basically not. You're intentionally introducing inconsistency into the DNS
system, even claiming authority over totally different domains.

Actually it's GoDaddy's fault for not simply shutting you off.

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On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 06:57:08 -0400, Leythos wrote:

> In article , chilly8@hotmail.com says...
>> Remember, too, that I have my RDNS trick, which causes
>
> causes you to appear like a person that knows what they are doing is
> wrong, makes you look like a dishonest person.
>
>
I suspect that you are wasting your time with him, Leythos. Isn't this the
same guy making the same claims about the figure skating a while back? And
something else even before that one? Apparently no one in the past couple
of years has been able to get the point through to him.

JD