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=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 I have Arachnophilia(IDE) and i can write ph=
p script using it.Is it necessary to install ZendStudio-7.0.0-BETA(IDE) to =
write php script?
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2009/7/2 Ravi Joshi
> Hi,
> Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â I have Arachnophil=
ia(IDE) and i can write php script using it.Is it necessary to install Zend=
Studio-7.0.0-BETA(IDE) to write php script?
>
> -Ravi Joshi
>
>
>
>
Depending upon your requirements.
I use an old fashioned text editor with colour syntax highlighting for
PHP (EditPadPro - http://www.editpadpro.com)
If you are looking for an integrated debugging environment, then maybe
Zend is your bag.
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Hi Ravi,
> I have Arachnophilia(IDE) and i can write php script using it.Is it
necessary to install ZendStudio-7.0.0-BETA(IDE) to write php script?
My two cents to your question:
It just depends on your programming experience with PHP, the complexity
of the project(s) you work on, the necessity of debugging possibilities,
the abstraction grade of your project (i.e. if you are using OOP with
the use of classes, interfaces, abstraction, inheritance) and some more
factors.
This would be my suggested approach:
* if you are used to use PHP and are skilled, things like notepad,
notepad++, PSPad and the like are enough for smaller projects. They are
quickly installed, don't need project setups, but miss most of the real
IDE's functions.
* if you are skilled and use PHP on a higher level with bigger projects,
I would suggest using Zend Studio (or the also eclipse-based PDT, which
is not commercial). Both provide good tools to organize and document
code, have auto-completion for classes, functions, variables; they
support remote debugging on debuggable servers with xdebug or Zend
debugger on the server side; and a lot more
* if you are not used to PHP and you mainly have to take care of design,
some commercial WYSIWYG tools like Dreamweaver would be better, because
they include complete script packages (i.e. user authentication,
recordset pagination and so on) - this approach would be more
frontend-oriented, because they are based on visual components.
Give us some more info on your background and experience for a better
suggestion.
Regards,
Sascha
Richard Quadling schrieb:
> 2009/7/2 Ravi Joshi
>> Hi,
>> I have Arachnophilia(IDE) and i can write php script using it.Is it necessary to install ZendStudio-7.0.0-BETA(IDE) to write php script?
>>
>> -Ravi Joshi
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> Depending upon your requirements.
>
> I use an old fashioned text editor with colour syntax highlighting for
> PHP (EditPadPro - http://www.editpadpro.com)
>
> If you are looking for an integrated debugging environment, then maybe
> Zend is your bag.
>
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-----Original Message-----
From: Ravi Joshi [mailto:ravi.joshi53@yahoo.com]=20
Sent: 02 July 2009 05:39 PM
To: php mailling list
Subject: [PHP-WIN] is ZendStudio IDE necessary????
Hi,
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 I have Arachnophilia(IDE) and i can write =
php script using
it.Is it necessary to install ZendStudio-7.0.0-BETA(IDE) to write php
script?
-Ravi Joshi=20
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You answered your own question. "I have Arachnophilia(IDE) and i can =
write
php script using it." In case you missed it - no, it's not necessary to
install ZendStudio-7.0.0-BETA(IDE) to write php script, you can use
Arachnophilia(IDE).
Cheers
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2009/7/6 gunawan
> i'm not suggested using Arach for php editor.. since i think another edit=
or
> are better.
> fyi.. i'm using Arach to html editor
>
>
> but in med level.. using not only one editor is something u must face
>
> for me.. i'm using a bunch of editor..
> that's include image editor and text editor.. this is my full list
> * Crimson editor =3D> php editor
> * MS Word =3D> template builder??
> * Irfanview
> * Flash.. image building
> * Photoshop =3D> for polish my image.. but irfanview seem better.. since =
My
> work not soo need powerfull
> * Filezilla =3D> upload my work
>
> well.. I just want to share.. to inform.. if you want to enter Med to exp=
ert
> programer.. u must have a lot tools/editor
> and next step is something you must find to enter EXPERT
> *that's not scary right?
Word? You're freaking kidding right?
In general I would argue that the tools you use have absolutely no
bearing on what level developer you are, but to be using Word for
anything other than word processing takes a special kind of ignorance
and/or stupidity. It has no place as a development tool unless you're
developing Word macros.
-Stuart
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Ravi Joshi [mailto:ravi.joshi53@yahoo.com] Sent: 02 July 2009 05:3=
9
>> PM
>> To: php mailling list
>> Subject: [PHP-WIN] is ZendStudio IDE necessary????
>>
>> Hi,
>> Â Â Â Â Â Â Â I have Arachnophilia(ID=
E) and i can write php script using
>> it.Is it necessary to install ZendStudio-7.0.0-BETA(IDE) to write php
>> script?
>>
>> -Ravi Joshi
>> ----
>>
>> You answered your own question. "I have Arachnophilia(IDE) and i can wri=
te
>> php script using it." In case you missed it - no, it's not necessary to
>> install ZendStudio-7.0.0-BETA(IDE) to write php script, you can use
>> Arachnophilia(IDE).
>>
>> Cheers
>> Arno
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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I use phpDesigner for all my coding:
* Javascript
* x|d|HTML
* Perl
* PHP
* SQL
I use Photoshop/Illustrator for images
I use Filezilla to upload images
I have a SVN/WinSCP to manage the code and EXPORT and upload updates
to production automatically
I use phpDoc to build the API docs and WinSCP to put it on my server,
automatically every evening. (api.bluewatermvc.org is my working files)
But that's just me.
Walter
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is that better than Dreamweaver?
Maribeth
http://www.wayexcellent.com
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From: Walter Torres [mailto:phpwalter@torres.ws]
Sent: Sunday, July 05, 2009 2:45 PM
To: php-windows@lists.php.net
Subject: Re: [PHP-WIN] is ZendStudio IDE necessary????
I use phpDesigner for all my coding:
* Javascript
* x|d|HTML
* Perl
* PHP
* SQL
I use Photoshop/Illustrator for images
I use Filezilla to upload images
I have a SVN/WinSCP to manage the code and EXPORT and upload updates
to production automatically
I use phpDoc to build the API docs and WinSCP to put it on my server,
automatically every evening. (api.bluewatermvc.org is my working files)
But that's just me.
Walter
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Quoting Maribeth
> is that (phpDesigner) better than Dreamweaver?
Oh, that's a religious question! ;)
In my view, yes, by light-years. But then, I thought Homesite (DWs
grandfather was a lot better as well).
The only thing I don't like about phpDesigner is that a team can't
share the same snippets and template files.
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i'm not suggested using Arach for php editor.. since i think another
editor are better.
fyi.. i'm using Arach to html editor
but in med level.. using not only one editor is something u must face
for me.. i'm using a bunch of editor..
that's include image editor and text editor.. this is my full list
* Crimson editor => php editor
* MS Word => template builder??
* Irfanview
* Flash.. image building
* Photoshop => for polish my image.. but irfanview seem better.. since
My work not soo need powerfull
* Filezilla => upload my work
well.. I just want to share.. to inform.. if you want to enter Med to
expert programer.. u must have a lot tools/editor
and next step is something you must find to enter EXPERT
*that's not scary right?
Arno Kuhl wrote:
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ravi Joshi [mailto:ravi.joshi53@yahoo.com]
> Sent: 02 July 2009 05:39 PM
> To: php mailling list
> Subject: [PHP-WIN] is ZendStudio IDE necessary????
>
> Hi,
> I have Arachnophilia(IDE) and i can write php script using
> it.Is it necessary to install ZendStudio-7.0.0-BETA(IDE) to write php
> script?
>
> -Ravi Joshi
>
> ----
>
> You answered your own question. "I have Arachnophilia(IDE) and i can write
> php script using it." In case you missed it - no, it's not necessary to
> install ZendStudio-7.0.0-BETA(IDE) to write php script, you can use
> Arachnophilia(IDE).
>
> Cheers
> Arno
>
>
>
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We use Netbeans and Zend Studio both. NB is the best PHP/HTML/JS =20
editor out there, IMO. However, ZS's syntax checker is more accurate =20
for our environment.
Sent from my magic iPhone,
Keith Davis 214-906-5183
On Jul 5, 2009, at 4:03 PM, "Walter Torres"
> Quoting Maribeth
>
>> is that (phpDesigner) better than Dreamweaver?
>
> Oh, that's a religious question! ;)
>
> In my view, yes, by light-years. But then, I thought Homesite (DWs =20
> grandfather was a lot better as well).
>
> The only thing I don't like about phpDesigner is that a team can't =20
> share the same snippets and template files.
>
> Walter
>
>
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Stuart you are awesome!
best greats
Alex. Hannel
> hahahaha..
> scary isn't.. using word as one of tools
>
> yes.. u right.. more editor mean more problem.. but the main problem
> isn't what you use.. but what you build..
>
> thx 4 stuart about the response..
> I Smile because have this kind of response.. and if this have GRP
> system.. i will give you +1
>
>
> Stuart wrote:
>> 2009/7/6 gunawan
>>
>>> i'm not suggested using Arach for php editor.. since i think another
>>> editor
>>> are better.
>>> fyi.. i'm using Arach to html editor
>>>
>>>
>>> but in med level.. using not only one editor is something u must face
>>>
>>> for me.. i'm using a bunch of editor..
>>> that's include image editor and text editor.. this is my full list
>>> * Crimson editor => php editor
>>> * MS Word => template builder??
>>> * Irfanview
>>> * Flash.. image building
>>> * Photoshop => for polish my image.. but irfanview seem better..
>>> since My
>>> work not soo need powerfull
>>> * Filezilla => upload my work
>>>
>>> well.. I just want to share.. to inform.. if you want to enter Med
>>> to expert
>>> programer.. u must have a lot tools/editor
>>> and next step is something you must find to enter EXPERT
>>> *that's not scary right?
>>>
>>
>> Word? You're freaking kidding right?
>>
>> In general I would argue that the tools you use have absolutely no
>> bearing on what level developer you are, but to be using Word for
>> anything other than word processing takes a special kind of ignorance
>> and/or stupidity. It has no place as a development tool unless you're
>> developing Word macros.
>>
>> -Stuart
>>
>>
>
>
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hahahaha..
scary isn't.. using word as one of tools
yes.. u right.. more editor mean more problem.. but the main problem
isn't what you use.. but what you build..
thx 4 stuart about the response..
I Smile because have this kind of response.. and if this have GRP
system.. i will give you +1
Stuart wrote:
> 2009/7/6 gunawan
>
>> i'm not suggested using Arach for php editor.. since i think another editor
>> are better.
>> fyi.. i'm using Arach to html editor
>>
>>
>> but in med level.. using not only one editor is something u must face
>>
>> for me.. i'm using a bunch of editor..
>> that's include image editor and text editor.. this is my full list
>> * Crimson editor => php editor
>> * MS Word => template builder??
>> * Irfanview
>> * Flash.. image building
>> * Photoshop => for polish my image.. but irfanview seem better.. since My
>> work not soo need powerfull
>> * Filezilla => upload my work
>>
>> well.. I just want to share.. to inform.. if you want to enter Med to expert
>> programer.. u must have a lot tools/editor
>> and next step is something you must find to enter EXPERT
>> *that's not scary right?
>>
>
> Word? You're freaking kidding right?
>
> In general I would argue that the tools you use have absolutely no
> bearing on what level developer you are, but to be using Word for
> anything other than word processing takes a special kind of ignorance
> and/or stupidity. It has no place as a development tool unless you're
> developing Word macros.
>
> -Stuart
>
>
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