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#1: Hidden code in emails

Posted on 2008-04-17 11:43:43 by daniel

Hi,

at the moment I'm working on my diploma thesis, my topic is HTML-Code
in emails. I should try to hide javascript-, vba- or html-code in an
email so that the addressee is not able to see it - the addressee only
sees the text.

My teacher would like to see what is possible over hidden html-/
javascript- or vba-code and whether it's possible to execute files or
whether it's possible to do any damage like viruses/Trojans with this
hidden code.

Does anybody have tips or helpful links/documents about this topic?

thanks in advance
Daniel

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#2: Re: Hidden code in emails

Posted on 2008-04-17 15:40:45 by lws4art

Daniel wrote:
> Hi,
>
> at the moment I'm working on my diploma thesis, my topic is HTML-Code
> in emails. I should try to hide javascript-, vba- or html-code in an
> email so that the addressee is not able to see it - the addressee only
> sees the text.
>
> My teacher would like to see what is possible over hidden html-/
> javascript- or vba-code and whether it's possible to execute files or
> whether it's possible to do any damage like viruses/Trojans with this
> hidden code.
>
> Does anybody have tips or helpful links/documents about this topic?

Script-kiddie wantatabe looking for tips? I don't think anybody here
will assist you, we all have enough problems with spam.

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Take care,

Jonathan
-------------------
LITTLE WORKS STUDIO
http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com

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#3: Re: Hidden code in emails

Posted on 2008-04-17 16:17:37 by Bergamot

Jonathan N. Little wrote:
> Daniel wrote:
>>
>> My teacher would like to see what is possible over hidden html-/
>> javascript- or vba-code and whether it's possible to execute files or
>> whether it's possible to do any damage like viruses/Trojans with this
>> hidden code.
>
> Script-kiddie wantatabe looking for tips? I don't think anybody here
> will assist you, we all have enough problems with spam.

Besides, any sane person would have scripting disabled in their mail
program. Even MS has it disabled by default now.

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Berg

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#4: Re: Hidden code in emails

Posted on 2008-04-17 16:18:40 by Raymond.Schmit

On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 02:43:43 -0700 (PDT), Daniel <SeniiX@gmail.com>
wrote:

>Hi,
>
>at the moment I'm working on my diploma thesis, my topic is HTML-Code
>in emails. I should try to hide javascript-, vba- or html-code in an
>email so that the addressee is not able to see it - the addressee only
>sees the text.
>
>My teacher would like to see what is possible over hidden html-/
>javascript- or vba-code and whether it's possible to execute files or
>whether it's possible to do any damage like viruses/Trojans with this
>hidden code.
>
>Does anybody have tips or helpful links/documents about this topic?
>
>thanks in advance
>Daniel

We will consider your request as an hidden one ..... nobody can see it
.....If this is true, your teacher is a stupide teacher ...or he try to
be a spammer asking students to do the work for him :-(

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#5: Re: Hidden code in emails

Posted on 2008-04-17 16:26:48 by lws4art

Bergamot wrote:
> Jonathan N. Little wrote:
>> Daniel wrote:
>>> My teacher would like to see what is possible over hidden html-/
>>> javascript- or vba-code and whether it's possible to execute files or
>>> whether it's possible to do any damage like viruses/Trojans with this
>>> hidden code.
>> Script-kiddie wantatabe looking for tips? I don't think anybody here
>> will assist you, we all have enough problems with spam.
>
> Besides, any sane person would have scripting disabled in their mail
> program. Even MS has it disabled by default now.
>

Finally, but to slam MS some more, new "secure" IE's still offers "run"
and with their download box for excutables!!!!

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Take care,

Jonathan
-------------------
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http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com

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#6: Re: Hidden code in emails

Posted on 2008-04-17 17:01:47 by daniel

On 17 Apr., 16:26, "Jonathan N. Little" <lws4...@central.net> wrote:
> Bergamot wrote:
> > Jonathan N. Little wrote:
> >> Daniel wrote:
> >>> My teacher would like to see what is possible over hidden html-/
> >>> javascript- or vba-code and whether it's possible to execute files or
> >>> whether it's possible to do any damage like viruses/Trojans with this
> >>> hidden code.
> >> Script-kiddie wantatabe looking for tips? I don't think anybody here
> >> will assist you, we all have enough problems with spam.
>
> > Besides, any sane person would have scripting disabled in their mail
> > program. Even MS has it disabled by default now.
>
> Finally, but to slam MS some more, new "secure" IE's still offers "run"
> and with their download box for excutables!!!!
>
> --
> Take care,
>
> Jonathan
> -------------------
> LITTLE WORKS STUDIOhttp://www.LittleWorksStudio.com

I'm not trying to spam anybody. I only do what my teacher demands from
me and I hoped that maybe I can get some help in this group :/

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#7: Re: Hidden code in emails

Posted on 2008-04-17 17:07:55 by lws4art

Daniel wrote:
> On 17 Apr., 16:26, "Jonathan N. Little" <lws4...@central.net> wrote:
>> Bergamot wrote:
>>> Jonathan N. Little wrote:
>>>> Daniel wrote:
>>>>> My teacher would like to see what is possible over hidden html-/
>>>>> javascript- or vba-code and whether it's possible to execute files or
>>>>> whether it's possible to do any damage like viruses/Trojans with this
>>>>> hidden code.
>>>> Script-kiddie wantatabe looking for tips? I don't think anybody here
>>>> will assist you, we all have enough problems with spam.
>>> Besides, any sane person would have scripting disabled in their mail
>>> program. Even MS has it disabled by default now.
>> Finally, but to slam MS some more, new "secure" IE's still offers "run"
>> and with their download box for excutables!!!!

>
> I'm not trying to spam anybody. I only do what my teacher demands from
> me and I hoped that maybe I can get some help in this group :/

You won't find folks where to give you instruction on how to build a
"dirty-bomb" either.

If this is for a college thesis, you should have enough technical
expertise to know what is involved and ramifications of such code. You
would not need to has for help here. Frankly I do not believe you. Post
the email of this "professor", some on here will set him straight....

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Take care,

Jonathan
-------------------
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http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com

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#8: Re: Hidden code in emails

Posted on 2008-04-17 18:13:53 by saz

In article <07a6d180-0fb8-464d-9a68-e4f68a2a7d53
@b64g2000hsa.googlegroups.com>, SeniiX@gmail.com says...
> Hi,
>
> at the moment I'm working on my diploma thesis, my topic is HTML-Code
> in emails. I should try to hide javascript-, vba- or html-code in an
> email so that the addressee is not able to see it - the addressee only
> sees the text.
>
> My teacher would like to see what is possible over hidden html-/
> javascript- or vba-code and whether it's possible to execute files or
> whether it's possible to do any damage like viruses/Trojans with this
> hidden code.
>
> Does anybody have tips or helpful links/documents about this topic?
>
> thanks in advance
> Daniel
>
>
You have an idiot for a teacher. He/she should NEVER assign this, nor
allow a thesis on this topic.

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#9: Re: Hidden code in emails

Posted on 2008-04-17 19:27:52 by Harlan Messinger

Daniel wrote:
> Hi,
>
> at the moment I'm working on my diploma thesis, my topic is HTML-Code
> in emails. I should try to hide javascript-, vba- or html-code in an
> email so that the addressee is not able to see it - the addressee only
> sees the text.
>
> My teacher would like to see what is possible over hidden html-/
> javascript- or vba-code and whether it's possible to execute files or
> whether it's possible to do any damage like viruses/Trojans with this
> hidden code.
>
> Does anybody have tips or helpful links/documents about this topic?

Besides what everyone else has said, I don't even understand your
situation. It's like writing a diploma thesis on how to embed a
cross-browser Flash presentation in a web page or on how to get the best
results from roasting a pork shoulder. I mean, the explanations are out
there, they take a few paragraphs or a couple of pages to explain, and
then they're done. Copy and paste. It's hardly a thesis topic.

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#10: Re: Hidden code in emails

Posted on 2008-04-17 22:18:31 by Sherm Pendley

Harlan Messinger <hmessinger.removethis@comcast.net> writes:

> Besides what everyone else has said, I don't even understand your
> situation. It's like writing a diploma thesis on how to embed a
> cross-browser Flash presentation in a web page or on how to get the
> best results from roasting a pork shoulder. I mean, the explanations
> are out there, they take a few paragraphs or a couple of pages to
> explain, and then they're done. Copy and paste. It's hardly a thesis
> topic.

Note that he said "diploma thesis" - not "PhD thesis." Assuming that he's
really taking a class at all, I suspect this to be a final project at a
diploma mill.

sherm--

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#11: Re: Hidden code in emails

Posted on 2008-04-18 02:54:11 by Harlan Messinger

Sherman Pendley wrote:
> Harlan Messinger <hmessinger.removethis@comcast.net> writes:
>
>> Besides what everyone else has said, I don't even understand your
>> situation. It's like writing a diploma thesis on how to embed a
>> cross-browser Flash presentation in a web page or on how to get the
>> best results from roasting a pork shoulder. I mean, the explanations
>> are out there, they take a few paragraphs or a couple of pages to
>> explain, and then they're done. Copy and paste. It's hardly a thesis
>> topic.
>
> Note that he said "diploma thesis" - not "PhD thesis."

I understand, but still, in my vocabulary (and I realize this is one of
those things that probably varies by country), "thesis" nevertheless
implies an honors paper of non-trivial length and significant research
in consultation with an advisor, not something you can complete by
finding a couple of blog entries on line and copying them down.

> Assuming that he's
> really taking a class at all, I suspect this to be a final project at a
> diploma mill.

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#12: Re: Hidden code in emails

Posted on 2008-04-19 12:53:49 by daniel

On 18 Apr., 02:54, Harlan Messinger
<hmessinger.removet...@comcast.net> wrote:
> Sherman Pendley wrote:
> > Harlan Messinger <hmessinger.removet...@comcast.net> writes:
>
> >> Besides what everyone else has said, I don't even understand your
> >> situation. It's like writing a diploma thesis on how to embed a
> >> cross-browser Flash presentation in a web page or on how to get the
> >> best results from roasting a pork shoulder. I mean, the explanations
> >> are out there, they take a few paragraphs or a couple of pages to
> >> explain, and then they're done. Copy and paste. It's hardly a thesis
> >> topic.
>
> > Note that he said "diploma thesis" - not "PhD thesis."
>
> I understand, but still, in my vocabulary (and I realize this is one of
> those things that probably varies by country), "thesis" nevertheless
> implies an honors paper of non-trivial length and significant research
> in consultation with an advisor, not something you can complete by
> finding a couple of blog entries on line and copying them down.
>
> > Assuming that he's
> > really taking a class at all, I suspect this to be a final project at a
> > diploma mill.


Sure, it's a written "work" (should be about 30-40-sided). And my
teacher wants that I explain with some examples, what I can do with
html, javascript and other codes in emails.

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#13: Re: Hidden code in emails

Posted on 2008-04-20 16:44:55 by saz

In article <bd58990c-416e-43c3-97a7-cba061c5eb4e@
8g2000hse.googlegroups.com>, SeniiX@gmail.com says...
> On 18 Apr., 02:54, Harlan Messinger
> <hmessinger.removet...@comcast.net> wrote:
> > Sherman Pendley wrote:
> > > Harlan Messinger <hmessinger.removet...@comcast.net> writes:
> >
> > >> Besides what everyone else has said, I don't even understand your
> > >> situation. It's like writing a diploma thesis on how to embed a
> > >> cross-browser Flash presentation in a web page or on how to get the
> > >> best results from roasting a pork shoulder. I mean, the explanations
> > >> are out there, they take a few paragraphs or a couple of pages to
> > >> explain, and then they're done. Copy and paste. It's hardly a thesis
> > >> topic.
> >
> > > Note that he said "diploma thesis" - not "PhD thesis."
> >
> > I understand, but still, in my vocabulary (and I realize this is one of
> > those things that probably varies by country), "thesis" nevertheless
> > implies an honors paper of non-trivial length and significant research
> > in consultation with an advisor, not something you can complete by
> > finding a couple of blog entries on line and copying them down.
> >
> > > Assuming that he's
> > > really taking a class at all, I suspect this to be a final project at a
> > > diploma mill.
>
>
> Sure, it's a written "work" (should be about 30-40-sided). And my
> teacher wants that I explain with some examples, what I can do with
> html, javascript and other codes in emails.

My initial thoughts about you, aside from I don't buy any of these lies,
is you are lazy. If you took Web courses, HTML emails should have been
covered.

I still think your "teacher" (I'm interested - what reputable school is
this?) is an idiot for asking/allowing this.

And now that you've re-worded your "thesis" requirement (very suspicious
behavior) try Googling for a plagiarized answer, or better yet, do the
work yourself and see what can be accomplished instead of relying on
others to do it for you.

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#14: Re: Hidden code in emails

Posted on 2008-04-22 01:15:56 by Raymond.Schmit

On Sat, 19 Apr 2008 03:53:49 -0700 (PDT), Daniel <SeniiX@gmail.com>
wrote:

>On 18 Apr., 02:54, Harlan Messinger
><hmessinger.removet...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> Sherman Pendley wrote:
>> > Harlan Messinger <hmessinger.removet...@comcast.net> writes:
>>
>> >> Besides what everyone else has said, I don't even understand your
>> >> situation. It's like writing a diploma thesis on how to embed a
>> >> cross-browser Flash presentation in a web page or on how to get the
>> >> best results from roasting a pork shoulder. I mean, the explanations
>> >> are out there, they take a few paragraphs or a couple of pages to
>> >> explain, and then they're done. Copy and paste. It's hardly a thesis
>> >> topic.
>>
>> > Note that he said "diploma thesis" - not "PhD thesis."
>>
>> I understand, but still, in my vocabulary (and I realize this is one of
>> those things that probably varies by country), "thesis" nevertheless
>> implies an honors paper of non-trivial length and significant research
>> in consultation with an advisor, not something you can complete by
>> finding a couple of blog entries on line and copying them down.
>>
>> > Assuming that he's
>> > really taking a class at all, I suspect this to be a final project at a
>> > diploma mill.
>
>
>Sure, it's a written "work" (should be about 30-40-sided). And my
>teacher wants that I explain with some examples, what I can do with
>html, javascript and other codes in emails.

Anyone with any sense has Javascript disabled in their email program.

If not -> PLEASE DO IT IMMEDIATELY !!!

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