framework for modperl applications

I found that Catalyst is too huge to use.
Other than Catalyst, do you have any other framework suggested for MP
applications?
thanks.

--penny

Re: framework for modperl applications

Am Donnerstag, 17. Juli 2008 17:52:58 schrieb pennyyh@aol.co.uk:
> I found that Catalyst is too huge to use.
> Other than Catalyst, do you have any other framework suggested for MP
> applications?
> thanks.
>
> --penny

I'm using HTML::Mason and MasonX::WebApp along with DBIx::Class as the main
parts of my framwork.
MasonX::WebApp allows (but does not force) me, to put my logic in .pm files
and keep my mason components free from business logic , yet not entirely free
from perl code, This is why I like it, I can still do small and simple things
in my components and put my important stuff in .pm files.
Noting to mention about DBIx::Class, either you like OR-Wrappers or not, but I
would recommend it strongly.
Session mgmt comes with MasonX::WebApp
Internationalisation is done with Locale::Maketext,
Logging with Log4perl, that's it. Switched from apache1 to apache2 recently
with not too much trouble and I'm quite happy with this!

For performance issues I'm running a lightweight frontend apche and a
mod_perl-apache as reverse proxy for the backend (as described in mod_perl
book).


Rolf Schaufelberger
www.mypxler.com

Re: framework for modperl applications

pennyyh@aol.co.uk wrote:
> I found that Catalyst is too huge to use.
> Other than Catalyst, do you have any other framework suggested for MP
> applications?
> thanks.
>
> --penny

Apache::Dispatch (http://search.cpan.org/dist/Apache-Dispatch) is on
lightweight end of the spectrum, one step removed from writing your
application using PerlResponseHandlers. I'm not sure it qualifies as a
framework though, maybe just a request framework. It has been measured
as almost as fast as straight response handlers (assuming that hasn't
changed from 0.09 to 0.10).

Re: framework for modperl applications

On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 10:30 AM, Fred Moyer wrote:
> pennyyh@aol.co.uk wrote:
>>
>> I found that Catalyst is too huge to use.
>> Other than Catalyst, do you have any other framework suggested for MP
>> applications?
>> thanks.

My understanding is that Catalyst is as light as you want it to be.
What is 'heavy' about it? What are you looking for in a framework?

>>
>> --penny
>
> Apache::Dispatch (http://search.cpan.org/dist/Apache-Dispatch) is on
> lightweight end of the spectrum, one step removed from writing your
> application using PerlResponseHandlers. I'm not sure it qualifies as a
> framework though, maybe just a request framework. It has been measured as
> almost as fast as straight response handlers (assuming that hasn't changed
> from 0.09 to 0.10).
>



--
~Tyler

Re: framework for modperl applications

Most will argue that it's not considered a framework per se, but I like
HTML::Template. It's more of a templating engine really.

pennyyh@aol.co.uk wrote:
> I found that Catalyst is too huge to use.
> Other than Catalyst, do you have any other framework suggested for MP
> applications?
> thanks.
>
> --penny

Re: framework for modperl applications

pennyyh@aol.co.uk wrote:
> I found that Catalyst is too huge to use.

Catalyst is big because of all the things it can do. If you want all of
that stuff for free you need a big framework.

> Other than Catalyst, do you have any other framework suggested for MP
> applications?

I prefer CGI::Application. Just ignore the name, it works just peachy
under mod_perl. It's a very simple framework by itself and has lots of
plugins to give you things like sessions, configuration, form
validation, etc.

--
Michael Peters
Plus Three, LP

Re: framework for modperl applications

I like Mason a lot (HTML::Mason). We use Mason mostly for it's component execution chain, attributes, subexec, and a few other features. Also, we don't use Mason's template features at all, we choose to use HTML::Template for that.

My $0.02,
- Jeff

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From: "pennyyh@aol.co.uk"
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Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 8:52:58 AM
Subject: framework for modperl applications

I found that Catalyst is too huge to use.
Other than Catalyst, do you have any other framework suggested for MP
applications?
thanks.

--penny

Re: framework for modperl applications

On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 11:52 AM, wrote:
> Other than Catalyst, do you have any other framework suggested for MP
> applications?

http://perl.apache.org/products/app-server.html

- Perrin

Re: framework for modperl applications

On Thu, 17 Jul 2008, pennyyh@aol.co.uk wrote:
> I found that Catalyst is too huge to use. Other than
> Catalyst, do you have any other framework suggested for MP
> applications? thanks.

You could help me debug Apache2::Controller. It is still
unstable and incomplete, though. YAAF. --mark--

Re: framework for modperl applications

2008/7/17 Perrin Harkins :
> On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 11:52 AM, wrote:
>> Other than Catalyst, do you have any other framework suggested for MP
>> applications?
>
> http://perl.apache.org/products/app-server.html

I would also suggest :

http://www.perlfoundation.org/perl5/index.cgi?web_frameworks

A.

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