Need quick got written up yesterday!! OUCH

Ok I have 45 minutes left to make this script default to show +ACI-a+ACI- l=
istings on the browse.php page and then show no listings on other pages by =
default for some reason the +AF8-Server function stopped working what have =
I done wrong...


+ADw-?php //alphabeti=
cal
pagination links
// Function to create paging. function createPaging(+ACQ-selectedLetter +AD=
0-
null) +AHs- +ACQ-letters +AD0- range('A','Z')+ADs- array+AF8-push(+ACQ-=
letters, 'nums')+ADs-
+ACQ-menu +AD0- ''+ADs- //if the page is browse default to A's if on other=
pages just
show pagination links and not default listings if (+ACI-browse.php+ACI- +AD=
0APQ-
+ACQAXw-SERVER+AFs-'SCRIPT+AF8-FILENAME'+AF0-) +AHs- +ACQ-letter +AD0- +=
ACI-A+ACIAOw- +AH0-else +AHs- +ACQ-letter +AD0-
NULL+ADs- +AH0- foreach(+ACQ-letter=
s as
+ACQ-letter) +AHs- if(+ACQ-letter +AD0APQ- +ACQ-selectedLetter +ACYA=
Jg- +ACQ-selectedLetter +ACEAPQ-
'nums') +AHs- +ACQ-menu .+AD0- sprintf('+ACU-s+ACY-nbsp', +ACQ=
-letter)+ADs- +AH0-
else if(+ACQ-letter +AD0APQ- +ACQ-selectedLetter +ACYAJg- +ACQ-selectedLett=
er +AD0APQ- 'nums') +AHs-
+ACQ-menu .+AD0- sprintf('+ACU-s+ACY-nbsp', '+ACM-', '+ADw-hr+AD4-')+ADs- =
+AH0- else +AHs-
if(+ACQ-letter +AD0APQ- 'nums') +AHs- +ACQ-menu .+AD0- s=
printf('+ADw-a
href+AD0AIg-browse.php?letter+AD0AJQ-s+ACIAPgAl-s+ADw-/a+AD4 AJg-nbsp+ADs-',=
'nums', '+ACM-')+ADs- +AH0-
else +AHs- +ACQ-menu .+AD0- sprintf('+ADw-a
href+AD0AIg-browse.php?letter+AD0AJQ-s+ACIAPgAl-s+ADw-/a+AD4 AJg-nbsp+ADs- '=
, +ACQ-letter, +ACQ-letter)+ADs- +AH0-
+AH0- +AH0- return +ACQ-menu+ADs- echo ('+ADw-HR+AD4-')+ADs- +AH0- //=
Function to show just
paging. function index() +AHs- // Echo only paging. echo
createPaging()+ADs- +AH0- // Function to show results if page was given. fu=
nction
browse(+ACQ-selectedLetter) +AHs- // Echo paging. echo
createPaging(+ACQ-selectedLetter)+ADs- echo '+ADw-br+AD4-'+ADs- //Show =
all restaurants
that start with +ACQ-letter not between +ACI-A+ACI- and +ACI-Z+ACI- if (=
+ACQ-selectedLetter +AD0APQ-
+ACI-nums+ACI-) +AHs- for(+ACQ-i +AD0- 0+ADs- +ACQ-i +ADwAPQ- 9+ADs-=
+ACQ-i+++8-) +AHs- +ACQ-sql +AD0-
+ACI-SELECT DISTINCT ID, name, address FROM restaurants WHERE name LIKE '+A=
CQ-i+ACU-'+ACIAOw-
+ACQ-result +AD0- mysql+AF8-query(+ACQ-sql) or die(mysql+AF8-error(=
))+ADs-
while(+ACQ-row +AD0- mysql+AF8-fetch+AF8-assoc(+ACQ-result)) =
+AHs-
echo '+ADw-br+AD4-'+ADs- +ACQ-name +AD0- +ACQ-row+AFs-'name'+AF0=
AOw- printf('+ADw-br+AD4APA-a
href+AD0AIg-view.php?ID+AD0AJQ-s+ACIAPgA8-b+AD4AJQ-s+ADw-/b+ AD4APA-br /+AD4=
AJQ-s+ADw-br /+AD4APA-br /+AD4APA-/a+AD4-', +ACQ-row+AFs-'ID'+AF0-,
+ACQ-row+AFs-'name'+AF0-, +ACQ-row+AFs-'address'+AF0-)+ADs- =
+AH0-
+AH0- +AH0- else +AHs- +ACQ-sql +AD0- +ACI-SE=
LECT DISTINCT ID,
name, address FROM restaurants WHERE name LIKE '+ACQ-selectedLetter+ACU-'+A=
CIAOw-
+ACQ-result +AD0- mysql+AF8-query(+ACQ-sql) or die(mysql+AF8-error())+=
ADs-
while(+ACQ-row +AD0- mysql+AF8-fetch+AF8-assoc(+ACQ-result)) +AHs=
- +ACQ-name +AD0-
+ACQ-row+AFs-'name'+AF0AOw- printf('+ADw-a href+AD0AIg-view.php?ID+=
AD0AJQ-s+ACIAPgA8-b+AD4AJQ-s+ADw-/b+AD4APA-br /+AD4AJQ-s+ADw-br
/+AD4APA-br /+AD4APA-/a+AD4-', +ACQ-row+AFs-'ID'+AF0-, +ACQ-row+AFs-'name'+=
AF0-, +ACQ-row+AFs-'address'+AF0-)+ADs-
+AH0- +AH0- +AH0- // Main controller=
which
page to show. if (isset(+ACQAXw-GET+AFs-'letter'+AF0-)) +AHs-
browse(+ACQAXw-GET+AFs-'letter'+AF0-)+ADs- +AH0- else +AHs- index()+ADs- =
+AH0-
?+AD4-

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Re: Need quick got written up yesterday!! OUCH

On Tue, 2009-08-04 at 07:16 -0700, Miller, Terion wrote:
> for($i =3D 0; $i <=3D 9; $iï¯=AF)

I'm noticing an odd character just here (heaven knows what line number!)
I'd presume this was meant to be something like a ++ or +=3Dn, but seems
to be interpreted as a multibyte character here. I'll let you know if I
find anything else.

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Re: Need quick got written up yesterday!! OUCH

On Tue, 2009-08-04 at 15:30 +0100, Ashley Sheridan wrote:
> On Tue, 2009-08-04 at 07:16 -0700, Miller, Terion wrote:
> > for($i =3D 0; $i <=3D 9; $iï¯=AF)
>=20
> I'm noticing an odd character just here (heaven knows what line number!)
> I'd presume this was meant to be something like a ++ or +=3Dn, but seems
> to be interpreted as a multibyte character here. I'll let you know if I
> find anything else.
>=20
> Thanks,
> Ash
> http://www.ashleysheridan.co.uk
>=20
>=20
Also, just to help, what happens if you run a phpinfo() script or do a
print_r($_SERVER)? Does it show the array as being empty?

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Re: Need quick got written up yesterday!! OUCH (RESOLVED)

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Re: Need quick got written up yesterday!! OUCH (RESOLVED)

On Tue, 2009-08-04 at 07:40 -0700, Miller, Terion wrote:
> THANKFULLY THE BOSS DECIDED TO YELL AT ME AND TOLD ME WHAT THE PROBLEM WA=
S....I HAVE NEVER BEEN SO STRESSED IN MY LIFE....
> SHOULD WORK BE THIS AWFUL? ITâ€=99S HARD ENOUGH WORKING IN A MALE DOM=
INATED FIELD, BUT WHEN THEY START USING THEIR LARGE FRAMES AND BOOMING VOIC=
ES OMG GOD...I JUST MAY HAVE TO CRY LIKE THE GIRL I AM. SHIT.
> SORRY FOR THE CAPS HAVING A MELTDOWN...AND FOR THE LIST THE PROBLEM WAS H=
ERE:
>=20
> / Main controller which page to show. if (isset($_GET['letter'])) { bro=
wse($_GET['letter']); } else { browse('A'); }
>=20
> On 8/4/09 9:30 AM, "Ashley Sheridan" wrote:
>=20
> On Tue, 2009-08-04 at 07:16 -0700, Miller, Terion wrote:
> > for($i =3D 0; $i <=3D 9; $iï¯=AF)
>=20
> I'm noticing an odd character just here (heaven knows what line number!)
> I'd presume this was meant to be something like a ++ or +=3Dn, but seems
> to be interpreted as a multibyte character here. I'll let you know if I
> find anything else.
>=20
> Thanks,
> Ash
> http://www.ashleysheridan.co.uk
>=20
>=20
>=20
Ah, doesn't sound good there. Have you thought about saying something to
him, to just try and explain how you feel? You shouldn't have to feel
bullied at work, no matter what sex you are.

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Re: Need quick got written up yesterday!! OUCH

On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 10:30 AM, Ashley
Sheridan wrote:
> On Tue, 2009-08-04 at 07:16 -0700, Miller, Terion wrote:
>> for($i =3D 0; $i <=3D 9; $iï¯=AF)
>
> I'm noticing an odd character just here (heaven knows what line number!)
> I'd presume this was meant to be something like a ++ or +=3Dn, but seems
> to be interpreted as a multibyte character here. I'll let you know if I
> find anything else.
>
> Thanks,
> Ash
> http://www.ashleysheridan.co.uk
>

Yeah, well... It's hard to tell what is what in that message. In Gmail
I didn't even get the multi-byte strings. The whole section of code is
one jumbled mess with the usual improper line breaks with the addition
of characters such as '<', '$', and ',' that have been replaced by
sequences like '+ADw-', '+ACq-', and '+ADo-'.

It'd probably take me more than 45 minutes just to get the code
readable enough to figure out what it should be!

Andrew

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Re: Need quick got written up yesterday!! OUCH (RESOLVED)

Miller, Terion wrote:
> THANKFULLY THE BOSS DECIDED TO YELL AT ME AND TOLD ME WHAT THE PROBLEM WAS....I HAVE NEVER BEEN SO STRESSED IN MY LIFE....
> SHOULD WORK BE THIS AWFUL? IT’S HARD ENOUGH WORKING IN A MALE DOMINATED FIELD, BUT WHEN THEY START USING THEIR LARGE FRAMES AND BOOMING VOICES OMG GOD...I JUST MAY HAVE TO CRY LIKE THE GIRL I AM. SHIT.
> SORRY FOR THE CAPS HAVING A MELTDOWN...AND FOR THE LIST THE PROBLEM WAS HERE:
>

Maybe he thought he was hiring a PHP developer or a detail oriented
quick learner.


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Re: Need quick got written up yesterday!! OUCH

On Tue, 2009-08-04 at 10:47 -0400, Andrew Ballard wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 10:30 AM, Ashley
> Sheridan wrote:
> > On Tue, 2009-08-04 at 07:16 -0700, Miller, Terion wrote:
> >> for($i =3D 0; $i <=3D 9; $iï¯=AF)
> >
> > I'm noticing an odd character just here (heaven knows what line number!=
)
> > I'd presume this was meant to be something like a ++ or +=3Dn, but seem=
s
> > to be interpreted as a multibyte character here. I'll let you know if I
> > find anything else.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Ash
> > http://www.ashleysheridan.co.uk
> >
>=20
> Yeah, well... It's hard to tell what is what in that message. In Gmail
> I didn't even get the multi-byte strings. The whole section of code is
> one jumbled mess with the usual improper line breaks with the addition
> of characters such as '<', '$', and ',' that have been replaced by
> sequences like '+ADw-', '+ACq-', and '+ADo-'.
>=20
> It'd probably take me more than 45 minutes just to get the code
> readable enough to figure out what it should be!
>=20
> Andrew
>=20
About 8 here ;) I timed it as I was trying to figure out what was going
on!


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Re: Need quick got written up yesterday!! OUCH (RESOLVED)

Shawn you know repeatedly have been nothing but an asshole to me on this li=
st, I have said before I'm not a php programmer, I was a front end designer=
, need graphics , need a css layout...see me....need backend programming..I=
'm trying...
Stop being such a egomaniacal dickhead, a social life may do you good.


On 8/4/09 9:53 AM, "Shawn McKenzie" wrote:

Miller, Terion wrote:
> THANKFULLY THE BOSS DECIDED TO YELL AT ME AND TOLD ME WHAT THE PROBLEM WA=
S....I HAVE NEVER BEEN SO STRESSED IN MY LIFE....
> SHOULD WORK BE THIS AWFUL? IT'S HARD ENOUGH WORKING IN A MALE DOMINATED F=
IELD, BUT WHEN THEY START USING THEIR LARGE FRAMES AND BOOMING VOICES OMG G=
OD...I JUST MAY HAVE TO CRY LIKE THE GIRL I AM. SHIT.
> SORRY FOR THE CAPS HAVING A MELTDOWN...AND FOR THE LIST THE PROBLEM WAS H=
ERE:
>

Maybe he thought he was hiring a PHP developer or a detail oriented
quick learner.


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Re: Need quick got written up yesterday!! OUCH (RESOLVED)

Miller, Terion wrote:
> Shawn you know repeatedly have been nothing but an asshole to me on
> this list, I have said before I'm not a php programmer, I was a front
> end designer, need graphics , need a css layout...see me....need
> backend programming..I'm trying... Stop being such a egomaniacal
> dickhead, a social life may do you good.

Dearest Terion,

If by "repeatedly", you mean twice, then yes I'll agree. I've also
helped and/or solved your issues more than twice (once being today if
you've read it and followed it). Most often my intent was to get you to
try and learn and troubleshoot your own issues instead of posting the
same code problems and syntax errors over and over. You come to this
list "repeatedly" with errors that are caused by a total lack of
understanding, and in my opinion, a total lack of due diligence on your
part. It's not today or the past week or the past several weeks, it's
been for quite some time with little or no improvement.

If by being an "asshole", you mean the time that I suggested that you
get an editor with syntax checking/highlighting because you posted a
whole page of wrapped code that had a syntax error (missing semicolon),
then yes I have been, though a helpful asshole with good intentions. At
some point it gets obnoxious. When is that point? It differs depending
upon the person. Many on this list have just stopped replying to your
posts altogether. I like them need to see an attempt to help ones self
occasionally before I continue with help.

I wasn't defending your boss yelling at you, that's rarely appropriate.
However, after the many posts from you on this list, to see "Need quick
got written up yesterday!! OUCH", I felt like yelling at you, "Need
payment doing your work!! CONSTANTLY" :-)

As a CSS/HTML/graphics designer, did you take this job with the
understanding that you'd have to learn PHP or did they just thrust it
upon you? If the former, then you need to buckle down and learn it in a
constructive manner. If your social life needs to suffer for a short
time, then that's what it takes. If the latter, then maybe talk to them
about some company paid training and mentoring from someone helpful that
knows backend programming and PHP.

I may be a "dickhead", but not "egomaniacal". There are many better PHP
gurus on this list than I, and I know it. Unfortunately, many of them
are ignoring your posts entirely. At present my social life is actually
overwhelming my ability to devote time to PHP coding, however if you'd
like to send pictures I'll give them a look see.

I can understand your frustration and can tell that you're very
stressed, so I will attempt to not be an "asshole" nor a "dickhead", but
please show a little more devotion to learning and helping yourself.

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RE: Need quick got written up yesterday!! OUCH

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andrew Ballard [mailto:aballard@gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 10:47 AM
> To: ash@ashleysheridan.co.uk
> Cc: Miller, Terion; PHP-General List
> Subject: Re: [PHP] Need quick got written up yesterday!! OUCH
>=20
> On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 10:30 AM, Ashley
> Sheridan wrote:
> > On Tue, 2009-08-04 at 07:16 -0700, Miller, Terion wrote:
> >> for($i =3D 0; $i <=3D 9; $iï¯=AF)
> >
> > I'm noticing an odd character just here (heaven knows what line
> number!)
> > I'd presume this was meant to be something like a ++ or +=3Dn, but
> seems
> > to be interpreted as a multibyte character here. I'll let you know =
if
> I
> > find anything else.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Ash
> > http://www.ashleysheridan.co.uk
> >
>=20
> Yeah, well... It's hard to tell what is what in that message. In Gmail
> I didn't even get the multi-byte strings. The whole section of code is
> one jumbled mess with the usual improper line breaks with the addition
> of characters such as '<', '$', and ',' that have been replaced by
> sequences like '+ADw-', '+ACq-', and '+ADo-'.
>=20
> It'd probably take me more than 45 minutes just to get the code
> readable enough to figure out what it should be!
>=20
> Andrew
>=20

I have noticed a few issues with Gmail and this isn't the first time =
that mail service has muffed up an email and/or the attachments. It =
consistently has compromised jpg's, pdf's and the like. I sent an email =
to a prospective client using my gmail service and the links were messed =
up when they got it. Made me look bad. Just be aware that what you send =
may not be what they get when using Gmail.

Thank you,
Marc Hall
HallMarc Websites
610.446.3346

=20

__________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus =
signature database 4305 (20090804) __________

The message was checked by ESET Smart Security.

http://www.eset.com
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Re: Need quick got written up yesterday!! OUCH

On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 2:05 PM, HallMarc
Websites wrote:
> I have noticed a few issues with Gmail and this isn't the first time that=
mail service has muffed up an email and/or the attachments. It consistentl=
y has compromised jpg's, pdf's and the like. I sent an email to a prospecti=
ve client using my gmail service and the links were messed up when they got=
it. Made me look bad. Just be aware that what you send may not be what the=
y get when using Gmail.
>
> Thank you,
> Marc Hall
> HallMarc Websites
> 610.446.3346

I know Gmail has its issues, but I don't think this is one of them.
The message looks the same when I look at it here:

http://marc.info/?l=3Dphp-general&m=3D124939545127492&w=3D2

Andrew

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Re: Need quick got written up yesterday!! OUCH

On Tue, 2009-08-04 at 14:16 -0400, Andrew Ballard wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 2:05 PM, HallMarc
> Websites wrote:
> > I have noticed a few issues with Gmail and this isn't the first time that mail service has muffed up an email and/or the attachments. It consistently has compromised jpg's, pdf's and the like. I sent an email to a prospective client using my gmail service and the links were messed up when they got it. Made me look bad. Just be aware that what you send may not be what they get when using Gmail.
> >
> > Thank you,
> > Marc Hall
> > HallMarc Websites
> > 610.446.3346
>
> I know Gmail has its issues, but I don't think this is one of them.
> The message looks the same when I look at it here:
>
> http://marc.info/?l=php-general&m=124939545127492&w=2
>
> Andrew
>
Isn't it more likely then to be Entourage?!

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RE: Need quick got written up yesterday!! OUCH

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ashley Sheridan [mailto:ash@ashleysheridan.co.uk]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 2:20 PM
> To: Andrew Ballard
> Cc: HallMarc Websites; Miller, Terion; PHP-General List
> Subject: Re: [PHP] Need quick got written up yesterday!! OUCH
>
> On Tue, 2009-08-04 at 14:16 -0400, Andrew Ballard wrote:
> > On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 2:05 PM, HallMarc
> > Websites wrote:
> > > I have noticed a few issues with Gmail and this isn't the first
> time that mail service has muffed up an email and/or the attachments.
> It consistently has compromised jpg's, pdf's and the like. I sent an
> email to a prospective client using my gmail service and the links were
> messed up when they got it. Made me look bad. Just be aware that what
> you send may not be what they get when using Gmail.
> > >
> > > Thank you,
> > > Marc Hall
> > > HallMarc Websites
> > > 610.446.3346
> >
> > I know Gmail has its issues, but I don't think this is one of them.
> > The message looks the same when I look at it here:
> >
> > http://marc.info/?l=php-general&m=124939545127492&w=2
> >
> > Andrew
> >
> Isn't it more likely then to be Entourage?!
>
> Thanks,
> Ash
> http://www.ashleysheridan.co.uk
>
>

This must be "Have you heard of..." day. I have heard of Entourage by name
yet I have never looked into it. Googling it now and why does the code
displayed at the marc.info link you gave me regarding this coding fiasco
look so messed up?

In the email I see:
[snip]
pagination links
// Function to create paging. function createPaging($selectedLetter =
null) { $letters = range('A','Z'); array_push($letters, 'nums');
$menu = ''; //if the page is browse default to A's if on other pages just
show pagination links and not default listings if ("browse.php" ==
$_SERVER['SCRIPT_FILENAME']) { $letter = "A"; }else { $letter =
NULL; } foreach($letters as
[/snip]

and on that page I see
[snip]
+ADw-?php
//alphabetical
pagination links
// Function to create paging. function createPaging(+ACQ-selectedLetter
+AD0-
null) +AHs- +ACQ-letters +AD0- range('A','Z')+ADs-
array+AF8-push(+ACQ-letters, \
'nums')+ADs- +ACQ-menu +AD0- ''+ADs- //if the page is browse default to A's
if on \
other pages just show pagination links and not default listings if \
(+ACI-browse.php+ACI- +AD0APQ-
+ACQAXw-SERVER+AFs-'SCRIPT+AF8-FILENAME'+AF0-) +AHs- \
+ACQ-letter +AD0- +ACI-A+ACIAOw- +AH0-else +AHs- +ACQ-letter +AD0-
NULL+ADs- \
+AH0- foreach(+ACQ-letters as
+ACQ-letter) \
[/snip]



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RE: Need quick got written up yesterday!! OUCH

On Tue, 2009-08-04 at 14:28 -0400, HallMarc Websites wrote:
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ashley Sheridan [mailto:ash@ashleysheridan.co.uk]
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 2:20 PM
> > To: Andrew Ballard
> > Cc: HallMarc Websites; Miller, Terion; PHP-General List
> > Subject: Re: [PHP] Need quick got written up yesterday!! OUCH
> >
> > On Tue, 2009-08-04 at 14:16 -0400, Andrew Ballard wrote:
> > > On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 2:05 PM, HallMarc
> > > Websites wrote:
> > > > I have noticed a few issues with Gmail and this isn't the first
> > time that mail service has muffed up an email and/or the attachments.
> > It consistently has compromised jpg's, pdf's and the like. I sent an
> > email to a prospective client using my gmail service and the links were
> > messed up when they got it. Made me look bad. Just be aware that what
> > you send may not be what they get when using Gmail.
> > > >
> > > > Thank you,
> > > > Marc Hall
> > > > HallMarc Websites
> > > > 610.446.3346
> > >
> > > I know Gmail has its issues, but I don't think this is one of them.
> > > The message looks the same when I look at it here:
> > >
> > > http://marc.info/?l=php-general&m=124939545127492&w=2
> > >
> > > Andrew
> > >
> > Isn't it more likely then to be Entourage?!
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Ash
> > http://www.ashleysheridan.co.uk
> >
> >
>
> This must be "Have you heard of..." day. I have heard of Entourage by name
> yet I have never looked into it. Googling it now and why does the code
> displayed at the marc.info link you gave me regarding this coding fiasco
> look so messed up?
>
> In the email I see:
> [snip]
> > pagination links
> // Function to create paging. function createPaging($selectedLetter =
> null) { $letters = range('A','Z'); array_push($letters, 'nums');
> $menu = ''; //if the page is browse default to A's if on other pages just
> show pagination links and not default listings if ("browse.php" ==
> $_SERVER['SCRIPT_FILENAME']) { $letter = "A"; }else { $letter =
> NULL; } foreach($letters as
> [/snip]
>
> and on that page I see
> [snip]
> +ADw-?php
> //alphabetical
> pagination links
> // Function to create paging. function createPaging(+ACQ-selectedLetter
> +AD0-
> null) +AHs- +ACQ-letters +AD0- range('A','Z')+ADs-
> array+AF8-push(+ACQ-letters, \
> 'nums')+ADs- +ACQ-menu +AD0- ''+ADs- //if the page is browse default to A's
> if on \
> other pages just show pagination links and not default listings if \
> (+ACI-browse.php+ACI- +AD0APQ-
> +ACQAXw-SERVER+AFs-'SCRIPT+AF8-FILENAME'+AF0-) +AHs- \
> +ACQ-letter +AD0- +ACI-A+ACIAOw- +AH0-else +AHs- +ACQ-letter +AD0-
> NULL+ADs- \
> +AH0- foreach(+ACQ-letters as
> +ACQ-letter) \
> [/snip]
>
>
>
> [HallMarc Websites]
>
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>
I never sent you that link. The website doesn't mangle other emails up,
but it is messing up Terrions, and other peoples emails are showing hers
as mangled, so it would seem that Entourage is the likely culprit.

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Re: Need quick got written up yesterday!! OUCH (RESOLVED)

On Tue, Aug 04, 2009 at 12:42:11PM -0500, Shawn McKenzie wrote:

> Miller, Terion wrote:
> > Shawn you know repeatedly have been nothing but an asshole to me on
> > this list, I have said before I'm not a php programmer, I was a front
> > end designer, need graphics , need a css layout...see me....need
> > backend programming..I'm trying... Stop being such a egomaniacal
> > dickhead, a social life may do you good.
>
> Dearest Terion,
>
> If by "repeatedly", you mean twice, then yes I'll agree. I've also
> helped and/or solved your issues more than twice (once being today if
> you've read it and followed it). Most often my intent was to get you to
> try and learn and troubleshoot your own issues instead of posting the
> same code problems and syntax errors over and over. You come to this
> list "repeatedly" with errors that are caused by a total lack of
> understanding, and in my opinion, a total lack of due diligence on your
> part. It's not today or the past week or the past several weeks, it's
> been for quite some time with little or no improvement.
>
> If by being an "asshole", you mean the time that I suggested that you
> get an editor with syntax checking/highlighting because you posted a
> whole page of wrapped code that had a syntax error (missing semicolon),
> then yes I have been, though a helpful asshole with good intentions. At
> some point it gets obnoxious. When is that point? It differs depending
> upon the person. Many on this list have just stopped replying to your
> posts altogether. I like them need to see an attempt to help ones self
> occasionally before I continue with help.
>
> I wasn't defending your boss yelling at you, that's rarely appropriate.
> However, after the many posts from you on this list, to see "Need quick
> got written up yesterday!! OUCH", I felt like yelling at you, "Need
> payment doing your work!! CONSTANTLY" :-)
>
> As a CSS/HTML/graphics designer, did you take this job with the
> understanding that you'd have to learn PHP or did they just thrust it
> upon you? If the former, then you need to buckle down and learn it in a
> constructive manner. If your social life needs to suffer for a short
> time, then that's what it takes. If the latter, then maybe talk to them
> about some company paid training and mentoring from someone helpful that
> knows backend programming and PHP.
>
> I may be a "dickhead", but not "egomaniacal". There are many better PHP
> gurus on this list than I, and I know it. Unfortunately, many of them
> are ignoring your posts entirely. At present my social life is actually
> overwhelming my ability to devote time to PHP coding, however if you'd
> like to send pictures I'll give them a look see.
>
> I can understand your frustration and can tell that you're very
> stressed, so I will attempt to not be an "asshole" nor a "dickhead", but
> please show a little more devotion to learning and helping yourself.

I have to agree with Shawn on most everything. I'm one of those people
who've chosen not to pay attention to your posts. The masses of code you
post are nearly indecipherable, and you seem to be constantly tripped up
by syntax errors, etc.

PJ blew it with me in the same way. PJ, too, is not a professional
coder. And like you, he seems to be unwilling to buckle down and study
the language, preferring instead to come to experts here to get free
tutoring. But at some point, the patience of people on this list runs
out, and rather than excoriating you, they simply stop helping you.

My point here is not to insult you or denigrate your abilities. You may
be a very nice person, and quite talented at doing the things you're
trained to do. But programming in PHP is apparently not one of them. And
if you're going to be doing this for a living, then you're going to have
to either stop doing this for a living, or actually study the subject.
Because sooner or later, no one here will listen, no matter how nice you
are, and no matter how well you do the other parts of your job.

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RE: Need quick got written up yesterday!! OUCH (RESOLVED)

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul M Foster [mailto:paulf@quillandmouse.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 5:44 PM
> To: php-general@lists.php.net
> Subject: Re: [PHP] Need quick got written up yesterday!! OUCH
> (RESOLVED)
>
> On Tue, Aug 04, 2009 at 12:42:11PM -0500, Shawn McKenzie wrote:
>
> > Miller, Terion wrote:
> > > Shawn you know repeatedly have been nothing but an asshole to me on
> > > this list, I have said before I'm not a php programmer, I was a
> front
> > > end designer, need graphics , need a css layout...see me....need
> > > backend programming..I'm trying... Stop being such a egomaniacal
> > > dickhead, a social life may do you good.
> >
> > Dearest Terion,
> >
> > If by "repeatedly", you mean twice, then yes I'll agree. I've also
> > helped and/or solved your issues more than twice (once being today if
> > you've read it and followed it). Most often my intent was to get you
> to
> > try and learn and troubleshoot your own issues instead of posting the
> > same code problems and syntax errors over and over. You come to this
> > list "repeatedly" with errors that are caused by a total lack of
> > understanding, and in my opinion, a total lack of due diligence on
> your
> > part. It's not today or the past week or the past several weeks,
> it's
> > been for quite some time with little or no improvement.
> >
> > If by being an "asshole", you mean the time that I suggested that you
> > get an editor with syntax checking/highlighting because you posted a
> > whole page of wrapped code that had a syntax error (missing
> semicolon),
> > then yes I have been, though a helpful asshole with good intentions.
> At
> > some point it gets obnoxious. When is that point? It differs
> depending
> > upon the person. Many on this list have just stopped replying to
> your
> > posts altogether. I like them need to see an attempt to help ones
> self
> > occasionally before I continue with help.
> >
> > I wasn't defending your boss yelling at you, that's rarely
> appropriate.
> > However, after the many posts from you on this list, to see "Need
> quick
> > got written up yesterday!! OUCH", I felt like yelling at you, "Need
> > payment doing your work!! CONSTANTLY" :-)
> >
> > As a CSS/HTML/graphics designer, did you take this job with the
> > understanding that you'd have to learn PHP or did they just thrust it
> > upon you? If the former, then you need to buckle down and learn it
> in a
> > constructive manner. If your social life needs to suffer for a short
> > time, then that's what it takes. If the latter, then maybe talk to
> them
> > about some company paid training and mentoring from someone helpful
> that
> > knows backend programming and PHP.
> >
> > I may be a "dickhead", but not "egomaniacal". There are many better
> PHP
> > gurus on this list than I, and I know it. Unfortunately, many of them
> > are ignoring your posts entirely. At present my social life is
> actually
> > overwhelming my ability to devote time to PHP coding, however if
> you'd
> > like to send pictures I'll give them a look see.
> >
> > I can understand your frustration and can tell that you're very
> > stressed, so I will attempt to not be an "asshole" nor a "dickhead",
> but
> > please show a little more devotion to learning and helping yourself.
>
> I have to agree with Shawn on most everything. I'm one of those people
> who've chosen not to pay attention to your posts. The masses of code
> you
> post are nearly indecipherable, and you seem to be constantly tripped
> up
> by syntax errors, etc.
>
> PJ blew it with me in the same way. PJ, too, is not a professional
> coder. And like you, he seems to be unwilling to buckle down and study
> the language, preferring instead to come to experts here to get free
> tutoring. But at some point, the patience of people on this list runs
> out, and rather than excoriating you, they simply stop helping you.
>
> My point here is not to insult you or denigrate your abilities. You may
> be a very nice person, and quite talented at doing the things you're
> trained to do. But programming in PHP is apparently not one of them.
> And
> if you're going to be doing this for a living, then you're going to
> have
> to either stop doing this for a living, or actually study the subject.
> Because sooner or later, no one here will listen, no matter how nice
> you
> are, and no matter how well you do the other parts of your job.
>
> Paul
>
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Re: Need quick got written up yesterday!! OUCH (RESOLVED)

On Tue, Aug 04, 2009 at 06:10:30PM -0400, HallMarc Websites wrote:

> [HallMarc Websites]
>
> God I love this planet. I agree with Paul.
>

Yeah, great planet, this. A little touristy, but still a good travel
value.

;-}

Paul

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Re: Need quick got written up yesterday!! OUCH (RESOLVED)

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Terion,

I've done a lot of backend programming, but I'm even more newbie than
you in PHP... so take this from an equal, & FWIW:
I think we in this work can all get dry/impersonal and grouchy at
times, but to rephrase the others, in perhaps more encouraging terms:
I think the guys just want the natural satisfaction of seeing you grow
in understanding. it is really fulfilling to help people; we all love
helping someone in need! But we all also want to see our investment
stick and make a difference in the long run. Putting out fires is ok
once in a while, but much more satisfying is contributing to someone
getting good at this stuff, even if at a humble pace.

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Re: Need quick got written up yesterday!! OUCH (RESOLVED)

On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 7:19 PM, Govinda wrote=
:
> Terion,
>
> I've done a lot of backend programming, but I'm even more newbie than you=
in
> PHP...  so take this from an equal, & FWIW:
> I think we in this work can all get dry/impersonal and grouchy at times, =
but
> to rephrase the others, in perhaps more encouraging terms:
> I think the guys just want the natural satisfaction of seeing you grow in
> understanding.  it is really fulfilling to help people; we all love =
helping
> someone in need!  But we all also want to see our investment stick a=
nd make
> a difference in the long run.  Putting out fires is ok once in a whi=
le, but
> much more satisfying is contributing to someone getting good at this stuf=
f,
> even if at a humble pace.
>
> ------------
> John Butler (Govinda)
> govinda.webdnatalk@gmail.com
>
>
>
>

Yea that whole teach a person to fish... yadda yadda. :)

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Re: Need quick got written up yesterday!! OUCH (RESOLVED)

Eric Butera wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 7:19 PM, Govinda wrote:
>> Terion,
>>
>> I've done a lot of backend programming, but I'm even more newbie than you in
>> PHP... so take this from an equal, & FWIW:
>> I think we in this work can all get dry/impersonal and grouchy at times, but
>> to rephrase the others, in perhaps more encouraging terms:
>> I think the guys just want the natural satisfaction of seeing you grow in
>> understanding. it is really fulfilling to help people; we all love helping
>> someone in need! But we all also want to see our investment stick and make
>> a difference in the long run. Putting out fires is ok once in a while, but
>> much more satisfying is contributing to someone getting good at this stuff,
>> even if at a humble pace.
>>
>> ------------
>> John Butler (Govinda)
>> govinda.webdnatalk@gmail.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> Yea that whole teach a person to fish... yadda yadda. :)
>

Ya, the on fire thing or whatever is the weird part.

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OUCH (RESOLVED)

Thank you all for being so brutally honest, I am doing my best, and yes I d=
o get hung up on syntax errors, I mean who doesn't stare at code looking fo=
r a misplaced or missing ; or . For what seems like hours with a boss askin=
g repeatedly "is it done, is it done" before freaking out and asking for mo=
re eyes to help look, so yes I am totally guilty of that, unfortunately I d=
on't work on a team, so I have no one live in person to ask, and my company=
training consisted of 2 books but no training time as in small projects, j=
ust 2 books and big projects. For the record I have asked to be transferred=
back to graphics/front end production as soon as a full time position open=
s back up there, I don't seem to have a knack or logic for back end program=
ming wish I did, but like I said in a previous email to Shawn it's very lef=
t brained and I'm very right brained. I will do my best to not use the lis=
t, and if I do I thank you thank you thank you for the kind heartedness of =
Ash, Bastian, Jim and even Shawn (who rails me out first) who continue to h=
elp me, and to the few others that still find it good karma whose names I m=
ay have left off. Good things happen to those who do Good things.
Peace and Happy Wednesday
Terion

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Re: OUCH (RESOLVED)

> ...
> Peace and Happy Wednesday
> Terion

:-)

nice!

In the end, I imagine that if it was all taken away suddenly and for
good, that we'd all miss the real people here more than any of the
rules, logics, and practicalities of getting paid work done..

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Re: OUCH (RESOLVED)

Terion,
I've been sitting in the background watching all this unfold and
thought I would chime in. I passed along your "all caps" email to a
co-worker of mine (she programs in FoxPro) and she said she could
definitely relate to what you were going through! As for people being
honest (especially Shawn), of all the bosses I've had, the one that I
respect most was the one that was the hardest on me and, at times,
seemingly unfair. But because of her being hard on me I grew. So,
hang in there. The more you figure out these problems the better
you'll get.

Take care,
Floyd

On Aug 5, 2009, at 11:19 AM, Miller, Terion wrote:

>
> Thank you all for being so brutally honest, I am doing my best, and
> yes I do get hung up on syntax errors, I mean who doesn't stare at
> code looking for a misplaced or missing ; or . For what seems like
> hours with a boss asking repeatedly "is it done, is it done" before
> freaking out and asking for more eyes to help look, so yes I am
> totally guilty of that, unfortunately I don't work on a team, so I
> have no one live in person to ask, and my company training consisted
> of 2 books but no training time as in small projects, just 2 books
> and big projects. For the record I have asked to be transferred back
> to graphics/front end production as soon as a full time position
> opens back up there, I don't seem to have a knack or logic for back
> end programming wish I did, but like I said in a previous email to
> Shawn it's very left brained and I'm very right brained. I will do
> my best to not use the list, and if I do I thank you thank you thank
> you for the kind heartedness of Ash, Bastian, Jim and even Shawn
> (who rails me out first) who continue to help me, and to the few
> others that still find it good karma whose names I may have left
> off. Good things happen to those who do Good things.
> Peace and Happy Wednesday
> Terion
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Re: Need quick got written up yesterday!! OUCH (RESOLVED)

Miller, Terion wrote:
> Shawn you know repeatedly have been nothing but an asshole to me on this list, I have said before I'm not a php programmer, I was a front end designer, need graphics , need a css layout...see me....need backend programming..I'm trying...
> Stop being such a egomaniacal dickhead, a social life may do you good.

If your job description does not include php development, and they are
asking you to do it, then ask them to pay for the necessary books for
you to learn PHP or do not accept the assignment, pointing out that you
are not a PHP developer.

If you job description includes php development, then you need to know
what you are doing.

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Re: Need quick got written up yesterday!! OUCH (RESOLVED)

At 7:44 PM -0700 8/5/09, Michael A. Peters wrote:
>Miller, Terion wrote:
>>Shawn you know repeatedly have been nothing but an asshole to me on
>>this list, I have said before I'm not a php programmer, I was a
>>front end designer, need graphics , need a css layout...see
>>me....need backend programming..I'm trying...
>>Stop being such a egomaniacal dickhead, a social life may do you good.
>
>If your job description does not include php development, and they
>are asking you to do it, then ask them to pay for the necessary
>books for you to learn PHP or do not accept the assignment, pointing
>out that you are not a PHP developer.
>
>If you job description includes php development, then you need to
>know what you are doing.


Yeah, that's a bit like your employer saying "Here's a gun, shoot the
bad guys."

First, you don't know how to shoot a gun and second you don't know
who the bad guys are. That's a recipe for disaster.

Cheers,

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