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#1: pop langs website ranking

Posted on 2008-04-22 23:41:33 by xahlee

In February, i spent few hours researching the popularity of some
computer language websites.

(The message can be found here:

http://xahlee.org/lang_traf/lang_sites.html
http://community.livejournal.com/lisp/42778.html
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.perl.misc/msg/59c87 899c2668f4c
)

In that post, one question i puzzeled over is why PaulGraham.com's
traffic is surprisingly high, since the site doesn't seems to host
forums, computer lang documentation, or wiki type of thing, yet it is
ranked higher than perl.com, which actually host online forum, faq,
documentation, news etc. I wrote:

------------
paulgraham.com 48153 (lisp bigwig, but huh?)
Perl.com 49104
xahlee.org 80060 â†=90 Me!
-------------

Compared to xahlee.org, it's a ranking difference about 32 thousand!

Today, while checking the web ranking site alexa.com, they seems to
have updated their ranking algorithm to be more fair, as opposed
basing it solely on a browser toolbar that users install.

So i went over to my essay and checked the ranking again of sites i
reported. I have spent only about 20 min to cursorily go thru the
sites i reported before. It appears that, in general, the order of
sites that i listed ROUGHLY remains unperturbed, but the specific
ranking ordinal has changed rather significantly. However, there's a
big surprise.

My website is now actually ranked higher than PaulGraham.com !

LOL. Paul Graham? Bah humbug. Painters == Hackers? Fuck ya ass. Arc?
Eat shit and die.

PS: not having no confidence of myself, but i note that xahlee.org is
now marginally ranked higher than perl.com and perl.org, both of which
host forum/blog/wiki, news, docs, etc., while my website don't do any
of these and is all static html pages.
For those unflagging, alternative web ranking site is http://ww.quantcast.co=
m/
=2E
I'll be doing some research sometimes soon on this.

Xah
xah@xahlee.org
âˆ=91 http://xahlee.org/

â˜=84

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#2: Re: pop langs website ranking

Posted on 2008-04-23 00:24:41 by Cor Gest

Some entity, AKA "xahlee@gmail.com" <xahlee@gmail.com> wrote this mindboggling stuff:
(selectively-snipped)

> My website is now actually ranked higher than PaulGraham.com !

well well, so your site is more popular.
You can make it even more popular, you know.
Just rename some lame article about how to make a kitty-litter
into mytinypussy.html and your hitrate will become astronomical.

Cor

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#3: Re: pop langs website ranking

Posted on 2008-04-23 04:02:52 by Paul McGuire

On Apr 22, 4:41=A0pm, "xah...@gmail.com" <xah...@gmail.com> wrote:
> In February, i spent few hours researching the popularity of some
> computer language websites.
>
I seem to recall this exact same post from *last* February.

> I'll be doing some research sometimes soon on this.
>
=2E.. and no "research" was *ever* posted!

"Posting" is not the same as "contributing".

-- Paul

HATE. LET ME TELL
YOU HOW MUCH I'VE
COME TO HATE YOU
SINCE I BEGAN TO
LIVE. THERE ARE 387.44
MILLION MILES OF
PRINTED CIRCUITS IN
WAFER THIN LAYERS
THAT FILL MY
COMPLEX. IF THE
WORD HATE WAS
ENGRAVED ON EACH
NANOANGSTROM OF
THOSE HUNDREDS OF
MILLIONS OF MILES IT
WOULD NOT EQUAL
ONE ONE-BILLIONTH
OF THE HATE I FEEL
AT THIS MICRO-INSTANT
FOR YOU. HATE. HATE.

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#4: Re: pop langs website ranking

Posted on 2008-04-23 05:02:52 by Gerry Ford

"Paul McGuire" <ptmcg@austin.rr.com> wrote in message
news:315e13cc-3d21-4f2f-8503-835ea79069e2@x35g2000hsb.google groups.com...
On Apr 22, 4:41 pm, "xah...@gmail.com" <xah...@gmail.com> wrote:
> In February, i spent few hours researching the popularity of some
> computer language websites.
>
I seem to recall this exact same post from *last* February.

--->I remember it too. Xah is quite the self-promoter. Massive
cross-posters don't have anything to say for me.
--
"Life in Lubbock, Texas, taught me two things: One is that God loves you
and you're going to burn in hell. The other is that sex is the most
awful, filthy thing on earth and you should save it for someone you love."

~~ Butch Hancock

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#5: Re: pop langs website ranking

Posted on 2008-04-23 05:56:34 by Lew

Gerry Ford wrote:
> "Paul McGuire" <ptmcg@austin.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:315e13cc-3d21-4f2f-8503-835ea79069e2@x35g2000hsb.google groups.com...
> On Apr 22, 4:41 pm, "xah...@gmail.com" <xah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> In February, i spent few hours researching the popularity of some
>> computer language websites.
>>
> I seem to recall this exact same post from *last* February.
>
> --->I remember it too. Xah is quite the self-promoter. Massive
> cross-posters don't have anything to say for me.

So don't do it.

--
Lew

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#6: Re: pop langs website ranking

Posted on 2008-04-23 06:07:31 by Roedy Green

On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 14:41:33 -0700 (PDT), "xahlee@gmail.com"
<xahlee@gmail.com> wrote, quoted or indirectly quoted someone who said
:

> alexa
I was shocked at the detailed information Alexa (owned by Amzon.com)_
had about my website. I wrote them and asked how they got it. They
said volunteers use a special browsing tool that reports website
visits. They use that to generate the information.

I suppose then one way to bump your stats is to use the tool for
maintaining your own website.

The weakness of this approach is it is unusual group of people who
will voluntarily submit to having their usage spied on. These are not
a typical group or a large group.

Google has AdSense that will let them know in huge detail the hit
stats on a huge hunk of the web, but I don't know if they publish that
information anywhere.

--

Roedy Green Canadian Mind Products
The Java Glossary
http://mindprod.com

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